A Word About Radios & Their Dangers... - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De

I frequently see new radios posted. Some are very benefiical & it's nice to have a choice. Sometimes you can use a radio from another device & it will have some added benefit, point in case, the polaris radios we have thanks to AllTheWay & others.
However, Not all radios are equal. Not all newer radios, or even all radios from devices with similar or exactly the same processors are compatible. One sure fire way to completely destroy your device, even beyond the powers of FrankenKaiser is to flash an incompatible Radio. Even flashing a totally incompatible rom can have this affect.
Remember, just because it is newer, does NOT mean it's better.
I have spent the last week disecting the Diamond ROM & Radio. I know there are noobies here that see something new & want it. They take for granted that newer means better & this is just not always the case.
I do NOT want to see anyone extracting & posting or flashing the Diamond Radio. You just may kill an unknowing Noobies device. If you do, there will be no saving you. Not by me, not by Jocky, Not by Pof, Olinex nor anyone else here.
JTAG will be your only possible savior, & even that I am still unsure of.
If you see any posts about new radios, Diamond, Touch, Touch Pro, stay away from them. Many of us visit other sites & someone their may not be as knowledgable as the people at XDA.
Always be careful when flashing radios. Know the source & take the time to learn what the file size of a radio for you device is. Flashing an incompatible radio WILL most likely be the end of your device.
Take it from me, I have spent hours upon hours investigating the Diamond & Touch Pro radios & from the looks of things, if you flash one, you will even wipe out OEMSBL. That means there will be NO recovery.
This week I have also seen several bricks from people thinking they could just disect & rebuil the existing Diamond ROM. Don't do it people. There are too many issues & differences to think you can easily interchange these radios & roms.
Flash Smart, Flash safe & leave the investigation of these things to the true Hero's of this community.

Excellent information on Radios!
What to do and what not to do.
Thanks mate for such a fine thread.
KOR!

I agree, it's always a good idea to remind those of us who don't know what we're doing not to get in over our heads, and i'm sure saves you a lot of headaches. Thanks for all your hard work around here.

skatdawg said:
I agree, it's always a good idea to remind those of us who don't know what we're doing not to get in over our heads, and i'm sure saves you a lot of headaches. Thanks for all your hard work around here.
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This should be a sticky!
Not sure if this info is on the WIKI but if not it must be....
Thanks for the info!

I in no way am going to discount what GSLEON3 has to say. He has put it perfectly! I just want to make some things clear in the light of our well known ROM chefs: replacing drivers and updating items within an OS (and only the OS) is fine. You will not kill firmware, boot loaders, etc. The Kaiser "Diamond" ROMs that are floating around on our Kaiser ROM development (this forum) are fine to use as these do not contain firmware, Radios, or the Diamond SPL (boot loader). Every device is different, just like a car. You wouldn't want to put diesel in a gas/petrol car would you? And that analogy works with any electronic device and not just our phones.
Another thing I would like to point out: 9 times out of 10, you will not be the first to flash a radio or ROM. I know many people who flashed to the "radio from hell" after being warned in countless threads and even by AllTheWay himself. This means they did not read the forum and threads before flashing. Also stick to guys like Laurentius26, duttythroy, _Alex_, NoThrills, Sleuth255 (just to name a few) as they have experience in what works and does not (at least so far)
So... Read up, be alert, and play safe

Dangerously is correct. The issue with the diamond rom is in flashing the WHOLE rom. Using ported drivers & updated libraries is ok. There are some however that if not done right can present issues.
I have flashed the Diamond Radio to a defective device. Currently it appears my I was correct & the only possible hope is in JTAG. I have talked a length with Jocky & will be trying to see if this can be rectified with JTAG. This however will present an issue to you if you end up flashing the entire rom, like a few already have (you should see my IM logs), or that have flashed the radio because JTAGing requires opening up the unit. There is also no garruntee that JTAG will work either. I'll have to see if I can get a bin file to load into ram & hhold there. Not going to be easy & I don't think there will be a clean & easy FrankenKaiser fix to this type of brick.

Jtagging should be quite easy.
The main problem is to find the pinouts. For the rest I've already programmed a special software to read out and flash the nand/nor
If you've already got the pinouts, let me know.

thanks for the info I'm sure some people that are new to Kaisers or even playing around with custom rom's and radios will find this useful

GSLEON3 said:
This week I have also seen several bricks from people thinking they could just disect & rebuil the existing Diamond ROM. Don't do it people. There are too many issues & differences to think you can easily interchange these radios & roms.
Flash Smart, Flash safe & leave the investigation of these things to the true Hero's of this community.
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Stock- RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05 should be intresting for those who want to have a go @ it.

Sorry for such a noobs question, but how about the already used and popular Radio ROMs from Nikis, Neons, Sednas and whatnots?
Are they also dangerous, even when it doesn't show any effect to our devices yet?
The reason I ask this because I currently used the 1.58.25.17 from Neon, at least that what I heard.
Or your point is only for any newer Radio version which not yet tested? If that's the case, I could not more agree.
Cheers!

schizo said:
Sorry for such a noobs question, but how about the already used and popular Radio ROMs from Nikis, Neons, Sednas and whatnots?
Are they also dangerous, even when it doesn't show any effect to our devices yet?
The reason I ask this because I currently used the 1.58.25.17 from Neon, at least that what I heard.
Or your point is only for any newer Radio version which not yet tested? If that's the case, I could not more agree.
Cheers!
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I belive he is refering to the one who is porting and as you said using "untested" radios. Radio`s you find ie. in ultimate radio tread are tested and confirmed working. This is a heads up for hackers`n dev`s

Thanks for the info

I take my hat off and respectfully bow in your general direction Sir.
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A great post sir and one I hope all will read!!
How I wish that info like this and other very important postings be placed on an XDA DEVELOPERS entrance front page which MUST be read by new and not so new members before entering the site.
Hope that makes sense.
For the above info, once again it is invaluable and priceless. I for one would only ever concider using items on my Kaiser that I knew were fully tested, checked and packed by known sparks, chefs. I learnt my lessons of "I-know-best-and-I-can-always-fix-it....opppss" during my BlueAngel days.
Besides, like many on here...I love my Kaiser too much to put her in danger of an early grave or cause any pain

Completely agreed. A warning is indeed needed.
Sticky +1

great post! thanks for this information

mbarvian,
on a completely unrelated note, where is your avatar from?
Looks nice.

adem_7 said:
mbarvian,
on a completely unrelated note, where is your avatar from?
Looks nice.
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The filename is master-chief2.jpg. After a bit of googleing, it turns out it's Halo.
Ta
Dave

Sound advice, everyone pay attention!

what if someone was to do this (even after signing the radio as Kaiser's)?
i just did it to my phone? do u know how I can recover it?
i know it was stupid

I propose inserting this lthread's link into the Ultimate Radio with brief explanation, and also flashing for noobs' thread. I'm a noob, and have been greatly helped by reading out those stickies.
Great Warning requires prominent display
PS: Mbarvian, how's your Kaiser's revival?

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It's likely the ROM dump or "leak" you received is not for the Magician, but for the Himalaya or another device. Attempting to flash it onto a different hardware device may result in a Houdini... also known as a dead Magician.
Why would someone on this forum help someone who wouldnt help us. If you have a Rom Share it.
Re: I've got hold of a copy of WM5
sporkguy said:
now before you all flame me... yes I've read the top sticky post about it not being available for the Magician....
HOWEVER!
I've got in my possession a copy of the latest leak of WM5 (sorry i aint gonna post it) - if I follow the rom upgrade procedure which I've done many a time to put bigstorage on there... would it work?
and if it all goes wrong, would I still be able to put my old backup rom on there? (I take it upgrading to WM5 shouldnt affect the bootloader)
Thanks in advance guys
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Hi,
I think it's for the better if you share the rom, and let the team work get you the right way to flash this device!
Unless you want to end up with a dead device!
Anyway, I'm not interested in this rom bcz I don't own a magician and never liked to. But the main idea if you'd be sharing, am sure you'll be happy as the other ppl in here in which they used the Himalaya's rom and made major updates to it, Thanks to Buzz, and the others whom worked hard to dump it!
It's your choice, I believe you'll be taking the right decisions in order to let the team work to be done on the right track.
Good Luck
Hi:
I think the guys are right! Please share!
I have a rom for the himalaya and if someone wants it please tell me and i will share! (i think it was also released in this forum so it is available to everebody). Mine was downloaded from a ftp that i found by "accident"!!
Another advice, don't try to flash it, if not completly sure that is for the magician.. If it isn't they are right, you will kill your magician!
Cheers
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Can you show us pictures of it in use? or even better a video of it in use?
I have X and it is brilliant.
Prove it by sharing it.
No! I won't but I still have it!!!!!
I thought that the Grimm Brothers were dead???????????????
expel this herb. Wheres the mod? lets ban this liar
I have a full working copy of windows xp professional working on my xda 1, it interfaces directly with a food mixer, fridge and cooker, downloads recipes and cooks a meal automatically. It comes as a kit, the rom and a usb splitter lead, it also gives broadband internet and sky tv free for life.
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Like I said, I'm not sharing it.
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Like I said, I'm not sharing it.
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and we should help you because....**** head
hey man...
am wondering what were u thinking by coming to a forum where everyone share everything,just to help each other,and say I DON'T WANNA SHARE IT,NA NA NA,DON'T BEG FOR IT,NA NA NA,I WON'T..... :x
aren't u finding it a little bit childish what ur doing....so man:eather u give it to the techs in this forum and let them work on it....or go for it and fry your phone(i would b happy to hear that :twisted: )
BTW,i don't and won't have a Magician,but its good to see Magician owners in the world benefiting of the magneto on their devices....and remember that u ll be the famous godfather of Magneto on Magician,at least in this forum,if not all over the world :wink:
so think twise man,the ball is in your court
RAGO :lol:
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sporkguy said:
Like I said, I'm not sharing it.
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and we should help you because....**** head
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Looks like you hit the **** on the head with this one.
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Like I said, I'm not sharing it.
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Here was everyone help everyone ,and everyone share with everyone,so we can help each others, as you said you don't want to share with us and want us help you ? remember one thing whatever you pay whatever you get , let ask you why you come here ?
what can i do for this...?
now i am applying for free magician from our telco...hopefully end of this month...
btw i got a 5110i loaded with wm5....But i didn't want to share it...
[[email protected]]
but hang up at splash image...
hahaha...sorry its a joke...
jojo
Pull the other one ..it plays jingle bell.............................but i not sharing......
Can I say something terrible? I don't believe WM5 will ever be fitted to the Magician!
Why? Because the OS is fully developed by now. This means that there is no point in beta testing the OS on the Magician, because it is already RTM. And since new devices with WM5 preinstalled will soon be hitting the market, it would make much more sense spending the developement money on them.
The only reason to make a new OS run on old hardware, is if you have no alternative, ie no newer/better hardware. Since clearly that is no longer the case, I doubt that WM5 will ever run on the Magician, even behind the scene.
Hope I am wrong, but I doubt it...
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As for the author of this thread, my bet is that he just stumbled across usenet and found a WM5 ROM. Not knowing for which device it was intended, he came here for help. Still thinking that no one else knows of usenet and he struck gold, he's not willing to share.
But think about this: if your contacts are good enough for you to get your hands on WM5, which NO ONE else has been able to, surely they can help you install it too?
Hey man, just go home and enjoy your dead Magician. I could not believe that someone who dont even know how to flash the OS could have the latest WM2005 for Magician which none of the experts here found it so far. I bet you have either WM2005 for other PDA or you have nothing!!!
I don't care if he actually did have a working Windows Mobile 5.0 ROM for the Magician. His attitude and selfishness makes him a first-rate prick - who'd be in their right mind to step forward and assist someone who has no intention of sharing with the community?
Everything here we've done, we've done for the interest of our fellow HTC device owners, from hacking and splicing up the ROMs in the PDA2k to enabling Voice Command over Bluetooth on the Magician, to getting WM5 to run on the Himalaya. All because we've shared and pooled our resources.
With a childish comment like, "Like I said, I'm not sharing it," this thread is no more useful than the bots that post porn advertisements or something that would be in the off-topic/joke section.
Let's go back to the sticky I made and wait for a real Messiah.

¿? Fastest ROM for Kaiser (TYTN II with 3.5G and Videocall)

First of all, thank to all developers and rom coockers that are in the forum, and to the forum itself, you people are one of the best, most serious, controlled, "in topic", smart, organized, easy to read and understand forum all over the net.
I was in the forum for a time now, but i usually dont post, cause i think i don't have any useful to say, and then this is not something useful, it's a question
That question:
I have not yet modify the rom from my kaiser, i have the Vodafone 1615 original spanish rom.
I was reading some about roms since the topic about ati drivers was open (that's not about ATI drivers!!! ) and even yet i don't have any idea about what is the best and fastest ROM for the Kaiser, i think it is one of the roms from Dutty, but there is no benchmark in some roms, then i cannot know what is the best rom.
Also i have another question, it's a bit noob, but that question have a reason to be, i use my kaiser mainly for work, and i cannot let my kaiser to be bricked because there is so much is in game, so, thats the question:
There is any risk installing the HardSPL?
and then:
There is any risk upgrading the ROM when i intalled the HardSPL?
I'm not a noob in surfing the forum, and i used the Search function, and googled, but i don't have these points clear enough for daring to install a new ROM.
Thanks to all.
Juan Gea.
Juang3D, your best bet is to read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
Specifically: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Should answer all your questions.
As to which rom is fastest, that all depends... folks experience different things depending on what they install. My suggestion is to try a bunch of different varieties and eventually you'll settle on the one you want.
juang3d, this is nothing personally aimed at you, and if i offend you i truly am deeply sorry, you asked nicely and explained why you asked but my analogy just came to me as i was reading your post and here's what i have to say:
roms are like women. no matter what everyone is going to say that a one woman is better than other women. you can't be told which woman is right for you, you have to date a few and find her, sometimes the first one you find is great but you should still go out there and date a few others just to be sure, you can always go back to your first choice because roms are better than women; even if someone else has your rom you can have it too and you won't get AIDS. but seriously like ChaOConnor said you need to try a few and find your perfect match.
tubaking182 said:
roms are like women. no matter what everyone is going to say that a one woman is better than other women. you can't be told which woman is right for you, you have to date a few and find her, sometimes the first one you find is great but you should still go out there and date a few others just to be sure, you can always go back to your first choice because roms are better than women; even if someone else has your rom you can have it too and you won't get AIDS. but seriously like ChaOConnor said you need to try a few and find your perfect match.
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I totally agree with, and second that analogy. Well done, tubaking182
moonray said:
I totally agree with, and second that analogy. Well done, tubaking182
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thank you very much moonray
I'll actually give a suggestion. Qmobile 1.2. Fastest rom i have tried. Not 6.1 though.
tubaking182 said:
juang3d, this is nothing personally aimed at you, and if i offend you i truly am deeply sorry, you asked nicely and explained why you asked but my analogy just came to me as i was reading your post and here's what i have to say:
roms are like women. no matter what everyone is going to say that a one woman is better than other women. you can't be told which woman is right for you, you have to date a few and find her, sometimes the first one you find is great but you should still go out there and date a few others just to be sure, you can always go back to your first choice because roms are better than women; even if someone else has your rom you can have it too and you won't get AIDS. but seriously like ChaOConnor said you need to try a few and find your perfect match.
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BEST. ANALOGY. EVER.
Thanks to all for your answer.
I saw the links that you gave me ChaOConnor, but i think i'll see again, maybe i did not read carefully, if i'm not comfortable with what i find, i'll ask again, i hope you understand, as i said, Kaiser is VERY important for my work and i must be sure, but thanks for your suggestions, and as i said now, maybe i lost something (it's more than possible hehe) i'll read it again carefully.
For you tubaking182...i TOTALLY agree hehe, i know what a rom is, my question is not about the quality of the soft installed with the rom, is more with the speed of win mobo, in video and in the interface it self, cause, and correct me if i'm wrong, different roms gave differents performances, and i need speed in working, and if i can have speed also in video (even with the eternal problem of "drivers/acceleration") then, better
But as i say...i totally agree with you, as some people say in the forum: +1
hehe
juiceppc i'll see that rom in the same moment that i'm sure to install hard spl and a new rom, i don't care if it's 6.1, if 6.0 is better in speed, then, i prefer 6.0 over 6.1.
Thanks to all for your answers
I know that my post will not add nothing to find the best peformance ROM. I am in the exact same situation as Juang3d. Plus my kaiser OS is in Danish and I need urgently instal a English OS, I need my kaiser to work, and need it to be fast and reliable. I am already 1 week shearching and didnt understud yet wich is the ROM with the best performances. (speed, office,pdf, skype,audio, flash, GPS)
Juan if you find out or create a solid opinion about wich ROM please post. I will do the same.
Or if someone more expert and with empiric experience in this ROM performances questions please enlight hus!!!
tubaking182 said:
even if someone else has your rom you can have it too and you won't get AIDS.
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All i can say to that is LOL.
LOL
that's the best one on the forums )
Juang3d said:
my question is not about the quality of the soft installed with the rom, is more with the speed of win mobo, in video and in the interface it self, cause, and correct me if i'm wrong, different roms gave differents performances, and i need speed in working, and if i can have speed also in video (even with the eternal problem of "drivers/acceleration") then, better
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You'll find each ROM will depend on what you choose to install. Each ROM will interact differently with various radios. It's a bit of trial and error, really. The good thing is, you can flash a new ROM every day if you like. A lot of people like Dutty's ROMs. They are not for me. I love Leo's ROMs. They are not for everyone.
Look at screen shots, flash it (after carefully reading how to do so properly), and see if you like it. If not, try another.
If you have tried all the ROms in this forum
time to roll back to the original HTC Kaiser ship rom lolz... that works the best for me.
TubaKing's analogy rocks!
For the OP- After trying a lot of Roms I found that the ROMeOS (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406346) have been the best for me. They are stable, fast, and error free. I wanted a Lite Rom and for me ROMeOS is the best fit. As stated earlier, it all depends on what you like. That's why there are skinny girls, fat girls, different skin tones, etc. We all like a different kind of girl, keeping with the TubaKing analogy. And we all want different things from our Rom.
As far as messing with your work phone. I would be very cautious about that. If it is not your property I would not get started with all of this modding on my bosses phone. Maybe buy your own and mess with it. Good luck.
atm im using sleuth's. its okay, but im looking for the one that lags least when you slide the keyboard
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atm im using sleuth's. its okay, but im looking for the one that lags least when you slide the keyboard
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Try Romeos. Its the best, fastest & most Stable; yet.

Cab of HTC 'FIX' from new roms?

For new build issues i mentioned an older thread of mine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393062&highlight=revalation
I was just wondering if it were possible for a cab or something to be made tha contains the fixes htc have made to their new roms. As i have trouble with new builds i figured if i could atleast install the fix in an older rom...
bump Bump BUmp BUMp BUMP
Infuruno said:
bump Bump BUmp BUMp BUMP
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I hate to be so obviously stupid...
But - what fix are you hoping you can get a cab of?
What exactly is wrong with your phone?
What exactly problem are you having?
Not that I can help - but I certainly will give it a go if I understand what it is you are having an issue with.
Bill
whk said:
I hate to be so obviously stupid...
But - what fix are you hoping you can get a cab of?
What exactly is wrong with your phone?
What exactly problem are you having?
Not that I can help - but I certainly will give it a go if I understand what it is you are having an issue with.
Bill
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you're not being obviously stupid, there isn't some magic cab that will fix all that ails wm6.1 and the reason that this thread has been ignored thus far is that it is pointless and the question was so badly worded and phrased that nobody figured it was worth wasting time on. oh yeah, and it's not even posted in the right forum as this has nothing to do with rom development.
Infuruno said:
As title says maybe that would be easier to do than heping me with my issue? (this isnt another new thread just an edited asking for help one) .
By the fix i mean what ever makes the official 6.1 roms faster
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I can help - have you still got the original packaging and manuals the Kaiser came with?...........
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you're not being obviously stupid, there isn't some magic cab that will fix all that ails wm6.1 and the reason that this thread has been ignored thus far is that it is pointless and the question was so badly worded and phrased that nobody figured it was worth wasting time on. oh yeah, and it's not even posted in the right forum as this has nothing to do with rom development.
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i am speechless ...but can i talk u into creating a cab that will fix windows in general
Infuruno said:
By the fix i mean what ever makes the official 6.1 roms faster
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I have problems with new builds im talking about the drivers or what ever that htc used to improve the device's performace in the offical 6.1 roms just released.
thesire said:
i am speechless ...but can i talk u into creating a cab that will fix windows in general
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Yeah i'll get right on that. I wonder why nobody ever thought about that before. Genious!!! I think we might be onto something
whk said:
I hate to be so obviously stupid...
But - what fix are you hoping you can get a cab of?
What exactly is wrong with your phone?
What exactly problem are you having?
Not that I can help - but I certainly will give it a go if I understand what it is you are having an issue with.
Bill
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Problem from an older thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393062&highlight=revalation
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skatdawg said:
you're not being obviously stupid, there isn't some magic cab that will fix all that ails wm6.1 and the reason that this thread has been ignored thus far is that it is pointless and the question was so badly worded and phrased that nobody figured it was worth wasting time on. oh yeah, and it's not even posted in the right forum as this has nothing to do with rom development.
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Sorry for not making the original thread unclear i have edited it to make it more understandable i hope at least. Just wonder if i should bump it now or just post a link here.
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not sure if this is what you're looking for
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No its a program cab one you use to install stuff to device i must be unclear about what exactly i want will edit original post in a minute.
Infuruno said:
No its a program cab one you use to install stuff to device i must be unclear about what exactly i want will edit original post in a minute.
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It was a joke, and actually a really funny one
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It was a joke, and actually a really funny one
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Yeah i know, but still i have been know to give unclear information so a joke with a message for me.
Infuruno said:
Yeah i know, but still i have been know to give unclear information so a joke with a message for me.
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The new HTC roms don't have some small changes that can be put into a cab, so what you are asking for doesn't and won't exist is really the point everyone is trying to make. It's not just one thing. If you want the improvements that come with the updated roms, then you're gonna have to flash a new rom. That's the simple, clear, and humorless answer.
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The new HTC roms don't have some small changes that can be put into a cab, so what you are asking for doesn't and won't exist is really the point everyone is trying to make. It's not just one thing. If you want the improvements that come with the updated roms, then you're gonna have to flash a new rom. That's the simple, clear, and humorless answer.
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Which points back to my first post which iv edited to point to a thread explaining why i as much as i want to don't use the new builds. The Problems might sound small but will get to you sooner or later.
Looks like im stuck with low perforance old roms from now on .. Just 12 months left of this contract ... Just....
First to hear no drivers, now i can't even use the fix.
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Problem from an older thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393062&highlight=revalation
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So - you had an "old thread" that did not get you the answer that you wanted - so you created a NEW thread and continue to "bump" it to get a "fix" from someone that has not been released yet? (there are NO DRIVERS and NO faster stuff).
The "faster" that you seek is done by the chefs who cook it just right and THAT is what makes it faster.
I just updated my Tilt today to shogunmark's latest version and it is a big difference for me. It is very nice - I recommend it.
However you will find lot's of other roms that were cooked well and others recommend as well.
You should:
1. read the wiki
2. try installing a new ROM for yourself
3. stop creating lots of threads on the same topic just because you don't get the answer you want as fast as you want.
Bill
bapssystupr3m3 said:
not sure if this is what you're looking for
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hahhha
brilliant
whk said:
So - you had an "old thread" that did not get you the answer that you wanted - so you created a NEW thread and continue to "bump" it to get a "fix" from someone that has not been released yet? (there are NO DRIVERS and NO faster stuff).
The "faster" that you seek is done by the chefs who cook it just right and THAT is what makes it faster.
I just updated my Tilt today to shogunmark's latest version and it is a big difference for me. It is very nice - I recommend it.
However you will find lot's of other roms that were cooked well and others recommend as well.
You should:
1. read the wiki
2. try installing a new ROM for yourself
3. stop creating lots of threads on the same topic just because you don't get the answer you want as fast as you want.
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Old thread was about fixing the problems i have when i DO install new builds. no replies so made a different one this one to ask if ther was a way to boost performace of older roms which i have no problems with using something from the new offical releaces.
The costant bump is because i never seem to hear from the chefs themselves, just random people so can't be sure their comment is trustable as a final word.
I might suggest going back to the basics and re-reading alot of things on how to flash a rom. I did the same thing myself and realized that I wasn't resetting the rom everytime. It IS an important step and makes a BIG difference in the performance of the rom.
As for a cab that includes all the fixes... Not likely to exist. I have never seen a "service pack" or anything similar for Windows Mobile. At least that's what it appears you are asking for. Honestly if you don't like the rom and radio combination you are currently using try changing it up. I've noticed that where I live certain radios burn up battery like nothing. Others work GREAT. Even ones many people in more "metropolitan" areas report work WAY better.
Even after reading your edited original post it still seems to me that your problem may be VERY likely that you are missing SOMETHING when flashing. Either mismatched radios like stated before or not reseting properly. Another thing to look at is whether or not you might be installing something which causes problems.
I hope this leads you in a better direction to help yourself. Good luck man!

With dutty now gone, whose roms are the best? Whose have the graphics drivers?

I always counted on dutty to provide super fast very stable feature packed bug free roms.
Now that he's gone, I'm wondering who in your opinion makes the best roms.
I am especially interested in a rom that uses the diamond's graphics drivers to improve kaiser's performance.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
As with dutty, whose ever roms that I download, I will send a paypal payment for their hard work.
P.S: I really wish that dutty left us behind one final fully optimized completely stable and bug free lite diamond rom, rather than leaving us with an alpha diamond rom that still has some bugs.
Getting in there before the inevitable "Use the search"/"ROMs are an individual choice" replies.....
I personally can't get enough of L26's ROMs at present, esp V9. Very fast, very stable (in my experience).
Not sure that any ROMs are using the Diamond's graphics drivers to any great effect yet, but if anyone is likely to do so, it will be Laurentius26.
Loving the Garmin one I'm using right now, pretty fast and stable! My opinion obviously and yours may differ. Leo is always good as well. (L26 that is)
We need to get GXMarks for all the roms haha. Anyone willing to spend one boring afternoon flashing and doing GXmark tests for all of the new ones?
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We need to get GXMarks for all the roms haha. Anyone willing to spend one boring afternoon flashing and doing GXmark tests for all of the new ones?
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It seems to me that a lot of people now do not trust any of the Benchmarking tools. There are a lot of 1588 scores if you know what I mean.
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P.S: I really wish that dutty left us behind one final fully optimized completely stable and bug free lite diamond rom, rather than leaving us with an alpha diamond rom that still has some bugs.
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yeah it must really suck to get FREE ROMs from somebody who spends hours making them.
Yeah that really sucks...to have about 50 other ROMs to try as well.
Jon Stewart said:
I always counted on dutty to provide super fast very stable feature packed bug free roms.
Now that he's gone, I'm wondering who in your opinion makes the best roms.
I am especially interested in a rom that uses the diamond's graphics drivers to improve kaiser's performance.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
As with dutty, whose ever roms that I download, I will send a paypal payment for their hard work.
P.S: I really wish that dutty left us behind one final fully optimized completely stable and bug free lite diamond rom, rather than leaving us with an alpha diamond rom that still has some bugs.
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Well to begin, even before dutty left there was still much debate as to which roms were the best. (to be clear, i am an avid supporter of dutty's roms. Just trying to be objective) Every rom seems to have some compatiblity issues with certain software, seems like fixing one problem creates another. There are several fantastic roms out right now. It readlly just depends on what you're looking for. I happen to like Garmin's new diamond rom and Shogun's death roms the best.
Now for the less fun part. A thread just like this was closed yesterday, and it seems like at least once a week, and in this case once a day we're having "what's the best rom" threads created in the rom development forum. Now i am not opposed to a thread like this existing, even though i think they're kind of a waste of space. I just think it should be in the general forum. This isn't the "anything and everything about roms" forum; it is the rom DEVELOPMENT forum. So I am asking you very politely to please post in the correct forums, as is the policy at XDA.
Here's another vote for the L26 roms, they're amazing.
And Dutty did (arguably) leave us with a very quick, reliable, and stable rom - it just doesn't have any of the Diamond goodies in it.
[Apr 29]Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700
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So I am asking you very politely to please post in the correct forums, as is the policy at XDA.
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Speaking of XDA Policy.
Redundant thread. Now closed.
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yeah it must really suck to get FREE ROMs from somebody who spends hours making them.
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Is everybody taking mean pills today? The kid said he donated...
AllTheWay said:
yeah it must really suck to get FREE ROMs from somebody who spends hours making them.
Yeah that really sucks...to have about 50 other ROMs to try as well.
Hey I got an idea. Pick up an iphone. Tell me how many ROMs you can put on that.
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That's a great point! I will rabbit trail it here for a minute...I HATE when people compare WM to the OS for the Iphone! It is a completely unfair comparison. The OS for the Iphone runs on ONE set of hardware. How many different sets of hardware configuration does WM support? I'm pretty sure it's a lot more than one. Plus developers don't have to go beg microsoft to let their software run on people's phone.

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I think more emphasis should be made on the Rooting side of things, as apposed to Rom recommendations. Great idea, maybe could be made into a sticky, in the Q&A Forum.
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Considering this is meant to be an easy-to-follow and 'noob friendly' thread, how would you suggest I put more emphasis on the rooting side of things? I'm open to the idea, but I feel the end result deserves more attention than the process.
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I never doubted that, all I'm saying is, there is no need for Rom recommendations. I am all for a easy to use guide, but why target a few specific Roms, based on personal recommendations? This idea surely would be better as a Root and flashing guide for "Noobs", only? Just feel you're opening a can of worms and will get bombarded with rom questions also.
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That's a possibility. It's what I've been asked to do, I'm not one to argue. Thanks for the feedback!
Care to post on http://noobguides.com?
Stay tuned. Less drama. More meat.
what makes you thin that android revolution and so on are the best ?did you try rcmix3D roms ? did you flash virtuous roms ? with my due respect best rom is subjectif so , please either post all our favourite roms or dont do it at all
how to install android SDK + ADB plug in
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Howto:_Install_the_Android_SDK#Windows
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If the above method mentioned does not work.
My method has worked for quite some time now, and is a pretty decent alternate where other one click type methods dont work.
and still works, on newer builds other than the ones mentioned. GL
JSLEnterprises said:
If the above method mentioned does not work.
My method has worked for quite some time now, and is a pretty decent alternate where other one click type methods dont work.
and still works, on newer builds other than the ones mentioned. GL
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JSL - With attn1 removing his hack kit and support - would you be willing to open a thread on the Inspire forum linking to your kit? I know there are a bunch of users there that would love to see it.
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JSL - With attn1 removing his hack kit and support - would you be willing to open a thread on the Inspire forum linking to your kit? I know there are a bunch of users there that would love to see it.
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Seeing as how Sam's thread is stickied, The link to it is best here.
I made my 'method' for users of Driphter.com as I am a staff member there.
Its available to anyone and everyone though without membership or signing up.
Its been around for quite a long time and I dont plan on removing it any time (nor does the site owner) (and once in a while will get updated if need be)
So it can just remain a Link in the sticky
And if someone cant get a working gold card... the 'line of code' mentioned in cyan within the faq, is around on the 5th page (if I remember correctly).
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Seeing as how Sam's thread is stickied, The link to it is best here.
I made my 'method' for users of Driphter.com as I am a staff member there.
Its available to anyone and everyone though without membership or signing up.
Its been around for quite a long time and I dont plan on removing it any time (nor does the site owner) (and once in a while will get updated if need be)
So it can just remain a Link in the sticky
And if someone cant get a working gold card... the 'line of code' mentioned in cyan within the faq, is around on the 5th page (if I remember correctly).
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Cool cool - sounds like you don't mind if we link to your thread on Driphter then? I just don't want to step on anyone's toes...obviously that was done to a point that can't be recovered from once already...
A lot of Inspire owners never venture to the DHD forum..
Hello,
i want to root my Desire HD
My desire HD was shipped with android 2.2 and now im running android 2.3.3
is it save to use this tool?
and do i have to downgrade anything?
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Cool cool - sounds like you don't mind if we link to your thread on Driphter then? I just don't want to step on anyone's toes...obviously that was done to a point that can't be recovered from once already...
A lot of Inspire owners never venture to the DHD forum..
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I noticed that... the only thing different between the two devices is the audio codec and the housing saying "AT&T" rather than "HTC" and maybe the digitizer manufacturer (depends on when the device was manufactured)
I put together my little method because none of the way's for regular dhd's (PD9810000's) were working on my 'telus' based DHD (PD9814000) - unbranded Inspire 4g - basically, non 'at&t' branded DHD that uses 850/1900mhz bands. So it should work fine for Inspire users (PD9812000).
If it was ment to be for Dcom users only, it would be for vip members only. But then that would have defeated the purpose of open source.
The scrips are simple, and easily modified it need be. There's no reason in my eyes to make things complicated. Everything is cookie cutter.
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I noticed that... the only thing different between the two devices is the audio codec and the housing saying "AT&T" rather than "HTC" and maybe the digitizer manufacturer (depends on when the device was manufactured)
I put together my little method because none of the way's for regular dhd's (PD9810000's) were working on my 'telus' based DHD (PD9814000) - unbranded Inspire 4g - basically, non 'at&t' branded DHD that uses 850/1900mhz bands. So it should work fine for Inspire users (PD9812000).
If it was ment to be for Dcom users only, it would be for vip members only. But then that would have defeated the purpose of open source.
The scrips are simple, and easily modified it need be. There's no reason in my eyes to make things complicated. Everything is cookie cutter.
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The BIG ****ing monkey wrench in that paradigm is that Windows PCs are rampant with all manner of (legitimate or not) programs hijacking the USB bus and wreaking havoc with anything that needs a clean pipe to the device (i.e. the hack kit with both adb and fastboot). 99.9% of all the problems we dealt/deal with on the IRC channel were/are because of this.
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The BIG fugging monkey wrench in that paradigm is that Windows PCs are rampant with all manner of (legitimate or not) programs hijacking the USB bus and wreaking havoc with anything that needs a clean pipe to the device (i.e. the hack kit with both adb and fastboot). 99.9% of all the problems we dealt/deal with on the IRC channel were/are because of this.
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At that point its not the fault of the script/method being used. I simply tell the person to use another computer if their own is fubar; at that point its out of your hands, nor should they recieve help if their system is full of garbage apps/malware/trojans/multiple ****ty antivirus apps like AVG/Avast or the McAfee Free Scan or both.
Unless you plan to keep it updated, and add a few more of the standard roms like MIUI variants and Virtuous, I think a 'ROMS' section is a bad idea. It takes a lot of maintenance, and otherwise becomes misleading quickly.
ivolol said:
Unless you plan to keep it updated, and add a few more of the standard roms like MIUI variants and Virtuous, I think a 'ROMS' section is a bad idea. It takes a lot of maintenance, and otherwise becomes misleading quickly.
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Thank you for the feedback on that section. I will bring this up with the admin.
To help you with a ROM section - you could keep an eye on my site. I keep an up-to-date ROM list for the HTC Desire HD. There are also a few ROM screenshots of a couple of ROMs, to give newcomers an idea of the visual potential differences when changing ROMs.
EDIT: (I'll also add this thread to the XDA Guides section when it's done.)

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