Hi guys,
I have been struggling for quite a while to investigate why my battery drain is about 150mA best case. I have installed Onyx micro version and disabled almost all unnesessary services and applications, and yet could not live a day even in stand by mode without recharging. Battery capacity is 1100mA, so with 150mA drain, it lasted less than 10 hours per day.
I have checked almost all available ROM's on this site, starting with the original HTC one.
No luck ! So, I've concluded it was no ROM issue. Then, I started to play with IPL and SPL. I had both version 3.14.
To make the long story short, I found the best combination of IPL 3.14 and SPL 3.10
Now I have 91-100mA stand by current drain all the time. Sometimes during the night this value droops to 41mA.
I am preety happy with this and also wonder whether anyone has managed to get a better battery life for his Elf ?
Cheers.
The two things you haven't looked at are the radio and the SIM. I'd try with a different sim for 24 hours and search for the best radio rom. My Elfin battery life is terrible but I think it's down to using M2D.
there is a lot of factor that could affect the battery life, from software, to hardware, the most common problem, is battery age, as old your battery are, the less it will hold the charge. on my elfin I have onyx 5.1.1, IPL 3.10 and HSPL 3.10, radio 3.39.90(I'm having better signal with almost no difference in battery drain) I use the backlight on the second darker step, not the default second brighter one. I usually take no more than 10 calls at day, each one of about 1 to 2 minutes, usually don't use(and is always off) the wifi, the bluetooth I use it occasionally while driving about 3 miles from work to home, and to listen to music at work, 1 or 2 hours per day. data connection(EDGE) is always on, but not used very often just to check email once in a while and update weather once of two time a day.
my battery holds for 2 days, most 2 days and a half.
I think your battery may be the problem, maybe is quite old.
dont forget it can be affected by the network coverage too. in fact some of the power regulation in gsm network is managed from the base station.
EDIT: i mean, besides a hundred other things network-controlled that can affect your battery life, the antenna can actually tell your phone how much power it must use when transmitting.
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Hello friends ,
It have been 2 weeks since i got my universal (o2 xda exec) , I have tried most of the WM6 roms here , but most of them dont give good battery life..
Anybody know which is the best ROM with Best battery life? or any tips how to improve the battery life?
I usually read books and rarely hear music and i have 4 apps installed and i find the battery drain fast within 3.5hours. For this reason i turned off the phone and wifi. My uni is a new one , i dont want to have the charger all the time with myself.. I go places , do please help me..
Thanks in advance
battery life is awfull and unpredictable
I have the same problem. I use the same crossbow 2.12.08 version
with update radio ( from 1.15 ) to 1.18
I have a larger battery 3200 mAh, but th ebattery life is never more than one day. Though the battery is brandnew...
Worse is that when charging sometimes it shows 100% but most of the time this drops within a few minutes ( 2-4 ) to 97%
Then after 1-2 hours it is on 60% while usage is minimal. no WLAN, no BT
Also sometimes for some reason the battery is very warm ( during loading ).
When disconnected it turns out the universal is almost empty. Tried to disconnect the battery and leave it outside for 5 minutes then back in. but nithing seems to really improve. Also without memory card the results are more or less the same. Also always I close the applications fully.
Maybe someone can tell me what are the possible reasons...? Is is the software. Does it not see the actual charge correctly? Or is there a "hidden"battery user. Read the article about leds and all that, but this is way out of that league.
Rgds
I think that your battery is no good. My battery is 2 years old, it's the original battery 1650mAh and the battery life is 2.5 hours with WiFi enabled (internet navigation via WiFi)
If you want your battery to last longer, check the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalSmallBattery
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalBatteryIssue
openone said:
I usually read books and rarely hear music and i have 4 apps installed and i find the battery drain fast within 3.5hours.
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Before blaming ROMs check the device with another battery. I had the same problem too, checked several ROMs and even downgraded to WM5 and at the end it appeared that my battery simply dies, while my other battery showed far better lifetime.
You are definitely having a battery issue rather than ROM. I am using 2.1.2.08 also and can get 3 days of normal mixed use from my original 1620mah battery.
Why not try "resetting" the battery, as discussed in previous forums, I for one can testify to it's success.
I just received my fuze for 2 weeks, but my talk time is really bad. I tried almost every radio available with matching rilphone.dll. I see its listed at least 5 hours talk time, but my battery drop like 15% battery with 20 mins talk time. that's with 3G off, data off. just Bluetooth and Phone on. I get about the similar battery life with all the radios.
Well , you can just turn the bluetooth off. I have the same problem when I using bluetooth headset .
I guess the CPU and touch screen takes a lot of power , I have to charge my raphael every day.
maybe you can buy a larger battery .
what other programs are you running? Running this like SPB mobile shell and TF3D are big battery drains. Also, keeping your other programs running in the background is bad for the batterylife. try turning off all programs that you're not using after you're done with them.
I do have SPB Mobile Shell running. does SPB Mobile Shell affect talk time battery life? because it drains about 2-3% the whole night when I sleep.
Bluetooth!
Same here, while using bluetooth, the battery drains like anything. I dont use bluetooth anymore. It sucks but cant help.
sorry for not replying after a while.
i have SPB MS3 and it doesnt really drain it too much (a little bit but not too much)
what rom/radio are you using? those can be very significant factors for battery drain
i dont got a problem with mine, im running XBMods Rhodium TF3D with the AT&T Leaked ROM, with radio 1.12.25.19 i get like 7 hours out of it, without TF3D i get like 8.5 hours, and the reason i have that much its because i keep the phone off as in the screen, and like also i dont do anything to it like txt while on the phone and also signal is also a role in battery life as well
I had bad battery performance with Stock AT&T ROM
Then I flashed the Energy ROM 2.0 two weeks back and now the battery performance is much better
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Battery life on my Fuze sucked so bad the first week I had it. I saw it drop 10 percent just by looking at it for 10 minutes. So i started to dig around here on these awesome forums and the solution was simple. Whether you use stock rom or custom rom. Just find a way to turn off 3g networking. There are a bunch of tricks to do it. One thing i noticed is that my area has barely noticable 3g coverage so i found the signal reception always 1 or 2 bars. When i disabled the 3g connection, i found my battery increased dramatically. You can see for yourself by using DrSigstat. With the 3g its using over 200mah constantly trying to acquire the weak signal. This uses the battery very quickly. With the 3g off I am using as of this message 53Mah which extends battery life immensely. I am only connected to edge checking email every 30 minutes and this phone is usable. If you need the speed you simply toggle the 3g back on. The 3g network drains battery quick disable it I know there are a bunch of CABS to do it and even add it to the Comm Manager. Hopefully this helps.
I had the same problem, but that all changed when I took the phone on a Tahoe trip. Since I was using Garmin, the phone was ON most of the time and about 2 or 3 times the battery completely drained -- the phone got switched off on those occasions. And I used Motorola car charger to charge the phone during that trip.
When I got home a couple of days later, all of a sudden, the battery holds up like anything. Now I can go on without charging for upto 3 days with moderate use of course, but I do have google calendar and contacts sync'd up using activesync, 3G is always on and email sync'd thru pop3. weather and stocks updated few times a day as well.
And soon after I flashed EnergyROM with latest radio and matching rilphone.dll and now I have to admit that its a totally different experience with this ROM and the battery holds really well as well.
So I think that draining the battery completely and charging it using Motorola charger helped and then the EneryROM has a part to play as well.
Like zalooa said above, if you are in a poor 3G coverage area, it's going to drain your battery a lot faster, so location matters as well.
Hello friends, I currently have a fuze flashed with NRG's latest EnergyROM and I can only push about 5 hrs of heavy use or 8hrs of light use.
Light use consists of:
150 Text messages,
Email every 15 minutes,
3G Turned off
20 Minutes total talk time (Not even sometimes)
Windows Live Messenger online (not the whole day, just a couple hours) and maybe having a 20 minute IM conversation.
Heavy use consists off:
Music Playing
Heavy Texting (300 or more texts)
Screen on most of the time
Most use on EDGE
Browse a couple websites
Maybe some youtube on 3G
I have uninstalled Gyrator to get better life.
I have flashed many ROMs and I this is the best I can get to. How is your experiences? I'm willing to flash 6.1 or 6.5. Let me know what works for you with ROM + Radio + Rilphone combo you have. Thanks!
Everything depends on the rom u have installed. Try this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528217
i drop about 5 pct an hour without doing anything at all
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i drop about 5 pct an hour without doing anything at all
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did u check to see if ur rilphone.dll matches ur radio? cuz thats one possibility thats causing the rapid drops
My battery lasts about 2 days if I don't use the phone heavily but I think that if you squeeze a day out of your Pro with heavy use as you mentioned, you can be glad...
Most of the smartphones use a lot of battery in case of heavy use....
my stock battery lasts me something like 24 hours with medium use. battery life is very radio/rom/charge pattern dependant.
bedobela said:
My battery lasts about 2 days if I don't use the phone heavily but I think that if you squeeze a day out of your Pro with heavy use as you mentioned, you can be glad...
Most of the smartphones use a lot of battery in case of heavy use....
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Right, but even with the slightest use I can only squeeze no more than 10 hrs. I tried every lots of combos with radio and ROMs. NATF 4.7 and Elite RC4 was pretty good enough but I want WM 6.5. Im gonna try the radio you have on your sig just for the heck of it and an almost empty ROM to see what I can accomplish.
Thank you everyone
ya i made sure to match up rilphone
Put it like this... im running Energyrom and I took my phone off the charger at 7 am EST. Right now it's 10:10 EST and I'm down to almost 65% already. That's with Beejive, Seven email with 3 accounts and about 10-15 texts. If I didnt like the rom so much I wouldve dumped it long ago but I just suffer and carry a charger with me.
Check out this program.
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Put it like this... im running Energyrom and I took my phone off the charger at 7 am EST. Right now it's 10:10 EST and I'm down to almost 65% already. That's with Beejive, Seven email with 3 accounts and about 10-15 texts. If I didnt like the rom so much I wouldve dumped it long ago but I just suffer and carry a charger with me.
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I know what you mean. It REALLY hurts but at least you make it thru the day. I can't. But EnergyROM is so slick and fast... I tried the Dynasty Rom its one of the best on battery I've ever had but its a little too buggy for my taste and the iPhone like home screen is not my thing.
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Thanks, I'll try that
I have been able to reduce the battery consumption to almost zero on stand by. But it uses 1-2% per minute on Wifi or GPS use. Infact it gets drained fater than it gets charged if GPS is used connected to car charger, with data and WiFi off.
My only gripe is that it gets drained fater than it charges on car charger when GPS is ON.
DJGonzo said:
Light use consists of:
150 Text messages,
Email every 15 minutes,
3G Turned off
20 Minutes total talk time (Not even sometimes)
Windows Live Messenger online (not the whole day, just a couple hours) and maybe having a 20 minute IM conversation.
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If this is light use, then I am Osama bin Laden. 150 messages, WLM and IM means that your display is on most of the time (while reading and replying), and display is one of the great consumers of the battery. Also, the fact that your checking email so often, and you're on internet through IM and WLM, means that you're online practically all the time. Internet is the greatest battery killer, btw. Anyway, I would recommend you to use the stock ROM because the battery lasts longer than majority of custom ROMs, and if don't want that, you shouldn't use 6.5 OS - it's a battery hog at this time. Also, lower your backlight, set in power settings "Turn off the device after 1 minute" and do a search on this forum about more battery saving tips.
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If this is light use, then I am Osama bin Laden. 150 messages, WLM and IM means that your display is on most of the time (while reading and replying), and display is one of the great consumers of the battery. Also, the fact that your checking email so often, and you're on internet through IM and WLM, means that you're online practically all the time. Internet is the greatest battery killer, btw. Anyway, I would recommend you to use the stock ROM because the battery lasts longer than majority of custom ROMs, and if don't want that, you shouldn't use 6.5 OS - it's a battery hog at this time. Also, lower your backlight, set in power settings "Turn off the device after 1 minute" and do a search on this forum about more battery saving tips.
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I know the brightness is a total killer. Last year I had 15 phones... My SIM card is so beat up that it looks like a dog chewed on it. I know all the battery saving tips. I just can't make it work. I do not constantly check WLM. Just once maybe a half hour but I do not IM. I just leave it on. The blackjack II lasts me a whole day from 7 to 12 with email, WLM, major texting, browsing the web and more. I'm not comparing the 2 but the battery life REALLY sucks on this thing. Stock ROM is too slow and useless for my taste. I'm flashing timlol's like-stock ROM to see. The Dynasty ROM really has good battery life but its too buggy. Man I sound so pessimistic. Lol. I still love this phone.
tahdor said:
I have been able to reduce the battery consumption to almost zero on stand by. But it uses 1-2% per minute on Wifi or GPS use. Infact it gets drained fater than it gets charged if GPS is used connected to car charger, with data and WiFi off.
My only gripe is that it gets drained fater than it charges on car charger when GPS is ON.
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I never had that problem. I use google maps on 3G and GPS and it lasts me at least 4 hours on a full charge. You might have a radio/rilphone problem. Try flashing another radio with a matching rilphone
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I know the brightness is a total killer. Last year I had 15 phones... My SIM card is so beat up that it looks like a dog chewed on it. I know all the battery saving tips. I just can't make it work. I do not constantly check WLM. Just once maybe a half hour but I do not IM. I just leave it on. The blackjack II lasts me a whole day from 7 to 12 with email, WLM, major texting, browsing the web and more. I'm not comparing the 2 but the battery life REALLY sucks on this thing. Stock ROM is too slow and useless for my taste. I'm flashing timlol's like-stock ROM to see. The Dynasty ROM really has good battery life but its too buggy. Man I sound so pessimistic. Lol. I still love this phone.
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You don't have to check WLM or IM all the time, it's enough that you are connected to web all the time. Blackjack II has a 2,4" display wioth 320x240 resolution, & Raphael 2,8", 480x640. HTC could've integrate bigger battery, but then our Raphael would be a fat piggy phone.
Btw., Timolol's ROM is pretty stable & good on battery - good choice.
dont forget batteries aren't meant to be permanent. they are consumables!
After 1 year of normal usage you should notice the battery isn't quite what it used to be. after 2 years, it will seem like it needs more charges then it did before.
After 3 years and longer, IMO, its just time to replace the battery.
I replace by laptop battery every 2 years (same chemistry as my cellphone battery), and each time I am shocked and how bad the old one was.
New is always better in the case of batteries.
My next point is that HEAT is the main enemy to any battery. Keeping the phone in your pocket or hot car is worse then in a purse or on a table.
Aside from that, theres a ton of good info above about lowering the drain on the battery and therefore increasing its useful life.
ryaske said:
dont forget batteries aren't meant to be permanent. they are consumables!
After 1 year of normal usage you should notice the battery isn't quite what it used to be. after 2 years, it will seem like it needs more charges then it did before.
After 3 years and longer, IMO, its just time to replace the battery.
I replace by laptop battery every 2 years (same chemistry as my cellphone battery), and each time I am shocked and how bad the old one was.
New is always better in the case of batteries.
My next point is that HEAT is the main enemy to any battery. Keeping the phone in your pocket or hot car is worse then in a purse or on a table.
Aside from that, theres a ton of good info above about lowering the drain on the battery and therefore increasing its useful life.
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Well unfortunately, I must keep my phone inside my pocket or in a case most of the time since I go to school and I do not want the teachers on my case. And looks like the rapahel likes to run a little hot and I'm really scared for my battery. But at least I have two (one from my old Fuze which only lasted me a month since i broke it :-( )
But yeah, my phone gets warm sometimes, and its with most radios. Some more than others but even with matching rilphone. Not sure what thats all about...
About half a day or so, but that's with me listening to music most of the day and EDGE with Exchange Activesync on.
I used to have crazy battery drain. RRE I got 5 hours tops with 3g on and a bit of internet and texting. NRG synergy rom I got 8-10 hours in GSM mode only with 1 hour of internet and a hand ful of texts.
I just flashed my radio to 1.14.25.05 and flashed the new warhawk NRG rom and I took my phone off the charger at 945am and its currently 5pm and Ive been texting most of the day with 3g on and Im currently at 82% battery. All settings are just as they are set right out the box with a freshly flashed warhawk rom.
With Energy standart from 17Sep09- it took 5 hours until full discharge...
Impossible... check Radio or Rillphone...
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With Energy standart from 17Sep09- it took 5 hours until full discharge...
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wow thats hillarious...
my 16 sept 09 build need about 2 days to fully discharge..
backlight is set to auto
3g off
data connection only if needed
and of course matching rillphone and Radio...
what with u?
You cannot measure a ROM's battery life performance by installing a ROM and seeing how long it takes to die. The device needs time to calibrate. About 1 week of normal usage minimum. After I flash a ROM, I'll sometimes get 5-12 hours on the first charge. After a week I get typically 48-72 hours per charge. This is with screen at full brightness, 3g/data on, lots of txt and calls etc. This has been my experience with all of NRG's ROMs. I do install the recommended radio, no need to mess with rilphone.dll if you are using Energy ROMs with the recommended radio.
With TAEL rom and 1.11.25.01 I was at 71% after 3 days of liberal usage. I am trying NRGZ's latest build now but TAEL's ROM has been by FAR the best I have ever used. I haven't left NRGZ since I got my Fuze 6 months ago, and TAEL instantly switched me. Battery life is much better, the ROM is better in every category. I recommend TAEL, with ENERGYRom a close second.
I get exactly 24 hours from full charge to less than 10%.
3G always on
Data connection always on
a few phone calls, a few texts, light data usage (web, rss, email, maps)
Using latest EnergyROM
I can get 1.5~2 days maximum if I turn 3G off, data off, and further limit data usage.
This phone is just extra bad with battery life in general. Even with the stock ATT rom I wasn't able to get more than 2 days.
am I the only one that uses a cradle charger with an extra battery and not care about batt life.
I care more about the quality of the rom.
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am I the only one that uses a cradle charger with an extra battery and not care about batt life.
I care more about the quality of the rom.
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nah, I would also prefer a newer/better performing ROM at the expense of battery life (which isn't always the case). As long as it last me throughout the day im fine.
Battery life is also highly dependant on geography. When I'm in the country (with coverage at all) the battery runs much quicker.
These are all subjective matters and opinions. You can not compare the use that each one makes and where each one makes it. Too many variables. The time it takes to discharge does not mean anything, or it says very very little to the other person.
It would be interesting if someone conducted a benchmark with some metrics to evaluate what each ROM consumes and where does the power goes (which apps, backlight, ...).
Maybe one day we can have a standard benchmark, maybe a simple thing, which can be used by the chefs when they release their ROMs, or by someone else, and that gives results that we're able to compare.
Perhaps someone who is reading this, is willing take this challenge and develop such a benchmark. That would be great.
ewuzh said:
I get exactly 24 hours from full charge to less than 10%.
3G always on
Data connection always on
a few phone calls, a few texts, light data usage (web, rss, email, maps)
Using latest EnergyROM
I can get 1.5~2 days maximum if I turn 3G off, data off, and further limit data usage.
This phone is just extra bad with battery life in general. Even with the stock ATT rom I wasn't able to get more than 2 days.
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I generally get the same usage with 3G and Data set to "always on", gps daily and maps. I can go a full 24-36 hours routinely and over the weekend if i'm not on the phone a full two days. I'm a flash ***** so i've had this on several ROMS including Energy and NATF.
I always use the ril with the appropriate radio, but accidentally used the 1.12.25.19 ril with radio 1.14.25.35 with great success... In doing this I was getting super battery life immediately....
But at the end of the day you need to find what combo works for you, what may be great for me in Atlanta may totally suck butt in San Diego or anyplace else for that matter. So test test test and report back...
i can only suggest this: LevelSightSvc.1.0.3.2.CAB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446434
install, go to power settings, disable SO auto adjust, and set the slider in the position u like (i usually set the 3rd step from the left).
LevelSightSvc fully replace the system autolight with HUGE improvement of my battery life.
Try it.
There are lots of things to take into account with battery life. Your radio can play a huge role as well as the base build the rom was built on. Then the various settings and apps suckle the battery tit also.
I put my phone on a charger every night before I go to bed since I use it as an alarm clock too. I usually have 60-70% left over with some light GPS, full brightness, a dozen texts and 5-6 calls. I don't know how accurate that is since I'm a chef and flash my phone 5-6 times a day. The latest one I've used for a while and seems nice.
there's a prog from nueROM called nueDynamicClock which underclocks your cpu when it's on standby or when the screen is off. it will increase your batt life significantly if your phone is on standby for long periods of time..
I agree with some of the others.
I am currently using EnergyRom Genesis build 09-20-09 (1.14.25.05 radio) and my battery doesn't run out that quickly. I recently did a stress test (as a comparison to a Nokia E71 I own) and the phone went roughly 5 hours before it hit 10%.
However, take my usage into consideration:
1) 3G always on
2) Heavy data usage (Youtube, Internet Radio, web surfing, etc)
3) Receiving text and emails
Obviously, that is very heavy usage, and will naturally drain the battery, but it took five hours to do so. By comparison, if I had just use it normally, it would last roughly 1.5 days.
Hi,
i have an abnormal battery drain on my mda vario iv. The battery with light use up to 30min internet, 3-4 texts, 5min phone call drains in 5-6 hours. The e mail is set to manual, weather too, wi-fi is off more than 75% of the time,backlight to auto, energy saving to turn off screen and phone... I have the Energy ROM Photon 2, and 1.14.25.35 with matching rilphone. Tried a fer battery cabs, and some GPS cabs, because I have an enormous lag, that seemed to drain the battery even further.
Please help
I changed the radio to 1.14.25.05 with matching rilphone. The problem seems to be with gps, i used the gps for 15min, left it at 80% it went to sleep for 2 hours, and after I woke it up it was on 33%?!!
Help please
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Hy Hy,
got the same problem... but don't know why...
I made a radio update to 1.11.25.01 since it is gone.
May be it is a problem with the newer versions?
thanx for the reply
could be, i will try,and report back. Definetely Energy ROM is very power consuming, the best reviews battery-wise are for Timolols roms, but the links are broken, and can not be downloaded. Energy rom is nice and smooth, but the ram consumption on idile is 55%,and that takes a lot of power. I tried a lot of tips from various sites, but nothing seems to work. Is there a program that can measure power consumption in certain moments?
seems like it's your radio as mentioned before. some energy roms have been great on battery life (i've gotten up to 36 hrs!) and some die after 8. maybe try a different version of the energy rom too?
My Ram consumption on idile is 43-48% and i use my Touch Pro to hear Mp3's the hole day at work ... and got a Battery livetime of about 9 to 11 Hours ...
But if i use my Navigation system it dies in about 2-3 hours... is it normal for GPS?
yes it is normal for gps use. 3h is actually a good result
I have had my Fuze for a few days now, also flashed to an Energy ROM (21885) and radio version 1.02.25.32. I am pretty disappointed with the battery life, I have it connected to a USB cable for most of the day, so its charged at work. When I leave at 4pm, the phone is barely touched until 6:30am the following day, at which point the battery is dead.
Wifi, Bluetooth, GPS are all off, I have GLight, ASKicker and nueROM Processor running on Powersave mode. I have not messed with the settings of these much yet, but am surprised at how poor the battery really is.
I will probably end up picking up a 1500mAH battery at some point.
lately ive had terrible battery life because of data.
i have average while texting and just using the phone
but data can take off about 7 pct every 10 mins. that dont seem normal to me