Hello, i installed HARD SPL to my HTC Touch Pro
when the installation was 100% completed
and my mobile automaticly Shut down
but i cant start my HTC Touch pro anymore
when i try to start the RUU again, it cant detect my HTC
because my pc cant find the HTC anymore
when i try to charge battery, thats doesnt work
can sameone please help me ?
Have you tried soft and/or hard resetting? This is a bit bothering, though. You're not using a sprint or verizon (cdma) touch pro with the 1.90 Olinex hard spl, are you? If so, you may be s.o.l. My only advice in that case would be to try to flash the cdma hard spl.
Hello,
i have a HTC Touch Pro,
i used Olinex HARD SPL
but how can i hard reset ?
i cant start my phone
HTC Touch pro from where, though? What carrier, or did you buy it directly from HTC? This is important. And which hard spl? There are dozens of them. Exactly what was the #, and where did you get it?
To hard reset, press and hold down the volume down button and the OK (d-pad) button. Keep holding them down and then quickly soft reset with the stylus. Let the first two buttons go when the tri-color screen appears.
Just a tip: if you don't know how to hard reset yet, you shouldn't be modifying the firmware of your ppc.
i used ''Raphael_VZW_HSPL_035''
i purchased my mobile from ''Hi Mobile'' http://www.hi.nl (Dutch Provider)
edit: hard reset is not working
Well, that hard spl is for cdma phones; and the VZW makes me think that it is specifically for Verizon phones, which is not good for you. My Dutch isn't very good, but I suspect that your phone is GSM because: 1. Most non-US phones are GSM 2. The only thing I understand on that web-page is "Hi Sim-only." Sim cards are used in GSM phones. Does your phone have a sim card? If so, then you flashed the wrong hard spl and there's a very good chance the phone is toast. My only recommendation is to download the proper hard spl (1.90.Olinex). See if you can get your phone into bootloader. Do so by pressing and holding Volume Down and then soft resetting (don't hold the soft reset down; just push it in quickly like normal). Continue to hold volume down until the tri-color screen appears, IF it appears. If it does, then connect your phone to your pc with a usb cable, say a prayer, and flash the new hard spl.
If you can't get into bootloader, then your phone is dead for good. You can try to return it, or if you want, you can donate it to one of the techs on the forum who experiments with JTAG cables. JTAG'ing will be the only way to fix the phone if you can't get it into bootloader, but it's an extreme long-shot.
Edit: This is from cmonex at ppcgeeks, where I guess you got the hard spl package:
Important:
first, if you have GSM Touch Pro/Raphael (NOT CDMA, NOT SPRINT/VERIZON/ALLTEL/TELUS/BELL), this will brick your device.
to download a compatible hardspl package for gsm touch pro you can go to forum.xda-developers.com.
but if you have CDMA Touch Pro/Raphael, then you have to use this hardspl, not the one at xda-developers!!!
preparations before flash:
3) now decide which Hard-SPL you want to flash. if you have Verizon, flash VZW package (from verizon attachment). if you have Sprint, Telus or Alltel or Bell, flash default package (Raphael_CDMA_HSPL_037.zip).
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If cmonex says it's a brick, then it's a brick. Don't knock yourself out trying to fix it if your phone is not cdma.
i think my phone is dead =(
im gonna buy a HTC Touch Pro 2 then
is there a another option , like flashing your bricked phone with a memmory card
something like like PSP wit Pro Duo card
You need to be able to access bootloader to flash off your memory card (vol. down + soft reset). That's the real killer with flashing the wrong hard spl-now you have a bad bootloader that can't be over-written. Your only hope would be to flash the 1.90.0linex hard spl, which can only be done over active sync (you could do this if you first went into bootloader). But again, since you can't get into bootloader, you're screwed. I mean, yeah, you might as well fool around, trying to get the proper hard spl on there (or even try flashing a full, stock rom). You're not going to make anything worse at this point. But I seriously doubt you're going to recover your device.
Seriously, there's a guy in the Diamond forum who's working on jtag'ing diamonds. It's complicated as hell, but maybe you could sell him your phone for 20 bucks. Just do a search on 'jtag' in that forum and you'll find him. Unless you can get a warrantee replacement somehow, your phone's only going to be good for experimenting or maybe spare parts.
Edit: here's the thread on jtag'ing a Diamond. You may want to pm the thread-starter and ask for advice, if he has any.
Here's another thread on fixing HTC phones. You might be able to sell your phone to the thread-starter to use for spare parts.
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Well i dont have a device so i cant provide much info, but wanted to start a thread of problems and possible solutions...
So i will kick it off.. A friend of mine just messaged me said he acquired a post-production kaiser and wanted to install the ATT rom on it... however when he does it just says could not flash handheld or whatever or its not compatible...it goes to bootloader, gets to around 1% and then stops and phone restarts...
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Well i dont have a device so i cant provide much info, but wanted to start a thread of problems and possible solutions...
So i will kick it off.. A friend of mine just messaged me said he acquired a post-production kaiser and wanted to install the ATT rom on it... however when he does it just says could not flash handheld or whatever or its not compatible...it goes to bootloader, gets to around 1% and then stops and phone restarts...
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Well I'm probably going to catch a beating for this but has anybody has the BALLS to hard spl the kaiser with the hermes version. I realize saying this is obvious is an understatement but I would venture to say that most people would be to scared to try. I have a solid connection at a cingy cough...cough I mean at&t store that has switched out 8525's for me without question so I may try if I can get my hands on one. The way I see it I have to start contributing at some point LOL
I would guess it is due to a CID lock...
But then again, what do I know
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I would guess it is due to a CID lock...
But then again, what do I know
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if it was cid lock you generally get the "invalid vendor" code.. He specifically stated it wasnt that error... but that was my first thought also... not to mention it should be unlocked at least for the first flash since its HTC branded..
although we did discover that a hard reset is done the same way as the hermes, 2 soft keys + reset ... couldnt find how to put it in bootloader though
It is due to CID lock.
To put in bootloader hold camera + power and reset with stylus.
I got my kaiser today, I'll start to work on a CID unlocker soon
pof said:
It is due to CID lock.
To put in bootloader hold camera + power and reset with stylus.
I got my kaiser today, I'll start to work on a CID unlocker soon
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thanks for the insight pof, i couldnt tell for sure since i dont actually this device yet.. hopefully i can get my hands on one soon..
I know, I know, there are loads of threads like this but I must be lacking something in the brains department as I've spent the last 6 days (since I got my orange tytn) reading this forum trying to understand how to unlock the thing without turning it into a brick and then to flash a rom and radio.
Everything I read on here has people contradicting other people and I end up not having a clue what to do in the end.
HEELLLLP!!!
To confuse matters even more I thought I'd got it sussed and then read about roms having/not having a CUBE!!!! WTF???? I then gave up and started typing this thread...
Here's what I think......and PLEASE correct me or agree with me....
Firstly I seem to be stumbling at the first hurdle since I have an orange tytn and that it seems is the worse to have for some reason???
I thought I'd start off simply by using the kaiser simunlocker to unlock the phone (by jocky) but then came across something called hardspl with all its variances, so OK lets go with the flow and dismiss the hardspl step for now assuming I can do it and read on...
Assuming I could ever find a program that makes a backup of the rom I've got I'd carry on with the unlocker until I get to the step (step 10) that says download the original radio..............this of course doesn't exist (1.27.14.32) so I look for a proggy that downloads the radio to use at this point. Here's where I come unstuck again.........no proggy!!
At this point I must assume that this may not be possible on the model I've got if I want to be sure I can make it original again.
Could someone please confirm this so I can accept the fact that I have to use what came with the phone and save myself a few hours a night getting nowhere...
Sorry for my rant but I'm frustrated that my old brain can't figure this out and giving up seems to be the only option. I completely understand that I'll get flamed for this since I'm a noobie and asking again what numerous otheres have asked but I accept that...
I have great respect for all you guys that can actually understand this on first reading and especially the people who produce this stuff....
Thanks again folks
familyguy said:
I know, I know, there are loads of threads like this but I must be lacking something in the brains department as I've spent the last 6 days (since I got my orange tytn) reading this forum trying to understand how to unlock the thing without turning it into a brick and then to flash a rom and radio.
Everything I read on here has people contradicting other people and I end up not having a clue what to do in the end.
HEELLLLP!!!
To confuse matters even more I thought I'd got it sussed and then read about roms having/not having a CUBE!!!! WTF???? I then gave up and started typing this thread...
Here's what I think......and PLEASE correct me or agree with me....
Firstly I seem to be stumbling at the first hurdle since I have an orange tytn and that it seems is the worse to have for some reason???
I thought I'd start off simply by using the kaiser simunlocker to unlock the phone (by jocky) but then came across something called hardspl with all its variances, so OK lets go with the flow and dismiss the hardspl step for now assuming I can do it and read on...
Assuming I could ever find a program that makes a backup of the rom I've got I'd carry on with the unlocker until I get to the step (step 10) that says download the original radio..............this of course doesn't exist (1.27.14.32) so I look for a proggy that downloads the radio to use at this point. Here's where I come unstuck again.........no proggy!!
At this point I must assume that this may not be possible on the model I've got if I want to be sure I can make it original again.
Could someone please confirm this so I can accept the fact that I have to use what came with the phone and save myself a few hours a night getting nowhere...
Sorry for my rant but I'm frustrated that my old brain can't figure this out and giving up seems to be the only option. I completely understand that I'll get flamed for this since I'm a noobie and asking again what numerous otheres have asked but I accept that...
I have great respect for all you guys that can actually understand this on first reading and especially the people who produce this stuff....
Thanks again folks
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Screw what everyone tells you and start with the link above this thread. Actually the second thread on this page. I think I am one of the oldest around here so its not your "old" brain. _Alex_ has gone to great length to get all of the information you need in one place. Start with his sticky. Good luck.
hello, lots of stuff to learn, first thing, which sounds like you did is read, next hard SPL
see the 2nd sticky in the forum,
go down to kaiser wiki, then rom tools wiki, the 3rd choice, hard SPL cid unlock, read carefully and install, once completed, now your phone is ready to flash roms, (for Kaiser) most come with radio or recommend radios to use and not use. if you have problems with hard spl then use the wiki again to troubleshoot and the first 2 stickys
im out
just sell your kaiser and stick to a razor......lol.....j/k....just listen to p1tater...hes right!!
Hey family guy,
A few months back I got an Orange TYTN II just like you. I read for about a week on here untill I felt confident enough in the steps needed to flash a new ROM. First off I Hard SPL and then went for Dutty V3 ROM which was perfect untill I then felt clever enough to flash a new ROM a few weeks later. Due to not sim unlocking correctly the first time around, upon a new radio being flashed to the phone It locked my SIM.. untill I found out the true way to SIM unlock the phone.
Once you have Hard Spl and SIM unlocked you are well away. I know at this point you are probably feeling pretty confused with all this but believe me it is well worth it in the end.
Oh and FYI.... I can confirm that there is an Orange original Rom on here and a few compatible radios should you ever need to revert back to them for some reason as I had to do this myself at one point when trying to work out where I was having issues with something.
All the best
Chris
P.s are we going to start the "who is the oldest contest yet?"
c.b said:
P.s are we going to start the "who is the oldest contest yet?"
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There's been one around for a while:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325426
but then they do say that memory's the first thing to go, so I'll forgive you!
Confused Stu said:
There's been one around for a while:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325426
but then they do say that memory's the first thing to go, so I'll forgive you!
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PMSL....That's where it went, I knew I had left it somewhere. Now where are my damn glasses I can't read a thing.
Unlock your Orange Kaiser
Here's my experience ..
1. Basically HardSPL your Tytn II to facilitate a cooked ROM that can be 'sim unlocked'
2. Install the Cooked Rom
3. Run the Sim unlock generator code
4. Phone is *UNLOCKED !*
5. Install a ROM of your choice
6. Install a Radio of your choice
Here's the stuff I used:
READ ALL THE POSTS - READ ALL THE POSTS !!
** USE WINDOWS XP OS with Activesync!! **
1. HTC Kaiser Hard-SPL v1 - CID Unlock & Flash any ROM to your device
You will know you got it right when it says either 1.0.HardSPL or 1.0.OliPof.
NOTE: I had problems here and had to force it with JumpSPL1.93 because HardSPL would not install.
2+3. I used Jockyw2001 Kaiser Sim Unlocker v0.1
NOTE:
> The file has three steps ... 1, 2 & 3 so you can't go wrong:
> Step 1. Installs the 'patched' Radio
> Step 2. Generates the key code for unlocking (on your PC) which you enter into the Tytn.
> Step 3. Installs a replacement radio
4. My code was a series of numbers that I had to type into the screen.
5+6. Read my signature for what I'm using today (it changes)
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All instructions are on screen with prompts.
I sweated for days before I chanced it and it took me about 15 minutes from start to finish but you end up with a pucka HTC looking Tytn II and not the Orange variant.
A few important pointers from the bit I learned:
1. You cannot do this on a WM6.1 Tytn II, you have to go down to WM6.0 - As mine was WM6.0 it didn't matter.
2. Vista is a ***** for doing this and you have enough things to think about without the PC's OS .. USE XP !!
3. HardSPL once done, the Tytn II is clear for all future ROM + Radio upgrades.
4. Bootloader = Power button + Camera button + Reset with stylus
5. Hard reset is Left softkey + Right softkey + Reset with stylus
6. Always Hard reset after blowing any new ROM before using.
7. Backup all your contacts etc. to your SD card with PIM Backup 2.8 before you do anything.
8. Remove the SD card before you begin.
9. The 'Cube' isn't always included in the ROM's - I use this CUBE
10. Most Roms come with their own 'loader' called 'Kaiser_RUU' so you don't have too much to think about.
11. Stick your Radio and ROM information in your signature, you never know when you may want to go back and forget what you had installed ;-)
12. Installing a new radio on a phone that isn't SIM Unlocked will result in a LOCKED TO ALL NETWORKS phone - So SIM Unlock it !!
Enjoy
PS. Let me know if you can't find the files you need.
SIM Unlocker Software HERE
PPS. Before you unlock your Orange can you pop over to this thread and answer Rabdo's question - Thanks.
ajs007 said:
Here's my experience ..
12. Installing a new radio on a phone that isn't SIM Unlocked will result in a LOCKED TO ALL NETWORKS phone - So SIM Unlock it !!
this thread and answer Rabdo's question - Thanks.
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Hey I have a question about this point - I've never SIM unlocked my phone and have flashed about 6 ROMS, and various radios and never had a problem. All I did was run hardSpl, then started flashing.
So what I'm asking is are you sure of this point?
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This is a useless thread. Mods please close this thread.
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Screw what everyone tells you and start with the link above this thread. Actually the second thread on this page. I think I am one of the oldest around here so its not your "old" brain. _Alex_ has gone to great length to get all of the information you need in one place. Start with his sticky. Good luck.
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Oldest around here your a Matt Serra fan I swore you were like 25.
-McMex
mattarse said:
Hey I have a question about this point - I've never SIM unlocked my phone and have flashed about 6 ROMS, and various radios and never had a problem. All I did was run hardSpl, then started flashing.
So what I'm asking is are you sure of this point?
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I have heard before that Orange Kaiser's are a little different to other networks and need to be SIM-unlocked before they can use a different network.
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I have heard before that Orange Kaiser's are a little different to other networks and need to be SIM-unlocked before they can use a different network.
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Ok thanks, that would make sense then.
Cheers!
Hi all and thanks for your comments advice and encouragement..........just quickly looking at the old age thread I am one of the oldest at 47!!
The thing about this thread is that it's happened again and there are only 13 posts!!
There's been contradiction about the orange tytn above. Some peeps say it needs to be unlocked (and that they've done it but don't mention what radio they're using), and some peeps say it doesn't need to be unlocked!?!?!?
There is my confusion and my hesitation to do anything in case I lock the sim out completely. That I can't have as I need the phone at all times to get in toch with my kids (humans or small goats depending on what your state of mind is!).
Here is what I think I should do...
1.) Use hardspl to unlock something (not sure what at the mo) so that I am able to flash
2.) Unlock the SIM lock using kaiser sim unlocker (or not! jury is out, but not sure which radio to use so scared of brickifying it)
3.) Flash my choice of rom (but not sure if I have to then flash a radio or if the radio is included in the rom)
That's about all my poor tired OLD.......VERY OLD brains can figure out and there are enough 'I don't knows' there to stop me in my tracks...
I'll keep reading though but in the meantime I could do with gleaning info from someone who is in the UK on orange and maybe has a recent model...
TTFN
familyguy said:
I'll keep reading though but in the meantime I could do with gleaning info from someone who is in the UK on orange and maybe has a recent model...
TTFN
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I'll be 48 in August, so it's not just the Youngsters who play with the 'phones.
(Does that make me the oldest ?)
I bought the TytnII from the Orange Shop in Leicester just before Christmas but didn't have the bottle to unlock it for months ... Main reason was the unlocking 4 months ago was £20 !! and i didn't want to brick it either.
I spotted someone selling the unlocking service on ebay about a month ago, so I knew someone had cracked it here (and some cheapskate was selling the service.)
Feel free to private message me, if you need to we can talk it through over the phone.
Alan.
familyguy said:
There's been contradiction about the orange tytn above. Some peeps say it needs to be unlocked (and that they've done it but don't mention what radio they're using), and some peeps say it doesn't need to be unlocked!?!?!?
TTFN
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I may have added to the confusion - I do not have an Orange phone, adn was questioning whether you need to SIM unlock the phone b/c I hadn't. Later it was pointed out that Orange phones may be different and need to be.
mattarse
Greetings to all...........and a damn good weekend to everyone!!
mattarse you simply added to the confusion in my mind............for other it was probably very clear
ajs007, I will PM you and perhaps a quick chat to get me up and running would be great!
One thing I do know though..........when (yes, I've gone from if to when) I get more knowledable about this I'll be one of the first peeps there to help anyone out if I can!
After a long chat with ajs007 (for which I am very grateful) I felt I had the confidence to go ahead and install hardspl using the jumpspl route.
My tale of woe follows as it was unsuccessful every time...
I followed jockys instructions,
1a. download the 5 attached files
1b. connect your PC to phone with a USB cable
2. REMOVE SIM and SD CARDS !!
3. copy JumpSPL1.56-KAIS.exe to your device and run it (make sure the USB cable is still connected). If you still get a white screen then reset your device and now try JumpSPL1.93-KAIS.exe
4. after a few seconds "USB" appears on the phone display
5. unplug and replug the usb cable
6. deselect "Allow USB connections" in Activesync connection settings
7. now flash hardSPL (run KaiserCustomRUU.exe from flash-hardSPL.zip on your PC)
After step 3 (for both 1.56 & 1.93) I get the tri-colour screen (not mentioned above) shortly followed by 'USB' on the white at the bottom (step 4).
(I guess this makes it a quad colour screen instead of
I then did step 5 and step 6 as above and moved on to step 7 to run kaisercustomruu.exe.
I then get a screen which says verifying phone settings and a further screen which has 'current info about your pda phone:' and lists nothing!!
Another line that says 'image version:' and has nothing listed and yet another line that says 'select from below:' and has nothing next to it!?!?!?!?
There is a button that says update the current ROM version but I dare not press it if it is going to update with nothing!!!??
On top of all that I read contradiction again where the instructions above state that you must deselect 'allow usb connections' yet when you run kaisercustomruu.exe it states that you must have an activesync connection....
I'm now really confused and convinced it just isn't to be. Sorry Alan it did sound so easy when you explained it but there must be something different about my phone.........I'm going to throw myself or the phone or both of us off a tall building.............now Im totally depressed
Exit stage left feeling very sorry for oneself...
Looks like everything was A.O.K. for flashing..
IMPORTANT ** You didn't say if you had SPL xxx PoF on the Tri Screen ?
I didn't have any reference to a ROM on the install screen but it worked, probably because the ROM was in the same directory and it didn't need to look anywhere ....
I think (but I'm not 100%) the activesync USB connection is an XP v. Vista thing, and you do need USB connection in XP.
In summary, if you did have SPL xxx PoF on the Tri Screen you should be good to go.
From totally & utterly confused to successfully running Dutty's 6.1!!
Lots of bonus points and many thanks to AJS007 for allowing me to bother him with all my questions and lack of confidence.
Here's my tale...
Firstly I tried to install hardspl running from my PC and a USB cable but I got the infamous white screen!
I then followed the instructions for using jumpspl version 1.53 (for some reason the instructions I read didn't say remove and re-inset battery therefore I didn't do that bit!).
I got to the bit where 'USB' appears on the screen and pulled out the cable then re-inserted it. I have no idea why you do this but I did it. When I pulled the cable out the screen had 'Serial' on it and when I re-inserted it, it went back to 'USB'
I carried on to the next step and unchecked the 'Allow USB Connections' in Activesync (again I have no idea why you do this) and went on to run 'kaisercustomruu.exe'
Here's where I hesitated and got stuck. The program started on the PC and got to a point where it interrogated the phone, shortly after that I was presented with another screen that waited for my input ready to 'Update' but I hesitated since there was no information listed under 'Image Version:' and 'Select from below:'.
I wasn't sure what to do here and cancelled the whole thing in case I bricked it
After further investigation, more reading and speaking once again to my mentor AJS007, I decided to go ahead and throw what caution I had left to the wind, so I pressed the 'Update' button.
After a few more screens I got to the point of no return and gritted my teeth.........nothing happened........I disconnected and re-connected and tried again..........nothing again............after a third time though (and I don't know why) it burst into life and I got the 'percentage screen'.
At this point I did think I had trashed it but plodded on regardless in the hope that I hadn't and everything would be OK. Thankfully it was and on entering the bootloader screen I saw 'olipof'..............all was well
This gave me the extra bit of confidence I needed to go through the unlock procedure and then on to flash Dutty's latest. I did get to the point where I had to enter the unlock code and it took 2 attempts to accept it for some reason........I can't explain that either!!
It was all in all a stressful time and involved a lot of pacing up and down when the ROM was flashing, taking what seemed to be hours to complete and slowing down to an almost stop at certain points, but in the end it did all work and I am now left with a transformed T2, but with the following little problems,
1.) My bluetooth headset has to be paired every time I want to use it!
2.) When I go to re-calibrate the screen (with the cross hair) it freezes up and I have to do a soft reset.
3.) My screen 'tap' noises have disappeared (except when I press the 'start' button)
I haven't tried to reflash the radio to see if that will take care of the bluetooth issue yet but I intend to do so in the next few days.
For anyone that's interested I'm using the radio ROM that was included in Dutty's latest build (WM6.1_5.2.19209) which is 1.58.16.27.
Finally, once again my thanks to AJS007 who went to the trouble of helping me in my few hours of need.
If anyone new here would like to ask me any questions about my noobie experience please don't hold back!!
I posted this in another thread as it was similar (though for tmobile), but I believe I haven't gotten any answers there I was hoping to try here:
I was installing winmo msn messenger. It installed fine and reset my tp2 fine. It goes thru the tp2 splash screen, the verizon splash screen and the winmo splash screen. Then it shows owner information and this is where it gets screwed up. Owner info will stay up forever if I dont touch the screen. After touching the screen the only thing left will be the top bar and the rest of the screen stays black. The only things on the top bar are the signal icon (which always has an x), the wifi icon (which seems to be connected fine lol) and either owner info will still be in the upper left or the start menu will be there. Hitting the screen only causes my tp2 to beep.
Nothing I know how to do (which is basically just hard and soft resetting it) works. Verizon can't fix it (didnt think they would be able to) and I can find no drivers (possibly cause I'm still a noob with winmo) to resolve my issue. I'm not even sure how I'd get them on as it wont even sync up to my computer and my computer cannot find its hd. If I could get a rom for the verizon one I think I can figure it out from there with no issues...but htc website sends me to verizon website for support and vice versa. The htc wiki is the closest I've gotten to an answer...but no rom to download. The only OEM roms I can find anywhere aren't for this phone, unless one of those will work? You guys are the experts.
Does anyone know what I can try? Verizon wants me to return it but cannot tell me when I'll get my new one as they are out of stock...again. Please help lol! Thanks for any and all help because I NEED a phone and can't wait around for them to decide to include them in the next shipment, nor would I appreciate being given some other type of phone in the mean time simply because I paid for the tp2, if I had wanted another phone I would have bought it instead.
if you do just a litle searching over at ppcgeeks, there's info about shipped roms and where to get them. (not sure if its kosher to post a direct link to it or not, given that these are shipped roms). hopefully that will help, otherwise, dunno what to tell ya.
First off, I can tell you that installing MSN Messenger would NOT brick your TP2. There are other problems with the phone, most likely a bad mfr rom. If you performed a hard reset (You did didnt you?) it would reload the factory rom.. so if your phone is still bricked, your factory rom is hosed, or your phones hardware is hosed. Installing MSN Messenger would not do this by itself.
Learning from trial and error is a tough road. Return the phone for a new one while you still have the option. You got a get out of jail free card, now is the time to use it.
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if you do just a litle searching over at ppcgeeks, there's info about shipped roms and where to get them. (not sure if its kosher to post a direct link to it or not, given that these are shipped roms). hopefully that will help, otherwise, dunno what to tell ya.
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I checked over there, but if you're saying it's there then it's obvious I need to check again. Also seeing as you've suggested this I'm guessing:
bipolarmadman said:
I'm not even sure how I'd get them on as it wont even sync up to my computer and my computer cannot find its hd.
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Isn't as big of an issue as I thought it was? And if it isn't...how do I get around this?
DragonNote said:
First off, I can tell you that installing MSN Messenger would NOT brick your TP2. There are other problems with the phone, most likely a bad mfr rom.
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I'm not entirely sure what you mean by mfr (I'll hit up google after this) but I can tell you only what I know. My phone worked fine for 3 days. Once I got it set up like I wanted and was ready to start installing other crap I did so, I started with MSN.
DragonNote said:
If you performed a hard reset (You did didnt you?) it would reload the factory rom.. so if your phone is still bricked, your factory rom is hosed, or your phones hardware is hosed. Installing MSN Messenger would not do this by itself.
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Nothing I know how to do (which is basically just hard and soft resetting it)
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Yup got the hard reset in there, it just didnt do anything. However, one thing I did not was that there were numerous postings with different ways to hard reset the device. The only one I could get to do anything at all was pressing volumn down + reset while the phone was off but it stayed at the tri color screen without much else going on...so I coulda just done the wrong one or did it wrong all together. If I did please point me in the right direction.
Like I said before I can't say if it was screwed from the time I first turned it on as this is my first smartphone and first experience with tf3d (I've had many pda's though) but it had been soft reset multiple times prior, along with a couple of hard resets, and had no issue bouncing back from those. Reset after MSN install...hosed. Not that I'm saying your wrong, you guys are the experts here, but from what I've experienced regardless of what caused it msn will certainly not be going on my next smart phone. I'll opt for one of the all in one apps like I was going to before I decided to go with a name I trusted.
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Return the phone for a new one while you still have the option. You got a get out of jail free card, now is the time to use it.
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Got no choice about this. The only issue I have with this is the fact that they can't tell me when I'll get my new phone. Plus I have only 1 of 2 choices:
1. Mail my phone back and get a refurbished one in return....uhm...no
2. Take my phone back to the verizon store I got it at, get my refund, and hope to god that I can get another one the next time they get it in stock.
I'm not trying to ***** and complain...just trying to find a way to fix it without a)paying 300 for a refurbished phone, or b)going an unknown amount of time without my phone.
does your start menu drop down when you hit it? When i go to settings/today/items and uncheck the TouchFLO 3d my screen is just as you describe. Its pure black with the top bar available. Did you check to see if the touchflo 3d is turned on?
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Yup got the hard reset in there, it just didnt do anything. However, one thing I did not was that there were numerous postings with different ways to hard reset the device. The only one I could get to do anything at all was pressing volumn down + reset while the phone was off but it stayed at the tri color screen without much else going on...so I coulda just done the wrong one or did it wrong all together. If I did please point me in the right direction.
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You went into boot loader mode. I did a hard reset on my sprint version but I dont remember how technical support told me. I think it was power off the phone. push and hold 'up' volume key, then hit and hold the reset switch till the phone boots. This will start off looking like a normal soft reset, but it will take much longer, your phone will be erased of all info you put in and it will do an instalation of software and reboot right before touchflo starts . I dont think you will ever get a tri-color screen (i could be wrong), which is what you get when the phone is expecting a rom flash from a computer. the whole process probably takes like five minutes, and theres a spot right after it starts it looks like your phone is doing nothing (Leave it be!). I've been messing with a lot of phones recently, and i dont remember if you got to hold the up key and reset button till you get a hard reset warning or not. (it might tell you all your data will be erased, and whether or not to continue)
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just did a quick google and confirmed it on my sprint touch pro2. push and hold 'send' and 'end' key. Using your teeth, push and hold the 'reset' button with the stylus. finaly, push the power button. (all three need to be pressed down when you hit the power). the tri color screen flashes, then a white screen warns of the reset and says push 'up' volume key to continue, any other key to cancel. Hope this helps.
When you did the hard reset, did you get a warning that all data was going to be erased and where you asked to enter something to confirm? If you didn't, then you have not done a hard reset.
I had to try several times to get mine to hard reset. Even though I hit the proper keys, the phone would just soft reset, not hard reset. I can see how you can easily be fooled thinking you did a hard reset if you don't know what to look for.
I think there are different key presses for Verizon vs Sprint. Make sure you're using the right one.
BTW, "mfr" = manufacturer . . . i.e. HTC
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When you did the hard reset, did you get a warning that all data was going to be erased and where you asked to enter something to confirm? If you didn't, then you have not done a hard reset.
I had to try several times to get mine to hard reset. Even though I hit the proper keys, the phone would just soft reset, not hard reset. I can see how you can easily be fooled thinking you did a hard reset if you don't know what to look for.
I think there are different key presses for Verizon vs Sprint. Make sure you're using the right one.
BTW, "mfr" = manufacturer . . . i.e. HTC
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Confirmed. The Verizon HTC TP2 Hard Reset is the same as T-Mobile but is different from Sprint.
With POWER OFF, hold Volume Down while pressing SEND (green) and END (red). It takes about 4 seconds to take. WARNING: THIS IS A HARD RESET, BACK UP YOUR CONTACT LISTS AND DATA. EVERYTHING BUT YOUR OEM INSTALL WILL BE WIPED.
Go here for more info:
http://www.htc.com/us/faqs.aspx?p_id=287&cat=90&id=106176
I actually ended up calling HTC about 6hrs ago (5 pm est) and they did confirm what i had already started thinking. Verizon tech support has no idea what the hell they are talking about when it comes to this phone.
@spunks74 you're absolutely right, this is just what htc said and is where I finally figured out....verizon needs to get this phone in their techs hands instead of giving them pictures and text.
@DragonNote this is exactly what htc told me after they told me verizon didnt know how to hard reset. thanks for the info, even if i called htc before checking here. thank god im obsessive about backups or I would have been screwed because once this happened....nope no way to do anything at all. Also, for other forum members that may not know, the link you provided (for t-mobile) is completely different than the link for the hard reset for verizon:
http://www.htc.com/us/faqs.aspx?p_id=294&cat=0&id=110490&f=t
which is why i was at such a loss during this issue...I couldn't get that far lol. I read sooo many different ways to hard reset the phone but none worked. obvviously i never checked to seei f the different providers would hard reset different ways. i just assumed they would all reset the same way (i guess this time assuming only made an ass out of me) so i found myself looking at ways to reset the touch pro 2 and ways to reset the rhocium, which is where all the different variations can be found.
@mjcole2003 Without touch flo i recognize the gui right away, and the first time it happened i did think i had just jacked up the flashy gui, but while it was the bare winmo gui there was nothing I could do. any screen touch, any keypress all ended with the same outcome I'd touch/press and the device would only *beep*
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I actually ended up calling HTC about 6hrs ago (5 pm est) and they did confirm what i had already started thinking. Verizon tech support has no idea what the hell they are talking about when it comes to this phone.
@spunks74 you're absolutely right, this is just what htc said and is where I finally figured out....verizon needs to get this phone in their techs hands instead of giving them pictures and text.
@DragonNote this is exactly what htc told me after they told me verizon didnt know how to hard reset. thanks for the info, even if i called htc before checking here. thank god im obsessive about backups or I would have been screwed because once this happened....nope no way to do anything at all. Also, for other forum members that may not know, the link you provided (for t-mobile) is completely different than the link for the hard reset for verizon:
http://www.htc.com/us/faqs.aspx?p_id=294&cat=0&id=110490&f=t
which is why i was at such a loss during this issue...I couldn't get that far lol. I read sooo many different ways to hard reset the phone but none worked. obvviously i never checked to seei f the different providers would hard reset different ways. i just assumed they would all reset the same way (i guess this time assuming only made an ass out of me) so i found myself looking at ways to reset the touch pro 2 and ways to reset the rhocium, which is where all the different variations can be found.
@mjcole2003 Without touch flo i recognize the gui right away, and the first time it happened i did think i had just jacked up the flashy gui, but while it was the bare winmo gui there was nothing I could do. any screen touch, any keypress all ended with the same outcome I'd touch/press and the device would only *beep*
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copy that. my condolences for your loss. I would have them replace it immediately. Too much BS for a new ppc. Only makes you wonder what else is wrong with it.
Why don't you do a hard reset via Clear Storage in settings? This surely seems like something that can be fixed with a hard reset.
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Why don't you do a hard reset via Clear Storage in settings? This surely seems like something that can be fixed with a hard reset.
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Because as the OP said he cant do anything inside the GUI. IE hard reset is only option.
My mistake
Edit: nvrmind, problem solved.
Dear Folks at XDA,
I would like to ask for you help with my HTC Touch Pro 2. I recently tried to update it to the new AthineOS CHome TF3D WM6.5 Manila ROM v 1.0 and unfortunately I failed.
The problem is that my phone now freezes at the black startup screen with the Touch Pro 2 logo and the red codes at the bottom.
I've flashed the ROM several times before and never got this issue.
Due to the fact that the phone doesn't finish the boot-up and I thus I can't get ActiveSync I'm afraid I messed up my phone for ever.
Please someone tell me I got a way out of this, I'd appreciate it very much.
Greetz,
SjonSjon
umm.... I don't think you can change the firmware just yet on the CDMA version of the phone... if you used a HardSPL that's available in the Rhodium forums then you probably used a GSM specific ROM on your CDMA phone... not sure what to tell you other than making sure you read the CDMA forum before trying something so risky. Best solution, unless someone knows how fix your phone in it's current state, is to toss it under your car and run it over and try to cash in on the insurance.
Problem solved!
Hey guys,
I got my HTC Touch Pro 2 functioning again. Thought I'd post the solution for other people who might encounter the same issue. I don't exactly know what the problem was. I'm assuming a non-compatible ROM or something, but after opening 30 tabs in my browser and reading my eyes out I found that if you put your phone into bootloader mode and connect it through usb to your computer you can flash the ROM without using activesync.
So I turned my phone off, pressed the power and Volume Down button simultaneously and then used the Stock ROM upgrade software from HTC to restore my phone
This solution beats the hell outta "run it over and try to cash in on the insurance" if I say so myself!
Greetz,
SjonSjon
I am glad you have recovered the beautiful device; and thanks for sharing a working solution.
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Hey guys,
I got my HTC Touch Pro 2 functioning again. Thought I'd post the solution for other people who might encounter the same issue. I don't exactly know what the problem was. I'm assuming a non-compatible ROM or something, but after opening 30 tabs in my browser and reading my eyes out I found that if you put your phone into bootloader mode and connect it through usb to your computer you can flash the ROM without using activesync.
So I turned my phone off, pressed the power and Volume Down button simultaneously and then used the Stock ROM upgrade software from HTC to restore my phone
This solution beats the hell outta "run it over and try to cash in on the insurance" if I say so myself!
Greetz,
SjonSjon
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Good job!
big thanks for solution.
You just saved my life!!!
Don't get our hopes up! This is the wrong forum. CDMA TP2s can't be flashed at all yet.
This was a life saver post so a quick bump for anyone that needs it.
I unlocked my CDMA phone, installed a few roms -- decided to go back to my stock rom default (which was Telus) -- reinstalled and bam -- bricked.
Well, technically it's not a brick if you can get back into the bootloader to reflash. So no worries everyone. If everyone reads instructions well enough we should hopefully see zero "real" bricks. Or at most, just enough to only build bbq pit rather than a house.
I think my phone is truly bricked
I was unlocking my phone (the HTC Touch Pro 2 <Verizon>) and I was using a Diamond unlocker (I thought it would be fine), but during the process there was a connection error and now my phone seems to be bricked. I can't get it to even turn on, get to a bootloader screen, or anything even remotely close.
The one odd thing that it does though, is when I connect it to my computer, it pops up and my computer recognizes there is a device there. In my Device Manager there is an unknown device called: Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM. I have tried every combination of two buttons, including holding down the reset button with all of them, but nothing gets me anywhere.
If anyone could help, I would really appreciate it. Let me know if you need any more information.
my cdma is rebooting endlessley i reflashed stock rom and evorything. it seriously dosnt want to work. its most sadness... i am cashing in on the insurence. but they are going to send me a refurb..
spend 600$ on a phone got inurnce i hope the used one dosnt fail me.
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I was unlocking my phone (the HTC Touch Pro 2 <Verizon>) and I was using a Diamond unlocker (I thought it would be fine), but during the process there was a connection error and now my phone seems to be bricked. I can't get it to even turn on, get to a bootloader screen, or anything even remotely close.
The one odd thing that it does though, is when I connect it to my computer, it pops up and my computer recognizes there is a device there. In my Device Manager there is an unknown device called: Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM. I have tried every combination of two buttons, including holding down the reset button with all of them, but nothing gets me anywhere.
If anyone could help, I would really appreciate it. Let me know if you need any more information.
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I did the same exact thing to mt TP2. Same outcome.
We have to learn somehow....
That stinks man. If you did, then your phone is truly bricked. You are going to have to get a replacement or switch to another phone because there is nothing you can do to get it going again. I tried everything possible and eventually just ordered a replacement. I have it now and it's working beautifully, but needless to say I am a little scared away from any more unlocking or flashing for a while.
If you read carefully you dont have to be scared of flashing
I was a noob some time ago but before doing anything I took care of reading and understanding before doing nothing.
lesson learned
By now I have flashed more than 60 times on 3 diferent HTC devices and all were a succes
Hope you get your TP2 working again!
I hope I can get there
Someday I hope to be a flashing expert, but until then I will take it slow and read carefully. Thanks for your encouragement. When I actually get money to pay for the unlock for my TP2, I will let you know how flashing goes.
How do you keep the phone in bootloader? Mine goes right to the press volume instuction screen. Other than that I'm stuck on the black name screen,also my usb will not register in device manager. This was my first try at flashing.
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Holy hell, you're not lying. Thanks for coming back to post your solution!
This post saved me at least a few hours of frustration and ever worsening decision making.
So it's totally true???
this situation hasn't solution;
I was unlocking my phone (the HTC Touch Pro 2 <SPRINT>) and I was using a Diamond unlocker (I thought it would be fine), but during the process there was a connection error and now my phone seems to be bricked. I can't get it to even turn on, get to a bootloader screen, or anything even remotely close.
The one odd thing that it does though, is when I connect it to my computer, it pops up and my computer recognizes there is a device there. In my Device Manager there is an unknown device called: Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM. I have tried every combination of two buttons, including holding down the reset button with all of them, but nothing gets me anywhere.
If anyone could help, AND PLEASE somebody tell me , that it can be save it
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please help
i have the same problem. is there a way to save my phone?
I think i bricked theHTC fuze that i bought yesterday I tried to do the Hard SPL but i was getting an error message, error 244 invalid model ID so i used a program to change the .nbh (a radio file) file so it bypassed the error message (by changing DIAM***** to RAPH*****, since my phone is raphael). I even got a message that the process was successfully finished but it turned out not to be true because the screen went black and now i cant turn it on, and i cant even get it into the bootloader mode. If i could at least get it into to tricolor screen i would be able to flash back the original radio and that would solve the problem because ive already done it a few times. Please let me know if there is a chance to get it fixed, even i had to send it to a professional but as long as it could be fixed, im really desperate. Thank you
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You only get that error when your trying to flash the wrong device... Did you use the file "Raphael_CDMA_HSPL_037.zip" to unlock..?? Sound's to me like you used the Diamond Unlocker... Shouldn't be that hard to fix, hold the volume down button, power button, and insert stylus into the hole on the bottom to soft reset to try and open up BL screen... LMK if that works...
Why didn't you just follow the instructions for flashing? You aren't even security unlocked, so why were you trying to flash a diamond radio? That makes no sense at all. Also, if you are security unlocked, you need to get diamond radios from the raphael forum, because they're patched to flash onto raphaels. It sounds like you got yours from the diamond forum, which is the wrong way to go (especially if it's a cdma radio-that would kill your phone for sure). Did hard spl work? If not, why on earth did you forge ahead? YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL YOU FLASH HARD SPL!!!!!
Try pulling the battery for a while, the see if it will start up. It's hard to tell what you did, but since you went down such a wrong path, I wouldn't be surprised if the phone is a giant brick.
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by changing DIAM***** to RAPH*****
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this should've been clue #1. If you have to change it because of the device ID, it's the wrong thing to flash. The Diamond and Raph look alike on the front, but are almost totally incompatible ROM-wise.,
I even got a message that the process was successfully finished but it turned out not to be true because the screen went black and now i cant turn it on
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You are wrong there, it did flash successfully. The tools worked EXACTLY as they were designed. It's not the tools fault
Please let me know if there is a chance to get it fixed, even i had to send it to a professional but as long as it could be fixed, im really desperate. Thank you
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You might contact olipro, I hear he's got the "magic touch" with devices. No guarantees. I've heard that it's almost impossible to unbrick a device like this after an incorrect/bad radio flash.
I really hope it works out for you. Read dude, the stickies are everywhere for your benefit. Best of luck to you.
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I run into things like this DAILY. Been a service rep for over 30 years. If people would ONLY follow the instructions, I'd have less follow up work to do.
Unfortunately they make these phones too easy to hack (good for us) but sometimes noobs make it hard for the rest of us.
lol
This is what happens when you don't follow directions, don't read enough, and are monkeying with things you obviously shouldn't be monkeying with.
When you got the device ID error, you should have stopped right there and thought "gee, maybe I should go over these instructions again and see what I did wrong" instead of trying to force a radio that will never work on your device.
Hope you can get it in to bootloader, otherwise enjoy your shiny new brick.
Well, hope you get it solved and otherwise you learned a lesson in a very expensive way I'm afraid...
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Why didn't you just follow the instructions for flashing? You aren't even security unlocked, so why were you trying to flash a diamond radio? That makes no sense at all. Also, if you are security unlocked, you need to get diamond radios from the raphael forum, because they're patched to flash onto raphaels. It sounds like you got yours from the diamond forum, which is the wrong way to go (especially if it's a cdma radio-that would kill your phone for sure). Did hard spl work? If not, why on earth did you forge ahead? YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL YOU FLASH HARD SPL!!!!!
Try pulling the battery for a while, the see if it will start up. It's hard to tell what you did, but since you went down such a wrong path, I wouldn't be surprised if the phone is a giant brick.
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I did hard SPL first with 1.90OliNex (because the one that was in the unlocking package originally didnt work beacuse of the invalid model ID message) and i thought thats what security unlocked the phone and then i tried to put a costume radio that would allow me to unlock the phone but the radio wouldnt flash. So i went back to the SPL from the unlocking package (HARD SPL 1.34) and i changed the .nbh file from DIAM***** to RAPH***** and then it bricked... The reason i did this is beacuse of the following link :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-427305.html
I just hope something can still be done otherwise this is just a good warning for all others not to do this. Thank you for the replies
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You only get that error when your trying to flash the wrong device... Did you use the file "Raphael_CDMA_HSPL_037.zip" to unlock..?? Sound's to me like you used the Diamond Unlocker... Shouldn't be that hard to fix, hold the volume down button, power button, and insert stylus into the hole on the bottom to soft reset to try and open up BL screen... LMK if that works...
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No I used a gsm unlocker, HARD SPL 1.34... There is a more detailed explanation in the post above
Hard spl 1.34 is either cdma or diamond gsm-I don't know which. I do know that it will brick a gsm touch pro. Flashing the wrong hard spl is the guaranteed way to kill a phone. If you actually flashed it, the phone is dead. Try pulling the battery for a day.
You need to run the gsm raphael unlocker to security unlock your phone. You need to pay for it, too. Hard spl doesn't security unlock your phone-it only CID unlocks it.
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Hard spl 1.34 is either cdma or diamond gsm-I don't know which. I do know that it will brick a gsm touch pro. Flashing the wrong hard spl is the guaranteed way to kill a phone. If you actually flashed it, the phone is dead. Try pulling the battery for a day.
You need to run the gsm raphael unlocker to security unlock your phone. You need to pay for it, too. Hard spl doesn't security unlock your phone-it only CID unlocks it.
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I used the GSM one. Ok i just pulled out the battery and hopefully the phone allows to get it into the bootloader...
Worst case scenario, smash it and pay $100 for ur insured replacement... That is, if you have insurance...
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Worst case scenario, smash it and pay $100 for ur insured replacement... That is, if you have insurance...
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Hahahaha !
Good one !
But dude no offense but u deserve a black shiny 600$ brick because YOU DIDN'T FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS ! THEY ARE THERE TO BE FOLLOWED UNLESS AND UNTIL YOU ARE SO RICH THAT YOU CAN WASTE 600$ OR YOU ARE A SUPER CHEF AT XDA AND ARE SURE OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING !
Anyways Best of luck hope you can unbrick it !
otherwise smash it
Bye.
LoL yeah a $600 paper weight may also come in handy..?? Or like previously stated, take your anger out on it for not doing it right the first time lol...
I now this might be a little too late to answer,but i want to give my two cents to this brick posts. Maybe someone will need it. This is for anyone that might be where I was for over 2 weeks. I though my Fuze/ Raphael / touch pro was history. My phone will get into restart loops when ever he wanted. It was very anoying. After replacing every possible software from Radio, Hard Spl, different rooms and even start up splashes, and almost getting "ORD" in the process. I finally took my phone apart, since there was no warranty. Once open I saw that the reset bottom inside was too close to the rubber reset bottom from outside. Guess what ?? That as all it was..... Good luck to all. : )