Greetings !
After evaluating my options, I decided to go with HTC FUZE a week ago. So far I find that the phone is one of the most feature rich phones in the market.
However, slide out keyboard and small screens are two big cons for me.
I was wondering why there is such a big "cooked ROM" community only for HTC and not for other Win Mobiles, like Samsung or Moto ?
One tends to think the HTC company could be sponsering sites such as this as a marketting tool . Am I crazy to think in those terms ?
why only windows mobile phone why not all phones?
a private website where one have to pay for space
and pay for how much presure is being put on by many users
limitations have to be considered
guess one reason why htc is picked is because much tools and such can be reused
and roms and how they are flashed don't differ as much as other phones which also
use wm but use a whole different way to flash and how the whole memorymap of the rom is made
Maybe im wrong, but if you check the name of the site
XDA-Developers
then you may work out the reason.
Back in the day when everyone was happy to do stuff for free this site accomodated the XDA brand of PDA phones, these were obviously O2 branded devices, at the time O2 only used HTC devices for its XDA line
Hence the reason for a massive HTC based community.
There are other devices that are supported on here to a degree but I am curious as to what defines a device thats is supported, because generally speaking you are right, they are HTC based devices.
This will be moved to the General section.
Oh no... this question again and again...
Please READ and SEARCH, and you´ll find why THIS SITE IS HTC DEVICES ONLY
As easy as READ the main page
orb3000 said:
Oh no... this question again and again...
Please READ and SEARCH, and you´ll find why THIS SITE IS HTC DEVICES ONLY
As easy as READ the main page
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remember orb hes asking a question for uriosity he not doing the usual and saying i want a forum for x phone
and ive seen one guy demend to know why the wont do htc
at least this guy is asking nicely and in a nice tone
jayjay8585 said:
remember orb hes asking a question for uriosity he not doing the usual and saying i want a forum for x phone
and ive seen one guy demend to know why the wont do htc
at least this guy is asking nicely and in a nice tone
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Youre right mate good point here,
here check it out funny opening and answer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=473375
Well, as rightly pointed out above, I am curious above all.
I am curious as to why significant amount of effort is directed at HTC phones only..
Honestly, cooked roms and this site are only two reasons that is keeping me from returning the phone and getting a Samsung.
orb3000 said:
Oh no... this question again and again...
Please READ and SEARCH, and you´ll find why THIS SITE IS HTC DEVICES ONLY
As easy as READ the main page
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calmate.
lol.
I am curious however, at what point did "XDA" - Developers decide not to support all the WM XDA devices, im not faning any flames or anything im just intrested in knowing when this decision was made, after all the site does suggest it was originally for XDA branded devices otherwise it might have been HTC-Developers so at some point during its growth the decision was made not to support other devices.
More intrestingly since the XDA Zest was only released a few months ago it would have been at a time when as far as i'm aware all XDA devices were HTC anyway so the name justification would have standed....
Just curious...
The HTC gives money to host this, and stuff to do roms, just so HTC had a huge advantage over Samsung or others. My little conspiracy theory.
@ Dazza9075: from the beginning
@sala91: didn't the docter prescribed Xanax to you? Please take your medicine.
Another "why no other phone" thread...
For answers: use the search button, or read the first line of text on the frontpage.
Related
I think i speak for many other users out there, there has been a topic about this already but has been lost in the depths of the "general" forum.
I think it's time for this site to support us HTC S640 (Iris) users and make us a forum please.
This is a site devoted to HTC phones, why not include this one as well?
our phones are quite similar to other smartphones, but it would be nice for a place that WE can hang out in
If anyone is with me, keep this thread alive
I'm hoping there are others who agree with me as well!!!!
give is a forum pretty please
It appears they are as willing and just as slow as HTC is for developing fixes for things... This phone is weeks old already.
freshjiva said:
It appears they are as willing and just as slow as HTC is for developing fixes for things... This phone is weeks old already.
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hahah this phone is 5 months old and still no forum!
there's no hope for us
BUMP!
The Iris is (obviously) just a natural progression from the S620/S630. Great phone, with more ROM, thus more opportunity for modification. I'd love to see the Iris acknowledged as a legitimate part of the HTC family. I used ROMs from this site on my PPC-6700/Apache and they worked great & allowed all sorts of extra/new functionality that was limited by the stale OS that it was shipped with.
I'd be interested in seeing what could be done about the lack of network file share support in the particular version of WM6 these smartphones come with. It would be great to be able to stream music/movies/etc across my WLAN like I used to with my 6700.
orb.com works great.
trendless said:
I'd love to see the Iris acknowledged as a legitimate part of the HTC family.
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seems as if this phone is the "redheaded stepchild"... no love from anyone.
bump... any chance of this forum being created?
It's crap XDA is supporting this phone - it's a cool lil gadget.
I was just wondering...and have wondered loud with this thread.
I have been a member of this forum for couple of years now and have gained immensely from the good guys who are ready to develop stuff. But I now have 2 iphones. 3g and 3gs which is my main phone now, (although still have WM Athena ). And me too, its becoming increasingly the case that I find myself looking elswhere for support, just feel strange as I've always ever come to xda-developers to get what-the-manufacturers-left-out. also I just read a post from Confucious on Athena forum saying that he has not come here for a while because he's busy with iphone forums.
I just was going to suggest an iphone-developers.com to xda-developers, before I do that, I decided to type it in the browser, guess what happened? it led back to xda-developers.com, so is something cooking, are we to expect a separate part of this site for iphone soon?
Waiting!!!!!!
feyisetan said:
I was just wondering...and have wondered loud with this thread.
I have been a member of this forum for couple of years now and have gained immensely from the good guys who are ready to develop stuff. But I now have 2 iphones. 3g and 3gs which is my main phone now, (although still have WM Athena ). And me too, its becoming increasingly the case that I find myself looking elswhere for support, just feel strange as I've always ever come to xda-developers to get what-the-manufacturers-left-out. also I just read a post from Confucious on Athena forum saying that he has not come here for a while because he's busy with iphone forums.
I just was going to suggest an iphone-developers.com to xda-developers, before I do that, I decided to type it in the browser, guess what happened? it led back to xda-developers.com, so is something cooking, are we to expect a separate part of this site for iphone soon?
Waiting!!!!!!
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Go to the apple forums.
Try modmyi.com.
It is an excellent support site for tweaks, software support, application requests, and technical tips sharing.
What he mean is that if You typ in browser www.iphone-developers.com it actually opens www.xda-developers.com
They'll need to buy an HTC to access the site.
:screaming::screaming::screaming::screaming:
I can t believe what I´m reading!!!
Yeah I cringe at the thought, I don't like iPhone mixing with anything similar to (HTC) Windows Mobile's GSM pride & joy...
Let them hang with the jailbreakers...
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Spiaatie said:
What he mean is that if You typ in browser www.iphone-developers.com it actually opens www.xda-developers.com
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Yes, I meant when you type in www.iphone-developers.com you find yourself at xda-developers.com, if there is no intention to support iphone, why register the domain for it? that's why I think something might be cooking.
And so that I am not misunderstood, I still love my WM devices...used about 10 of them in the past 7 years. But boy! did iphone spring a surprise? the ease of use, the interface, the apps...the apps!
But I still love my WM devices.
Interesting. Perhaps the work of a typical iPhone hater and WM/HTC fanatic?
A sign of the Apocalypse?
awesome!
now all we need is
www.everythingelse-developers.com
Try WHOIS the domain(s) and check the reg. date also..
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Try WHOIS the domain(s) and check the reg. date also..
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same owners as XDA
http://whois.domaintools.com/iphone-developers.com
http://whois.domaintools.com/xda-developers.com
same server even
http://www.domaintools.com/reverse-ip/?hostname=iphone-developers.com
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[URL]http://whois.domaintools.com/iphone-developers.com[/URL]
[URL]http://whois.domaintools.com/xda-developers.com[/URL]
same server even
[URL]http://www.domaintools.com/reverse-ip/?hostname=iphone-developers.com[/URL]
I would also like to see forums for non HTC WM devices.
Stupid that they don't exist already!
There are plenty forums for non HTC devices, here one example:
winmodevs
On this site, as stated countless times before, there won´t be any special section for non HTC devices!, that´s the Admin position wich I support.
orb3000 said:
There are plenty forums for non HTC devices, here one example:
winmodevs
On this site, as stated countless times before, there won´t be any special section for non HTC devices!, that´s the Admin position wich I support.
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seems to be evidence that this may not always be the case.
having more sections won't hurt anybody. just pretend they don't exist.
crazy talk said:
seems to be evidence that this may not always be the case.
having more sections won't hurt anybody. just pretend they don't exist.
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More sections = more visitors = more site traffic = more load on currently overtaxed servers.
I open this petition to collect more "YES" possible so that HTC will unlock Sensation's boot lader.
SO, COME ON, VOTE YES!!! IMPORTANT: THIS PETITION WILL BE SENT TO HTC!
euplio said:
I open this petion to collect more "yes" possibile so that HTC will unlock Sensation's bootlader.
SO, COME ON, VOTE YES!!! IMPORTANT: THIS PETION WILL BE SENT TO HTC !
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am a newbie to the android, and i don't know what do u mean by petion..
does this thead mean i just have to reply and say yes?
i really hope the htc to unlock the bootloader, but really doubt about it.
bioheart said:
am a newbie to the android, and i don't know what do u mean by petion..
does this thead mean i just have to reply and say yes?
i really hope the htc to unlock the bootloader, but really doubt about it.
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This is a petition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petition. You have have to vote yes and if do you want (not required) reply in the thread, btw thank you to vote "YES".
Yes
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Yes unlock Sensation Bootloader.
yes unlock bootloader... but this will not help... what will really make htc unlock their bootloader is if we boycott them and say we will not buy the sensation at all if its locked and convince others not to buy it... but its a longshot so i vote yes
Ofcourse Yes!
Yes unlockable.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA Premium App
Htc won't be looking at this, so what exactly is the point of this thread?
Like anyone gonna vote no lols
o0ps!.. I had some wine while watching a game this morning and I accidently clicked on locked, anyway to revert my answer? my apoligies..
Remeber the petion made for the ATI drivers? absolutely no use!!
http://www.htcclassaction.org/
And that was for phones already sold & HTC was still in its beginings as the "HTC" brand outside the umberella.
ceroglu said:
o0ps!.. I had some wine while watching a game this morning and I accidently clicked on locked, anyway to revert my answer? my apoligies..
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Sorry it's not possibile for me, we must ask for a moderator to change it
I doubt this is the best way to make a petition. Can't we make a petition on Petitiononline.com or something? We would reach a wider audience and get more signatures. We could send it to Android and tech related websites for people to sign. So we can make a more powerful statement to HTC and maybe also Motorola that the public wants to have the choice to do whatever they want with their devices.
BeelzeM said:
I doubt this is the best way to make a petition. Can't we make a petition on Petitiononline.com or something? We would reach a wider audience and get more signatures. We could send it to Android and tech related websites for people to sign. So we can make a more powerful statement to HTC and maybe also Motorola that the public wants to have the choice to do whatever they want with their devices.
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XDA now have 3,878,020 REGISTERED USERS and is a worldwide site, a reference point for a lot of developers and useres. This is the best way!
euplio said:
XDA now have 3,878,020 REGISTERED USERS and is a worldwide site, a reference point for a lot of developers and useres. This is the best way!
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Agreed, but the threads in this Sensation section aren't getting many hits. I'd say ask moderators for a petition on the homepage or something that catches more eyes than here.
But great idea, I was waiting for someone to start a petition. Keep up the good work! Let's maximize the potential of this petition!
I agree that the use of a petition web site outside of XDA would be useful. Not everyone who would want to vote is a registered XDA member and I'm not the type of person to be inclined to register somewhere just to cast a vote.
Now, if you were to use something like Facebook... I'm sure you'll get more votes there. Plus, other web sites probably wouldn't have a problem linking to it from their web sites (Android Central, Phandroid, Engadget, etc.).
BeelzeM said:
Agreed, but the threads in this Sensation section aren't getting many hits. I'd say ask moderators for a petition on the homepage or something that catches more eyes than here.
But great idea, I was waiting for someone to start a petition. Keep up the good work! Let's maximize the potential of this petition!
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I asked moderators to make an article in fisrt page, hope they accept...
wont buy a locked sensation
this device sounds like the promise of the year,
but i wont think about buying it till i see the development threads filling with custom ROMs .
i love HTC hardware , but i hate the sense !!!!! and although the sense3 looks better it will still be far behind Cyanogen mods, performance wise .
and as a HERO owner ( hopping soon to be ex ) i know how HTC neglects the old devices . had 1.5, HTC promised 1.6 and then they promised 2.0, and finally when i got 2.1, everyone already had froyo. ahh
I dont want to see their stupid flipclock weather thing ever again
bottom line is:
only when HTC sensation will run CM7 ill buy it..
Why is it locked in the first place? Noobs won't know what bootloader is and so won't be messing up their phones and people like us who mod our phones know what we are doing (or at least think we do) and so won't mess up our phones anyway... Having it unlocked just saves us the time of having to hack it to unlock. Really don't see what they achieve??!?
116 (yes) is better than 5 (not) but I want to know who voted not?
If you don't like Sensation just don't vote... (samsung fans)...
Since original thread was closed (just as I said it would even without a good reason) as I was typing answer below
I feel obliged to answer it here
Well, looks like it is. Any criticism of xda is not tolerated here, and this thread will lead to criticism.
If you still care for my opinion...
No, sharing is not xda spirit anymore, well at least not for some people. Popularity and donations is, by the looks of it.
I do not say that this applies to everyone, only to certain people, and it looks like xda supports it in general.
And members cannot express their view if their view goes against what xda likes to hear.
SOPA anyone?
Just saying
If you decide to post something in this thread, please consider that there should be no flaming, profanities etc, so xda does not have good grounds to close it.
matmar said:
Members can express their view and i do not think it is pointless or against xda rules...it is ? If yes i apologize by advance....
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium
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....sigh....
Well, for me it's another sad sad day for XDA.
I'm "really" thinking HTC should step in, collect THEIR assets once and for all.
This is never going to stop this way. This was (yes was) a sharing community, and honestly is doesn't feel like a community anymore.
For me, and I regret to say this, the only real solution for this is when HTC relocks their bootloaders so custom roms become a thing from history.
There's just too much showing off, whining this, whining that and all other crap going on.
And really what is the point??
We are all in the same boat, wanting the exact same thing!
I just cannot understand this.
We buy HTC especially for this line of "work".
People should think twice or even five times before letting their d... deside.
Anyway, my 2 cents (IC's )
Lol, you should have known it would happen.
Peeps, let's keep it social here.
conantroutman said:
....sigh....
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conantroutman said:
....sigh....
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sigh is right! We're all sighing!
tinky1 said:
Since original thread was closed (just as I said it would even without a good reason) as I was typing answer below
I feel obliged to answer it here
Well, looks like it is. Any criticism of xda is not tolerated here, and this thread will lead to criticism.
If you still care for my opinion...
No, sharing is not xda spirit anymore, well at least not for some people. Popularity and donations is, by the looks of it.
I do not say that this applies to everyone, only to certain people, and it looks like xda supports it in general.
And members cannot express their view if their view goes against what xda likes to hear.
SOPA anyone?
Just saying
If you decide to post something in this thread, please consider that there should be no flaming, profanities etc, so xda does not have good grounds to close it.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
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and this is why I love you tinky. I wnted to voice my own opinion but didn't. You did it for me! for us!
Tinky for president? Which country though
Lol, just lol.
KAwAtA said:
sigh is right! We're all sighing!
and this is why I love you tinky. I wnted to voice my own opinion but didn't. You did it for me! for us!
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Trollville recently outvoted me... perhaps you could replace me
Just sayin'
tinky1 said:
Tinky for president? Which country though
Lol, just lol.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
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tinky1 said:
Since original thread was closed (just as I said it would even without a good reason) as I was typing answer below
I feel obliged to answer it here
Well, looks like it is. Any criticism of xda is not tolerated here, and this thread will lead to criticism.
If you still care for my opinion...
No, sharing is not xda spirit anymore, well at least not for some people. Popularity and donations is, by the looks of it.
I do not say that this applies to everyone, only to certain people, and it looks like xda supports it in general.
And members cannot express their view if their view goes against what xda likes to hear.
SOPA anyone?
Just saying
If you decide to post something in this thread, please consider that there should be no flaming, profanities etc, so xda does not have good grounds to close it.
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The sharing mentality of XDA has not gone away. But it's certainly been reduced in light of WinZip wizards and cocky chefs who think they're God's gift to a device. The heart of this latest flare up is the simple fact that 3 devs refuse to work together or cooperate in any way. We (the moderators) deal with hundreds of reported posts everyday, and quite frankly I pitty the members who allow such infantile sh*t to occur.
Regarding sharing: Just because someone has a source that allows them early access to a file, which has happened since all the way back in WM's days here, they are under zero obligation to share it with anyone else. Most times this can risk exposing the source, which could potentially shut everyone down.
The key difference between then (WM) and now (Android) is that everyone seems to be more concerned with beating everyone else to the release, thereby claiming all the glory and potential donations. Sharing is very much still alive here, but it seems otherwise due to device popularity causing competition as opposed to cooperation. Back when smartphones were reserved for the geeks and otherwise tech savvy people, the community was much smaller, and knew each other on what was sometimes a personal level. We all worked together for a common goal. Don't believe me, have a look around the older sections of XDA, and try to count on more than 1 hand how many chefs/devs ever mention the word donations. Now do the same in the Android areas, and try to find 5 chefs/devs/winzip wizards who don't ask for them.
Ok here's how it is.......
Some of you may not like this but it needs to be said.......
Sharing is and always has been encouraged here on XDA. That said,if someone has a valid reason not to publicly share something, nobody has the right to hold that against them....
The situation we have here is not caused by one single person and is certainly not caused by XDA as a whole, it is not even directly related to the sharing aspect.
What we have here is a situation blown completely out of proportion due to a combination of over inflated egos and petty personal disputes.
First guy said:
"whaaa whaa whaa I want what he's got.........."
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the other guy said:
"boo hoo hoo he said bad things about me "
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third guy said:
"Dude, you should totally troll his thread, oh yeah and the mods are nazis... trololololol"
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There are many many users and developers across the board who need to take a step back from their screen for a second, stuff a hand down the front of their pants to check if there's a set of balls in there....
If there is then they should take that as sign that its time to pull their head out of their arse and stop acting like eight year old girls fighting over a hairbrush...........
This is a development forum. Not a playground. This problem is not specific to the Sensation forums either, it permeates throughout the entire site so do not be surprised when the moderation team take action against a user who has violated the rules of the forum.
That is what we are here to do.
Due to the large number of whiny trolls currently infesting the forums, threads such as this only create drama and bring back the problems we are trying to eliminate. (Whether that was the OP's intention or not)
Nobody on the moderation team has a problem with criticism.
I have many issues with this site. If someone were to tell me I cannot raise them then I would tell them to go **** themselves. However, there is a right way of going about this and a wrong way.
Any user is always welcome to contact a moderator about any concerns they might have. Should you have a problem with a particular moderator then contact a member of the moderator committee or an admin. (a list is in my sig btw)
Contrary to popular belief, the mod team is not some elitist "old boys club" and we do not play favourites. Each and every moderator is expected to adhere to a code of conduct and can expect to be promptly dismissed should they not do so.
That however does not mean that we will not make unpopular decision should the need arise.
/rant
Come On!
I am just plain dissapointed.. I think that the dev should share what they find, after all did they create the base no.... where do they get it? sharing!!! I am leaning away from xda community as of late for reasons revolving around this exact problem!! And now favorite dev for sensation is not here!!
Very, very true. Unfortunately xda seems to prefer to just close thread, give infractions, and try to shut everyone up instead of trying to encourage cooperation. Shall we try to change something here together, as a community?
P. S. Nice to see mods participating in conversation. Maybe(hopefully) it's a beginning of a better relationship?
NotATreoFan said:
The sharing mentality of XDA has not gone away. But it's certainly been reduced in light of WinZip wizards and cocky chefs who think they're God's gift to a device. The heart of this latest flare up is the simple fact that 3 devs refuse to work together or cooperate in any way. We (the moderators) deal with hundreds of reported posts everyday, and quite frankly I pitty the members who allow such infantile sh*t to occur.
Regarding sharing: Just because someone has a source that allows them early access to a file, which has happened since all the way back in WM's days here, they are under zero obligation to share it with anyone else. Most times this can risk exposing the source, which could potentially shut everyone down.
The key difference between then (WM) and now (Android) is that everyone seems to be more concerned with beating everyone else to the release, thereby claiming all the glory and potential donations. Sharing is very much still alive here, but it seems otherwise due to device popularity causing competition as opposed to cooperation. Back when smartphones were reserved for the geeks and otherwise tech savvy people, the community was much smaller, and knew each other on what was sometimes a personal level. We all worked together for a common goal. Don't believe me, have a look around the older sections of XDA, and try to count on more than 1 hand how many chefs/devs ever mention the word donations. Now do the same in the Android areas, and try to find 5 chefs/devs/winzip wizards who don't ask for them.
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I agree with both MTM AND NATF, and since I am one of the oldest members still active here, I can also confirm what NATF just said. We need cooperation between Devs and not pride wars.
Unfortunately this is not the case...
Winzip wizzard here (actually i use total commander but thats another story) - no irony here, if anyone has enough time to search my history on xda he will see i always said i'm cooking i'm not developing.
back to the discussion.
"they are under zero obligation to share it with anyone else. Most times this can risk exposing the source, which could potentially shut everyone down."
yes is true XDA can't make people share their source - 100% agree
risk of exposure ? i doubt is the case ,these test build are leaked with HTC's OK, we do the final beta testing for free . Let's not get into conspiracy theories here.
Is not just 3 devs who have a problem, again if anyone has the time to search xda will see one of the chefs had arguments with a lot more than 2 chefs .
Donations. I personally don't ask for them, i accept them .
As for me, i never wanted to be the 1st, and in the rare moments i had a thing 1st i shared it, i never cared about my thread rating and didn't cry when i got 1 star instead of five and so on. don't believe me ? again use the search .
about sharing, good or bad, 1st or the latest, i always said everyone is free to use what they want and do whatever they want with my zip-mods
IMHO I think XDA uses the term recognized developer far too loosely.
mudhi is a developer, LEEDROiD a developer. Mike1986 has no code knowledge (there was a very heated discussion via PM between him and me about that, I won and he left me.alone eventually) and all "his" mods made by other people. he is not the only one, don't think I say this just to have a go at mike, there are also other but at least baadnewz does do own mods, search back to 2.08 base and his own mod based on the beats audio mod (can't remember the original developer)
these people like mike think a bit of hocus pocus in dsixda kitchen make them developers, IT DOES NOT (IMO)
I say this and many of you will be thinking I am a hypocrite. Ha, I know flash ActionScript, JavaScript, HTML, CSS, tiny bit of PHP, and some java as well as currently learning smali, I came originally from DFG StarMods (where I now have the honour of being one of the admins) which is a flash theme development site for Samsung phones (like tocco lite, star, Monte and the jet)
And another thing, if people make a ROM based on a new leak/release but choose not to share the RUU, then they really have no grounds to complain about kangs because they brought it on themselves by refusing to share. If they share, kangs won't happen so I think it is unfair for baad to have received infraction because it is only human nature for users to want the best, the newest etc
p.s all apk files libs etc from any of our ROMs belong to HTC not the chefs
there are a bit more than beats stuff.
ported amaze camera and album to work on every 2.3.3-2.3.5 sense 3/3.5 rom
when was the 1st leak of android 2.3.4 from Chinese source i was the one who made location / friendstream / stock etc. to work with it and so on
baadnewz said:
there are a bit more than beats stuff.
ported amaze camera and album to work on every 2.3.3-2.3.5 sense 3/3.5 rom
when was the 1st leak of android 2.3.4 from Chinese source i was the one who made location / friendstream / stock etc. to work with it and so on
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I know, I just use beats as example because at the time it was well known
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NotATreoFan said:
The key difference between then (WM) and now (Android) is that everyone seems to be more concerned with beating everyone else to the release, thereby claiming all the glory and potential donations. Sharing is very much still alive here, but it seems otherwise due to device popularity causing competition as opposed to cooperation. Back when smartphones were reserved for the geeks and otherwise tech savvy people, the community was much smaller, and knew each other on what was sometimes a personal level. We all worked together for a common goal. Don't believe me, have a look around the older sections of XDA, and try to count on more than 1 hand how many chefs/devs ever mention the word donations. Now do the same in the Android areas, and try to find 5 chefs/devs/winzip wizards who don't ask for them.
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True, but this isn't platform dependent at all. WinMo ROM development suffered from this too.
Donations make people greedy, some guys just made their rom cooking tenure a part-time job. Nowadays Smartphones became over-popular causing this to be a great money source.
In my personal opinion xda-devs should somehow promote/encourage developers that do not accept donations, make freeware, and release their source code for free.
Jackos said:
True, but this isn't platform dependent at all. WinMo ROM development suffered from this too.
Donations make people greedy, some guys just made their rom cooking tenure a part-time job. Nowadays Smartphones became over-popular causing this to be a great money source.
In my personal opinion xda-devs should somehow promote/encourage developers that do not accept donations, make freeware, and release their source code for free.
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QFT!
Money is the root of most of the problems with XDA these days...
And I can't see that changing unfortunately.
So,are we getting anywhere guys?
Is there a way to encourage sharing somehow?
It just beyond my comprehension that an apple can be given for someone to give a bite to anyone who'd like it, but no one else can take that apple to give a bite. End result is the same in think.
It's not about Mike not sharing when he is told not to share (if that is true, I don't know and not judging him). It's the concept of having something to share but only allowing one person to share it which gets me confused. Why!?
conantroutman said:
QFT!
Money is the root of most of the problems with XDA these days...
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Thank GOD somebody started discussing this! I tried to started, but the thread was closed the second I started it. I will hold my tongue, but you can read between the lines:
Baad
We miss you!
So much that you quarantine it to an inactive iphone dev forums? Apple should just be treated as a normal phone brand. Im not ranting or whatevs but why do you really need to create a separate site for it?
OptimusLove said:
So much that you quarantine it to an inactive iphone dev forums? Apple should just be treated as a normal phone brand. Im not ranting or whatevs but why do you really need to create a separate site for it?
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lol
OptimusLove said:
So much that you quarantine it to an inactive iphone dev forums? Apple should just be treated as a normal phone brand. Im not ranting or whatevs but why do you really need to create a separate site for it?
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iThink (see what I did there? ) it's more to do with the fact that XDA is a 'Windows Phone and Android' development site, plus the iPhone is a completely different device to everything else. You can't flash custom ROMs on it or anything like that, all you can do is jailbreak it (as far as I know).
IB4L.
Seriously, you are asking this question in a non-iPhone forum?
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olyloh6696 said:
IB4L.
Seriously, you are asking this question in a non-iPhone forum?
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Nahhh, its only because most phone manufacturers are listed here except Apple. Sorry if its not allowed.
And my Mommy has an iphone 4 so I could ask questions regarding problems she might encountter.
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Nahhh, its only because most phone manufacturers are listed here except Apple. Sorry if its not allowed.
And my Mommy has an iphone 4 so I could ask questions regarding problems she might encountter.
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If you really want (and if you're slightly crazy) don't consider the iPhone as being in quarantine but as having it's own special place
Nigeldg said:
If you really want (and if you're slightly crazy) don't consider the iPhone as being in quarantine but as having it's own special place
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Good way of looking at it.
Nigeldg said:
If you really want (and if you're slightly crazy) don't consider the iPhone as being in quarantine but as having it's own special place
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Special phone with special needs, should have own special place
Most popular phones include their sections because development is different between them. And, as you can see, IOS has it's own section just like android, wp7 and the others. So I don't see any hate at all, just logically organised forums...
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If I could be so blunt and I don't mean it in a derogatory way, iPhones are not really a smartphone,they are smart to the masses who feel they have to fit in and they are special to the people who make them I suppose. A completely overated device that only lets you do what the makers want you to do, it's a fashion accessory and nothing else.
Every phone listed on this site can do exactly the same and better and the makers believe in letting the consumer decide how they want their phone that they've paid for to behave,power to the people.
IPhones=power to noone except the "brand".
Do I like iPhones?, I can't stick them and credit to xda for banishing them from our site
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If I could be so blunt and I don't mean it in a derogatory way, iPhones are not really a smartphone,they are smart to the masses who feel they have to fit in and they are special to the people who make them I suppose. A completely overated device that only lets you do what the makers want you to do, it's a fashion accessory and nothing else.
Every phone listed on this site can do exactly the same and better and the makers believe in letting the consumer decide how they want their phone that they've paid for to behave,power to the people.
IPhones=power to noone except the "brand".
Do I like iPhones?, I can't stick them and credit to xda for banishing them from our site
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+10 on that, my -exact- opinion which is purely based on my experience. We should hang out
lol, ok guys, i think this one has been answered.
Seriously though, the 'I' devices have their own specific site and their own dedicated sites, why duplicate here? XDA roots are windows mobile and more recently droid and winphone
Thread closed, thanks. (Enjoy iphone devs forum )