First of all, thank to all developers and rom coockers that are in the forum, and to the forum itself, you people are one of the best, most serious, controlled, "in topic", smart, organized, easy to read and understand forum all over the net.
I was in the forum for a time now, but i usually dont post, cause i think i don't have any useful to say, and then this is not something useful, it's a question
That question:
I have not yet modify the rom from my kaiser, i have the Vodafone 1615 original spanish rom.
I was reading some about roms since the topic about ati drivers was open (that's not about ATI drivers!!! ) and even yet i don't have any idea about what is the best and fastest ROM for the Kaiser, i think it is one of the roms from Dutty, but there is no benchmark in some roms, then i cannot know what is the best rom.
Also i have another question, it's a bit noob, but that question have a reason to be, i use my kaiser mainly for work, and i cannot let my kaiser to be bricked because there is so much is in game, so, thats the question:
There is any risk installing the HardSPL?
and then:
There is any risk upgrading the ROM when i intalled the HardSPL?
I'm not a noob in surfing the forum, and i used the Search function, and googled, but i don't have these points clear enough for daring to install a new ROM.
Thanks to all.
Juan Gea.
Juang3D, your best bet is to read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
Specifically: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Should answer all your questions.
As to which rom is fastest, that all depends... folks experience different things depending on what they install. My suggestion is to try a bunch of different varieties and eventually you'll settle on the one you want.
juang3d, this is nothing personally aimed at you, and if i offend you i truly am deeply sorry, you asked nicely and explained why you asked but my analogy just came to me as i was reading your post and here's what i have to say:
roms are like women. no matter what everyone is going to say that a one woman is better than other women. you can't be told which woman is right for you, you have to date a few and find her, sometimes the first one you find is great but you should still go out there and date a few others just to be sure, you can always go back to your first choice because roms are better than women; even if someone else has your rom you can have it too and you won't get AIDS. but seriously like ChaOConnor said you need to try a few and find your perfect match.
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roms are like women. no matter what everyone is going to say that a one woman is better than other women. you can't be told which woman is right for you, you have to date a few and find her, sometimes the first one you find is great but you should still go out there and date a few others just to be sure, you can always go back to your first choice because roms are better than women; even if someone else has your rom you can have it too and you won't get AIDS. but seriously like ChaOConnor said you need to try a few and find your perfect match.
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I totally agree with, and second that analogy. Well done, tubaking182
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I totally agree with, and second that analogy. Well done, tubaking182
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thank you very much moonray
I'll actually give a suggestion. Qmobile 1.2. Fastest rom i have tried. Not 6.1 though.
tubaking182 said:
juang3d, this is nothing personally aimed at you, and if i offend you i truly am deeply sorry, you asked nicely and explained why you asked but my analogy just came to me as i was reading your post and here's what i have to say:
roms are like women. no matter what everyone is going to say that a one woman is better than other women. you can't be told which woman is right for you, you have to date a few and find her, sometimes the first one you find is great but you should still go out there and date a few others just to be sure, you can always go back to your first choice because roms are better than women; even if someone else has your rom you can have it too and you won't get AIDS. but seriously like ChaOConnor said you need to try a few and find your perfect match.
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BEST. ANALOGY. EVER.
Thanks to all for your answer.
I saw the links that you gave me ChaOConnor, but i think i'll see again, maybe i did not read carefully, if i'm not comfortable with what i find, i'll ask again, i hope you understand, as i said, Kaiser is VERY important for my work and i must be sure, but thanks for your suggestions, and as i said now, maybe i lost something (it's more than possible hehe) i'll read it again carefully.
For you tubaking182...i TOTALLY agree hehe, i know what a rom is, my question is not about the quality of the soft installed with the rom, is more with the speed of win mobo, in video and in the interface it self, cause, and correct me if i'm wrong, different roms gave differents performances, and i need speed in working, and if i can have speed also in video (even with the eternal problem of "drivers/acceleration") then, better
But as i say...i totally agree with you, as some people say in the forum: +1
hehe
juiceppc i'll see that rom in the same moment that i'm sure to install hard spl and a new rom, i don't care if it's 6.1, if 6.0 is better in speed, then, i prefer 6.0 over 6.1.
Thanks to all for your answers
I know that my post will not add nothing to find the best peformance ROM. I am in the exact same situation as Juang3d. Plus my kaiser OS is in Danish and I need urgently instal a English OS, I need my kaiser to work, and need it to be fast and reliable. I am already 1 week shearching and didnt understud yet wich is the ROM with the best performances. (speed, office,pdf, skype,audio, flash, GPS)
Juan if you find out or create a solid opinion about wich ROM please post. I will do the same.
Or if someone more expert and with empiric experience in this ROM performances questions please enlight hus!!!
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even if someone else has your rom you can have it too and you won't get AIDS.
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All i can say to that is LOL.
LOL
that's the best one on the forums )
Juang3d said:
my question is not about the quality of the soft installed with the rom, is more with the speed of win mobo, in video and in the interface it self, cause, and correct me if i'm wrong, different roms gave differents performances, and i need speed in working, and if i can have speed also in video (even with the eternal problem of "drivers/acceleration") then, better
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You'll find each ROM will depend on what you choose to install. Each ROM will interact differently with various radios. It's a bit of trial and error, really. The good thing is, you can flash a new ROM every day if you like. A lot of people like Dutty's ROMs. They are not for me. I love Leo's ROMs. They are not for everyone.
Look at screen shots, flash it (after carefully reading how to do so properly), and see if you like it. If not, try another.
If you have tried all the ROms in this forum
time to roll back to the original HTC Kaiser ship rom lolz... that works the best for me.
TubaKing's analogy rocks!
For the OP- After trying a lot of Roms I found that the ROMeOS (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406346) have been the best for me. They are stable, fast, and error free. I wanted a Lite Rom and for me ROMeOS is the best fit. As stated earlier, it all depends on what you like. That's why there are skinny girls, fat girls, different skin tones, etc. We all like a different kind of girl, keeping with the TubaKing analogy. And we all want different things from our Rom.
As far as messing with your work phone. I would be very cautious about that. If it is not your property I would not get started with all of this modding on my bosses phone. Maybe buy your own and mess with it. Good luck.
atm im using sleuth's. its okay, but im looking for the one that lags least when you slide the keyboard
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atm im using sleuth's. its okay, but im looking for the one that lags least when you slide the keyboard
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Try Romeos. Its the best, fastest & most Stable; yet.
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I WANT THIS ROM !!!! my 50 € (or even more if needed) are avaliable
Things I like (from HTC web site):
The HTC Advantage™ features HTC's TouchFLO™ software which enhances finger touch scrolling and browsing of Web pages, documents, messages and contact lists. The Advantage™ will also include Opera Mobile 9 and Google Maps for mobile.
In addition to the many software enhancements, the HTC Advantage™ also adds a variety of new and improved hardware features including 16GB of storage, a new improved keyboard with haptic feedback and an updated version of VueFLO™ using a G-sensor that recognises the screen orientation of the device for optimal customer usage.
me too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wont you lose your dual camera in the 7510 rom?
I hope in the new PK 4.0 (temp codename VIENNA)
shivam said:
Wont you lose your dual camera in the 7510 rom?
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7510 has two camera, does'nt it? It is 7501 that has only 1 camera.
If You check real photo of MDA Ameo 16GB = X7510
It has front camera .
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And NO realVGA and no lights on KB too.
I am trying to find this ROM but may be today it exists only in some .pdf SPEC sheet!
No answer also from ROM cookers , they are just proud of their "secret" rom in the TAG. The ATHENA forum is becoming the only "donate or nothing" forum in XDA-DEVS!
We cannot find any image of ROM :
We cannot find any image of ROM :
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And NO realVGA and no lights on KB too.
I am trying to find this ROM but may be today it exists only in some .pdf SPEC sheet!
No answer also from ROM cookers , they are just proud of their "secret" rom in the TAG. The ATHENA forum is becoming the only "donate or nothing" forum in XDA-DEVS!
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Man you crack me up. Truly funny. LOL
4.0 coming soon!!! YEA BABY!!!
PROUD OF MY SECRETS!
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No answer also from ROM cookers , they are just proud of their "secret" rom in the TAG. The ATHENA forum is becoming the only "donate or nothing" forum in XDA-DEVS!
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Not sure if that was sarcasm or a true opinion, but if the latter then why don't you go and cook a 1st class stable ROM and share it with the rest for free!
I'm happy to donate to a cause which WILL produce an excellent ROM.
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And NO realVGA and no lights on KB too.
I am trying to find this ROM but may be today it exists only in some .pdf SPEC sheet!
No answer also from ROM cookers , they are just proud of their "secret" rom in the TAG. The ATHENA forum is becoming the only "donate or nothing" forum in XDA-DEVS!
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you gotta be kiddin'
[OT]
Is a true sarcasm, in my managing experience things like "Athena project" never worked in a long range strategy (in the INTERNET developer’s forums model). And this is happening again here IMHO.
You pay to give a device to someone, he will produce "enough" results, then he will restart doing the things he loves to do (with his own device or the most popular device).
He will do those things primarily proud to spread his name and his job around. If you would to have something new… you have just created the monster, the “pay for ROM” business model.
Here (XDA-DEVS) there is a "passion driven" business model and IMHO (I know isn't popular here) athena project gave some results in the beginning, but in the long term a delicate equilibrium was broken.
It is a simple business school lesson, too long and boring (and off topic too) to explain here, how to manage a "free" or a "managed" environment. You ask me to explain WHY and I hope I answered
who said im stopping. i just need time to beat my previous work. raise the bar again. i have some new stuff that i am trying to work on getting perfected. i believe i have solved all the problems i had that kept me from working on the rom(*knock on wood*) so you should see a result soon. though ltxda is telling me this new build isnt as fast as the vanilla build i was doing before so maybe i might work on tweaking the speed for another day.
looks like tommorow i should begin on a beta of the roms. yes people we have moved from the alpha stage to the beta. also remember im working on a vanilla and full rom at the same time and i really never did something like this. i usually do one at a time. please be patient. i am far from retired as u would call it.
target release date: first week of march(1-7) or 2nd week of march(8-14).
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Is a true sarcasm, in my managing experience things like "Athena project" never worked in a long range strategy (in the INTERNET developer’s forums model). And this is happening again here IMHO.
You pay to give a device to someone, he will produce "enough" results, then he will restart doing the things he loves to do (with his own device or the most popular device).
He will do those things primarily proud to spread his name and his job around. If you would to have something new… you have just created the monster, the “pay for ROM” business model.
Here (XDA-DEVS) there is a "passion driven" business model and IMHO (I know isn't popular here) athena project gave some results in the beginning, but in the long term a delicate equilibrium was broken.
It is a simple business school lesson, too long and boring (and off topic too) to explain here, how to manage a "free" or a "managed" environment. You ask me to explain WHY and I hope I answered
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Yet again, you continue to have negative feedback and misunderstandings about what's going on.
Just sit back and relax. You got three GREAT ROMs from the project and at least one more is coming. If the ROMs wouldn't be so great then you wouldn't be wanting more. ;-p
Now stop being such a negative whinny and shush. ;-p
4.0 is in the works. I guess you're not reading the posts and keeping up to date huh? Becuase I personally have mentioned the coming of 4.0, I even started a post on 4.0, etc.
You're just trying to get more info than you need. Won't happen. Just wait like the rest and eventually, one day, one year...you'll get a new ROM. If that's not good enough, feel free to cook one up for the community since you have a device and let's see it. I would love to help you by testing it. I'll be here waiting.
Man you still crack me up...in a good way of course.
EDIT:
One more thing...thank you all for replying to him as well. That's what sets the Athena forum apart from all others...truly intelligent and educated people that understand. Every now and then one slips through the cracks though. Guys and gals...yes and there are gals here...on behalf of the entire team and more importantly the community....thank you for the support and encouragement and dontations to make this possible. Hell that's thanking myself since I donated a great deal of money also. We were and are all in this together. Thank you!
Pawel062 said:
who said im stopping. i just need time to beat my previous work. raise the bar again. i have some new stuff that i am trying to work on getting perfected. i believe i have solved all the problems i had that kept me from working on the rom(*knock on wood*) so you should see a result soon. though ltxda is telling me this new build isnt as fast as the vanilla build i was doing before so maybe i might work on tweaking the speed for another day.
looks like tommorow i should begin on a beta of the roms. yes people we have moved from the alpha stage to the beta. also remember im working on a vanilla and full rom at the same time and i really never did something like this. i usually do one at a time. please be patient. i am far from retired as u would call it.
target release date: first week of march(1-7) or 2nd week of march(8-14).
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PK...as Project Leader I'm officially and publicly asking you to ignore correspondence from this guy. We need to focus on the project...not someone who's trying to get the inside scoop on the next great ROM. ROTFL!
YES SIR!!!
Excuse me SIR!!
I explain this again. I am just giving my honest opinion, you can agree or disagree, but I am not insulting anyone.
I am not trying to have any scoop, I disagree only to what I see here, different from the HERMES , KAISER , EXCALIBUR and WIZARD forums. I see developers communities, helping each other, and the main stream is to have news, utilities and ROM.
Here there are to many "secrets" and little knowledge sharing. May be I want only "steal" knowledge, sorry I need glasses to read, and as CEO I have people paid to do those things. My purpose isn't to have a new fantascientific ROM, is to share knowlege. And technology management is something I believe I can share. I expect the same from the others and answer like "shut up, silence and patience" or "I am the project leader and I am ordering: don't answer" isn't the one I expect from a forum.
I said, we aren't customers! And this is a "donate or nothing" model, a company-customer model that I can't agree .
May be I don't understand fully the english used here, but I don't like what I understand, and I try to say it loud!
BTW Thanks pawel62 for your answer, your are a nice person and I understand you are busy. I like you answering to technical question, as I said, isn't new ROM my target, is KNOWLEDGE, I still had the PK 3.0 ROM (now I have another one, but I can't share due to NDA)!
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YES SIR!!!
Excuse me SIR!!
I explain this again. I am just giving my honest opinion, you can agree or disagree, but I am not insulting anyone.
I am not trying to have any scoop, I disagree only to what I see here, different from the HERMES , KAISER , EXCALIBUR and WIZARD forums. I see developere communities, helping each other, and the main stream is to have news, utilities and ROM.
Here there are to many "secrets" and little knowledge sharing. May be I want only "steal" knowledge, sorry I need glasses to read, and as CEO I have people paid to do those things. My purpose isn't to have a new fantascientific ROM, is to share knowlege. And technology management is something I believe I can share. I expect the same from the others and answer like "shut up, silence and patience" or "I am the chef and I am ordering: don't answer" isn't the one I expect from a forum.
I said, we aren't customers! And this is a "donate or nothing" model, a company-customer model that I can't agree.
May be I don't understand fully the english used here, but I don't like what I understand, and I try to say it loud!
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Thank you, let`s see if others reply to this logic and explanation. ;p
Guys and gals it's going off topic......
Going back to the topic
With regards to the rom, is there any news on the bluetooth stack?
I just managed to get my bluetooth watch working with MS BT Stack thanks to Moneytoo app and if the rom does include Widcomm instead I will have to search for a solution if any,
Thanks a lot to the team for all effort and goog work
regards
For new build issues i mentioned an older thread of mine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393062&highlight=revalation
I was just wondering if it were possible for a cab or something to be made tha contains the fixes htc have made to their new roms. As i have trouble with new builds i figured if i could atleast install the fix in an older rom...
bump Bump BUmp BUMp BUMP
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bump Bump BUmp BUMp BUMP
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I hate to be so obviously stupid...
But - what fix are you hoping you can get a cab of?
What exactly is wrong with your phone?
What exactly problem are you having?
Not that I can help - but I certainly will give it a go if I understand what it is you are having an issue with.
Bill
whk said:
I hate to be so obviously stupid...
But - what fix are you hoping you can get a cab of?
What exactly is wrong with your phone?
What exactly problem are you having?
Not that I can help - but I certainly will give it a go if I understand what it is you are having an issue with.
Bill
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you're not being obviously stupid, there isn't some magic cab that will fix all that ails wm6.1 and the reason that this thread has been ignored thus far is that it is pointless and the question was so badly worded and phrased that nobody figured it was worth wasting time on. oh yeah, and it's not even posted in the right forum as this has nothing to do with rom development.
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As title says maybe that would be easier to do than heping me with my issue? (this isnt another new thread just an edited asking for help one) .
By the fix i mean what ever makes the official 6.1 roms faster
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I can help - have you still got the original packaging and manuals the Kaiser came with?...........
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you're not being obviously stupid, there isn't some magic cab that will fix all that ails wm6.1 and the reason that this thread has been ignored thus far is that it is pointless and the question was so badly worded and phrased that nobody figured it was worth wasting time on. oh yeah, and it's not even posted in the right forum as this has nothing to do with rom development.
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i am speechless ...but can i talk u into creating a cab that will fix windows in general
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By the fix i mean what ever makes the official 6.1 roms faster
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I have problems with new builds im talking about the drivers or what ever that htc used to improve the device's performace in the offical 6.1 roms just released.
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i am speechless ...but can i talk u into creating a cab that will fix windows in general
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Yeah i'll get right on that. I wonder why nobody ever thought about that before. Genious!!! I think we might be onto something
whk said:
I hate to be so obviously stupid...
But - what fix are you hoping you can get a cab of?
What exactly is wrong with your phone?
What exactly problem are you having?
Not that I can help - but I certainly will give it a go if I understand what it is you are having an issue with.
Bill
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Problem from an older thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393062&highlight=revalation
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you're not being obviously stupid, there isn't some magic cab that will fix all that ails wm6.1 and the reason that this thread has been ignored thus far is that it is pointless and the question was so badly worded and phrased that nobody figured it was worth wasting time on. oh yeah, and it's not even posted in the right forum as this has nothing to do with rom development.
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Sorry for not making the original thread unclear i have edited it to make it more understandable i hope at least. Just wonder if i should bump it now or just post a link here.
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No its a program cab one you use to install stuff to device i must be unclear about what exactly i want will edit original post in a minute.
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No its a program cab one you use to install stuff to device i must be unclear about what exactly i want will edit original post in a minute.
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It was a joke, and actually a really funny one
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It was a joke, and actually a really funny one
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Yeah i know, but still i have been know to give unclear information so a joke with a message for me.
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Yeah i know, but still i have been know to give unclear information so a joke with a message for me.
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The new HTC roms don't have some small changes that can be put into a cab, so what you are asking for doesn't and won't exist is really the point everyone is trying to make. It's not just one thing. If you want the improvements that come with the updated roms, then you're gonna have to flash a new rom. That's the simple, clear, and humorless answer.
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The new HTC roms don't have some small changes that can be put into a cab, so what you are asking for doesn't and won't exist is really the point everyone is trying to make. It's not just one thing. If you want the improvements that come with the updated roms, then you're gonna have to flash a new rom. That's the simple, clear, and humorless answer.
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Which points back to my first post which iv edited to point to a thread explaining why i as much as i want to don't use the new builds. The Problems might sound small but will get to you sooner or later.
Looks like im stuck with low perforance old roms from now on .. Just 12 months left of this contract ... Just....
First to hear no drivers, now i can't even use the fix.
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Problem from an older thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393062&highlight=revalation
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So - you had an "old thread" that did not get you the answer that you wanted - so you created a NEW thread and continue to "bump" it to get a "fix" from someone that has not been released yet? (there are NO DRIVERS and NO faster stuff).
The "faster" that you seek is done by the chefs who cook it just right and THAT is what makes it faster.
I just updated my Tilt today to shogunmark's latest version and it is a big difference for me. It is very nice - I recommend it.
However you will find lot's of other roms that were cooked well and others recommend as well.
You should:
1. read the wiki
2. try installing a new ROM for yourself
3. stop creating lots of threads on the same topic just because you don't get the answer you want as fast as you want.
Bill
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hahhha
brilliant
whk said:
So - you had an "old thread" that did not get you the answer that you wanted - so you created a NEW thread and continue to "bump" it to get a "fix" from someone that has not been released yet? (there are NO DRIVERS and NO faster stuff).
The "faster" that you seek is done by the chefs who cook it just right and THAT is what makes it faster.
I just updated my Tilt today to shogunmark's latest version and it is a big difference for me. It is very nice - I recommend it.
However you will find lot's of other roms that were cooked well and others recommend as well.
You should:
1. read the wiki
2. try installing a new ROM for yourself
3. stop creating lots of threads on the same topic just because you don't get the answer you want as fast as you want.
Bill
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Old thread was about fixing the problems i have when i DO install new builds. no replies so made a different one this one to ask if ther was a way to boost performace of older roms which i have no problems with using something from the new offical releaces.
The costant bump is because i never seem to hear from the chefs themselves, just random people so can't be sure their comment is trustable as a final word.
I might suggest going back to the basics and re-reading alot of things on how to flash a rom. I did the same thing myself and realized that I wasn't resetting the rom everytime. It IS an important step and makes a BIG difference in the performance of the rom.
As for a cab that includes all the fixes... Not likely to exist. I have never seen a "service pack" or anything similar for Windows Mobile. At least that's what it appears you are asking for. Honestly if you don't like the rom and radio combination you are currently using try changing it up. I've noticed that where I live certain radios burn up battery like nothing. Others work GREAT. Even ones many people in more "metropolitan" areas report work WAY better.
Even after reading your edited original post it still seems to me that your problem may be VERY likely that you are missing SOMETHING when flashing. Either mismatched radios like stated before or not reseting properly. Another thing to look at is whether or not you might be installing something which causes problems.
I hope this leads you in a better direction to help yourself. Good luck man!
I frequently see new radios posted. Some are very benefiical & it's nice to have a choice. Sometimes you can use a radio from another device & it will have some added benefit, point in case, the polaris radios we have thanks to AllTheWay & others.
However, Not all radios are equal. Not all newer radios, or even all radios from devices with similar or exactly the same processors are compatible. One sure fire way to completely destroy your device, even beyond the powers of FrankenKaiser is to flash an incompatible Radio. Even flashing a totally incompatible rom can have this affect.
Remember, just because it is newer, does NOT mean it's better.
I have spent the last week disecting the Diamond ROM & Radio. I know there are noobies here that see something new & want it. They take for granted that newer means better & this is just not always the case.
I do NOT want to see anyone extracting & posting or flashing the Diamond Radio. You just may kill an unknowing Noobies device. If you do, there will be no saving you. Not by me, not by Jocky, Not by Pof, Olinex nor anyone else here.
JTAG will be your only possible savior, & even that I am still unsure of.
If you see any posts about new radios, Diamond, Touch, Touch Pro, stay away from them. Many of us visit other sites & someone their may not be as knowledgable as the people at XDA.
Always be careful when flashing radios. Know the source & take the time to learn what the file size of a radio for you device is. Flashing an incompatible radio WILL most likely be the end of your device.
Take it from me, I have spent hours upon hours investigating the Diamond & Touch Pro radios & from the looks of things, if you flash one, you will even wipe out OEMSBL. That means there will be NO recovery.
This week I have also seen several bricks from people thinking they could just disect & rebuil the existing Diamond ROM. Don't do it people. There are too many issues & differences to think you can easily interchange these radios & roms.
Flash Smart, Flash safe & leave the investigation of these things to the true Hero's of this community.
Excellent information on Radios!
What to do and what not to do.
Thanks mate for such a fine thread.
KOR!
I agree, it's always a good idea to remind those of us who don't know what we're doing not to get in over our heads, and i'm sure saves you a lot of headaches. Thanks for all your hard work around here.
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I agree, it's always a good idea to remind those of us who don't know what we're doing not to get in over our heads, and i'm sure saves you a lot of headaches. Thanks for all your hard work around here.
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This should be a sticky!
Not sure if this info is on the WIKI but if not it must be....
Thanks for the info!
I in no way am going to discount what GSLEON3 has to say. He has put it perfectly! I just want to make some things clear in the light of our well known ROM chefs: replacing drivers and updating items within an OS (and only the OS) is fine. You will not kill firmware, boot loaders, etc. The Kaiser "Diamond" ROMs that are floating around on our Kaiser ROM development (this forum) are fine to use as these do not contain firmware, Radios, or the Diamond SPL (boot loader). Every device is different, just like a car. You wouldn't want to put diesel in a gas/petrol car would you? And that analogy works with any electronic device and not just our phones.
Another thing I would like to point out: 9 times out of 10, you will not be the first to flash a radio or ROM. I know many people who flashed to the "radio from hell" after being warned in countless threads and even by AllTheWay himself. This means they did not read the forum and threads before flashing. Also stick to guys like Laurentius26, duttythroy, _Alex_, NoThrills, Sleuth255 (just to name a few) as they have experience in what works and does not (at least so far)
So... Read up, be alert, and play safe
Dangerously is correct. The issue with the diamond rom is in flashing the WHOLE rom. Using ported drivers & updated libraries is ok. There are some however that if not done right can present issues.
I have flashed the Diamond Radio to a defective device. Currently it appears my I was correct & the only possible hope is in JTAG. I have talked a length with Jocky & will be trying to see if this can be rectified with JTAG. This however will present an issue to you if you end up flashing the entire rom, like a few already have (you should see my IM logs), or that have flashed the radio because JTAGing requires opening up the unit. There is also no garruntee that JTAG will work either. I'll have to see if I can get a bin file to load into ram & hhold there. Not going to be easy & I don't think there will be a clean & easy FrankenKaiser fix to this type of brick.
Jtagging should be quite easy.
The main problem is to find the pinouts. For the rest I've already programmed a special software to read out and flash the nand/nor
If you've already got the pinouts, let me know.
thanks for the info I'm sure some people that are new to Kaisers or even playing around with custom rom's and radios will find this useful
GSLEON3 said:
This week I have also seen several bricks from people thinking they could just disect & rebuil the existing Diamond ROM. Don't do it people. There are too many issues & differences to think you can easily interchange these radios & roms.
Flash Smart, Flash safe & leave the investigation of these things to the true Hero's of this community.
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Stock- RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05 should be intresting for those who want to have a go @ it.
Sorry for such a noobs question, but how about the already used and popular Radio ROMs from Nikis, Neons, Sednas and whatnots?
Are they also dangerous, even when it doesn't show any effect to our devices yet?
The reason I ask this because I currently used the 1.58.25.17 from Neon, at least that what I heard.
Or your point is only for any newer Radio version which not yet tested? If that's the case, I could not more agree.
Cheers!
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Sorry for such a noobs question, but how about the already used and popular Radio ROMs from Nikis, Neons, Sednas and whatnots?
Are they also dangerous, even when it doesn't show any effect to our devices yet?
The reason I ask this because I currently used the 1.58.25.17 from Neon, at least that what I heard.
Or your point is only for any newer Radio version which not yet tested? If that's the case, I could not more agree.
Cheers!
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I belive he is refering to the one who is porting and as you said using "untested" radios. Radio`s you find ie. in ultimate radio tread are tested and confirmed working. This is a heads up for hackers`n dev`s
Thanks for the info
I take my hat off and respectfully bow in your general direction Sir.
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A great post sir and one I hope all will read!!
How I wish that info like this and other very important postings be placed on an XDA DEVELOPERS entrance front page which MUST be read by new and not so new members before entering the site.
Hope that makes sense.
For the above info, once again it is invaluable and priceless. I for one would only ever concider using items on my Kaiser that I knew were fully tested, checked and packed by known sparks, chefs. I learnt my lessons of "I-know-best-and-I-can-always-fix-it....opppss" during my BlueAngel days.
Besides, like many on here...I love my Kaiser too much to put her in danger of an early grave or cause any pain
Completely agreed. A warning is indeed needed.
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great post! thanks for this information
mbarvian,
on a completely unrelated note, where is your avatar from?
Looks nice.
adem_7 said:
mbarvian,
on a completely unrelated note, where is your avatar from?
Looks nice.
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The filename is master-chief2.jpg. After a bit of googleing, it turns out it's Halo.
Ta
Dave
Sound advice, everyone pay attention!
what if someone was to do this (even after signing the radio as Kaiser's)?
i just did it to my phone? do u know how I can recover it?
i know it was stupid
I propose inserting this lthread's link into the Ultimate Radio with brief explanation, and also flashing for noobs' thread. I'm a noob, and have been greatly helped by reading out those stickies.
Great Warning requires prominent display
PS: Mbarvian, how's your Kaiser's revival?
I always counted on dutty to provide super fast very stable feature packed bug free roms.
Now that he's gone, I'm wondering who in your opinion makes the best roms.
I am especially interested in a rom that uses the diamond's graphics drivers to improve kaiser's performance.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
As with dutty, whose ever roms that I download, I will send a paypal payment for their hard work.
P.S: I really wish that dutty left us behind one final fully optimized completely stable and bug free lite diamond rom, rather than leaving us with an alpha diamond rom that still has some bugs.
Getting in there before the inevitable "Use the search"/"ROMs are an individual choice" replies.....
I personally can't get enough of L26's ROMs at present, esp V9. Very fast, very stable (in my experience).
Not sure that any ROMs are using the Diamond's graphics drivers to any great effect yet, but if anyone is likely to do so, it will be Laurentius26.
Loving the Garmin one I'm using right now, pretty fast and stable! My opinion obviously and yours may differ. Leo is always good as well. (L26 that is)
We need to get GXMarks for all the roms haha. Anyone willing to spend one boring afternoon flashing and doing GXmark tests for all of the new ones?
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We need to get GXMarks for all the roms haha. Anyone willing to spend one boring afternoon flashing and doing GXmark tests for all of the new ones?
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It seems to me that a lot of people now do not trust any of the Benchmarking tools. There are a lot of 1588 scores if you know what I mean.
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P.S: I really wish that dutty left us behind one final fully optimized completely stable and bug free lite diamond rom, rather than leaving us with an alpha diamond rom that still has some bugs.
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yeah it must really suck to get FREE ROMs from somebody who spends hours making them.
Yeah that really sucks...to have about 50 other ROMs to try as well.
Jon Stewart said:
I always counted on dutty to provide super fast very stable feature packed bug free roms.
Now that he's gone, I'm wondering who in your opinion makes the best roms.
I am especially interested in a rom that uses the diamond's graphics drivers to improve kaiser's performance.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
As with dutty, whose ever roms that I download, I will send a paypal payment for their hard work.
P.S: I really wish that dutty left us behind one final fully optimized completely stable and bug free lite diamond rom, rather than leaving us with an alpha diamond rom that still has some bugs.
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Well to begin, even before dutty left there was still much debate as to which roms were the best. (to be clear, i am an avid supporter of dutty's roms. Just trying to be objective) Every rom seems to have some compatiblity issues with certain software, seems like fixing one problem creates another. There are several fantastic roms out right now. It readlly just depends on what you're looking for. I happen to like Garmin's new diamond rom and Shogun's death roms the best.
Now for the less fun part. A thread just like this was closed yesterday, and it seems like at least once a week, and in this case once a day we're having "what's the best rom" threads created in the rom development forum. Now i am not opposed to a thread like this existing, even though i think they're kind of a waste of space. I just think it should be in the general forum. This isn't the "anything and everything about roms" forum; it is the rom DEVELOPMENT forum. So I am asking you very politely to please post in the correct forums, as is the policy at XDA.
Here's another vote for the L26 roms, they're amazing.
And Dutty did (arguably) leave us with a very quick, reliable, and stable rom - it just doesn't have any of the Diamond goodies in it.
[Apr 29]Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700
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So I am asking you very politely to please post in the correct forums, as is the policy at XDA.
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Speaking of XDA Policy.
Redundant thread. Now closed.
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yeah it must really suck to get FREE ROMs from somebody who spends hours making them.
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Is everybody taking mean pills today? The kid said he donated...
AllTheWay said:
yeah it must really suck to get FREE ROMs from somebody who spends hours making them.
Yeah that really sucks...to have about 50 other ROMs to try as well.
Hey I got an idea. Pick up an iphone. Tell me how many ROMs you can put on that.
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That's a great point! I will rabbit trail it here for a minute...I HATE when people compare WM to the OS for the Iphone! It is a completely unfair comparison. The OS for the Iphone runs on ONE set of hardware. How many different sets of hardware configuration does WM support? I'm pretty sure it's a lot more than one. Plus developers don't have to go beg microsoft to let their software run on people's phone.
First I like to say bravo to the many chefs especially like hyperdragon manila 2d right now. I do find myself wondering why the hell the many themes/ skins for M2D are not being utilized to add a distinct look to the various chefs roms? I know these can be customized by each user but I look at the various latest and greatest uploads and they all look the exact same except for apps etc...
Just curious and would love to see these roms have a more distinct look because I know it has allot to do with the rate at which they are downloaded/ used.
Just my .02, maybe its due to stability issues or something like that please correct me if it is and Ill shut up What can I say, Im just curious I guess.
swtaltima said:
I know these can be customized by each user but I look at the various latest and greatest uploads and they all look the exact same except for apps etc...
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There's your answer right there.
edgie168 said:
There's your answer right there.
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Well said, short, sweet, and to the point. All we need is one more thing for people to litter the threads with their opinions...
scotchua said:
Well said, short, sweet, and to the point. All we need is one more thing for people to litter the threads with their opinions...
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Come on guys, not litter and dont need the sarcasm or judging thank you very much. I have started maybe a few threads so seriously don't be so quick to judge, this has become as big of a problem as the redundant newb posts.
Anyway... to those who have a good response please post or keep it to yourself.
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Come on guys, not litter and dont need the sarcasm or judging thank you very much. I have started maybe a few threads so seriously don't be so quick to judge, this has become as big of a problem as the redundant newb posts.
Anyway... to those who have a good response please post or keep it to yourself.
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i think in the end u r right man the user can customize it themselves... i mean i really dont see y a cook would put a theme from over in dev and hacking when the user can do this them self... is it not enuff the chef is cooking the rom now u want him to take time to go pick a theme he thinks everyone may like(when they gonna change anyway)... not to be smart but this is kind of ridiculous man and definately not worthy of a new thread in kaiser rom dev maybe general but not here... on the up maybe u should do a poll to find out what theme everyone like then ask one of the chefs to break down the manilla package and cook in the theme with it and then cross ur fingers and hope noone has any issues... i mean what did u expect with this thread man people to start saying yea i like this theme ooh i like that theme and so on sounds like they got just the thread for this already to me...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425974
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Come on guys, not litter and dont need the sarcasm or judging thank you very much. I have started maybe a few threads so seriously don't be so quick to judge, this has become as big of a problem as the redundant newb posts.
Anyway... to those who have a good response please post or keep it to yourself.
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First off, what gives you the right to judge the quality if my post? I expressed my opinion of what i think it would lead to. I personally think your posts is kind of pointless, but i didn't reprimand you for what i think was a wasted post. I just expressed an opinion of where it would lead us. Have you read many threads? This is what i see in most of them:
Please remove MSVC
Please cook MSVC
I prefer Cyberon
I prefer MSVC
You should put more games in
You should take games out and let the user pick
Please cook in Netcf so beejive will work
Please take netcf out, cause users can install it themselves
I like v5 camera, you should use that
I live v6 camera
i want video dialer
i want the opal dialer
How can i change the custom icons
You should use custom icons
i don't like custom icons, can't we just have the default
I like manila2D
I think manila2D sucks, please some lite roms
I don't like lite roms, why doesn't anyone make full roms?
I think i've made my point. If you create a custom theme, with custom clocks we'll have pages filled with:
I don't like this clock, you should use this clock
Why don't you just use the standard skin
I want a red skin
i want a blue skin
i think this skin isn't very good, i'm gonna use my own
Just one more thing for people to clutter the threads with. That was my point. Sorry if MY opinion wasn't valuable enough for your thread.
Here's 270 pages of skins:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425974
If people can't figure out how to install them, then they shouldn't be customizing their phones, IMO.
I guess some people only want to hear opinions when it suits their own opinion.
*shrug*
To all of your responses, I must apologize if I seemed rude last night but I had a rough day and well... I was working through a bottle of vodka
Anyway, all good points you have. I guess I should have said that I miss the unique look to the various roms like before. Its nothing against the chefs, without them I probabley would have been bored with my device long ago, I was merely pointing out that there used to be a distinct difference between each and every rom.
I do understand what you guys are saying though. Just wanted to start my day right by clearing this up.
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First off, what gives you the right to judge the quality if my post? I expressed my opinion of what i think it would lead to. I personally think your posts is kind of pointless, but i didn't reprimand you for what i think was a wasted post. I just expressed an opinion of where it would lead us. Have you read many threads? This is what i see in most of them:
Please remove MSVC
Please cook MSVC
I prefer Cyberon
I prefer MSVC
You should put more games in
You should take games out and let the user pick
Please cook in Netcf so beejive will work
Please take netcf out, cause users can install it themselves
I like v5 camera, you should use that
I live v6 camera
i want video dialer
i want the opal dialer
How can i change the custom icons
You should use custom icons
i don't like custom icons, can't we just have the default
I like manila2D
I think manila2D sucks, please some lite roms
I don't like lite roms, why doesn't anyone make full roms?
I think i've made my point. If you create a custom theme, with custom clocks we'll have pages filled with:
I don't like this clock, you should use this clock
Why don't you just use the standard skin
I want a red skin
i want a blue skin
i think this skin isn't very good, i'm gonna use my own
Just one more thing for people to clutter the threads with. That was my point. Sorry if MY opinion wasn't valuable enough for your thread.
Here's 270 pages of skins:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425974
If people can't figure out how to install them, then they shouldn't be customizing their phones, IMO.
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i dont blame you that every one of your posts are cranky tirades..the entire usa has discovered that alaska is complete morons.. they voted ted stevens and sarah palin in -- how embarrassed you must be..
almost as much as when i got abroad and have to admit that i am from a country that voted GW in twice.
it will all be over soon..
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To all of your responses, I must apologize if I seemed rude last night but I had a rough day and well... I was working through a bottle of vodka
Anyway, all good points you have. I guess I should have said that I miss the unique look to the various roms like before. Its nothing against the chefs, without them I probabley would have been bored with my device long ago, I was merely pointing out that there used to be a distinct difference between each and every rom.
I do understand what you guys are saying though. Just wanted to start my day right by clearing this up.
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Everyone has bad days, so no hard feelings. I started to feel the way you do awhile ago. Because my device is heavily customized, by the time i get it set up the way i like it, there ends up being very little difference between roms. Usually i flash simply to get the newest piece of software that someone had located. My conclusion was that i simply just need to buy a new phone i hear the touch pro is coming out soon...should tide me over for awhile.
Wow, Where the heck did I end up? A Kindergarten Play Ground?
Geez people quit getting all offended by other peoples comments.
You ask for opinions you get them. That's why I don't like "best of" type threads.
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To the OP: Manilla is new, all our chefs these days will implement the most basic design to get it to work than tweak it. Also sometimes Chefs will use someone else s work to change the "look" (i.e. Home Customizer)
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