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Want to help a friend install Touch Flo cube but do not want to reflash rom

Hi guys,
I am looking to add the touch flo cube on to my friend HTC TyTn II for him.
I understand that his one came unlocked and he likes his current firmwire that came with it with his operator settings.
Therefore, i am wondering if it is possible to add the Touch Flo gesture and cube without having to do hardspl or any other steps require to add software to the phone.
Is it possible just to add the 2 cab's for these two peices of software and install them on to the phone via the memory card?
Advice would be appriciated massively as i really do not want to mess his phone up.
Thanks in advance
Jason

You have 200+ posts, 6 phones, been around for 9 months and you're still asking questions that we'd expect from a 10 post n00b?
Go search for your answer... Someone should remove your senior status
Oh, while you're at it, listen to http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting... I've done some additional research only to discover that you have 29 selfishly written threads begging for answers when I'm sure you could have just asked on an existing thread or searched for...

hi there, thats for your reply.
i dont have 6 phones, i have 1. I'm trying to help my friends which are new to the scene as well.
i do ask question, and through your research, i answer questions that you may consider "noobish" for people who just joined as well.
not everyone has strong computer literacy you. I appricate your help, but if your just going to flame someone next time, i would rather you turn a blind eye to my questions.
thanks again for your help.
jason
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what i want wondering is if it is possible to add "TFloCube" and "FTouchFlo Configurator" on to the TyTnII via .cab and if there is a need to use hardspl.
this is what i would like to add
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i understand that an option is to flash a new rom, but since his current ROM has operator features on it, its rather difficult to go down that path.
therefore, are there .cab's to add TFloCube?

jasonchiu said:
through your research, i answer questions that you may consider "noobish" for people who just joined as well.
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The only helpful reply you've had in the last 50 posts is when you told a guy to go search and read the wiki. It's advice you should follow yourself.
jasonchiu said:
I appricate your help, but if your just going to flame someone next time, i would rather you turn a blind eye to my questions.
thanks again for your help.
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You are in serious need of flaming as you've got to be the biggest repeat offender I've ever seen on this forum.
Your only saving grace is that you seem to have good manners by always saying your 'please' and 'thank you'...

_Alex_ said:
The only helpful reply you've had in the last 50 posts is when you told a guy to go search and read the wiki. It's advice you should follow yourself.
You are in serious need of flaming as you've got to be the biggest repeat offender I've ever seen on this forum.
Your only saving grace is that you seem to have good manners by always saying your 'please' and 'thank you'...
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i have been helping people when they PM me as well. I have also been email people with .cab's.
what is your problem? i obviously need help thats why i post. I still havent found the .cab's which i need. arent forums a place you go to, to find help? As i said, not every one has strong computer literacy like you, why dont you give people a break?
i'll take it that your having a bad day mate. why not we just stop it here before it get immature.
if someone could people tell me what i want to do is possible ( add touch flo cube via .cab's without the need of flashing a new rom) i would appriciate it very much.
thanks, jason

Use this, works fine on my Kaiser.
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/ph...-cube-should-work-any-wm6-device-cabfile.html

JamesAub said:
Use this, works fine on my Kaiser.
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/ph...-cube-should-work-any-wm6-device-cabfile.html
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thanks James!
Alex, i did not know this exsisted, i was thinking that i needed cabs exacted from rom's that are currently avalible and it is the synergy in a forum where better applications can be found though knowledge of others.

jasonchiu said:
thanks James!
Alex, i did not know this exsisted, i was thinking that i needed cabs exacted from rom's that are currently avalible and it is the synergy in a forum where better applications can be found though knowledge of others.
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So this means you'll update the wiki with the link and the images you've posted, so you can continue contributing to benefit everyone?

no i wont alex. only someone will good knowledge should update the wiki. if someone asked me or posted a thread about this as well. i would simply give them the URL james gave me.

JamesAub said:
Use this, works fine on my Kaiser.
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/ph...-cube-should-work-any-wm6-device-cabfile.html
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It works so good! Love it..
Just one thing, this touchflo cube is verry sensitive! More than the normal touch cube.
check my movie
cube movie
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=cTjZaSrzD_A

lol almost flashed my phone (htc herald)

someone please post the cube.cab. the download link from 4winmobile is deat. it say :Linkid 119 does not exist
thanks

wildcard13 said:
someone please post the cube.cab. the download link from 4winmobile is deat. it say :Linkid 119 does not exist
thanks
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check out the last post in that thread, it gets you to another, updated thread.

Helped Me!
Thanks for the question and answer.
Had lost interest, but will try again!!!
No question to insignificant!

thoughtspeak said:
I swear down,
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Feel better??

Mikey1022 said:
Feel better??
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hardy har har bruv. Fact of the matter this place is full of idiots that are alot more rude and obnoxious because they are behind a screen. If they spoke to everyone offline like they do on, they would be walking around with black eyes.
Ive never understood why a grown adult would speak to someone online without the same manners and respect they would offline.
We all encounter people less techincial than us. Some many even be actually stupid. Thats no reason to talk down to them like they are a piece of dirt.
regardless of the fact they may ask annoying questions, you should feel honored someone wants to try your creation on their device. It should be very satisfying to know someone is getting real benefit from something you did, and trusted you enough to risk breaking their expensive gadget.
In any case, meh. Im slowly learning what I need to learn to flash my device, without asking many questions. I may even cook my own rom eventually. I respect the fact that there are many gueniwine and lovely people on this forum who get annoyed but that doesnt hide the fact that some are just total dicks.
My motto is never say anything to someone online that you wouldn't be brave enough to say to their face.

thoughtspeak said:
hardy har har bruv. Fact of the matter this place is full of idiots that are alot more rude and obnoxious because they are behind a screen. If they spoke to everyone offline like they do on, they would be walking around with black eyes.
My motto is never say anything to someone online that you wouldn't be brave enough to say to their face.
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Same as my motto, but you still see what I've been saying. Just do a search of my posts.
I think someone should ban you and kick you out. If you're not happy with how XDA is being, just get out of here.
Why you need to learn more is here (since you're not reading my signature links)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=44 said:
By Kyphur,
I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.
As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community.
Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to customize your device but rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself.
When I first came here with a Blue Angel it was a different environment. PDA Phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity (I paid over $400 for my BA). A $400 phone 4 years ago was expensive, today the Tilt is $300 after rebates but with inflation & the rise in the cost of other devices and the fact that there are other sources out there giving them away for $150 our neat bit of kit has become popular with mainstream users.
Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.
The NooB backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination.
As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.
Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position.
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thoughtspeak said:
hardy har har bruv. Fact of the matter this place is full of idiots that are alot more rude and obnoxious because they are behind a screen. If they spoke to everyone offline like they do on, they would be walking around with black eyes.
Ive never understood why a grown adult would speak to someone online without the same manners and respect they would offline.
We all encounter people less techincial than us. Some many even be actually stupid. Thats no reason to talk down to them like they are a piece of dirt.
regardless of the fact they may ask annoying questions, you should feel honored someone wants to try your creation on their device. It should be very satisfying to know someone is getting real benefit from something you did, and trusted you enough to risk breaking their expensive gadget.
In any case, meh. Im slowly learning what I need to learn to flash my device, without asking many questions. I may even cook my own rom eventually. I respect the fact that there are many gueniwine and lovely people on this forum who get annoyed but that doesnt hide the fact that some are just total dicks.
My motto is never say anything to someone online that you wouldn't be brave enough to say to their face.
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Well it happened 2 years ago, so it's all in the past .
Ta
Dave

¿? Fastest ROM for Kaiser (TYTN II with 3.5G and Videocall)

First of all, thank to all developers and rom coockers that are in the forum, and to the forum itself, you people are one of the best, most serious, controlled, "in topic", smart, organized, easy to read and understand forum all over the net.
I was in the forum for a time now, but i usually dont post, cause i think i don't have any useful to say, and then this is not something useful, it's a question
That question:
I have not yet modify the rom from my kaiser, i have the Vodafone 1615 original spanish rom.
I was reading some about roms since the topic about ati drivers was open (that's not about ATI drivers!!! ) and even yet i don't have any idea about what is the best and fastest ROM for the Kaiser, i think it is one of the roms from Dutty, but there is no benchmark in some roms, then i cannot know what is the best rom.
Also i have another question, it's a bit noob, but that question have a reason to be, i use my kaiser mainly for work, and i cannot let my kaiser to be bricked because there is so much is in game, so, thats the question:
There is any risk installing the HardSPL?
and then:
There is any risk upgrading the ROM when i intalled the HardSPL?
I'm not a noob in surfing the forum, and i used the Search function, and googled, but i don't have these points clear enough for daring to install a new ROM.
Thanks to all.
Juan Gea.

Juang3D, your best bet is to read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
Specifically: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Should answer all your questions.
As to which rom is fastest, that all depends... folks experience different things depending on what they install. My suggestion is to try a bunch of different varieties and eventually you'll settle on the one you want.

juang3d, this is nothing personally aimed at you, and if i offend you i truly am deeply sorry, you asked nicely and explained why you asked but my analogy just came to me as i was reading your post and here's what i have to say:
roms are like women. no matter what everyone is going to say that a one woman is better than other women. you can't be told which woman is right for you, you have to date a few and find her, sometimes the first one you find is great but you should still go out there and date a few others just to be sure, you can always go back to your first choice because roms are better than women; even if someone else has your rom you can have it too and you won't get AIDS. but seriously like ChaOConnor said you need to try a few and find your perfect match.

tubaking182 said:
roms are like women. no matter what everyone is going to say that a one woman is better than other women. you can't be told which woman is right for you, you have to date a few and find her, sometimes the first one you find is great but you should still go out there and date a few others just to be sure, you can always go back to your first choice because roms are better than women; even if someone else has your rom you can have it too and you won't get AIDS. but seriously like ChaOConnor said you need to try a few and find your perfect match.
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I totally agree with, and second that analogy. Well done, tubaking182

moonray said:
I totally agree with, and second that analogy. Well done, tubaking182
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thank you very much moonray

I'll actually give a suggestion. Qmobile 1.2. Fastest rom i have tried. Not 6.1 though.

tubaking182 said:
juang3d, this is nothing personally aimed at you, and if i offend you i truly am deeply sorry, you asked nicely and explained why you asked but my analogy just came to me as i was reading your post and here's what i have to say:
roms are like women. no matter what everyone is going to say that a one woman is better than other women. you can't be told which woman is right for you, you have to date a few and find her, sometimes the first one you find is great but you should still go out there and date a few others just to be sure, you can always go back to your first choice because roms are better than women; even if someone else has your rom you can have it too and you won't get AIDS. but seriously like ChaOConnor said you need to try a few and find your perfect match.
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WOW.
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BEST. ANALOGY. EVER.

Thanks to all for your answer.
I saw the links that you gave me ChaOConnor, but i think i'll see again, maybe i did not read carefully, if i'm not comfortable with what i find, i'll ask again, i hope you understand, as i said, Kaiser is VERY important for my work and i must be sure, but thanks for your suggestions, and as i said now, maybe i lost something (it's more than possible hehe) i'll read it again carefully.
For you tubaking182...i TOTALLY agree hehe, i know what a rom is, my question is not about the quality of the soft installed with the rom, is more with the speed of win mobo, in video and in the interface it self, cause, and correct me if i'm wrong, different roms gave differents performances, and i need speed in working, and if i can have speed also in video (even with the eternal problem of "drivers/acceleration") then, better
But as i say...i totally agree with you, as some people say in the forum: +1
hehe
juiceppc i'll see that rom in the same moment that i'm sure to install hard spl and a new rom, i don't care if it's 6.1, if 6.0 is better in speed, then, i prefer 6.0 over 6.1.
Thanks to all for your answers

I know that my post will not add nothing to find the best peformance ROM. I am in the exact same situation as Juang3d. Plus my kaiser OS is in Danish and I need urgently instal a English OS, I need my kaiser to work, and need it to be fast and reliable. I am already 1 week shearching and didnt understud yet wich is the ROM with the best performances. (speed, office,pdf, skype,audio, flash, GPS)
Juan if you find out or create a solid opinion about wich ROM please post. I will do the same.
Or if someone more expert and with empiric experience in this ROM performances questions please enlight hus!!!

tubaking182 said:
even if someone else has your rom you can have it too and you won't get AIDS.
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All i can say to that is LOL.

LOL
that's the best one on the forums )

Juang3d said:
my question is not about the quality of the soft installed with the rom, is more with the speed of win mobo, in video and in the interface it self, cause, and correct me if i'm wrong, different roms gave differents performances, and i need speed in working, and if i can have speed also in video (even with the eternal problem of "drivers/acceleration") then, better
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You'll find each ROM will depend on what you choose to install. Each ROM will interact differently with various radios. It's a bit of trial and error, really. The good thing is, you can flash a new ROM every day if you like. A lot of people like Dutty's ROMs. They are not for me. I love Leo's ROMs. They are not for everyone.
Look at screen shots, flash it (after carefully reading how to do so properly), and see if you like it. If not, try another.

If you have tried all the ROms in this forum
time to roll back to the original HTC Kaiser ship rom lolz... that works the best for me.

TubaKing's analogy rocks!
For the OP- After trying a lot of Roms I found that the ROMeOS (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406346) have been the best for me. They are stable, fast, and error free. I wanted a Lite Rom and for me ROMeOS is the best fit. As stated earlier, it all depends on what you like. That's why there are skinny girls, fat girls, different skin tones, etc. We all like a different kind of girl, keeping with the TubaKing analogy. And we all want different things from our Rom.
As far as messing with your work phone. I would be very cautious about that. If it is not your property I would not get started with all of this modding on my bosses phone. Maybe buy your own and mess with it. Good luck.

atm im using sleuth's. its okay, but im looking for the one that lags least when you slide the keyboard

trano said:
atm im using sleuth's. its okay, but im looking for the one that lags least when you slide the keyboard
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Try Romeos. Its the best, fastest & most Stable; yet.

BLAND Theme MANILA 2D ROMS?

First I like to say bravo to the many chefs especially like hyperdragon manila 2d right now. I do find myself wondering why the hell the many themes/ skins for M2D are not being utilized to add a distinct look to the various chefs roms? I know these can be customized by each user but I look at the various latest and greatest uploads and they all look the exact same except for apps etc...
Just curious and would love to see these roms have a more distinct look because I know it has allot to do with the rate at which they are downloaded/ used.
Just my .02, maybe its due to stability issues or something like that please correct me if it is and Ill shut up What can I say, Im just curious I guess.

swtaltima said:
I know these can be customized by each user but I look at the various latest and greatest uploads and they all look the exact same except for apps etc...
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There's your answer right there.

edgie168 said:
There's your answer right there.
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Well said, short, sweet, and to the point. All we need is one more thing for people to litter the threads with their opinions...

scotchua said:
Well said, short, sweet, and to the point. All we need is one more thing for people to litter the threads with their opinions...
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Come on guys, not litter and dont need the sarcasm or judging thank you very much. I have started maybe a few threads so seriously don't be so quick to judge, this has become as big of a problem as the redundant newb posts.
Anyway... to those who have a good response please post or keep it to yourself.

swtaltima said:
Come on guys, not litter and dont need the sarcasm or judging thank you very much. I have started maybe a few threads so seriously don't be so quick to judge, this has become as big of a problem as the redundant newb posts.
Anyway... to those who have a good response please post or keep it to yourself.
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i think in the end u r right man the user can customize it themselves... i mean i really dont see y a cook would put a theme from over in dev and hacking when the user can do this them self... is it not enuff the chef is cooking the rom now u want him to take time to go pick a theme he thinks everyone may like(when they gonna change anyway)... not to be smart but this is kind of ridiculous man and definately not worthy of a new thread in kaiser rom dev maybe general but not here... on the up maybe u should do a poll to find out what theme everyone like then ask one of the chefs to break down the manilla package and cook in the theme with it and then cross ur fingers and hope noone has any issues... i mean what did u expect with this thread man people to start saying yea i like this theme ooh i like that theme and so on sounds like they got just the thread for this already to me...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425974

swtaltima said:
Come on guys, not litter and dont need the sarcasm or judging thank you very much. I have started maybe a few threads so seriously don't be so quick to judge, this has become as big of a problem as the redundant newb posts.
Anyway... to those who have a good response please post or keep it to yourself.
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First off, what gives you the right to judge the quality if my post? I expressed my opinion of what i think it would lead to. I personally think your posts is kind of pointless, but i didn't reprimand you for what i think was a wasted post. I just expressed an opinion of where it would lead us. Have you read many threads? This is what i see in most of them:
Please remove MSVC
Please cook MSVC
I prefer Cyberon
I prefer MSVC
You should put more games in
You should take games out and let the user pick
Please cook in Netcf so beejive will work
Please take netcf out, cause users can install it themselves
I like v5 camera, you should use that
I live v6 camera
i want video dialer
i want the opal dialer
How can i change the custom icons
You should use custom icons
i don't like custom icons, can't we just have the default
I like manila2D
I think manila2D sucks, please some lite roms
I don't like lite roms, why doesn't anyone make full roms?
I think i've made my point. If you create a custom theme, with custom clocks we'll have pages filled with:
I don't like this clock, you should use this clock
Why don't you just use the standard skin
I want a red skin
i want a blue skin
i think this skin isn't very good, i'm gonna use my own
Just one more thing for people to clutter the threads with. That was my point. Sorry if MY opinion wasn't valuable enough for your thread.
Here's 270 pages of skins:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425974
If people can't figure out how to install them, then they shouldn't be customizing their phones, IMO.

I guess some people only want to hear opinions when it suits their own opinion.
*shrug*

To all of your responses, I must apologize if I seemed rude last night but I had a rough day and well... I was working through a bottle of vodka
Anyway, all good points you have. I guess I should have said that I miss the unique look to the various roms like before. Its nothing against the chefs, without them I probabley would have been bored with my device long ago, I was merely pointing out that there used to be a distinct difference between each and every rom.
I do understand what you guys are saying though. Just wanted to start my day right by clearing this up.

scotchua said:
First off, what gives you the right to judge the quality if my post? I expressed my opinion of what i think it would lead to. I personally think your posts is kind of pointless, but i didn't reprimand you for what i think was a wasted post. I just expressed an opinion of where it would lead us. Have you read many threads? This is what i see in most of them:
Please remove MSVC
Please cook MSVC
I prefer Cyberon
I prefer MSVC
You should put more games in
You should take games out and let the user pick
Please cook in Netcf so beejive will work
Please take netcf out, cause users can install it themselves
I like v5 camera, you should use that
I live v6 camera
i want video dialer
i want the opal dialer
How can i change the custom icons
You should use custom icons
i don't like custom icons, can't we just have the default
I like manila2D
I think manila2D sucks, please some lite roms
I don't like lite roms, why doesn't anyone make full roms?
I think i've made my point. If you create a custom theme, with custom clocks we'll have pages filled with:
I don't like this clock, you should use this clock
Why don't you just use the standard skin
I want a red skin
i want a blue skin
i think this skin isn't very good, i'm gonna use my own
Just one more thing for people to clutter the threads with. That was my point. Sorry if MY opinion wasn't valuable enough for your thread.
Here's 270 pages of skins:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425974
If people can't figure out how to install them, then they shouldn't be customizing their phones, IMO.
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i dont blame you that every one of your posts are cranky tirades..the entire usa has discovered that alaska is complete morons.. they voted ted stevens and sarah palin in -- how embarrassed you must be..
almost as much as when i got abroad and have to admit that i am from a country that voted GW in twice.
it will all be over soon..

swtaltima said:
To all of your responses, I must apologize if I seemed rude last night but I had a rough day and well... I was working through a bottle of vodka
Anyway, all good points you have. I guess I should have said that I miss the unique look to the various roms like before. Its nothing against the chefs, without them I probabley would have been bored with my device long ago, I was merely pointing out that there used to be a distinct difference between each and every rom.
I do understand what you guys are saying though. Just wanted to start my day right by clearing this up.
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Everyone has bad days, so no hard feelings. I started to feel the way you do awhile ago. Because my device is heavily customized, by the time i get it set up the way i like it, there ends up being very little difference between roms. Usually i flash simply to get the newest piece of software that someone had located. My conclusion was that i simply just need to buy a new phone i hear the touch pro is coming out soon...should tide me over for awhile.

Wow, Where the heck did I end up? A Kindergarten Play Ground?
Geez people quit getting all offended by other peoples comments.
You ask for opinions you get them. That's why I don't like "best of" type threads.
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To the OP: Manilla is new, all our chefs these days will implement the most basic design to get it to work than tweak it. Also sometimes Chefs will use someone else s work to change the "look" (i.e. Home Customizer)
Since this Thread has degraded into a useless thread it is now closed.

My 850Mhz OMNIA-2 long review + benchmarks

I had written a very long review on OMNIA-2 with multiple performance benchmarks at below link, in Traditional Chinese.
Enjoy!
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/?prod_id=3387&tid=4190515&page=1&list_page=1&rt=120027
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I've used TCPMP re-captured my OMNIA-2 CPU speed screenshot it now score,
850 Mhz

Congrats for your benchmarks.
Not of much interest here as we dedicate to HTC devices only

That's great fast benchmarks Hopefully HTC will finally take notice

Can you confirm lang change option like most nokia, se, lg etc etc phones ?

orb3000 said:
Congrats for your benchmarks.
Not of much interest here as we dedicate to HTC devices only
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I can see lots of HTC threads here...
but since when xda-developers forum changed to HTC-developers.com?
And if it does then I'll stop visiting this forum anymore!

borce_razor said:
Can you confirm lang change option like most nokia, se, lg etc etc phones ?
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Are you or at least have you ever used a PPC/WM PDA PHONE?

NewForce said:
I can see lots of HTC threads here...
but since when xda-developers forum changed to HTC-developers.com?
And if it does then I'll stop visiting this forum anymore!
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Let me copy and paste an extract from the front page of this great site:
"Welcome to XDA-Developers.com
This site is mostly about certain PDA-phones, made by a firm called HTC in Taiwan. They called them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. They are sold through mobile operators that give them their own names. We got our first such phone as 'XDA', hence the name of this site.
Since we developed software for these phones, we needed very specific technical information. When we started xda-developers, neither Microsoft, nor HTC nor the mobile operators seemed eager or even willing to give it to us. So we 'reverse-engineered' the devices, found a lot of information, and shared it with the world. But as our site grew we realised that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from a lack of support. They started using the xda-developers forum to communicate and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developer forum."
This is an HTC devices only forum, that is the position of the owners which I support.
Hope you still be visiting us here, if not would be a shame...

orb3000 said:
"Welcome to XDA-Developers.com
This site is mostly about certain PDA-phones, made by a firm called HTC in Taiwan. They called them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. They are sold through mobile operators that give them their own names. We got our first such phone as 'XDA', hence the name of this site.
Since we developed software for these phones, we needed very specific technical information. When we started xda-developers, neither Microsoft, nor HTC nor the mobile operators seemed eager or even willing to give it to us. So we 'reverse-engineered' the devices, found a lot of information, and shared it with the world. But as our site grew we realised that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from a lack of support. They started using the xda-developers forum to communicate and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developer forum."
This is an HTC devices only forum, that is the position of the owners which I support.
Hope you still be visiting us here, if not would be a shame...
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That statement was made ancient time ago, and when the old timer doesn't have much PDA phone choice.
So as this site grew that statement is strongly not appropriate anymore. Do you agree?
Worst thing, O2 aka maker of the original XDA already close-down for good.
Does this mean XDA-developers.com need to close-down as well? (I hope not)
If it does, it'll be really shame as lots of ppl love this site, including me.
Byw,grabbing hard on HTC foots does not earn anyone a single dim or any mercy at all.
XDA foot? Door closed long ago. Wake-up!

That will be a decision of the owners, which I think it won´t change...
p.s. As far as I know O2 has been buyed by Telefonica (Spain) and still alive

okay
A, orb3000, we all know this is a htc forum, but we still like to be kept abreast of the latest technology, we want people like newforce to post this type of news as it gives us an idea of what hardware other manufacterers are putting in the devices
so when u write "Not of much interest here as we dedicate to HTC devices only", this just isnt true as we want this type of info to keep us clued in.
just because this is a htc devices forum doesnt mean we dont want people to contirbute news on other hardware.
B, NewForce, this is and always has been a htc device thread and its not changing anytime soon
but like i said above posts can be made on other hardware models unless its a post asking for a forum

NewForce said:
Are you or at least have you ever used a PPC/WM PDA PHONE?
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Very funny I have more than 10 htc devices + other wm phones. Read this http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=6634 and than answer to my question.

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Very funny I have more than 10 htc devices + other wm phones. Read this http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=6634 and than answer to my question.
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Alright... then does your 10 htc devices do Nokia stuff?
Think you should already answer your own question.
Finally, just to be more polite, Singapore OMNIA-2 just like your 10 htc.
Phew... almost missed the link you'd posted, think the multi-lang option only available in Europe spec/rom OMNIA-2.

-PiLoT- said:
okay
A, orb3000, we all know this is a htc forum, but we still like to be kept abreast of the latest technology, we want people like newforce to post this type of news as it gives us an idea of what hardware other manufacterers are putting in the devices
so when u write "Not of much interest here as we dedicate to HTC devices only", this just isnt true as we want this type of info to keep us clued in.
just because this is a htc devices forum doesnt mean we dont want people to contirbute news on other hardware.
B, NewForce, this is and always has been a htc device thread and its not changing anytime soon
but like i said above posts can be made on other hardware models unless its a post asking for a forum
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Hi Hi PiLoT! I fully understand and appreciate your points. Thanks!
I've always know this is htc devices forum. But I'm happy it now turned to be more international, minus the old shallow.
However it be, it will not stop me from coming here even if xda-develops.com not going to change the name for this life time as I know it's different now.

NewForce said:
Alright... then does your 10 htc devices do Nokia stuff?
Think you should already answer your own question.
Finally, just to be more polite, Singapore OMNIA-2 just like your 10 htc.
Phew... almost missed the link you'd posted, think the multi-lang option only available in Europe spec/rom OMNIA-2.
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I think the same Anyway, just go to modaco, i'm sure that they will make something for omnia 2.

borce_razor said:
I think the same Anyway, just go to modaco, i'm sure that they will make something for omnia 2.
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Oh my... Oh my... my bad, sorry borce_razor, I had just found out the report is truth.
Samsung OMNIA-2 indeed something different on this aspect from all the PDA phone I had ever own and used.
Yes the web article from wmpoweruser reported correctly,
Samsung Omnia-2 indeed the first multi-language Windows Mobile phone.
Hooray! It's a good news for most WM phone users.
Although this language changing operation from English to others lang took about 10 minutes include a HARD RESET, but think it's worth while to invest in for users in Europe.

Hmm I heard that only need soft reset btw would you like to make dump from rom ?

-PiLoT- said:
okay
A, orb3000, we all know this is a htc forum, but we still like to be kept abreast of the latest technology, we want people like newforce to post this type of news as it gives us an idea of what hardware other manufacterers are putting in the devices
so when u write "Not of much interest here as we dedicate to HTC devices only", this just isnt true as we want this type of info to keep us clued in.
just because this is a htc devices forum doesnt mean we dont want people to contirbute news on other hardware.
B, NewForce, this is and always has been a htc device thread and its not changing anytime soon
but like i said above posts can be made on other hardware models unless its a post asking for a forum
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@pilot, that is my opinion and is very valid, as yours or any other, here we always try to make discussions and opinions respecting each other.
And not all know this is an HTC forum, so making that clear is good.
The WWW is large enough to visit other places and find what other manufacturers are puting on their devices, I think on this site as an HTC specialized forum and that´s because I´m here, if I need any other devices comparative I can go to off topic or visit any other site.
We all (or most of all) have experience enough to do that.
So my point of view does not change, I have some time here and I think this site is large enough with the devices are included here to add more...
Yes comparatives to others brands are ok but in it´s proper place.
Anyway not you or me will decide this, for that we have a great Mod team!

Thank you very much, NewForce. I am highly interested in another phone which has the exact same CPU (B7610), so this is very helpful to me.

The looks good but the memory is to little for wm phone Im I right the first omnia was slow becouse of the low memory

Serious question about gingerbread video drivers

Gtab gingerbread video drivers
Do these have to come from nvidia?
Speaking as a person who knows absolutely nothing about anything, it would seem to me that if all these marvelous roms can be developed by the guys who call themselves "Devs", then these same dudes should be able to code video drivers for gingerbread simply by porting over the existing froyo ones (which work marvelously by the way).
I'm sure you are not all lazy. You just haven't thought of this idea yet.
No need to thank me. Your welcome!

Well it was nice knowing you

crutzulee said:
Do these have to come from nvidia?
Speaking as a person who knows absolutely nothing about anything, it would seem to me that if all these marvelous roms can be developed by the guys who call themselves "Devs", then these same dudes should be able to code video drivers for gingerbread simply by porting over the existing froyo ones (which work marvelously by the way).
I'm sure you are not all lazy. You just haven't thought of this idea yet.
No need to thank me. Your welcome!
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Toss out some more wisdom.. I'm currently rounding up the easter bunny, a couple unicorns, and at least a dozen leprechauns and we're forming a development team. We're awaiting your next command.. EB will out for a few weeks due to some scheduling issues and a nasty NDA lawsuit/tieup with the lollipop guild. But we'll get it done!

spoke to madhatter and cheshire cat. they promised GB &HC nvidia drivers by midnight.

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This calls for a double facepalm

Wow. Just wow. Is it bad that I'm anxiously awaiting the flaming?

sixvoltsystem said:
This calls for a double facepalm
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Quoted for truth.
I've seen decompiled drivers. It haunts my dreams.

I guess these Gingy drivers are the new Honeycomb.

Closing this before it gets WAY out of hand.

Ok so my last thread got closed down...... but not before some entertaining responses.
But I understand that not everyone gets my sense of humour (take my wife....please)-sorry couldn't help myself..from now on this thread will be SERIOUS- devoid of humour.
The original question remains. Do we need Nvidia for these drivers?
Can the existing froyo ones be used to fashion gingerbread drivers or is that completely out of the question?
Someone alluded to an NDA? Does this make such an undertaking illegal? If so then the idea is dead in the water...enough said.
If it is do-able, then I, as one who is unskilled, would like to spearhead the collection to make an offering to the developer(s) who can make this happen.
So...thoughts?
SERIOUS DISCUSSION ONLY!

Can you please link to the other thread you were talking about? I'd like to read it.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038462
Here you go.....

@goodintentions
Oh, my old friend. Good to see you back and stirring the pot again.
So I think it is possible for people who aren't Nvidia to write these drivers. I'm an Ubuntu user and I know that I use open source drivers all the time, written by the community. However, I do think that much is needed from the original hardware manufactures in order for those drivers to be written. Thats what we haven't received from Nvidia yet. However, in my couple of years with Android ROMs and watching forums, I've never seen anyone write drivers for any phone or tablet. True, I could have missed something. I think that writing a driver for a printer and writing a driver for 3D acceleration are a bit of a different animal. Could they? Maybe. But if they could, don't you think they would have?
I'd love 3D on the Tab for Gingerbread, but I'm willing to be patient and not harass these fine people who bring us such awesome software.
crutzulee said:
Ok so my last thread got closed down...... but not before some entertaining responses.
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And as for you...you salty dog. You better watch yourself or you'll get banned before you can say, well, Gingerbread drivers! The discussion is welcome, I'm sure, but keep in mind that the devs can only work with what they are given. Let's help and give feedback rather than starting a good ol' fashioned Jim Leahy ****storm.

Notwithstanding my use of the devil Smiley, and my admitting that I know nothing about anything, I thought (wrongly) that my post was obviously tongue in cheek.
I have to admit I spit out my coffee this morning laughing at some of the responses but as has been established, I am a wee bit twisted.
I was surprised that the thread was closed and would really be shocked if I was banned!
Not to get sidetracked....this thread is meant to be SERIOUS. So community made drivers don't break NDA? Can code from the available froyo drivers be used?
If a dev finds my questions annoying. Let me know.
I am aware of how lucky we are to have them despite my failed attempt at humour.

Ok, all joking aside. Its a fair question. Code here and there can be tweaked to suit our needs, so why not drivers? How about you dive in and make it happen? My guess is that the way Gingerbread interacts with the kernel interacts other the drivers is lightyears away from the way Froyo plays. At least that's what's I've taken away from the discussions about Gingerbread. I think it is a matter that takes more intervention from Nvidia than we realize. Again, if it was doable I think that a dev would have piped up and said that they were at least working on the issue. Right now our best bet is letting Nvidia know by kindly emailing that there is a user base eager for drivers. Gently. And leave the devs alone. Really. And the banning thing is for real. Remember that you're here essentially for free, and so is their work.
So donate! And write us some damn drivers so that others can donate to you!

crutzulee said:
Notwithstanding my use of the devil Smiley, and my admitting that I know nothing about anything, I thought (wrongly) that my post was obviously tongue in cheek.
I have to admit I spit out my coffee this morning laughing at some of the responses but as has been established, I am a wee bit twisted.
I was surprised that the thread was closed and would really be shocked if I was banned!
Not to get sidetracked....this thread is meant to be SERIOUS. So community made drivers don't break NDA? Can code from the available froyo drivers be used?
If a dev finds my questions annoying. Let me know.
I am aware of how lucky we are to have them despite my failed attempt at humour.
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Alright, I'm going to bite here.
1.) Regarding the comment about an NDA. nVidia has many patents on the technology that resides inside their drivers, as well as other technology that they don't want the outside world seeing. In Linux and with Android, they're just going to supply binaries, unless a partner signs an NDA, giving them access to the source code.
2.) All it takes is a slight change in the interaction between the kernel and the driver, to break it. Saying "just take the Froyo drivers and put them in Gingerbread" is severely understating the effort. If it were as easy as you think, it would have been done by now.
3.) Legally speaking, reverse engineering a driver, or decompiling code can break the DMCA law. I won't comment on my opinion of this law, but needless to say, the latest trouble the GeoHot got into over reverse engineering the PS3, speaks enough to the hesitation you'll find in people doing these things moving forward... at least in publishing them. The crime becomes even more severe the second a dev takes one of the "donations" setup here. Now they are profiting from the act.
4.) Both nVidia and AMD are starting to release open source drivers for their hardware in linux, but the open source drivers are much different than the closed source.
Lastly, this is just a comment. Look at how many people post here with issue of installing ROMs, just because they can't follow simple directions. Writing low level code for a kernel is not a simple task for people professionally code, let alone "enthusiasts". It takes an intimate knowledge of how linux works, then the subtleties of the changes Android has made to the kernel, then a lot of educated guesses and research, because all of the detailed specs and documentation just aren't made available to the enthusiasts.
End of the day, unless you're willing to fork over some serous cash to one of the devs on here, I wouldn't ask "why can't you just do this, you must not have thought of it, right?". Chances are, they are already 10 steps ahead of you and thought about that and quickly dismissed it, 6 months before you even knew what Android was.

Thanks h3llphyre for your response. You have made clear some of the things that I was uncertain about and was trying to get straight. Most importantly, that there are some legal issues surrounding what I am proposing and that the difficulty level may not make such an undertaking worthwhile.
Your last paragraph still leaves me greatly dismayed that I am greatly misunderstood.
Rest assured that I have donated to devs here and elswhere for their work and, as a person who cannot, greatly appreciate those who can.
My original post was meant to poke fun at those who come on here with a sense of entitlement demanding things like this. If you read other posts written by me in other threads you'd see this. Indeed if you re-read my original thread (with the devilish smiley) you'd see where I was coming from.
I felt like a looser that my original post was soooo misunderstood. I feel like an even bigger loser having to explain it.

Merging and reopening after receiving this from the OP....
crutzulee said:
Hey Jerdog,
I THINK most people got my tongue in cheek humour in my thread about gingerbread video drivers being built from the ground up.
Did you really have to close the thread? Behind the humour was what I thought was a legitimate question.
Someone alluded to an NDA issue with this being done. I am fully aware that if these could be produced either easily or with some effort the devs here would do it.
My thread was an attempt to gain some understanding of how complex this undertaking would be. Could it be done? Would it break an NDA and thus be illegal? Is it just an onerous task where the unskillled (like myself) could donate money and be available for beta testing for a dev willing to undertake it.
Could the thread be re-opened with this PM pasted in for those that don't get or appreciate my brand of humour?
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Merging and reopening after receiving this from the OP....
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@jerdog
You're a saint. I'm glad there is some further explanation behind this thread. I think it is a good, if not inflammatory question.