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Ipaq 6915 and GPS usage....???

Hello
I will shortly be the lucky (I hope if the purchase goes ok) owner of a Ipaq 6915 and wanted to know if anyone has got any experience at all with running TomTom on this unit...?
I have found the software that I want to buy....
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?quicklinx=48M0&fb=22&InMerch=1
...but I am struggling to know if it will work on my device. I am reading of problems with maps not found or TomTom only supporting devices that are on their list of approved devices, I'm not sure if that is right....?
Reading the link above I can't see the 6915 listed and would appreciate any help on whether I should buy from them and am I right in assuming that there are no demo of this software to test compatibility...???
I have mailed TomTom support from my account but still have not got a reply.
Sorry if the above is a really obvious question but I am rather new at this.

Actually the 6915 should come with a built in version of TomTom (the model I've seen had it, but this may very depending on region) specialized for it. It also has a map downloading app, but you will need to pay for an account.
I suggest you wait until you receive the device before considering purchasing additional navigation software.

<hangs head in embarrassment> - thanks for your help, it shows how new I am to thing. I understood it had a built in GPS but I didn't know a version of TT come built in, it seems to get better..!!!!
When you write about it needing an account would that be to register for the map in the area that I live...?

No need to be embarrassed.
GPS PDA / phones don't usually come with a built in navigation software. HP did good on this one.
I am not sure how it works exactly. I just saw that the app can download one free map as an example, some small area I think.
I know you need to pay if you want to download additional maps, but I have no idea how the registration process works.
I only had the device to play with for a few days, so I didn't get very far with it (Not to spoil your joy of the new toy but I really didn't like the square screen).

Thanks for your help, again. I will now wait to conclude the purchase of the device (the seller is waiting for his latest gadget before letting me buy the 6915)
I have spent so long trawling through forums and posts to find out as much as I can (obviously it didn't do me much good) on whether TomTom is approved on the device and will work. And then what I need to buy.
Good job they didn't have TT in stock at the above supplier as I would have bought it ready, now that would have been an embarrassment....!!!!
Thankyou again for your help and maybe its just me but my navigation skills around TomTom's website on finding more information is poor, I suppose that is why I need the GPS function....!!!!
Here is hoping that I only need to have ONE device and not a pocket full of the things, including several chargers and leads...!!!!!!

Well, I have been using this ipaq with TT version 6 and without any problems. The original ipaq did come with a TomTom pre-installed with a map of a small area. Well, I ended up installing another copy of TT6 - had no problems at all. A very good PDA - used to use xda2i earlier, but now do not need to carry any gps receiver as it is built in.

Thanks for the feedback spahwa - with it having the built in GPS, and other features, that is why I am interested in it. This means I will hopefully only have one device to carry around etc etc etc.
Glad to see that TT6 can be installed if required.

ttn6 is a great app... the 6515 however uses agps, so be warned. it requires the download of lto dat files every 3 days or else the gps wont function there are alternative 10 day lto files out there...
i was unhappy with the performance, or more accurately, the way the agps system works on my 6515 and more recently my 6945... ttn6 installed fine to both devices. i currently run ttn6 on my h5555 ipaq with a navman sleeve. i also like iguidance for either device.
just wanted to give you a heads up about the agps, cause i didnt know anything about it untill ofter the fact. there are devices out ther with different chipsets and quicker satelite recognition, so shop around a bit if you can
digit

mmm... You certainly have given me something to think about that I wasn't aware of that could real implications on the practical use of the device.
Thanks VERY much for your post.

i should add that my primary device is an hw6945 and im very happy with it. although i dont use it as my primary gps device, its a very well rounded device. the only short-comming is the 240x240 screen which for some is a huge limitation (for me its not too bad as i have other devices which fill the void)... again, i would read into some alternatives before you dive into something. there are many devies and many new devices that are coming out with gps now
jd
edit: i would google "6515 tt6" and like searches to get a feel of some of the issues people have been dealing with regarding tomtom, and the agps unit on this device in general

jdigitL said:
ttn6 is a great app... the 6515 however uses agps, so be warned. it requires the download of lto dat files every 3 days or else the gps wont function there are alternative 10 day lto files out there...
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that's not true. the GPS will still function w/o the lto files, although the ttff may be affecte as a result. There's a tweak (let me know if you don't have) to download the 10 day lto files, but otherwise, I don't really think this is a showstopper. The performance of the agps is defnitely on par with a sirf3 chip in a mobile device.
i was unhappy with the performance, or more accurately, the way the agps system works on my 6515 and more recently my 6945... ttn6 installed fine to both devices. i currently run ttn6 on my h5555 ipaq with a navman sleeve. i also like iguidance for either device.
just wanted to give you a heads up about the agps, cause i didnt know anything about it untill ofter the fact. there are devices out ther with different chipsets and quicker satelite recognition, so shop around a bit if you can
digit
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I am happy with the performance, no problem with the fix or what soever.

"There's a tweak (let me know if you don't have) to download the 10 day lto files"
... idont have please enlighten me is this based on either device or limited to the 6515, as im using a 6945 at this point...
thanks,
john

srry, doublepost

hey i also own a hw6945 and i was wondering if you have anywhere specifically where i can get programs for this screen size? im particually looking for an aim program that fits this screen sizze....thx

On my HW6915 there is no single problem running TT5. TT6 also runs great, however TT5 runs smoother.
Although AGPS is builtin, there's no need to use this software. Without updates the builtin GPS normally gets a fix within a minute.

i bought the hp 6915 at christmas and its the first pda ive had, i installed tt 6 on it and it works fine for me,
as far as the tomtom they give you on the hp 6915 is the vertion 4.0
you can the download for free a map of your town but you will have to buy any other maps or download them on bit torrent (grin)
if you do that there is a small mod to do in the windows system if tomtom can't find the gps radio
change the "IsEnabled de 1 to 0." in the \HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\section using a system editer like resco
What is true though is the screen size is too small. The next pda i buy will definatly have a bigger screen but the hp is certainly a pda swiss army knife
thats my opinion anyway
larry

6915 manual said that the 4 files for the gps can be downloaded through activesink but i use free wifi spots to download them every few days.
the main advantage about agps is that it get's fix much faster

Best car navigation solution for Raphael?

Hi there,
I am looking for a good car navigation solution for Raphael (for travelling in Europe). After reading infos about TT which seems to work at least with the latest releases and Navigon (for which I am not that sure ...), I now read about Tele Atlas McGuider which also seems to be quite good and even less expensive, but it seems to lack TMC or other traffic assistance support which is crucial for me (radio broadcasted or via internet, I do not mind, but it is a must).
I know that there are some other solutions out there. I wonder if you guys have experiences to share, also w/regard to VGA screen resolution and so on.
Thanks!
Eriol

I like the CoPilot Live, works very well and has a nice look and feel.

Co Pilot live is ok, but the traffic part of it is rubbish compared with tomtom. There is no visual display of traffic incidents ahead on the map, only a description that pops up with incident details which you either avoid or ignore. You can set it to automatically reroute, but you dont know whats going on. In my opinion, tomtom is currently the best.
I also found co-pilot slow to scroll around the map, but there again i dont have a fast mem card. Unfortunately there si no trial version available. make sure you get the version specific for the HTC diamond (also compatible with Touch Pro). It can be purchased online (from handango) cheaper than most retail stores.

Thx to both of you! I still would like to compare TomTom with McGuider ...
Eriol

McGuider
Hello,
I am using last version McGuider (7.x I think) and it work fine, but map and icons are too small, I and don't know if it can be repair.
Please if some one use thist program please write down here about how work.
Bye

Garmin XT is the best imo. TT cannot hold a candle to Garmin.

iGO 8
I think iGO 8 is the best solution for Raphael

Navigon
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen

jochenandries said:
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen
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Hi Jochen,
I have a stand alone PNA running Navigon 6.5, and I like it, too. But my experience with Navigon, especially running on my HTC Wizard (MN 6.x), is that the route calculation is rather slow and the whole app is not that fast on a PDA. This might be different on a Raphael due to processor speed, though. We also will use an Xperia X1 here: Is it possible to run MN7 on 800x480 screens?
Eriol

i maybe wrong, but some navigation programs will only run when the supplied memory card is installed. Installing the maps to another card will not work which therefore means you have to swap cards when using the software. Check before you buy!!!

jochenandries said:
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen
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Navigon is nice-- but once you're in the tunnel and lose signal it would say you've reach your destination I also don't like its route calculation-- it's giving me a longer route than tomtom

To my mind ist the default navigation (TomTom 7.451) the best. it uses vga, is fast, new maps
Eriol said:
Hi there,
I am looking for a good car navigation solution for Raphael (for travelling in Europe). After reading infos about TT which seems to work at least with the latest releases and Navigon (for which I am not that sure ...), I now read about Tele Atlas McGuider which also seems to be quite good and even less expensive, but it seems to lack TMC or other traffic assistance support which is crucial for me (radio broadcasted or via internet, I do not mind, but it is a must).
I know that there are some other solutions out there. I wonder if you guys have experiences to share, also w/regard to VGA screen resolution and so on.
Thanks!
Eriol
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ardsar said:
Co Pilot live is ok, but the traffic part of it is rubbish compared with tomtom. There is no visual display of traffic incidents ahead on the map, only a description that pops up with incident details which you either avoid or ignore. You can set it to automatically reroute, but you dont know whats going on. In my opinion, tomtom is currently the best.
I also found co-pilot slow to scroll around the map, but there again i dont have a fast mem card. Unfortunately there si no trial version available. make sure you get the version specific for the HTC diamond (also compatible with Touch Pro). It can be purchased online (from handango) cheaper than most retail stores.
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In Copilot7 there is indeed visual display of incidents ahead on the map, you also can get to incident-specific info in just three taps, reporting delay and other usefull info........
No need for automatic rerouting, you can let Copilot ask you what you want to do, after you have read the incident-info and delay time.....
No need for the diamond-version either, regular version runs great on my Touchpro....
See.......................you we're allmost right.....

Someone tried Navigon Mobile Navigator 7 for PDA on Raphael?
Is it compatible and full working?
Before then I buy, I asked to the support team, but no clear response about it.
Thanks.

NAVIGON Mobile Navigator 7 can work fine on Raphael, with this simple workaround.
You need a GPS port replicator (like Franson GPSgate) to solve the GPS signal stability problem on MN7.
I hope this can help who love this product family.

Best Navigation For Diamond 2

Which navigator is the best for HTC Diamond 2?
and which once work, the only one I think which is compatible with HTC Diamond 2 is iGo8 if I am wrong tell me.

ur wrong...tomtom works fine aswell

Copilot 8 works just fine

I use Tom Tom 7 and Ndrive, both work just fine.

Currently trialling Navigon Navigator 7, which also seems to work pretty well.

I use Destinator 7, NDrive, Garmin XT, iGO8, TomTom and the last couple of houres I'm testin Destnator 8.
All run stable, good speed, but which is best... difficult to say.
It depends on the trip-town-neighbor are used.

I've tried iGO, Copilot, and now I stick with Garmin. (mainly because I find they update their maps the most, and they have lots of custom cars to choose from).
I liked the UI of Copilot a LOT. But I noticed it made the Diamond 2 very hot.
I enjoyed the 3D view of iGo with the buildings, but it was very slow, and the maps were old as well.

I've used iGo8 on the Diamond and Diamond 2 for almost the last 2 years, mostly for work, and I'm very happy with it. Updated maps are easily available and I find the UI the most intuitive and quickest on the market. In comparison, TomTom seems strangely dated and is a nightmare when it comes to panning and zooming on the map screen. The Diamond 2 can sometimes get a little hot with iGo8, but I have it charging in the car at the same time so that can be a factor.
I only use it in portrait mode, landscape seems not to work on the Diamond 2 (or at least I can't be bothered to figure it out). But iGo always gets my vote!

Sygic is another option that works well on TD2 - similar in many respects to Tomtom in terms of menu structures and UI, but graphics are better and screen refresh rate is faster so it isn't as jerky.
Routing is questionable at times - Tomtom definitely wins out on that score.
Garmin, NDrive and CoPilot are also good, but iGo8 is the best for me by a considerable margin.

Tomtom defenitely wins.. it is also the only one that rotates immediately when you rotate the td2..

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I only use it in portrait mode, landscape seems not to work on the Diamond 2 (or at least I can't be bothered to figure it out). But iGo always gets my vote!
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I use on Diamond2 IGO 8.3.x - no problems with landscape, only what I need is set the screen rotation. I'm using IGO also due to the reason that there are only two companies which make maps of Cyprus.

I'm using both iGO and TOMTOM. iGO leads me to my destination with a long way. The same destination TOMTOM win. But in my country, TOMTOM map is old. So i prefer to use iGO anyway.

I also got diamond 2, and I'm sure Tomtom can run on it. And they provide the free trial. I used it and it's good, but after that I'm afraid the fee is unaffordable....You can have a look at zorro. A cheap and also nice gps which I'm using.

copilot
tomtom maybe cool if it auto rotates
but it costs a lot more than co pilot does

My vote
wheresmybeaver said:
I've used iGo8 on the Diamond and Diamond 2 for almost the last 2 years, mostly for work, and I'm very happy with it. Updated maps are easily available and I find the UI the most intuitive and quickest on the market. In comparison, TomTom seems strangely dated and is a nightmare when it comes to panning and zooming on the map screen. The Diamond 2 can sometimes get a little hot with iGo8, but I have it charging in the car at the same time so that can be a factor.
I only use it in portrait mode, landscape seems not to work on the Diamond 2 (or at least I can't be bothered to figure it out). But iGo always gets my vote!
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I use only igo 8.3 and 8.4 (amigo) in landscape mode on my diamond 2 lol
I must tell so that I have also Tom Tom 7.9 in portrait mode. Why ? sometimes I need a quick and dirty interface and tom tom is quicker than igo to start. Beside I like the "find the nearest emergency service".
But all for all, the best is igo

Navigation software review for HTC Vox / S710

Hi,
i tried several navigation solutions for vox, and here is a little review:
1. Sygic Mobile / McGuider
+ works on WM Standard without additional software (like FakeCoursor)
+ good graphics while navigation
+ no bluescreens (at all)
2. Navigon Mobile Navigator 7
+ best graphics while navigation
+ fast route calculation
- doesnt works on WM Standard without additional software (like FakeCoursor)
- crashes operating system so that you have to do a hard reset.
- doesnt recognize GPS-settings from last use
3. Garmin Mobile XT
+ works on WM Standard without additional software (like FakeCoursor)
+ fast route calculation
- works to slow to navigate, gives hint "turn right" when you already passed the crossing.
4. Route 66
+ works on WM Standard without additional software (like FakeCoursor)
no further testing because i didnt find a "free" map to test
Hope this "little" review helps some people looking for navigation software for vox.
I use an external gps - Jentro BT-GPS-8U.
Greets
Alex

Nice little compilation.
I am using Garmin Mobile XT and I never found it too slow (except when you're using the preview of turns which then takes too long to switch back to normal view). I have been using it here in Germany as well as in Scotland and it always found a pretty good route (except for a small street on a small scottish island hehe).
I am using a Bluemax GPS receiver.

You forgot to mention Tom Tom which with version 7.915 (I don't remember the build...maybe 9196) has become pretty usable without a fake cursor.
Also regarding my experience...McGuider is the nicer but the less reliable...something you can't thrust in.
GarminXT, is pretty decent to use, and more reliable...as stated by Frauhottelman...sure it isn't the smoother thing you'll see in your life...but, hei, you're running it on a 200 Mhz TI OMAP CPU.
TomTom ...i'm starting hating it...it does whatever it wants...IMO...On my Fuze it simply ignores the settings you set in it...and keep you crossing field roads...LOL.. damn it!
So my 2 cents go for the Garmin.
P.S: Whenever you'll go to the WM Pro platform...my suggest point all theway out for the Igo experience.

Did you test any of these without GPS connected, i´m thinking it could be used as a normal roadmap for finding your way without GPS.

Hey
anybody know why i cant get the device id for my vox in ttnavitor.bif?
flyboy

Murd0ck said:
Did you test any of these without GPS connected, i´m thinking it could be used as a normal roadmap for finding your way without GPS.
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If you were talking to me...only for some seconds, just to see what path did they decide...not in real driving need. Sorry.

TheBo said:
If you were talking to me...only for some seconds, just to see what path did they decide...not in real driving need. Sorry.
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Just new users for vox ) - toons of questions, without prior reading - just new phone where user is very new to wm or ever smart phones
m32

dear brothers
do you mean that s710 is GPS enabled ????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no gps built into the vox BUT it has bluetooth + if you have a bluetooth gps mouse like from ebay etc you will have a gps signal as good as or better than most gps enabled cellphones...

Poll!! Best GPS software for HD2 Poll!!

1 .IGO8
2. TomTom
3. Garmin XT
4. Copilot Live 8
5. Route 66 Mobile 8
6. Sygic Mobile Maps 9
7. Navigon
Vote and tell us why you have chosen that one...
Thx

Create the pool - it will be easier and more "visualized" than just replaying to your thread
+1 for tomtom

+1 For iGo8
Looks very good, but cant find addon voices

oeps
pepesz said:
Create the pool - it will be easier and more "visualized" than just replaying to your thread
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Ok Done! XD

+for Igo8
PS. When TMC will be availiable for HD2 then........I want to vote again

IGO STUF
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+1 For iGo8
Looks very good, but cant find addon voices
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removed links sorry guys

+1 for Sygic 9

mermigas said:
+for Igo8
PS. When TMC will be availiable for HD2 then........I want to vote again
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forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582202

Curious to see the results!
Hi all! Im actualy looking forward to the outcome of this poll as looking at what to get at the moment. Can you pls list why you prefer what you have?
I'm realy looking for a good one on foot/cycling (google maps doesnt quite cut it )
Thanks!
Happy Polling!

Copilot Live 8
+1 Copilot Live 8

I use TomTom because I own a TomTom PNA. So I get along with the mobile TomTom navigation best (did try several Navigation Software) - even I find the menu structure a bit pitty. iGo 8 has the best menu structure for me but I hate the "In 24,514884m and 51174 picometer please turn right!

Igo8 is the best for me with the kikker skin

the_b00gyman said:
I use TomTom because I own a TomTom PNA. So I get along with the mobile TomTom navigation best (did try several Navigation Software) - even I find the menu structure a bit pitty. iGo 8 has the best menu structure for me but I hate the "In 24,514884m and 51174 picometer please turn right!
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huh? does it really says that ? i have never a bug or a mistake on my igo8

Imo Navigon MN7 is the best choice for Europe. It's quite cheap, works awesome in every point and it's fast (tried a route from Barcelona to Helsinki which is almost 2600 km air line, needed 3 seconds to calculate it; when you see a traffic jam in front of you, you just click "avoid this part of the route" and it gives you the bypass immediately), and there are map updates 4 times per year - NEVER had ANY problem with it. iGo 8 is similar - it's also brilliant but it's much more expensive - costs about MN7 twice.

Copilot 8 , 100 % compatible with HD2 .

Plus +1 CoPilot 8. I was VERY skeptical, but its works admirably - even though its redundant since my GS has onboard Nav anyway..

iGo8
Works perfect as is!
Tried others and simply they do not cut it for me. Keep it simple and it works.
Awsome!

iGo for me as well; I love the way it shows you the signpostings and the whole interface. And the fact it filters when you're typing a road name.

iGO8 forever
this is the best sw navigation for me
i use version with themechanger,gfx,tmc and other in my HD2
create by my friend Adrianx
mate...upgrade your poll
with Sygtic Mobile Map 10

How can i purchase Igo8? Do you have to order a cd or can you download it? Thanks.