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Hope someone can help with a few things
i have a UK Magic on vodafone, updated to crb43
Then I wanted to try the google ion rom (not haykuro, the image released elsewhere) as it was faster and had voide dialing
I used the new-recovery to install it, booting it from fastboot rather than flashing it. I made a nandroid backup first.
Anyways, I wanted to go back to default rom and OTA updates, so thought i'd restore my backup.
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I've done this, but had to flash the new haykuro spl...
My question is will i get OTA updates with this SPL?
I cant find the stock spl anywhere for download, whats the hard spl - does it exist for the magic or just the dream???
Basically i just want the simplicity i started with not bothered with root.
really? no one knows?
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really? no one knows?
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Hi dazcox5181,
The answer is a few posts below yours.
I haven't tried myself as I'm very happy with my rooted Magic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3857151&postcount=10
Thanks, I thought that might have something to do with it.
Now back to Voda system, data and recovery with the spl linked above. Should that now get me back to being tied to vodafones OTA updates?
I'm new to Android, so I'm not sure how much of a restriction / or not this is? Are OTA updates common/regular/likely to add anything worthwhile (well, I guess cupcake was...but you probably all had that anyway)
Thanks, with a bit more research I finally stumbled on the solution.
Had to restore to crb17 from the link on the thread above, and then flash the original recovery in fastboot, then the OTA update to crb43 worked perfectly!
Phew!
I'll probably re-root sooner or later, can't help but play around on this device :0 so much more to play with than my iPhone he he
Apologies if this thread annoys anyone who says I should have searched better to start with, I did, and read many threads but theres a lot to take in!
Anyways, maybe someone else has same problem and this might have helped
and to make it easier for future searchers could you compile a detailed list of step-by-step instructions for doing this? Could be handy for a wiki somewhere
OK, will add details later, but briefly
To restore to factory:
1) Download and follow instructions to flash the crios spl (one with older version reported)
2) Download and follow included instructions to flash the SFR CRB17 image using included recovery.img (boot dont flash it)
3) Download and flash original recovery image (again from crios) can be found at thread linked earlier in this one.
Reboot, and go through usual setup etc OTA update will be on its way
Be sure to remove any update.zip from your SD before attempting ther OTA update, ie before first boot if possible
It's actually really easy now I know how, and took about 20min in total (probably less)
Where do you get the SFR CRB17?
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Where do you get the SFR CRB17?
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Here : http://wiki.smartphonefrance.info/firmware-htcmagic.ashx
Hi guys,
I've searched the forums and I can't find a solution for a problem I'm having. I have successfully rooted and played around with different flavors of Hero ROM's and optimized kernels. But, I would like to revert back to the original Vodafone UK ROM (I have a nandroid backup of it, done right after rooting the device). I have restored the ROM but for some reason, OTA updates never install. The ROM I have backup'ed is CRB17 and I know the latest is CRC1. Using the System updates menu in Android, I download the update, but it doesn't install, it says that I need to reboot, which I do and nothing happens.
How can I get the original unrooted: HBOOT-1.33.0004 (SAPP10000) : Sapphire PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G : CPLD-10 (Voldafone NL + UK + Australia)? I have a friend that hasn't rooted his Magic, how can I get his SPL?
So far, what I've done:
- installed Engineering SPL HBOOT-1.33.2004 Signed update.zip and restored the original recovery for Sapphire that Haykuro has around (when I nandroided my original ROM, I had already put in the Cyanogen's recovery tool...) - OTA doesn't work.
- installed Modded HBOOT-1.33.2004 by Crios Signed update.zip and restored the original recovery for Sapphire that Haykuro has around - OTA doesn't work.
Another thing I noticed is that although people say that with Crios SPL, I should be able to do the OTA updates, I can't!
Also, the SPL description says "Sapphire PVT 32B SHIP S-OFF H : CPLD-10", and my original description should be "Sapphire PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G : CPLD-10".
Has anyone been able to make OTA updates working again?
Thanks for your help in this matter, I feel like I've tested everything :\
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OK guys, just got my OTA updates back. You should thank RubenFreitas for the dump of his "virgin" HTC Magic Vodafone UK. This is a 32B device, unrooted, which means you can do OTA's again.
How to restore your device to OTA abilities:
- first you need to put Crios SPL (2004/2005) with S-OFF on your device. (look for instructions on the forum, search for "magic hboot spl").
- fastboot into Amon_RA recovery tool. (fastboot boot recovery.img)
- make a backup of your current rom (don't worry, this is just for getting the file structure into the sdcard).
- After it finishes, reboot your device and mount your sdcard.
- In your sdcard, you'll find a "nandroid" folder, open it, until you see boot.img, etc.
- replace the files with the ones on the file here: www.dymsoft.com/rubenfreitas_Vodafone_UK_ORIGINAL.zip
- fastboot again into Amon_RA recovery tool
- recover your backup (which will now be the original ROM from vodafone).
- reboot and enjoy your OTA again
If for any reason, nandroid restoring doesn't work (your phone does not boot after 15 minutes), you can restore the backup manually in fastboot mode:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash userdata data.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot reboot
I have exactly the same question!
Just 1 question, why do you desperately want OTA updates?
I mean anything we get on here is likely to be one step ahead of any update our carriers give us, even if we do miss out on something good when it's sent out someone will pick it up on here pretty quickly and pull it apart to make sure we dont miss out.
Just my thoughts, I really wouldn't worry.
It's just the idea that I can't get my device working for 100% again that makes me crazy
Going back to the standard rom is hardly working 100% ..
xyzulu said:
Going back to the standard rom is hardly working 100% ..
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Smartass ... but still nothing on how to fix this?
Roy_Drage said:
Just 1 question, why do you desperately want OTA updates?
I mean anything we get on here is likely to be one step ahead of any update our carriers give us, even if we do miss out on something good when it's sent out someone will pick it up on here pretty quickly and pull it apart to make sure we dont miss out.
Just my thoughts, I really wouldn't worry.
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The only reason I want OTA working again is for getting "Donut" update automatically when it comes out, rather than having to wait for it to be available here.
From what I can gather, we can only have OTA if the Magic is unrooted, am I right? According to Crios posts, I should be able to do the OTA updates, but his SPL is for HTC devices, and I have a Google one, although it works fine on my Google. Just the OTA doesn't work.
Anyone knows how to dump the original SPL from an HTC Magic that hasn't been rooted?
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The only reason I want OTA working again is for getting "Donut" update automatically when it comes out, rather than having to wait for it to be available here.
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I'm sure once it's out it won't be long before it's available on here. Wouldn't surprise me if it was posted here the same day.
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I'm sure once it's out it won't be long before it's available on here. Wouldn't surprise me if it was posted here the same day.
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Wouldn't suprise me if we had it here before!!
I mean they already have the code for most of it anyways. From what I've seen and tried of donut it doesn't even look that great! Possible mulit-touch, well they will mange to pull that out and stick it in a cyanogen rom or something, and a widget for the home screen allowing you to toggle things like wifi etc....
You can get those anywhere off the market, check the widgets on jerpeleas cyanogen rom page. They are really nice.
Read this, doesn't even sound like Donut is going to be version 2.0 of android, more like 1.7 or something:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/26/android-team-member-says-donut-isnt-2-0-doesnt-have-multitouc/
To me that really doesn't matter! I just want the possibility to restore my Magic to factory settings with OTA updates!
same question here. Snappiness of the vodafone original rom is the best so far. Have tried all different roms. Problem is, there is an update available i can download it but it wont install.
Still no-one who can fix this? Come on, please... I'm sure you genius' can help us out!
i think i shall be ok haven't peremantly flashed anything no spl updates back to stock vodafone uk rom. only thing i did install was a few hero builds so hopfully ive done no damage to my phone
Imho un-rooting the phone should do the trick, but how can that be done? There are a couple of manuals for the Dream, but they ain't working for the Sapphire.
Can someone please upload the original SPL from Vodafone (NL/UK/AUS)? I'm pretty sure that if we can put that one back on our Magic's, we have our OTA Updates back!
It would be appreciated very much!
Tomorrow I have a friend that has a "virgin" HTC Magic from Vodafone UK I'll try to get his "virgin" SPL and boot and everything.
I found out how we can dump it all into .img files (what nandroid uses). Hopefully, it should get us back OTA updates!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4035680#post4035680
That would be awesome! Great!
Hi DFerreira.... did you manage to get the original SPL?
Not yet... my friend couldn't come to my place. I'll try to catch up with him tomorrow.
I also have an untouched magic here (dutch one from my gf). I just dont know what to do
I was able to successfully root my new t-mobile mytouch 3G through this forum.
There may be a variety of reasons to unroot it for persons using this forum. I have a good one, in any case.
I saw there are faqs to unroot G1 and perhaps some other sapphire phones, but not for the Mytouch G2.
Here is my original rom/data info from before it was rooted
SAPPHIRE PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0006 (SAPP30000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.261
May 27 2009, 19:06:41
Perhaps this would be a good time for those who cracked the dreaded perfect spl to give directions to uncrack it. Imagine it is quite simple, but I am somewhat new at this, and don't know where to find the files needed.
1. what files would be needed (perhaps someones nandroid backup?)
2. where to get the files.
3. directions to install them, so the phone appears back in factory condition.
Dave
I have the same question
also can a nandroid back restore the spl at the time of backup as well. so if we use one click root and then do the nandroid back, so the restore will be factory spl and factory rom?
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I have the same question
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not really possible at this point, unless someone has a copy of the t-mobile mytouch sappimg.NBH
why would you want to give up the rooty goodness anyway?
to send the phone for warreny maybe
also can a nandroid back restore the spl at the time of backup as well. so if we use one click root and then do the nandroid back, so the restore will be factory spl and factory rom?
do u think this is a possibility?
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not really possible at this point, unless someone has a copy of the t-mobile mytouch sappimg.NBH
why would you want to give up the rooty goodness anyway?
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I think the same downgrade protection that made root so difficult to achieve would also prevent the MyTouch NBH from flashing since the MainVer is lower. We determined that the downgrade protection came from somewhere on the device other than the SPL.
nand doesnt flash SPL. sorry charlie
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548915
oh, then its not possible to restore back to factory spl until there is a leaked .nbh of mytouch. That answers all the questions.
couldnt you use the same gold card procedure to re-install the stock rom?
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couldnt you use the same gold card procedure to re-install the stock rom?
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ofcourse we can but where is the stock sappimg? ITs not available at the moment
i am to looking for this i i seen that going back to the stock spl on the my touch works alot better with flashing ones u do the one 1 click root i have to did one the hard way and the 2 one the easy way the 1 one si did is having trouble flashing hero roms they away go blurry now the 2 one with the stock spl works really good any rom can be flash am looking for the stock spl or how to un root the phone
I am pretty sure there are other ways to purposely brick your phone to get service under warranty. There are a ton of posts in the G1 forums on this exact subject. I am not sure that that's why you want to downgrade but if it's for warranty repair, others have reported that they were able to get HTC to fix their phones even though they were rooted (often when they were bricked). Personally, I don't think HTC could care less but that's just my opinion.
a couple reasons to unroot phone:
A. you sell it to someone on ebay who does not want a rooted phone, perhaps they think it is illegal or something.
B. for the warranty
while this may be off topic, someone mentioned sending it to HTC for the warranty, and they would not care about it being rooted or no. Do we send the t-mobile mytouch phone to t-mobile or htc? (I'm sure the quesiton is somewhere in the data base, but I'm a little lazy about this one. sometimes shortcuts are good, like rooting is a kind of shortcut.
so far as how to unroot, if someone (who unlike me thinks ahead) backed up the original hard drive data, could they upload said backup to be used by others?
Cheers
Dave
if u want to send it back to tmobile just tell them u downloaded a app and it fu*k it up and u cant do hard reset or nothing it that it keeps cutting of anf on u know make somthing up all i did was tru back the rom it comes with and set it back for a new one but i was still under the buys R so am waiting on a new one now
The mytouch nbh will be released shortly some time today or maybe tomorrow. You will use the gold card method like before ( you might not even have to use gold card, but if it doesnt flash regular use the gold card) You shouldnt have to worry about the version being an older version because you dont have that spl that wont allow you to flash older versions
I added the un-root procedure here (Scroll down!)
muchos gracias
Dave
I finally got around to rooting and S-OFFing my phone today, while I was at it I used clockwork recovery to make a backup of the Stock VHA Branded ROM.
I saw a few people were looking for this so here it is. Feel free to mirror it or whatever, this is my first ROM-dump so if anything is amiss or I did something wrong please let me know. I still have the device available to make further dumps.
This is for the Desire HD (Obviously) Branded by Vodafone Australia.
hxxp://depositfiles.com/files/3x1c6v6hj
Sorry for posting a link as a new member, I thought this would be worth it.
EDIT: Obviously the dump is all at factory defaults, on first boot it should be like buying a new phone, from a bloatware company.
Except it will be a rooted bloatware rom?
That's the point People have been asking for it as a backup rom, as flashing a non Vodafone rom may void certain warranties, which flashing this back could increase your chance of keeping. I personally upgraded my own DHD to a much better ROM as soon as I could.
Awesome, ive been waiting for the stock ROM. Good Work
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Awesome, ive been waiting for the stock ROM. Good Work
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No worries man. Let me know how it turns out if you use it. Everything should be at factory defaults as I wiped the device with Clockwork before making the backup. If you find anything wrong just let me know in this thread.
Thanks Should be handy for warranty issues!
Thanks champion!
Thanks mate. I've downloaded and it all looks good so far (haven't flashed though to check).
Is it rooted with VISIONary r12?
Sweet, been waiting for this. Thanks mate!
Sent from my Desire HD
Yeah the process I followed was Perma root with VISIONary v12, install hboot, install clockwork test, use clockwork to wipe to factory and then backup to SDcard. I'm unsure as to the exact details of how VISIONary works at this time so it may not still be rooted, I don't know if root persists after factory reset.
Thanks! this is getting downloaded for safety/warranty reasons.
Thanks a lot for extracting and hosting the original (Vodafone AUS) ROM!
Am i right, that this is the only thing you need to set your mobile into delivery condition? If there are some other traces of flashing they might decline warranty, too!
Perhaps, if you have the time and pleasure, you could write a detailed how-to for newbies (with links to software you need, e.g.!) how to extract the original firmware.
I think this would be necessary if the DHD will be available in other countries on other network providers (with their own ROM).
Excellent! I'm just 2 days into my new DHD from Vodafone Oz and just about to do the same... Rooting!
I'll probably make a back for myself but I'm downloading this one too... Just to be safe.
Thanks heaps Kazuroka!
BTW - Don't listen to those lame ppl who don't have anything positive to add.
Just a note: I believe that this ROM, although the stock Vodafone image, is a rooted one. So if Vodafone have a moderately smart technical department they will still be able to tell that it is not running their complete stock image.
@ivolol: That's exactly what i'm thinking about! For e. g., changing ROM on my Windows Mobile phone requires a modification of the bootloader. If you flash back your old (original) ROM you have to remember to change the bootloader to original too. Otherweise you have the original ROM on your phone but another bootloader and this could be be detected very easily. I know that the procedure changing ROM on DHD is another than on Windows Mobile, but perhaps you have to think about more things than only flashing the original ROM?!
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Just a note: I believe that this ROM, although the stock Vodafone image, is a rooted one. So if Vodafone have a moderately smart technical department they will still be able to tell that it is not running their complete stock image.
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After flashing back the backup ROM I did not have root. I installed Terminal Emulator and tried to su, and even downloaded VISIONary+ and re-Rooted the device. However I did still have the Eng hboot, as that was not included in this backup. I have a copy of the original hboot from when S-OFFed the phone, I will see what I can do about getting the original hboot and stock ROM into one package for everyone, and then perhaps write a tutorial for flashing them back individually. I MAY NOT, however, write the tutorial as I am still rather new and would not like to lead people into doing something the wrong way. I will also include the stock hboot in a seperate archive for those who have already downloaded this release.
Original HBOOT: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X1QFR2D2
could be better i gues...thanks OP
ROM Version: 1.32.178.5
Download link: http://www.multiupload.com/3UFP92FNMJ
Size: 558 MB
md5sum: 834dc33ab316a702c93b61533681356b
This is the original system.img that comes on a brand new Vodafone Desire HD.
This image was dumped manually without Visionary messing with stuff, and Obviously the image is NOT rooted. It's completely stock.
This would probably be the best image to use if you're worried about returning the phone
Note: I have had to return a Desire HD to Vodafone who did not check that it was rooted and S-OFF'ed - So, don't worry too much.
OzJD
Why is your file so much bigger than Kazuroka's original upload and also just wondering your method of extracting the img?
Thanks
Hi all,
I've been trying to update my HTC Desire S for a few days.
I want to update from Android 2.3.3 to 2.5 but I can't get it to work.
I will try to provide you with as much info as possible.
I have a rooted phone and I've also made backups of my ROM and apps using clockworkmod and titanium backup.
Now, if I try to update from within Android (I get a message sayin an OTA update is waiting for me) then it will reboot, but get stucked at the infamous white triangle with yellow exclamation mark.
Next thing I tried is booting in recovery mode and select apply update from zip file.
This gives me a whole list of errors, and I thought the update file was corrupt.
Note that every time the phone gets stucked I remove the battery, otherwhise I can't boot the phone again.
Now, I deleted the update from my sdcard and downloaded it again. Tried the same steps but nothing happened.
Last time I tried to get into recovery mode it got stuck at the pink T-Mobile logo. I'm looking at this screen for half an hour now.
To make a long story short:
- Update from 2.3.3 to 2.5
- Carriër: T-Mobile (NL)
- Phone: HTC Desire S
- ROOT: YES!
- HBOOT: 6.98.1002
- RADIO: 3805.06.02.03_M
I hope anyone is able to help me with this, right now I don't know what my phone is doing, and I cannot use it.
Best regards,
Marcoevich
Ok, I've removed the battery and managed to boot it again.
Now, I renamed the update file to update.zip and put it in the rood of my sdcard.
I got into recovery mode again, tried update from zip file on sdcard. Here's the error I got:
assert failed: check_cid(getprop("ro.cid"). "0000000" , "1111111" , "2222222" , "3333333" , "4444444" , "5555555" , "6666666" , "7777777" , "8888888" , "9999999" , "T-MOB003") == "t"
E:Error in /sdcard/update.zip
(Status 7)
Installation aborted.
If you can get into recovery again I would recommend trying to restore your back up. You should not try to apply an OTA update to a rooted phone at all, you could have got a 2.5 update from a thread here. Sorry I can't help more but as far as I know you really need to get into recovery and get the back up restored or try and flash a new ROM.
Yeah, try a custom rom out there. Saga3D v4 is based on official desire s sense 3 update. Official ota can't work because hboot needs to ne updated (new partition table), and revolutionary hboot (6.98.0002) can't be overwritten by ota. Plus official ota needs stock recovery. Clockworkmod, 4ext recovery won't work. So either restore your backup or try a custom rom
Sent from my Desire S with Virtuous Quattro
Ok thx. Didn't knew i couldn't apply an OTA over a rooted ROM. I thought I would only lose my root after update.
But I've done some research in the meantime. I think I'm gonna flash the latest coredroid ROM, that one looks very promising
Thx again for your help, but I got one more question.
First i'd like to test the original htc OTA. So a workaround for that is restore my backup from before I rooted the phone.
The only thing is, will I be able to go back to the rooted ROM afterwards? OR do I need to root it again?
Well that is a little more complicated. The problem applying ota isn't the rooted rom, it is the custom recovery. Ota needs stock recovery to work.
And if you restore stock recovery and apply ota, your only possibility to root will be using htcdev unlock and permanently losing your warranty. (Htc will register your serial number and will be able to say that you voided your warranty)
Better using a custom rom.
Sent from my Desire S with Virtuous Quattro
Lol, I didn't saw that one comming
If I go to the htcdev site, I get the idea that HTC supports software development, and that it will repair phones even if they are rooted. So what's the point here? Why can't I 'normally' root my phone after upgrade to android 2.5?
Ok, to make things more clear for myself and others, I've done a conversation with an employee of the Dutch customer care department. I've translated the conversation to English, so you can understand it.
Here you go:
You are now connected with Susan.
Susan: Dear Marcoevich, thank you for your contacting HTC customer support.
Susan: What is your question exactly?
Marcoevich: Hey susan
Marcoevich: I will explain
Marcoevich: I have a rooted Desire S with Android 2.3.3
Marcoevich: Now I get an OTA update to Android 2.5 and Sense 3.0
Marcoevich: that update should be easy to apply when I restore a backup from Before my root
Marcoevich: But if I then go back to a custom ROM it is another story
Marcoevich: according to my friends at xda-developers I should do that with the htcdev unlock tool.
Marcoevich: but then I will lose all my warranty
Marcoevich: is that right?
Susan: Yes, if the unit is rooted u will void the warranty on your device. I understand that you have done this already?
Marcoevich: It is. but I think I read somewhere that HTC supports software development, and will fix rooted phones since August last year
Susan: HTC repairs the phones as usual, but the costs will be payed by the customer.
Marcoevich: Ah I see.
Marcoevich: What's the difference between a normal root or unlock the recovery using the htcdev tool? Because according to xda-developers I am losing my full warranty
Susan: It is exactly the same. No mather how you root the phone, you always lose the warranty.
Marcoevich: Hmm ok sin..
Marcoevich: I have one more question
Marcoevich: it is possible to restore your phone using a backup from before you rooted it.
Marcoevich: Can anyone, after I do this, see afterwards that it was a rooted phone?
Susan: I can give no answer. If a technician can see that the device has been rooted, it will be outside warranty. It is up to the repairers from Dynafix to determine this eventually.
Marcoevich: ok fine Thanks for your time!
Susan: Can I help you with anything else today?
Marcoevich: No, I understand now, I think
Marcoevich: thanks for your help!
To make a long story short: No matter how you root it, you will always lose your full warranty.
That's good to know
Edit: One more question remains: If I restore my phone with a backup from BEFORE I rooted it, will someone be able to see that it was a rooted phone?
Thanks in advance!
Marcoevich
Marcoevich said:
To make a long story short: No matter how you root it, you will always lose your full warranty.
That's good to know
Edit: One more question remains: If I restore my phone with a backup from BEFORE I rooted it, will someone be able to see that it was a rooted phone?
Thanks in advance!
Marcoevich
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As I understand it, no.
If you root it using htcdev they will have a record that you accepted their terms and conditions and rooted the phone thus voiding your warranty. If you have rooted using another method (Revolutionary for example) they have NO record that the phone was ever rooted.
You SHOULD be able to either restore your back-up (I'm not sure if this will bring it right back to stock, how did you make the back-up if it wasn't rooted?) or alternatively flash the stock rom you originally had from this site. There are threads on doing this right, and it will return your phone to stock, no one will be able to tell it was once rooted and you can then also download and apply the OTA update. I'm not quite sure why you might want to do that though as there are roms available here based on the ota update already, and much more exciting roms available as well. You should try some of these first before losing root with the ota update.
Also in future or for others reading this with similar situations: as Floatshow said I think the problem is partly caused by the revolutionary hboot being changed to 6.98.000, which the phone sees as higher than the ota roms hboot - to avoid this kind of problem it might be best to flash a new hboot - there are threads on this in the development section.
Good luck!
Thank you 4myphone! You explained it very clear
I made a backup using ROM Manager of my stock ROM. I hope the hboot etc is included in such a backup?
Thx for your explanation, I understand it now and if I ever have to send my phone to HTC I will use this site to return my phone to stock. I'm glad that it's possible
Best regards,
Marcoevich
Good question! I don't know if the hboot is part of the backup, it certainly doesn't change when you switch roms. I'd guess that restoring a back up would not change the hboot but I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong. Let me know if you test it
Nope. The hboot would NEVER be included in the recovery backup.