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I recently upgraded to WM6 ROM, "Jwrightmcps Crossbow ROM Update 2.02.02 WWE", and all went well.
But then at 40% battery my phone died... and this is very similar to a problem I used to had in WM5.
Can anyone tell me which WM6 ROM doesnt cause the battery problem?
For the record, I don't think either my phone or PDA is damaged. The last time I had this problem, I went back to the service center (several times I might add), and they replaced everything eventually (both PDA and Battery). Since then it has worked fine (for about 6mths+), until I flashed to the WM6 ROM.
**** man, I hope this has not damaged my device. Out of warranty already.
I had a similar problem and also initially didn't beleive it could be the battery, but guess what -- getting a new battery solved almost all problems I had including the phone dying at 40% or above. So it might be worth a try...
IT"S YOUR BATTERY
Just trust me
the battery 'dies' after like 6 to 12 months. It just goes bad in a week.
Mine went out on like 20%, then a week later on 54%
replacing it fixes it.
mine crashes over 20%.... the battery it's new
I had same problem with battery,then I buy new battery from ebay, and then the battery status was OK it goes from 100- 4% with warning and everything. But the problem was that battery last only a couple of hours, even aftzer a few days nothing change I must have charger with me all the time.
Then I search the forum and found someons solution, that works for me too.
Just charge the battery full take the cable out and put it in again a couple of times so the battery is realy full charged, the put the device in bootloader mode by pressing Power + Light + Reset, which brings up an un-backlit screen with "Serial" at the top, and "v0.XX" at the bottom. And then just put your device somewhere and dont touch it until it died that coul be the all day. Anyway next day I put the charger in and again didnt touc for all day. And my problems are gone, the battery since then last fortwo or three days if I dont use it much.
Hope that will help somebody
Dears,
i used to read about this issue in the forum again and again.....so i desided to wrote this post....everyone was claming the battery is the reason....OK do not belive this.....it is the rom.....i used the wm6 for sometime and i was facing the same problem....and when my carrier started the 3G i had to switch back to wm5.....and now my device never turns off before i get notified that my battery level is too low it about 10% of the battery....so if you do not belive me just do this test....switch back to wm5...i am using now Hilme 3.5 v1.3.1
regards
Mine dies at 35% with wm6 and wm5 and my old battery, but never dies with my new battery.
Use Radio 1.15
My battery life increased by 200% just by upgrading to this radio ROM.
same here
i m also sufrer of same problem. now after this forum i m confused
Here is the simple fact of the matter:
Batteries are EXTREMELY complicated pieces of equipment
They often give false readings because the chemical reaction that creates the electricity is easily affected by heat\age\use\etc. Also, the electronics that measure the temperature are based on the false assumption that the battery drains in a predictable way down to the same level.
Your battery draining quicker\slower and dying when it says it has charge may be because of the ROM. However, this is HIGHLY unlikely. What is most likely the cause is external factors (eg heat, number of programs running, etc) or that the battery has "died" or become unreliable.
Recommendation: Try different batteries, and remember that batteries have a chemical reaction, before posting here
I don't know... I started having problems as well just after a ROM upgrade... but it was an official ROM upgrade. I start thinking this has something to do with the upgrade process, like some setting being "wiped out" during the upgrade and the battery going "out of sync" with the device, reporting the wrong battery level...
But, more likely, this is just a psycological effect, you install the new rom and then start playing a lot with the device to find the improvements, and you begin noticing the problem for the first time!
My relatively new I-mate JasJar also started dying when the battery level reached 40% the day i flashed WM6.
i posted here, trying to explain that it was perfectly alright 2 days back, prior to WM6.. pointless to say, everyone still said it was the battery 100%
well.. i got a new battery.. and it did indeed solve the problem.
but guess what.
i flashed WM5 back, and both batteries work fine there.
not sure what the heck is going on here.. but i'm certain there are two fixes:
- flash WM5 back on.
- get a new battery and stay with WM6
astraman said:
Dears,
i used to read about this issue in the forum again and again.....so i desided to wrote this post....everyone was claming the battery is the reason....OK do not belive this.....it is the rom.....i used the wm6 for sometime and i was facing the same problem....and when my carrier started the 3G i had to switch back to wm5.....and now my device never turns off before i get notified that my battery level is too low it about 10% of the battery....so if you do not belive me just do this test....switch back to wm5...i am using now Hilme 3.5 v1.3.1
regards
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I used to think like you, but now I beg to differ, my dead battery never usable under any OS.
It used to be always dead at some % starting from as low as 0 (good ones) and increase until now it is permanent dead at 100%. I have all your intermediate voltages before reaching 100%.
If your's still usable than your battery is not complete dead yet or half dead or maybe soon to be dead.
By the way, I am using helmi_c aku3.5 v1.3 (add on version) as compared to v1.3.1 (vanilla version).
One last thing, please do use big bold characters in forum, sounds like shouting. Thanks!
You cannot judge the battery is old or new by just months.
This older version of Universal battery, it counts by number of time charged I think, inserting in USB for a sync and remove would probably counted as 1 charge.
I now do not sync using those working condition battery, I change to my dead battery for sync purpose.
As I sync only contacts, now Dotfred has a tool and now I hardly use sync anymore.
By the way, there is one guy in this same forum start another thread without reading this (closest info) or all other previous threads.
People like this deserved to be flamed, but I didnt.
IMHO WM6 uses and drains the battery different then WM5
My experience is that everyone that has problems with their device dying just switched to WM6. It has nothing to do with the WM6 itself, it's just that WM6 is more 'sensitive' to a low battery output then WM5. So if you switch back to WM5 it looks like it might 'solve' your problem but in the end the battery will die, it'll just take a little bit longer before WM5 appears to have problems.
You'll postpone the problem for a little while but it's not a fix
Just my 2 cents
CWKJ said:
I used to think like you, but now I beg to differ, my dead battery never usable under any OS.
It used to be always dead at some % starting from as low as 0 (good ones) and increase until now it is permanent dead at 100%. I have all your intermediate voltages before reaching 100%.
If your's still usable than your battery is not complete dead yet or half dead or maybe soon to be dead.
By the way, I am using helmi_c aku3.5 v1.3 (add on version) as compared to v1.3.1 (vanilla version).
One last thing, please do use big bold characters in forum, sounds like shouting. Thanks!
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Mine still working very good at WM5 as i told you.....just let the battery get off and recharge it till full....now mine is working great and keep working until 10% or less
The point is that WM6 treets the battery and power in different way then WM5. First when you upgrade to wm6 and start it first time it assumes that battery is full (the instruction says that you should charge your battery before uploding new ROM). If the battery was not fully charged then you have a problem. WM6 registers the point of current while starting first time and assumes that this level represents the fully charged batteryl. Then it is programmed for consumption of power according to processor cycles, so after such and such time of use of your device it should reach certain level of power. If your battery was not charged full at the start then it will always show false percantage.
The solution is to fully charge the battery (possibly using the way described in some post above) and then reload the ROM once more.
Of cource when you buy a new battery, WM6 registers this (each battery has unic number) and creats new pattern for this battery. That is way it is so importatnt to properly charge the new battery when you load it first time.
Hope this is helpful.
astraman said:
Mine still working very good at WM5 as i told you.....just let the battery get off and recharge it till full....now mine is working great and keep working until 10% or less
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I have 3 original batteries.
In principle, good battery can goes to perfect 0%.
First battery started half dead (that is phone is dead 30%) after upgrade from WM5 AKU1 to WM5 AKU2 happen to be around 6 months after I start using the phone, I thought it was the problem with WM5 AKU2 ROM. My usage pattern of this battery is that I charge anytime I wish with Power charger and also during sync. This battery is still with me now after 1 year I have encounter the problem. The dead % grow (no change of ROM) until now it is around 100%, that is phone is dead just before it goes to 99%.
Second battery was bought the same time my first battery has problem, 1 year passed. Usage pattern are, never use this battery for sync or short connections to PC USB, never charge my battery until it is 0% (always possible) or less than 5%, never upgrade ROM using this battery. Always charge to LED turns GREEN & always sync & upgrade ROM with the dead stuck at 100% battery. 1 year has gone, the second is still able to reach 0% till now with battery last average 1 to 3 days, normally 2 days & sometimes 4 days depends on usage pattern.
Third battery, claim by vendor that some electronics is modified compared to the those bought last year. Charged this battery, use a few time to check if it is an ok battery, need to do this as I have ever bought brand new dead battery last year. After confirmed it is a good battery, I continue using the second battery and third battery always carry along as backup in case I used up the second battery.
Hope my usage pattern can help some of you to have optimal use of the battery and do not let the manufacturer earn extra money due to the problem in the old version of the battery. Anyway, this original battery will be discontinued soon due to end of life of this product. Guess I will have to look forward of getting imitations when my second & third battery is gone or maybe when my phone is gone too.
Tadeusz said:
The point is that WM6 treets the battery and power in different way then WM5. First when you upgrade to wm6 and start it first time it assumes that battery is full (the instruction says that you should charge your battery before uploding new ROM). If the battery was not fully charged then you have a problem. WM6 registers the point of current while starting first time and assumes that this level represents the fully charged batteryl. Then it is programmed for consumption of power according to processor cycles, so after such and such time of use of your device it should reach certain level of power. If your battery was not charged full at the start then it will always show false percantage.
The solution is to fully charge the battery (possibly using the way described in some post above) and then reload the ROM once more.
Of cource when you buy a new battery, WM6 registers this (each battery has unic number) and creats new pattern for this battery. That is way it is so importatnt to properly charge the new battery when you load it first time.
Hope this is helpful.
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uhh...not true...
try to flash you phone at 50% charge...when you boot your battery will still be at 50%
astraman said:
Dears,
i used to read about this issue in the forum again and again.....so i desided to wrote this post....everyone was claming the battery is the reason....OK do not belive this.....it is the rom.....i used the wm6 for sometime and i was facing the same problem....and when my carrier started the 3G i had to switch back to wm5.....and now my device never turns off before i get notified that my battery level is too low it about 10% of the battery....so if you do not belive me just do this test....switch back to wm5...i am using now Hilme 3.5 v1.3.1
regards
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Not so Dears
i have what the american will say as 20/20 and the rst of the world will say as 6\6 corrected vision.
i can read normal 12 pt text pretty well..
and apart from that what you claim is...well NOT TRUE
Hello friends ,
It have been 2 weeks since i got my universal (o2 xda exec) , I have tried most of the WM6 roms here , but most of them dont give good battery life..
Anybody know which is the best ROM with Best battery life? or any tips how to improve the battery life?
I usually read books and rarely hear music and i have 4 apps installed and i find the battery drain fast within 3.5hours. For this reason i turned off the phone and wifi. My uni is a new one , i dont want to have the charger all the time with myself.. I go places , do please help me..
Thanks in advance
battery life is awfull and unpredictable
I have the same problem. I use the same crossbow 2.12.08 version
with update radio ( from 1.15 ) to 1.18
I have a larger battery 3200 mAh, but th ebattery life is never more than one day. Though the battery is brandnew...
Worse is that when charging sometimes it shows 100% but most of the time this drops within a few minutes ( 2-4 ) to 97%
Then after 1-2 hours it is on 60% while usage is minimal. no WLAN, no BT
Also sometimes for some reason the battery is very warm ( during loading ).
When disconnected it turns out the universal is almost empty. Tried to disconnect the battery and leave it outside for 5 minutes then back in. but nithing seems to really improve. Also without memory card the results are more or less the same. Also always I close the applications fully.
Maybe someone can tell me what are the possible reasons...? Is is the software. Does it not see the actual charge correctly? Or is there a "hidden"battery user. Read the article about leds and all that, but this is way out of that league.
Rgds
I think that your battery is no good. My battery is 2 years old, it's the original battery 1650mAh and the battery life is 2.5 hours with WiFi enabled (internet navigation via WiFi)
If you want your battery to last longer, check the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalSmallBattery
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalBatteryIssue
openone said:
I usually read books and rarely hear music and i have 4 apps installed and i find the battery drain fast within 3.5hours.
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Before blaming ROMs check the device with another battery. I had the same problem too, checked several ROMs and even downgraded to WM5 and at the end it appeared that my battery simply dies, while my other battery showed far better lifetime.
You are definitely having a battery issue rather than ROM. I am using 2.1.2.08 also and can get 3 days of normal mixed use from my original 1620mah battery.
Why not try "resetting" the battery, as discussed in previous forums, I for one can testify to it's success.
Hi guys,
I have been struggling for quite a while to investigate why my battery drain is about 150mA best case. I have installed Onyx micro version and disabled almost all unnesessary services and applications, and yet could not live a day even in stand by mode without recharging. Battery capacity is 1100mA, so with 150mA drain, it lasted less than 10 hours per day.
I have checked almost all available ROM's on this site, starting with the original HTC one.
No luck ! So, I've concluded it was no ROM issue. Then, I started to play with IPL and SPL. I had both version 3.14.
To make the long story short, I found the best combination of IPL 3.14 and SPL 3.10
Now I have 91-100mA stand by current drain all the time. Sometimes during the night this value droops to 41mA.
I am preety happy with this and also wonder whether anyone has managed to get a better battery life for his Elf ?
Cheers.
The two things you haven't looked at are the radio and the SIM. I'd try with a different sim for 24 hours and search for the best radio rom. My Elfin battery life is terrible but I think it's down to using M2D.
there is a lot of factor that could affect the battery life, from software, to hardware, the most common problem, is battery age, as old your battery are, the less it will hold the charge. on my elfin I have onyx 5.1.1, IPL 3.10 and HSPL 3.10, radio 3.39.90(I'm having better signal with almost no difference in battery drain) I use the backlight on the second darker step, not the default second brighter one. I usually take no more than 10 calls at day, each one of about 1 to 2 minutes, usually don't use(and is always off) the wifi, the bluetooth I use it occasionally while driving about 3 miles from work to home, and to listen to music at work, 1 or 2 hours per day. data connection(EDGE) is always on, but not used very often just to check email once in a while and update weather once of two time a day.
my battery holds for 2 days, most 2 days and a half.
I think your battery may be the problem, maybe is quite old.
dont forget it can be affected by the network coverage too. in fact some of the power regulation in gsm network is managed from the base station.
EDIT: i mean, besides a hundred other things network-controlled that can affect your battery life, the antenna can actually tell your phone how much power it must use when transmitting.
Hey, i have switched my Stock rom to the Energy rom (.sensity version). Phone was taken from recharger around 6:30 and around 15:30 energy has ended. 9 hours while on stock i could get more than 24. During these 9 hours wifi was turned off and backlight set to nearly minimum. I used 3G for around 3 hours and after that i turned it off using comm manager. Is it normal? How much can you get on energy rom? How can i control what applications are turned on and what applications are using internet connection? Maybe there is kind of gps turned on? And i am not sure if it comes to the email that downloads messages.
bumping the thread
I've had terrible battery life with Energy ROMs for the past year or so. Release after release, his ROM never improved and continued to add new but buggy software. The phone would end up warm even when in standby in my pocket or on my desk. It heats up even after resetting the phone and never interacting with it (ie. no apps are running). 3G and wifi are off and the radio and rilphone.dll match. I don't know what causes the phone to heat up but that heat production means the battery is getting drained.
I have happily ditched Energy in favor of Monfro ROM. The phone is now always at a nice ambient temperature, as it should be.
as above test other roms if you still draining battary life real fst then maybe its time to get a new battary. if thoses roms work fine then switch over to them.
also post in Energy roms thread for help.
I had the same problem with the battery life, but with me it was happening in the night, so one time i woke up in night my phone was extremly hot and it had lost 20% battery since 3 hours before.
By that time i used TAEL Rom, I thought it might be the ROM, so i changed it a few times using Energy and other popular roms, but the problem still accured.
Then i change my radio and the problem was gone.
Could be that you have the same problem, but you have to try different things. It could be the ROM it could be the Radio, or it could be your battery.
I would have to agree with LtGenHartman that changing the radio may help or solve an issue. If you have an unbranded and unlocked version of HTC Touch Pro then i would say to find the appropriate radio and flash it (but keep in mind that you can brick your device rendering it useless).
My device is a branded HTC Touch Pro (aka HTC Fuze from AT&T), and since the device is not unlocked I will brick my device for sure. The battery draining is coming from two areas:
1)WM 6.5 does suck up a little more battery life since there are more processes running in the background of the operating system. Devices that do run WM 6.5 natively may not have this issue since it is optimized to run on that particular device. Also, there maybe a larger capacity battery that a device is using so battery drain is no longer an issue.
2) HTC Sense UI does drain more battery. It is a combo of processes running in the background to run the UI. It is also that there are fancy animation like the weather and transitions. Try eliminating some tabs that you do not use (For me I eliminated Stocks, Twitter and Facebook). It will free up some RAM and it processes will decrease. This may indirectly affect the battery life. Try using the standard Windows Default aka Titanium UI to see if there is a difference.
For the actual battery, try draining the battery completely before giving your device a full, healthy charge before you go to bed. I notice a bit of a difference in my favor since I did that a few days ago. I read this will recalibrate the battery giving a more accurate discharge.
When you are not using the internet on your phone remember to switch off all the data radios (disconnect from the data network, switch off WiFi). I think its ok if your device is finding the 3G network but as long as you are not connected to it, no data is being constantly sent and received so the battery life should increase. Try also switching all your apps that do use the internet to a manual switch rather than auto updating.
Just remember the stock WM 6.1 ROM has less processes, TouchFlo3D has less animations and tabs to use and the ROM was optimized for your device. That is why you will be getting the best battery life results.
These are some tips for you to try out, let us know if this help any. I don't expect a massive increase in battery life but some does help and from my experience does go a long way.
Separate issue: I do notice that the battery reader is not as accurate either. I notice that if i reboot the device the battery meter decreases (for example, if i reboot a device with 65% life i notice after reboot it can go as low as 50%). Wondering why that is?
hi guys, as the topic name suggests, is there any way to determine your battery capacity/health? i ask this because my phone (and battery) is well over a year old now and i understand based on my reading that with multiple charge cycles, the battery health will degrade.
this is relevant because of late i have been experiencing increasingly poor battery life (though i think it may also have to do with the recent change over to ICS), i have no idea how people manage to get up to 4 hours of screen on time, as it is i can barely hit 2 hours with light-moderate use, much less playing games/watching videos.
Is there any way for me to check if my stock battery is still good to go? because if not i am considering getting a battery off ebay or buying a replacement battery from samsung.
thanks in advance
I don't know about capacity but you can get your battery health and other info by dialing this on your dialpad:
* # * # 4 6 3 6 # * # *
You can also check batteries voltage using that code. Or do it manually with a battery testing device or multimeter. Fully charge the battery, remove from phone and test voltage. If the voltage is a lot less than the one displayed on the label (I think our batteries have a 3.7V), then most likely your battery is starting to go dead.
Others thing you can do is to check if any app is running in the background (whatsup, skype...etc). Remove unwanted services while not being used: bluetooth, wireless, NFC, etc. And try a different kernel. I've heard Matr1x kernel is one of the best in regards to battery life.
Over the course of a year it is standard for one of these batteries to lose up to around 20% of their charge, unlikely very much more. If you think you've gone from ~5 hours screen time to under 3 hours i'd be looking at a software culprit or seriously dead battery, though the former definitely first as it can effect a new battery much the same.
As always, BetterBatteryStats (get it from xda) and CPUSpy can provide some insight into any software abnormalities causing excess battery drain.
thanks guys, ill try using the multimeter method, been trying all sorts of kernels with the latest cybergrmod ics rom. dont think i see much of a difference between air kernel and matrix (though the latter does give me reboots)