So much that you quarantine it to an inactive iphone dev forums? Apple should just be treated as a normal phone brand. Im not ranting or whatevs but why do you really need to create a separate site for it?
OptimusLove said:
So much that you quarantine it to an inactive iphone dev forums? Apple should just be treated as a normal phone brand. Im not ranting or whatevs but why do you really need to create a separate site for it?
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OptimusLove said:
So much that you quarantine it to an inactive iphone dev forums? Apple should just be treated as a normal phone brand. Im not ranting or whatevs but why do you really need to create a separate site for it?
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iThink (see what I did there? ) it's more to do with the fact that XDA is a 'Windows Phone and Android' development site, plus the iPhone is a completely different device to everything else. You can't flash custom ROMs on it or anything like that, all you can do is jailbreak it (as far as I know).
IB4L.
Seriously, you are asking this question in a non-iPhone forum?
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IB4L.
Seriously, you are asking this question in a non-iPhone forum?
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Nahhh, its only because most phone manufacturers are listed here except Apple. Sorry if its not allowed.
And my Mommy has an iphone 4 so I could ask questions regarding problems she might encountter.
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Nahhh, its only because most phone manufacturers are listed here except Apple. Sorry if its not allowed.
And my Mommy has an iphone 4 so I could ask questions regarding problems she might encountter.
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If you really want (and if you're slightly crazy) don't consider the iPhone as being in quarantine but as having it's own special place
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If you really want (and if you're slightly crazy) don't consider the iPhone as being in quarantine but as having it's own special place
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Good way of looking at it.
Nigeldg said:
If you really want (and if you're slightly crazy) don't consider the iPhone as being in quarantine but as having it's own special place
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Special phone with special needs, should have own special place
Most popular phones include their sections because development is different between them. And, as you can see, IOS has it's own section just like android, wp7 and the others. So I don't see any hate at all, just logically organised forums...
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If I could be so blunt and I don't mean it in a derogatory way, iPhones are not really a smartphone,they are smart to the masses who feel they have to fit in and they are special to the people who make them I suppose. A completely overated device that only lets you do what the makers want you to do, it's a fashion accessory and nothing else.
Every phone listed on this site can do exactly the same and better and the makers believe in letting the consumer decide how they want their phone that they've paid for to behave,power to the people.
IPhones=power to noone except the "brand".
Do I like iPhones?, I can't stick them and credit to xda for banishing them from our site
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If I could be so blunt and I don't mean it in a derogatory way, iPhones are not really a smartphone,they are smart to the masses who feel they have to fit in and they are special to the people who make them I suppose. A completely overated device that only lets you do what the makers want you to do, it's a fashion accessory and nothing else.
Every phone listed on this site can do exactly the same and better and the makers believe in letting the consumer decide how they want their phone that they've paid for to behave,power to the people.
IPhones=power to noone except the "brand".
Do I like iPhones?, I can't stick them and credit to xda for banishing them from our site
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+10 on that, my -exact- opinion which is purely based on my experience. We should hang out
lol, ok guys, i think this one has been answered.
Seriously though, the 'I' devices have their own specific site and their own dedicated sites, why duplicate here? XDA roots are windows mobile and more recently droid and winphone
Thread closed, thanks. (Enjoy iphone devs forum )
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Really? I thought xda was for development, not ranting.
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Not recently.
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Really? I thought xda was for development, not ranting.
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have you developed anything for phones to even talk?
(sorry if you have but i dont know you i helped theme/port roms from captivate to VIBRANTS)
your RAVING this phone is that good... (your opinion everyone is entitled to one)
but isnt RANTING/RAVING generally the same idea... (good thoughts or bad)
and dont get me started on "development" on the SGS4G
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have you developed anything for phones to even talk?
(sorry if you have but i dont know you i helped theme/port roms from captivate to VIBRANTS)
your RAVING this phone is that good... (your opinion everyone is entitled to one)
but isnt RANTING/RAVING generally the same idea... (good thoughts or bad)
and dont get me started on "development" on the SGS4G
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It was sarcasm about it being the best phone ever. Obviously every time you buy anything its obsolete with in a matter of days. With that said, what is the point of complaining about it?
As for development, I am and have been working on a rom for this device. Along with a couple other people. The reason its on the hush is because I would rather wait to announced anything about it until its complete. I am not here to argue with anyone. I am here to make this a better phone for me and everyone here. But when I come here to the general section to help others having REAL issues. All I see is back and forth talk about a new device and how much they hate the sgs 4g. If you are unhappy sell it. If you want to rant about it. Start a blog. It just gets old, and I know I am not the only one that feels this way.
Anyways. That's all I have to say.
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It was sarcasm about it being the best phone ever. Obviously every time you buy anything its obsolete with in a matter of days. With that said, what is the point of complaining about it?
As for development, I am and have been working on a rom for this device. Along with a couple other people. The reason its on the hush is because I would rather wait to announced anything about it until its complete. I am not here to argue with anyone. I am here to make this a better phone for me and everyone here. But when I come here to the general section to help others having REAL issues. All I see is back and forth talk about a new device and how much they hate the sgs 4g. If you are unhappy sell it. If you want to rant about it. Start a blog. It just gets old, and I know I am not the only one that feels this way.
Anyways. That's all I have to say.
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I'm with you on this. Tired of this too.
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+1for Bl4ckpheniX.
All these phones have their good points and bad points it's not some sort of contest. I for one like the sgs4g for a whole variety of reasons. If you don't like it I don't give a sh*t.
I'm here to make this phone better, contribute to others who like the sgs4g, and to learn what I can about development for it. Come on people--these are phones not sports teams. If you like a different one go find the forum for it and gtfo of this one.
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It was sarcasm about it being the best phone ever. Obviously every time you buy anything its obsolete with in a matter of days. With that said, what is the point of complaining about it?
As for development, I am and have been working on a rom for this device. Along with a couple other people. The reason its on the hush is because I would rather wait to announced anything about it until its complete. I am not here to argue with anyone. I am here to make this a better phone for me and everyone here. But when I come here to the general section to help others having REAL issues. All I see is back and forth talk about a new device and how much they hate the sgs 4g. If you are unhappy sell it. If you want to rant about it. Start a blog. It just gets old, and I know I am not the only one that feels this way.
Anyways. That's all I have to say.
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so this thread was just too what? (please pick one)
A) grow your e-penis (post count)
B) be a hippocrate and make another useless thread
C) gather all the people that feel the same way and have a cyber circle jerk
D) all of the above
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so this thread was just too what? (please pick one)
A) grow your e-penis (post count)
B) be a hippocrate and make another useless thread
C) gather all the people that feel the same way and have a cyber circle jerk
D) all of the above
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E) Learn how to spell.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hippocrate
Look fella, this post was never directed at anyone in particular. So no need to make it personal.
I am really here to help people and this is a forum for development, not hey this phone blows, this phone is better. If you don't understand that you don't really understand XDA.
This wasn't to raise my post count, most all of my posts are to either help someone that is having an issue, testing for other dev's, or for dev work that i am currently working on.
Tweet from @supercurio!
"I'm porting Voodoo lagfix on T-Mobile #Vibrant #GalaxyS4G thanks to infos given by @Krylon360"
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well i have the inspire im currently running MIUI on here since its pretty similar to iOS but im really wanting to just be able to run iOS on it...is there not some way to do it like the iphone does with android?
before anyone posts and says "why would you want to do that" go ahead and stop yourself i just want to iphone seems to be a simpler system and has better games..so if anyone knos how to go about doing this let me kno
This should be posted in general and will lead to flaming even if that isn't your intent.
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it was posted here because its about the rom? i might still be wrong though...and its not really my fault if people start flaming about wanting iOS on an android.
People won't start flaming because they want it, it'll be just the opposite. It's a question about a rom that isn't in development and doesn't exist It belongs in general.
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Sure sell your inspire and buy an iphone4.
edit: I must ask why? Its not even a good os...
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Sure sell your inspire and buy an iphone4.
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Exactly, why buy an Inspire in the first place if you want ios (which will most likely never happen on our phones).
What in the world....
buy an iphone, problem solved.
Moved to general.
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Exactly, why buy an Inspire in the first place if you want ios (which will most likely never happen on our phones).
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If the Inspire was like an iphone I would have never bought one !!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
Flames aside, most of iOS isn't open source. It's core, Darwin, is but it's ARM port is not. Really, it'd be re-inventing the wheel just to have a BSD-based base instead of a Linux one that already works.
There currently is no way, and probably never will be.
And there's a reason they managed to run Android on an iPhone and no one's tried to run iOS on an Android phone........
Besides, don't you think MIUI beats the pants off iOS? IMO, MIUI says "Hey iPhone. Check this out."
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And there's a reason they managed to run Android on an iPhone and no one's tried to run iOS on an Android phone........
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Open Source vs closed, that's really all it is.
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Open Source vs closed, that's really all it is.
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Oh please. If someone REALLY wanted to, they would. I'm not doubting it would be extremely difficult and/or painstaking, but really..
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Oh please. If someone REALLY wanted to, they would. I'm not doubting it would be extremely difficult and/or painstaking, but really..
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Nope. Without the source even the best minds wouldn't be able to fully port it.
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bliind said:
Oh please. If someone REALLY wanted to, they would. I'm not doubting it would be extremely difficult and/or painstaking, but really..
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Have you ever tried to reverse engineer something that's encrypted? I have... it's not pretty.
Its a great os but too restricted by comparison
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This should be posted in general and will lead to flaming even if that isn't your intent.
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No, this will not lead to flaming. For you to even entertain that idea is ridiculous. That is a poor attitude an violates XDA's Rules and Regs. This BS needs to stop, If you can't guide other members with respect, then don't respond to them. Placing a post in the wrong section should never elicit disrespectful behavior
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Oh please. If someone REALLY wanted to, they would. I'm not doubting it would be extremely difficult and/or painstaking, but really..
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In addition to extremely difficult and/or painstaking, there are legal ramifications to worry about. Apple has a habit of ripping the heads off of people who infringe on their patents/copyrights. Don't think that this board isn't monitored in one way or another. I doubt anyone would want to risk legal action to make a ROM that probably wouldn't be of much interest to the Android community as a whole.
I love Android over iOS for everything, except the lack of 3D games =(.
I would love to have Ace Combat, Metal Gear Solid, etc. on my phone... :/.
Title says it all!
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I wish.
ok so i dont mean to nit pick here & i dont like when i see people get bashed on hard for asking questions but this is kinda like asking if Mcdonalds plans on selling the whopper.
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ok so i dont mean to nit pick here & i dont like when i see people get bashed on hard for asking questions but this is kinda like asking if Mcdonalds plans on selling the whopper.
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I'm sorry, what?? How so? How is this any different than the people who wanted, *and got*, Android ported to their WinMo 6 devices (HD2, Vogue, Touch Pro 1 & 2 etc.)? Those people got their whopper, took them over to McDonald's, took them inside and ate them there
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I'm sorry, what?? How so? How is this any different than the people who wanted, *and got*, Android ported to their WinMo 6 devices (HD2, Vogue, Touch Pro 1 & 2 etc.)? Those people got their whopper, took them over to McDonald's, took them inside and ate them there
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the point is Android is open source while WP is not
Yes thank you I understand that. Winmo 6 and earlier were not open source either. It didn't keep people from doing all kinds of amazing stuff with it. I know that as of now there's no real way for people to get wp7 onto android phones but it doesnt mean it won't or can't ever happen. Personally, I don't really care as I think it kinda blows anyways but I'm all for people hacking whoppers into McD's restaurants.
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Yes thank you I understand that. Winmo 6 and earlier were not open source either. It didn't keep people from doing all kinds of amazing stuff with it. I know that as of now there's no real way for people to get wp7 onto android phones but it doesnt mean it won't or can't ever happen.
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And thats for good. I've i want a W7P i would've bought one. But i wont.
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The "taking my Whopper to McD's to eat it" analogy is kind of weak. 99.9% of employees don't care if you bring in dog crap and eat it. They have other things to worry about.
@bast525
in the title it says official WP7.
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@bast525
in the title it says official WP7.
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lol fine you win!
it would be interesting I'd someone pulled it off.
Since original thread was closed (just as I said it would even without a good reason) as I was typing answer below
I feel obliged to answer it here
Well, looks like it is. Any criticism of xda is not tolerated here, and this thread will lead to criticism.
If you still care for my opinion...
No, sharing is not xda spirit anymore, well at least not for some people. Popularity and donations is, by the looks of it.
I do not say that this applies to everyone, only to certain people, and it looks like xda supports it in general.
And members cannot express their view if their view goes against what xda likes to hear.
SOPA anyone?
Just saying
If you decide to post something in this thread, please consider that there should be no flaming, profanities etc, so xda does not have good grounds to close it.
matmar said:
Members can express their view and i do not think it is pointless or against xda rules...it is ? If yes i apologize by advance....
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....sigh....
Well, for me it's another sad sad day for XDA.
I'm "really" thinking HTC should step in, collect THEIR assets once and for all.
This is never going to stop this way. This was (yes was) a sharing community, and honestly is doesn't feel like a community anymore.
For me, and I regret to say this, the only real solution for this is when HTC relocks their bootloaders so custom roms become a thing from history.
There's just too much showing off, whining this, whining that and all other crap going on.
And really what is the point??
We are all in the same boat, wanting the exact same thing!
I just cannot understand this.
We buy HTC especially for this line of "work".
People should think twice or even five times before letting their d... deside.
Anyway, my 2 cents (IC's )
Lol, you should have known it would happen.
Peeps, let's keep it social here.
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conantroutman said:
....sigh....
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sigh is right! We're all sighing!
tinky1 said:
Since original thread was closed (just as I said it would even without a good reason) as I was typing answer below
I feel obliged to answer it here
Well, looks like it is. Any criticism of xda is not tolerated here, and this thread will lead to criticism.
If you still care for my opinion...
No, sharing is not xda spirit anymore, well at least not for some people. Popularity and donations is, by the looks of it.
I do not say that this applies to everyone, only to certain people, and it looks like xda supports it in general.
And members cannot express their view if their view goes against what xda likes to hear.
SOPA anyone?
Just saying
If you decide to post something in this thread, please consider that there should be no flaming, profanities etc, so xda does not have good grounds to close it.
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and this is why I love you tinky. I wnted to voice my own opinion but didn't. You did it for me! for us!
Tinky for president? Which country though
Lol, just lol.
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sigh is right! We're all sighing!
and this is why I love you tinky. I wnted to voice my own opinion but didn't. You did it for me! for us!
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Trollville recently outvoted me... perhaps you could replace me
Just sayin'
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Tinky for president? Which country though
Lol, just lol.
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tinky1 said:
Since original thread was closed (just as I said it would even without a good reason) as I was typing answer below
I feel obliged to answer it here
Well, looks like it is. Any criticism of xda is not tolerated here, and this thread will lead to criticism.
If you still care for my opinion...
No, sharing is not xda spirit anymore, well at least not for some people. Popularity and donations is, by the looks of it.
I do not say that this applies to everyone, only to certain people, and it looks like xda supports it in general.
And members cannot express their view if their view goes against what xda likes to hear.
SOPA anyone?
Just saying
If you decide to post something in this thread, please consider that there should be no flaming, profanities etc, so xda does not have good grounds to close it.
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The sharing mentality of XDA has not gone away. But it's certainly been reduced in light of WinZip wizards and cocky chefs who think they're God's gift to a device. The heart of this latest flare up is the simple fact that 3 devs refuse to work together or cooperate in any way. We (the moderators) deal with hundreds of reported posts everyday, and quite frankly I pitty the members who allow such infantile sh*t to occur.
Regarding sharing: Just because someone has a source that allows them early access to a file, which has happened since all the way back in WM's days here, they are under zero obligation to share it with anyone else. Most times this can risk exposing the source, which could potentially shut everyone down.
The key difference between then (WM) and now (Android) is that everyone seems to be more concerned with beating everyone else to the release, thereby claiming all the glory and potential donations. Sharing is very much still alive here, but it seems otherwise due to device popularity causing competition as opposed to cooperation. Back when smartphones were reserved for the geeks and otherwise tech savvy people, the community was much smaller, and knew each other on what was sometimes a personal level. We all worked together for a common goal. Don't believe me, have a look around the older sections of XDA, and try to count on more than 1 hand how many chefs/devs ever mention the word donations. Now do the same in the Android areas, and try to find 5 chefs/devs/winzip wizards who don't ask for them.
Ok here's how it is.......
Some of you may not like this but it needs to be said.......
Sharing is and always has been encouraged here on XDA. That said,if someone has a valid reason not to publicly share something, nobody has the right to hold that against them....
The situation we have here is not caused by one single person and is certainly not caused by XDA as a whole, it is not even directly related to the sharing aspect.
What we have here is a situation blown completely out of proportion due to a combination of over inflated egos and petty personal disputes.
First guy said:
"whaaa whaa whaa I want what he's got.........."
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the other guy said:
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third guy said:
"Dude, you should totally troll his thread, oh yeah and the mods are nazis... trololololol"
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There are many many users and developers across the board who need to take a step back from their screen for a second, stuff a hand down the front of their pants to check if there's a set of balls in there....
If there is then they should take that as sign that its time to pull their head out of their arse and stop acting like eight year old girls fighting over a hairbrush...........
This is a development forum. Not a playground. This problem is not specific to the Sensation forums either, it permeates throughout the entire site so do not be surprised when the moderation team take action against a user who has violated the rules of the forum.
That is what we are here to do.
Due to the large number of whiny trolls currently infesting the forums, threads such as this only create drama and bring back the problems we are trying to eliminate. (Whether that was the OP's intention or not)
Nobody on the moderation team has a problem with criticism.
I have many issues with this site. If someone were to tell me I cannot raise them then I would tell them to go **** themselves. However, there is a right way of going about this and a wrong way.
Any user is always welcome to contact a moderator about any concerns they might have. Should you have a problem with a particular moderator then contact a member of the moderator committee or an admin. (a list is in my sig btw)
Contrary to popular belief, the mod team is not some elitist "old boys club" and we do not play favourites. Each and every moderator is expected to adhere to a code of conduct and can expect to be promptly dismissed should they not do so.
That however does not mean that we will not make unpopular decision should the need arise.
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Come On!
I am just plain dissapointed.. I think that the dev should share what they find, after all did they create the base no.... where do they get it? sharing!!! I am leaning away from xda community as of late for reasons revolving around this exact problem!! And now favorite dev for sensation is not here!!
Very, very true. Unfortunately xda seems to prefer to just close thread, give infractions, and try to shut everyone up instead of trying to encourage cooperation. Shall we try to change something here together, as a community?
P. S. Nice to see mods participating in conversation. Maybe(hopefully) it's a beginning of a better relationship?
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The sharing mentality of XDA has not gone away. But it's certainly been reduced in light of WinZip wizards and cocky chefs who think they're God's gift to a device. The heart of this latest flare up is the simple fact that 3 devs refuse to work together or cooperate in any way. We (the moderators) deal with hundreds of reported posts everyday, and quite frankly I pitty the members who allow such infantile sh*t to occur.
Regarding sharing: Just because someone has a source that allows them early access to a file, which has happened since all the way back in WM's days here, they are under zero obligation to share it with anyone else. Most times this can risk exposing the source, which could potentially shut everyone down.
The key difference between then (WM) and now (Android) is that everyone seems to be more concerned with beating everyone else to the release, thereby claiming all the glory and potential donations. Sharing is very much still alive here, but it seems otherwise due to device popularity causing competition as opposed to cooperation. Back when smartphones were reserved for the geeks and otherwise tech savvy people, the community was much smaller, and knew each other on what was sometimes a personal level. We all worked together for a common goal. Don't believe me, have a look around the older sections of XDA, and try to count on more than 1 hand how many chefs/devs ever mention the word donations. Now do the same in the Android areas, and try to find 5 chefs/devs/winzip wizards who don't ask for them.
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I agree with both MTM AND NATF, and since I am one of the oldest members still active here, I can also confirm what NATF just said. We need cooperation between Devs and not pride wars.
Unfortunately this is not the case...
Winzip wizzard here (actually i use total commander but thats another story) - no irony here, if anyone has enough time to search my history on xda he will see i always said i'm cooking i'm not developing.
back to the discussion.
"they are under zero obligation to share it with anyone else. Most times this can risk exposing the source, which could potentially shut everyone down."
yes is true XDA can't make people share their source - 100% agree
risk of exposure ? i doubt is the case ,these test build are leaked with HTC's OK, we do the final beta testing for free . Let's not get into conspiracy theories here.
Is not just 3 devs who have a problem, again if anyone has the time to search xda will see one of the chefs had arguments with a lot more than 2 chefs .
Donations. I personally don't ask for them, i accept them .
As for me, i never wanted to be the 1st, and in the rare moments i had a thing 1st i shared it, i never cared about my thread rating and didn't cry when i got 1 star instead of five and so on. don't believe me ? again use the search .
about sharing, good or bad, 1st or the latest, i always said everyone is free to use what they want and do whatever they want with my zip-mods
IMHO I think XDA uses the term recognized developer far too loosely.
mudhi is a developer, LEEDROiD a developer. Mike1986 has no code knowledge (there was a very heated discussion via PM between him and me about that, I won and he left me.alone eventually) and all "his" mods made by other people. he is not the only one, don't think I say this just to have a go at mike, there are also other but at least baadnewz does do own mods, search back to 2.08 base and his own mod based on the beats audio mod (can't remember the original developer)
these people like mike think a bit of hocus pocus in dsixda kitchen make them developers, IT DOES NOT (IMO)
I say this and many of you will be thinking I am a hypocrite. Ha, I know flash ActionScript, JavaScript, HTML, CSS, tiny bit of PHP, and some java as well as currently learning smali, I came originally from DFG StarMods (where I now have the honour of being one of the admins) which is a flash theme development site for Samsung phones (like tocco lite, star, Monte and the jet)
And another thing, if people make a ROM based on a new leak/release but choose not to share the RUU, then they really have no grounds to complain about kangs because they brought it on themselves by refusing to share. If they share, kangs won't happen so I think it is unfair for baad to have received infraction because it is only human nature for users to want the best, the newest etc
p.s all apk files libs etc from any of our ROMs belong to HTC not the chefs
there are a bit more than beats stuff.
ported amaze camera and album to work on every 2.3.3-2.3.5 sense 3/3.5 rom
when was the 1st leak of android 2.3.4 from Chinese source i was the one who made location / friendstream / stock etc. to work with it and so on
baadnewz said:
there are a bit more than beats stuff.
ported amaze camera and album to work on every 2.3.3-2.3.5 sense 3/3.5 rom
when was the 1st leak of android 2.3.4 from Chinese source i was the one who made location / friendstream / stock etc. to work with it and so on
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I know, I just use beats as example because at the time it was well known
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NotATreoFan said:
The key difference between then (WM) and now (Android) is that everyone seems to be more concerned with beating everyone else to the release, thereby claiming all the glory and potential donations. Sharing is very much still alive here, but it seems otherwise due to device popularity causing competition as opposed to cooperation. Back when smartphones were reserved for the geeks and otherwise tech savvy people, the community was much smaller, and knew each other on what was sometimes a personal level. We all worked together for a common goal. Don't believe me, have a look around the older sections of XDA, and try to count on more than 1 hand how many chefs/devs ever mention the word donations. Now do the same in the Android areas, and try to find 5 chefs/devs/winzip wizards who don't ask for them.
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True, but this isn't platform dependent at all. WinMo ROM development suffered from this too.
Donations make people greedy, some guys just made their rom cooking tenure a part-time job. Nowadays Smartphones became over-popular causing this to be a great money source.
In my personal opinion xda-devs should somehow promote/encourage developers that do not accept donations, make freeware, and release their source code for free.
Jackos said:
True, but this isn't platform dependent at all. WinMo ROM development suffered from this too.
Donations make people greedy, some guys just made their rom cooking tenure a part-time job. Nowadays Smartphones became over-popular causing this to be a great money source.
In my personal opinion xda-devs should somehow promote/encourage developers that do not accept donations, make freeware, and release their source code for free.
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QFT!
Money is the root of most of the problems with XDA these days...
And I can't see that changing unfortunately.
So,are we getting anywhere guys?
Is there a way to encourage sharing somehow?
It just beyond my comprehension that an apple can be given for someone to give a bite to anyone who'd like it, but no one else can take that apple to give a bite. End result is the same in think.
It's not about Mike not sharing when he is told not to share (if that is true, I don't know and not judging him). It's the concept of having something to share but only allowing one person to share it which gets me confused. Why!?
conantroutman said:
QFT!
Money is the root of most of the problems with XDA these days...
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Thank GOD somebody started discussing this! I tried to started, but the thread was closed the second I started it. I will hold my tongue, but you can read between the lines:
Baad
We miss you!
Not spamming, I know this is difficult, but well, still hopeful.:crying:
But it's simply impossible due to non-crackable bootloaders in all WP8 phones.
kristiancarl said:
Not spamming, I know this is difficult, but well, still hopeful.:crying:
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You kiding right ?
Android Sucks big time.
boumboqc said:
You kiding right ?
Android Sucks big time.
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about 80% of the people in this forum (I mean the whole XDA forum) could give you inumerous reasons as to why you're wrong. I however don't think it's worth it because it's your opinion. and your opinion shouldn't be stated as a fact. the OP wasn't kidding, as he and many more people would love to see a great Nokia device running Android, which is the favorite OS of many.
PLUG313 said:
about 80% of the people in this forum (I mean the whole XDA forum) could give you inumerous reasons as to why you're wrong. I however don't think it's worth it because it's your opinion. and your opinion shouldn't be stated as a fact. the OP wasn't kidding, as he and many more people would love to see a great Nokia device running Android, which is the favorite OS of many.
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The query however - as mentioned above (bootloader) is impossible and has been asked over and over again. I agree, this post is redundant and unneeded as it will simply not happen. If one prefers Android or Windows Phone is personal choice and irrelevant to the initial post.