My 850Mhz OMNIA-2 long review + benchmarks - General Topics

I had written a very long review on OMNIA-2 with multiple performance benchmarks at below link, in Traditional Chinese.
Enjoy!
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/?prod_id=3387&tid=4190515&page=1&list_page=1&rt=120027
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I've used TCPMP re-captured my OMNIA-2 CPU speed screenshot it now score,
850 Mhz

Congrats for your benchmarks.
Not of much interest here as we dedicate to HTC devices only

That's great fast benchmarks Hopefully HTC will finally take notice

Can you confirm lang change option like most nokia, se, lg etc etc phones ?

orb3000 said:
Congrats for your benchmarks.
Not of much interest here as we dedicate to HTC devices only
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I can see lots of HTC threads here...
but since when xda-developers forum changed to HTC-developers.com?
And if it does then I'll stop visiting this forum anymore!

borce_razor said:
Can you confirm lang change option like most nokia, se, lg etc etc phones ?
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Are you or at least have you ever used a PPC/WM PDA PHONE?

NewForce said:
I can see lots of HTC threads here...
but since when xda-developers forum changed to HTC-developers.com?
And if it does then I'll stop visiting this forum anymore!
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Let me copy and paste an extract from the front page of this great site:
"Welcome to XDA-Developers.com
This site is mostly about certain PDA-phones, made by a firm called HTC in Taiwan. They called them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. They are sold through mobile operators that give them their own names. We got our first such phone as 'XDA', hence the name of this site.
Since we developed software for these phones, we needed very specific technical information. When we started xda-developers, neither Microsoft, nor HTC nor the mobile operators seemed eager or even willing to give it to us. So we 'reverse-engineered' the devices, found a lot of information, and shared it with the world. But as our site grew we realised that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from a lack of support. They started using the xda-developers forum to communicate and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developer forum."
This is an HTC devices only forum, that is the position of the owners which I support.
Hope you still be visiting us here, if not would be a shame...

orb3000 said:
"Welcome to XDA-Developers.com
This site is mostly about certain PDA-phones, made by a firm called HTC in Taiwan. They called them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. They are sold through mobile operators that give them their own names. We got our first such phone as 'XDA', hence the name of this site.
Since we developed software for these phones, we needed very specific technical information. When we started xda-developers, neither Microsoft, nor HTC nor the mobile operators seemed eager or even willing to give it to us. So we 'reverse-engineered' the devices, found a lot of information, and shared it with the world. But as our site grew we realised that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from a lack of support. They started using the xda-developers forum to communicate and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developer forum."
This is an HTC devices only forum, that is the position of the owners which I support.
Hope you still be visiting us here, if not would be a shame...
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That statement was made ancient time ago, and when the old timer doesn't have much PDA phone choice.
So as this site grew that statement is strongly not appropriate anymore. Do you agree?
Worst thing, O2 aka maker of the original XDA already close-down for good.
Does this mean XDA-developers.com need to close-down as well? (I hope not)
If it does, it'll be really shame as lots of ppl love this site, including me.
Byw,grabbing hard on HTC foots does not earn anyone a single dim or any mercy at all.
XDA foot? Door closed long ago. Wake-up!

That will be a decision of the owners, which I think it won´t change...
p.s. As far as I know O2 has been buyed by Telefonica (Spain) and still alive

okay
A, orb3000, we all know this is a htc forum, but we still like to be kept abreast of the latest technology, we want people like newforce to post this type of news as it gives us an idea of what hardware other manufacterers are putting in the devices
so when u write "Not of much interest here as we dedicate to HTC devices only", this just isnt true as we want this type of info to keep us clued in.
just because this is a htc devices forum doesnt mean we dont want people to contirbute news on other hardware.
B, NewForce, this is and always has been a htc device thread and its not changing anytime soon
but like i said above posts can be made on other hardware models unless its a post asking for a forum

NewForce said:
Are you or at least have you ever used a PPC/WM PDA PHONE?
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Very funny I have more than 10 htc devices + other wm phones. Read this http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=6634 and than answer to my question.

borce_razor said:
Very funny I have more than 10 htc devices + other wm phones. Read this http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=6634 and than answer to my question.
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Alright... then does your 10 htc devices do Nokia stuff?
Think you should already answer your own question.
Finally, just to be more polite, Singapore OMNIA-2 just like your 10 htc.
Phew... almost missed the link you'd posted, think the multi-lang option only available in Europe spec/rom OMNIA-2.

-PiLoT- said:
okay
A, orb3000, we all know this is a htc forum, but we still like to be kept abreast of the latest technology, we want people like newforce to post this type of news as it gives us an idea of what hardware other manufacterers are putting in the devices
so when u write "Not of much interest here as we dedicate to HTC devices only", this just isnt true as we want this type of info to keep us clued in.
just because this is a htc devices forum doesnt mean we dont want people to contirbute news on other hardware.
B, NewForce, this is and always has been a htc device thread and its not changing anytime soon
but like i said above posts can be made on other hardware models unless its a post asking for a forum
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Hi Hi PiLoT! I fully understand and appreciate your points. Thanks!
I've always know this is htc devices forum. But I'm happy it now turned to be more international, minus the old shallow.
However it be, it will not stop me from coming here even if xda-develops.com not going to change the name for this life time as I know it's different now.

NewForce said:
Alright... then does your 10 htc devices do Nokia stuff?
Think you should already answer your own question.
Finally, just to be more polite, Singapore OMNIA-2 just like your 10 htc.
Phew... almost missed the link you'd posted, think the multi-lang option only available in Europe spec/rom OMNIA-2.
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I think the same Anyway, just go to modaco, i'm sure that they will make something for omnia 2.

borce_razor said:
I think the same Anyway, just go to modaco, i'm sure that they will make something for omnia 2.
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Oh my... Oh my... my bad, sorry borce_razor, I had just found out the report is truth.
Samsung OMNIA-2 indeed something different on this aspect from all the PDA phone I had ever own and used.
Yes the web article from wmpoweruser reported correctly,
Samsung Omnia-2 indeed the first multi-language Windows Mobile phone.
Hooray! It's a good news for most WM phone users.
Although this language changing operation from English to others lang took about 10 minutes include a HARD RESET, but think it's worth while to invest in for users in Europe.

Hmm I heard that only need soft reset btw would you like to make dump from rom ?

-PiLoT- said:
okay
A, orb3000, we all know this is a htc forum, but we still like to be kept abreast of the latest technology, we want people like newforce to post this type of news as it gives us an idea of what hardware other manufacterers are putting in the devices
so when u write "Not of much interest here as we dedicate to HTC devices only", this just isnt true as we want this type of info to keep us clued in.
just because this is a htc devices forum doesnt mean we dont want people to contirbute news on other hardware.
B, NewForce, this is and always has been a htc device thread and its not changing anytime soon
but like i said above posts can be made on other hardware models unless its a post asking for a forum
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@pilot, that is my opinion and is very valid, as yours or any other, here we always try to make discussions and opinions respecting each other.
And not all know this is an HTC forum, so making that clear is good.
The WWW is large enough to visit other places and find what other manufacturers are puting on their devices, I think on this site as an HTC specialized forum and that´s because I´m here, if I need any other devices comparative I can go to off topic or visit any other site.
We all (or most of all) have experience enough to do that.
So my point of view does not change, I have some time here and I think this site is large enough with the devices are included here to add more...
Yes comparatives to others brands are ok but in it´s proper place.
Anyway not you or me will decide this, for that we have a great Mod team!

Thank you very much, NewForce. I am highly interested in another phone which has the exact same CPU (B7610), so this is very helpful to me.

The looks good but the memory is to little for wm phone Im I right the first omnia was slow becouse of the low memory

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Want to help a friend install Touch Flo cube but do not want to reflash rom

Hi guys,
I am looking to add the touch flo cube on to my friend HTC TyTn II for him.
I understand that his one came unlocked and he likes his current firmwire that came with it with his operator settings.
Therefore, i am wondering if it is possible to add the Touch Flo gesture and cube without having to do hardspl or any other steps require to add software to the phone.
Is it possible just to add the 2 cab's for these two peices of software and install them on to the phone via the memory card?
Advice would be appriciated massively as i really do not want to mess his phone up.
Thanks in advance
Jason
You have 200+ posts, 6 phones, been around for 9 months and you're still asking questions that we'd expect from a 10 post n00b?
Go search for your answer... Someone should remove your senior status
Oh, while you're at it, listen to http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting... I've done some additional research only to discover that you have 29 selfishly written threads begging for answers when I'm sure you could have just asked on an existing thread or searched for...
hi there, thats for your reply.
i dont have 6 phones, i have 1. I'm trying to help my friends which are new to the scene as well.
i do ask question, and through your research, i answer questions that you may consider "noobish" for people who just joined as well.
not everyone has strong computer literacy you. I appricate your help, but if your just going to flame someone next time, i would rather you turn a blind eye to my questions.
thanks again for your help.
jason
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what i want wondering is if it is possible to add "TFloCube" and "FTouchFlo Configurator" on to the TyTnII via .cab and if there is a need to use hardspl.
this is what i would like to add
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i understand that an option is to flash a new rom, but since his current ROM has operator features on it, its rather difficult to go down that path.
therefore, are there .cab's to add TFloCube?
jasonchiu said:
through your research, i answer questions that you may consider "noobish" for people who just joined as well.
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The only helpful reply you've had in the last 50 posts is when you told a guy to go search and read the wiki. It's advice you should follow yourself.
jasonchiu said:
I appricate your help, but if your just going to flame someone next time, i would rather you turn a blind eye to my questions.
thanks again for your help.
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You are in serious need of flaming as you've got to be the biggest repeat offender I've ever seen on this forum.
Your only saving grace is that you seem to have good manners by always saying your 'please' and 'thank you'...
_Alex_ said:
The only helpful reply you've had in the last 50 posts is when you told a guy to go search and read the wiki. It's advice you should follow yourself.
You are in serious need of flaming as you've got to be the biggest repeat offender I've ever seen on this forum.
Your only saving grace is that you seem to have good manners by always saying your 'please' and 'thank you'...
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i have been helping people when they PM me as well. I have also been email people with .cab's.
what is your problem? i obviously need help thats why i post. I still havent found the .cab's which i need. arent forums a place you go to, to find help? As i said, not every one has strong computer literacy like you, why dont you give people a break?
i'll take it that your having a bad day mate. why not we just stop it here before it get immature.
if someone could people tell me what i want to do is possible ( add touch flo cube via .cab's without the need of flashing a new rom) i would appriciate it very much.
thanks, jason
Use this, works fine on my Kaiser.
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/ph...-cube-should-work-any-wm6-device-cabfile.html
JamesAub said:
Use this, works fine on my Kaiser.
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/ph...-cube-should-work-any-wm6-device-cabfile.html
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thanks James!
Alex, i did not know this exsisted, i was thinking that i needed cabs exacted from rom's that are currently avalible and it is the synergy in a forum where better applications can be found though knowledge of others.
jasonchiu said:
thanks James!
Alex, i did not know this exsisted, i was thinking that i needed cabs exacted from rom's that are currently avalible and it is the synergy in a forum where better applications can be found though knowledge of others.
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So this means you'll update the wiki with the link and the images you've posted, so you can continue contributing to benefit everyone?
no i wont alex. only someone will good knowledge should update the wiki. if someone asked me or posted a thread about this as well. i would simply give them the URL james gave me.
JamesAub said:
Use this, works fine on my Kaiser.
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/ph...-cube-should-work-any-wm6-device-cabfile.html
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It works so good! Love it..
Just one thing, this touchflo cube is verry sensitive! More than the normal touch cube.
check my movie
cube movie
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=cTjZaSrzD_A
lol almost flashed my phone (htc herald)
someone please post the cube.cab. the download link from 4winmobile is deat. it say :Linkid 119 does not exist
thanks
wildcard13 said:
someone please post the cube.cab. the download link from 4winmobile is deat. it say :Linkid 119 does not exist
thanks
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check out the last post in that thread, it gets you to another, updated thread.
Helped Me!
Thanks for the question and answer.
Had lost interest, but will try again!!!
No question to insignificant!
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I swear down,
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Feel better??
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Feel better??
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hardy har har bruv. Fact of the matter this place is full of idiots that are alot more rude and obnoxious because they are behind a screen. If they spoke to everyone offline like they do on, they would be walking around with black eyes.
Ive never understood why a grown adult would speak to someone online without the same manners and respect they would offline.
We all encounter people less techincial than us. Some many even be actually stupid. Thats no reason to talk down to them like they are a piece of dirt.
regardless of the fact they may ask annoying questions, you should feel honored someone wants to try your creation on their device. It should be very satisfying to know someone is getting real benefit from something you did, and trusted you enough to risk breaking their expensive gadget.
In any case, meh. Im slowly learning what I need to learn to flash my device, without asking many questions. I may even cook my own rom eventually. I respect the fact that there are many gueniwine and lovely people on this forum who get annoyed but that doesnt hide the fact that some are just total dicks.
My motto is never say anything to someone online that you wouldn't be brave enough to say to their face.
thoughtspeak said:
hardy har har bruv. Fact of the matter this place is full of idiots that are alot more rude and obnoxious because they are behind a screen. If they spoke to everyone offline like they do on, they would be walking around with black eyes.
My motto is never say anything to someone online that you wouldn't be brave enough to say to their face.
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Same as my motto, but you still see what I've been saying. Just do a search of my posts.
I think someone should ban you and kick you out. If you're not happy with how XDA is being, just get out of here.
Why you need to learn more is here (since you're not reading my signature links)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=44 said:
By Kyphur,
I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.
As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community.
Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to customize your device but rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself.
When I first came here with a Blue Angel it was a different environment. PDA Phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity (I paid over $400 for my BA). A $400 phone 4 years ago was expensive, today the Tilt is $300 after rebates but with inflation & the rise in the cost of other devices and the fact that there are other sources out there giving them away for $150 our neat bit of kit has become popular with mainstream users.
Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.
The NooB backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination.
As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.
Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position.
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thoughtspeak said:
hardy har har bruv. Fact of the matter this place is full of idiots that are alot more rude and obnoxious because they are behind a screen. If they spoke to everyone offline like they do on, they would be walking around with black eyes.
Ive never understood why a grown adult would speak to someone online without the same manners and respect they would offline.
We all encounter people less techincial than us. Some many even be actually stupid. Thats no reason to talk down to them like they are a piece of dirt.
regardless of the fact they may ask annoying questions, you should feel honored someone wants to try your creation on their device. It should be very satisfying to know someone is getting real benefit from something you did, and trusted you enough to risk breaking their expensive gadget.
In any case, meh. Im slowly learning what I need to learn to flash my device, without asking many questions. I may even cook my own rom eventually. I respect the fact that there are many gueniwine and lovely people on this forum who get annoyed but that doesnt hide the fact that some are just total dicks.
My motto is never say anything to someone online that you wouldn't be brave enough to say to their face.
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Well it happened 2 years ago, so it's all in the past .
Ta
Dave

X7510 ROM

I WANT THIS ROM !!!! my 50 € (or even more if needed) are avaliable
Things I like (from HTC web site):
The HTC Advantage™ features HTC's TouchFLO™ software which enhances finger touch scrolling and browsing of Web pages, documents, messages and contact lists. The Advantage™ will also include Opera Mobile 9 and Google Maps for mobile.
In addition to the many software enhancements, the HTC Advantage™ also adds a variety of new and improved hardware features including 16GB of storage, a new improved keyboard with haptic feedback and an updated version of VueFLO™ using a G-sensor that recognises the screen orientation of the device for optimal customer usage.
me too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wont you lose your dual camera in the 7510 rom?
I hope in the new PK 4.0 (temp codename VIENNA)
shivam said:
Wont you lose your dual camera in the 7510 rom?
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7510 has two camera, does'nt it? It is 7501 that has only 1 camera.
If You check real photo of MDA Ameo 16GB = X7510
It has front camera .
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And NO realVGA and no lights on KB too.
I am trying to find this ROM but may be today it exists only in some .pdf SPEC sheet!
No answer also from ROM cookers , they are just proud of their "secret" rom in the TAG. The ATHENA forum is becoming the only "donate or nothing" forum in XDA-DEVS!
We cannot find any image of ROM :
We cannot find any image of ROM :
sergiopi said:
And NO realVGA and no lights on KB too.
I am trying to find this ROM but may be today it exists only in some .pdf SPEC sheet!
No answer also from ROM cookers , they are just proud of their "secret" rom in the TAG. The ATHENA forum is becoming the only "donate or nothing" forum in XDA-DEVS!
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Man you crack me up. Truly funny. LOL
4.0 coming soon!!! YEA BABY!!!
PROUD OF MY SECRETS!
sergiopi said:
No answer also from ROM cookers , they are just proud of their "secret" rom in the TAG. The ATHENA forum is becoming the only "donate or nothing" forum in XDA-DEVS!
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Not sure if that was sarcasm or a true opinion, but if the latter then why don't you go and cook a 1st class stable ROM and share it with the rest for free!
I'm happy to donate to a cause which WILL produce an excellent ROM.
sergiopi said:
And NO realVGA and no lights on KB too.
I am trying to find this ROM but may be today it exists only in some .pdf SPEC sheet!
No answer also from ROM cookers , they are just proud of their "secret" rom in the TAG. The ATHENA forum is becoming the only "donate or nothing" forum in XDA-DEVS!
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you gotta be kiddin'
[OT]
Is a true sarcasm, in my managing experience things like "Athena project" never worked in a long range strategy (in the INTERNET developer’s forums model). And this is happening again here IMHO.
You pay to give a device to someone, he will produce "enough" results, then he will restart doing the things he loves to do (with his own device or the most popular device).
He will do those things primarily proud to spread his name and his job around. If you would to have something new… you have just created the monster, the “pay for ROM” business model.
Here (XDA-DEVS) there is a "passion driven" business model and IMHO (I know isn't popular here) athena project gave some results in the beginning, but in the long term a delicate equilibrium was broken.
It is a simple business school lesson, too long and boring (and off topic too) to explain here, how to manage a "free" or a "managed" environment. You ask me to explain WHY and I hope I answered
who said im stopping. i just need time to beat my previous work. raise the bar again. i have some new stuff that i am trying to work on getting perfected. i believe i have solved all the problems i had that kept me from working on the rom(*knock on wood*) so you should see a result soon. though ltxda is telling me this new build isnt as fast as the vanilla build i was doing before so maybe i might work on tweaking the speed for another day.
looks like tommorow i should begin on a beta of the roms. yes people we have moved from the alpha stage to the beta. also remember im working on a vanilla and full rom at the same time and i really never did something like this. i usually do one at a time. please be patient. i am far from retired as u would call it.
target release date: first week of march(1-7) or 2nd week of march(8-14).
sergiopi said:
Is a true sarcasm, in my managing experience things like "Athena project" never worked in a long range strategy (in the INTERNET developer’s forums model). And this is happening again here IMHO.
You pay to give a device to someone, he will produce "enough" results, then he will restart doing the things he loves to do (with his own device or the most popular device).
He will do those things primarily proud to spread his name and his job around. If you would to have something new… you have just created the monster, the “pay for ROM” business model.
Here (XDA-DEVS) there is a "passion driven" business model and IMHO (I know isn't popular here) athena project gave some results in the beginning, but in the long term a delicate equilibrium was broken.
It is a simple business school lesson, too long and boring (and off topic too) to explain here, how to manage a "free" or a "managed" environment. You ask me to explain WHY and I hope I answered
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Yet again, you continue to have negative feedback and misunderstandings about what's going on.
Just sit back and relax. You got three GREAT ROMs from the project and at least one more is coming. If the ROMs wouldn't be so great then you wouldn't be wanting more. ;-p
Now stop being such a negative whinny and shush. ;-p
4.0 is in the works. I guess you're not reading the posts and keeping up to date huh? Becuase I personally have mentioned the coming of 4.0, I even started a post on 4.0, etc.
You're just trying to get more info than you need. Won't happen. Just wait like the rest and eventually, one day, one year...you'll get a new ROM. If that's not good enough, feel free to cook one up for the community since you have a device and let's see it. I would love to help you by testing it. I'll be here waiting.
Man you still crack me up...in a good way of course.
EDIT:
One more thing...thank you all for replying to him as well. That's what sets the Athena forum apart from all others...truly intelligent and educated people that understand. Every now and then one slips through the cracks though. Guys and gals...yes and there are gals here...on behalf of the entire team and more importantly the community....thank you for the support and encouragement and dontations to make this possible. Hell that's thanking myself since I donated a great deal of money also. We were and are all in this together. Thank you!
Pawel062 said:
who said im stopping. i just need time to beat my previous work. raise the bar again. i have some new stuff that i am trying to work on getting perfected. i believe i have solved all the problems i had that kept me from working on the rom(*knock on wood*) so you should see a result soon. though ltxda is telling me this new build isnt as fast as the vanilla build i was doing before so maybe i might work on tweaking the speed for another day.
looks like tommorow i should begin on a beta of the roms. yes people we have moved from the alpha stage to the beta. also remember im working on a vanilla and full rom at the same time and i really never did something like this. i usually do one at a time. please be patient. i am far from retired as u would call it.
target release date: first week of march(1-7) or 2nd week of march(8-14).
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PK...as Project Leader I'm officially and publicly asking you to ignore correspondence from this guy. We need to focus on the project...not someone who's trying to get the inside scoop on the next great ROM. ROTFL!
YES SIR!!!
Excuse me SIR!!
I explain this again. I am just giving my honest opinion, you can agree or disagree, but I am not insulting anyone.
I am not trying to have any scoop, I disagree only to what I see here, different from the HERMES , KAISER , EXCALIBUR and WIZARD forums. I see developers communities, helping each other, and the main stream is to have news, utilities and ROM.
Here there are to many "secrets" and little knowledge sharing. May be I want only "steal" knowledge, sorry I need glasses to read, and as CEO I have people paid to do those things. My purpose isn't to have a new fantascientific ROM, is to share knowlege. And technology management is something I believe I can share. I expect the same from the others and answer like "shut up, silence and patience" or "I am the project leader and I am ordering: don't answer" isn't the one I expect from a forum.
I said, we aren't customers! And this is a "donate or nothing" model, a company-customer model that I can't agree .
May be I don't understand fully the english used here, but I don't like what I understand, and I try to say it loud!
BTW Thanks pawel62 for your answer, your are a nice person and I understand you are busy. I like you answering to technical question, as I said, isn't new ROM my target, is KNOWLEDGE, I still had the PK 3.0 ROM (now I have another one, but I can't share due to NDA)!
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YES SIR!!!
Excuse me SIR!!
I explain this again. I am just giving my honest opinion, you can agree or disagree, but I am not insulting anyone.
I am not trying to have any scoop, I disagree only to what I see here, different from the HERMES , KAISER , EXCALIBUR and WIZARD forums. I see developere communities, helping each other, and the main stream is to have news, utilities and ROM.
Here there are to many "secrets" and little knowledge sharing. May be I want only "steal" knowledge, sorry I need glasses to read, and as CEO I have people paid to do those things. My purpose isn't to have a new fantascientific ROM, is to share knowlege. And technology management is something I believe I can share. I expect the same from the others and answer like "shut up, silence and patience" or "I am the chef and I am ordering: don't answer" isn't the one I expect from a forum.
I said, we aren't customers! And this is a "donate or nothing" model, a company-customer model that I can't agree.
May be I don't understand fully the english used here, but I don't like what I understand, and I try to say it loud!
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Thank you, let`s see if others reply to this logic and explanation. ;p
Guys and gals it's going off topic......
Going back to the topic
With regards to the rom, is there any news on the bluetooth stack?
I just managed to get my bluetooth watch working with MS BT Stack thanks to Moneytoo app and if the rom does include Widcomm instead I will have to search for a solution if any,
Thanks a lot to the team for all effort and goog work
regards

Why only HTC ?

Greetings !
After evaluating my options, I decided to go with HTC FUZE a week ago. So far I find that the phone is one of the most feature rich phones in the market.
However, slide out keyboard and small screens are two big cons for me.
I was wondering why there is such a big "cooked ROM" community only for HTC and not for other Win Mobiles, like Samsung or Moto ?
One tends to think the HTC company could be sponsering sites such as this as a marketting tool . Am I crazy to think in those terms ?
why only windows mobile phone why not all phones?
a private website where one have to pay for space
and pay for how much presure is being put on by many users
limitations have to be considered
guess one reason why htc is picked is because much tools and such can be reused
and roms and how they are flashed don't differ as much as other phones which also
use wm but use a whole different way to flash and how the whole memorymap of the rom is made
Maybe im wrong, but if you check the name of the site
XDA-Developers
then you may work out the reason.
Back in the day when everyone was happy to do stuff for free this site accomodated the XDA brand of PDA phones, these were obviously O2 branded devices, at the time O2 only used HTC devices for its XDA line
Hence the reason for a massive HTC based community.
There are other devices that are supported on here to a degree but I am curious as to what defines a device thats is supported, because generally speaking you are right, they are HTC based devices.
This will be moved to the General section.
Oh no... this question again and again...
Please READ and SEARCH, and you´ll find why THIS SITE IS HTC DEVICES ONLY
As easy as READ the main page
orb3000 said:
Oh no... this question again and again...
Please READ and SEARCH, and you´ll find why THIS SITE IS HTC DEVICES ONLY
As easy as READ the main page
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remember orb hes asking a question for uriosity he not doing the usual and saying i want a forum for x phone
and ive seen one guy demend to know why the wont do htc
at least this guy is asking nicely and in a nice tone
jayjay8585 said:
remember orb hes asking a question for uriosity he not doing the usual and saying i want a forum for x phone
and ive seen one guy demend to know why the wont do htc
at least this guy is asking nicely and in a nice tone
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Youre right mate good point here,
here check it out funny opening and answer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=473375
Well, as rightly pointed out above, I am curious above all.
I am curious as to why significant amount of effort is directed at HTC phones only..
Honestly, cooked roms and this site are only two reasons that is keeping me from returning the phone and getting a Samsung.
orb3000 said:
Oh no... this question again and again...
Please READ and SEARCH, and you´ll find why THIS SITE IS HTC DEVICES ONLY
As easy as READ the main page
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calmate.
lol.
I am curious however, at what point did "XDA" - Developers decide not to support all the WM XDA devices, im not faning any flames or anything im just intrested in knowing when this decision was made, after all the site does suggest it was originally for XDA branded devices otherwise it might have been HTC-Developers so at some point during its growth the decision was made not to support other devices.
More intrestingly since the XDA Zest was only released a few months ago it would have been at a time when as far as i'm aware all XDA devices were HTC anyway so the name justification would have standed....
Just curious...
The HTC gives money to host this, and stuff to do roms, just so HTC had a huge advantage over Samsung or others. My little conspiracy theory.
@ Dazza9075: from the beginning
@sala91: didn't the docter prescribed Xanax to you? Please take your medicine.
Another "why no other phone" thread...
For answers: use the search button, or read the first line of text on the frontpage.

Iphone-developers.com?

I was just wondering...and have wondered loud with this thread.
I have been a member of this forum for couple of years now and have gained immensely from the good guys who are ready to develop stuff. But I now have 2 iphones. 3g and 3gs which is my main phone now, (although still have WM Athena ). And me too, its becoming increasingly the case that I find myself looking elswhere for support, just feel strange as I've always ever come to xda-developers to get what-the-manufacturers-left-out. also I just read a post from Confucious on Athena forum saying that he has not come here for a while because he's busy with iphone forums.
I just was going to suggest an iphone-developers.com to xda-developers, before I do that, I decided to type it in the browser, guess what happened? it led back to xda-developers.com, so is something cooking, are we to expect a separate part of this site for iphone soon?
Waiting!!!!!!
feyisetan said:
I was just wondering...and have wondered loud with this thread.
I have been a member of this forum for couple of years now and have gained immensely from the good guys who are ready to develop stuff. But I now have 2 iphones. 3g and 3gs which is my main phone now, (although still have WM Athena ). And me too, its becoming increasingly the case that I find myself looking elswhere for support, just feel strange as I've always ever come to xda-developers to get what-the-manufacturers-left-out. also I just read a post from Confucious on Athena forum saying that he has not come here for a while because he's busy with iphone forums.
I just was going to suggest an iphone-developers.com to xda-developers, before I do that, I decided to type it in the browser, guess what happened? it led back to xda-developers.com, so is something cooking, are we to expect a separate part of this site for iphone soon?
Waiting!!!!!!
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Go to the apple forums.
Try modmyi.com.
It is an excellent support site for tweaks, software support, application requests, and technical tips sharing.
What he mean is that if You typ in browser www.iphone-developers.com it actually opens www.xda-developers.com
They'll need to buy an HTC to access the site.
:screaming::screaming::screaming::screaming:
I can t believe what I´m reading!!!
Yeah I cringe at the thought, I don't like iPhone mixing with anything similar to (HTC) Windows Mobile's GSM pride & joy...
Let them hang with the jailbreakers...
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Spiaatie said:
What he mean is that if You typ in browser www.iphone-developers.com it actually opens www.xda-developers.com
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Yes, I meant when you type in www.iphone-developers.com you find yourself at xda-developers.com, if there is no intention to support iphone, why register the domain for it? that's why I think something might be cooking.
And so that I am not misunderstood, I still love my WM devices...used about 10 of them in the past 7 years. But boy! did iphone spring a surprise? the ease of use, the interface, the apps...the apps!
But I still love my WM devices.
Interesting. Perhaps the work of a typical iPhone hater and WM/HTC fanatic?
A sign of the Apocalypse?
awesome!
now all we need is
www.everythingelse-developers.com
Try WHOIS the domain(s) and check the reg. date also..
the-equinoxe said:
Try WHOIS the domain(s) and check the reg. date also..
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same owners as XDA
http://whois.domaintools.com/iphone-developers.com
http://whois.domaintools.com/xda-developers.com
same server even
http://www.domaintools.com/reverse-ip/?hostname=iphone-developers.com
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same owners as XDA
[URL]http://whois.domaintools.com/iphone-developers.com[/URL]
[URL]http://whois.domaintools.com/xda-developers.com[/URL]
same server even
[URL]http://www.domaintools.com/reverse-ip/?hostname=iphone-developers.com[/URL]
I would also like to see forums for non HTC WM devices.
Stupid that they don't exist already!
There are plenty forums for non HTC devices, here one example:
winmodevs
On this site, as stated countless times before, there won´t be any special section for non HTC devices!, that´s the Admin position wich I support.
orb3000 said:
There are plenty forums for non HTC devices, here one example:
winmodevs
On this site, as stated countless times before, there won´t be any special section for non HTC devices!, that´s the Admin position wich I support.
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seems to be evidence that this may not always be the case.
having more sections won't hurt anybody. just pretend they don't exist.
crazy talk said:
seems to be evidence that this may not always be the case.
having more sections won't hurt anybody. just pretend they don't exist.
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More sections = more visitors = more site traffic = more load on currently overtaxed servers.

Qwerty Keyboard phone options

I have owned the HTC 8525 and now own the HTC Tilt 2 and I want to upgrade to another phone with a qwerty keyboard. I was wondering what options are out and/or coming out? I'm looking to get an android or something with WP7 and at&t is my carrier. Any input on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Bezzletine said:
I have owned the HTC 8525 and now own the HTC Tilt 2 and I want to upgrade to another phone with a qwerty keyboard. I was wondering what options are out and/or coming out? I'm looking to get an android or something with WP7 and at&t is my carrier. Any input on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Eh? Lern2internet.
Or is google and Engadget too hard for you?
But while I'm at it let me spoonfeed you:
HTC G2
Motorola Droid 1/2
HTC Vision
HTC Desire Z
Google for more...srsly
No need to be a ****. I did use google but seeing as how this site is FULL of people who live and breathe mobile devices I figured that I would find more information here even after checking Google, Engadget, Gizmodo, GadgetU, GSMarena etc... If you come across any of my other threads and you feel the need to be a complete asshole just feel free to click the back button and pretend you never saw my thread. Thanks for the little help you provided anyway though. Have a good day lol
o'll suggest an HTC hd2 or desire..
they are great phones..
Bezzletine said:
No need to be a ****.
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Nah, there is.
I did use google
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You did it wrong, probably.
you feel the need to be a complete asshole just feel free to click the back button and pretend you never saw my thread. Thanks for the little help you provided anyway though. Have a good day lol
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Ow, now my help is little, cause I called you out? LOL
It was such a simple and easily googlable question that deserved a much worse answer (or just ignoring) then mine + it's so bloody broad that at least 20 phones or more would fit it.
I answered cause I'm looking for a possible TP2 replacement and after I saw your question I actually googled it and came up with this in 5 min. So it's not that hard.
sam.mark said:
o'll suggest an HTC hd2 or desire..
they are great phones..
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Um, which part of qwerty did you overlook? Also why HD2 when you got Android HD2: Evo 4g?
Bezzletine said:
No need to be a ****.
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Agreed. Not the most helpfull answer Kosmarnik.
As it goes, you might want to look up the Samsung S Pro. The standard S model has reports of serious GPS issues however, the S Pro has been delayed so maybe thats to fix these issues?
I like the Desire Z but it´s only Android
Hope HTC launches a hardware keyboard device with WM so I´ll be able to run both OS in one device!!
Monty Burns said:
Agreed. Not the most helpfull answer Kosmarnik.
As it goes, you might want to look up the Samsung S Pro. The standard S model has reports of serious GPS issues however, the S Pro has been delayed so maybe thats to fix these issues?
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I've never heard of the S Pro but I think I kinda like it. I think i'm going to look more into that phone. Thanks
orb3000 said:
I like the Desire Z but it´s only Android
Hope HTC launches a hardware keyboard device with WM so I´ll be able to run both OS in one device!!
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That is EXACTLY why I want another WM phone lol.
orb3000 said:
Hope HTC launches a hardware keyboard device with WM so I´ll be able to run both OS in one device!!
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I doubt that. Probably HTC is finished with WM.
kosmarnik said:
Also why HD2 when you got Android HD2: Evo 4g?
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Two things:
1.) Why get a EVO? They're overhyped. The HD2 has better RAM (Evo: 512MB HD2: 548 MB) and runs WM, plus, you can boot Android off of it and that in my opinion makes it better because you can have two fully functional OS's. The only thing Evo has over the HD2 is the 4G that not everyone can get in their area, and an 8MP camera.
2.) Really, if you have a problem with the person's question shut the hell up and get off his thread. XDA is supposed to welcome people and treat each one with respect. You make people feel unwelcomed. Either help the person out without criticism, or get a life and stop hassling people for their questions. Dickhead.
kosmarnik is probably the worst poster on this entire website. Seriously, there are autistic children with better communication skills than him.
darth_vato said:
kosmarnik is probably the worst poster on this entire website. Seriously, there are autistic children with better communication skills than him.
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Hahaha! You hit the nail on the head with that one! He makes me feel ashamed to have the same phone as him.
matejdro said:
I doubt that. Probably HTC is finished with WM.
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Not probably but surely.
twitch153 said:
Two things:
1.) Why get a EVO? They're overhyped. The HD2 has better RAM (Evo: 512MB HD2: 548 MB) and runs WM, plus, you can boot Android off of it and that in my opinion makes it better because you can have two fully functional OS's. The only thing Evo has over the HD2 is the 4G that not everyone can get in their area, and an 8MP camera.
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Sure sure, but WinMo is a dead platform while Evo is a native Android device. If you can't get Evo, well, go for HD2, but otherwise you're just setting your self up for unneeded work/compatibility issues...
Also for most people just flashing a new rom is too hard, so running a dual-boot setup is out of the question.
2.) Really, if you have a problem with the person's question shut the hell up and get off his thread.
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Nah, this thread is of interest to me, as mentioned before.
XDA is supposed to welcome people and treat each one with respect. You make people feel unwelcomed. Either help the person out without criticism, or get a life and stop hassling people for their questions. Dickhead.
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I did not insult anyone, I merely suggested that he get's on with the times and learns to Google/Bing/Search forum, if in a tad jesting manner, but insult him I did not. Plus he called for any input on the topic
You on the other hand, rushed in with your whitekinghting and insults. Pfft. I fart in your general direction.
Searching before posting is just common sense.
Now, can we continue with the mourning of Rhodium and lamenting the lack of a decent successor?
And thanks to using the SEARCH BUTTON I found out that Desire Z/G2/Merge are the same phone: HTC Vision with different amounts of ROM! That clears up a lot, but leaves me sad.
Vision seems to use the Rhodium keyboard form, but only 4 rows??? Why do that? And no tilt? 800MHz?
Also, first reports say that the slide hinge is broken:
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Ugh. Why HTC? Why?
Update: way to go darth_vato, more internet whiteknights to rescue the thread with their contributions! Now with free lame insults!
If you're looking for a hardware keyboard I'd recommend the HTC Desire Z because at 800mhz it's benchmarks are very near the 1ghz ones in HTC Desire/Google Nexus One. And it looks quite good with Sense UI.
Sent from my HTC
I don´t think so...
matejdro said:
I doubt that. Probably HTC is finished with WM.
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Sorry, didn't realise you were also listing WP7. In that case, check out the Dell Lightining. In all honesty, as long WP7 holds up and does what I need (FULL Exchange) then this will probably be my next phone.
Only one serious concern, I understand that it might not work with SD cards at first release. I currently have a 32gb card full of tv progs, music and work data... this would be a deal killer for me Guess will find out for sure on Monday!

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