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Help & advise needed - Sat Nav

Hi there,
As a new owner of the o2 XDA mini s I would like to install a sat nav program, preferably one that covers Europe, any suggestions on which to use and how to obtain it would be appreciated, thanks.

I find TomTom to be pretty good.
I suppose Expansys at Expansys.com would be a good start. Also, checkout TomTom's own web site.

@mx5duncan
I have used all three major versions:
TomTom 5.21
Navigon 5
Destinator6
TomTom is nice, but it's full of bugs, old cards and way to many strange problems
Navigon looks very nice but SOOOOOO SLOW (takes minutes to enter an address) and recalulate the route will give you mist turns TOOO SLOW
Destinator is clearly my winner easy to use, excellent maps and very fast.
Don't need your manual very intuitive
Tuurtje

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Tuurtje said:
I have used all three major versions:
TomTom 5.21
Navigon 5
Destinator6
TomTom is nice, but it's full of bugs, old cards and way to many strange problems
Navigon looks very nice but SOOOOOO SLOW (takes minutes to enter an address) and recalulate the route will give you mist turns TOOO SLOW
Destinator is clearly my winner easy to use, excellent maps and very fast.
Don't need your manual very intuitive
Tuurtje
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Thanks for your help guys. The Destinator6 sounds OK but how do I go about getting hold of it? Is it available to download anywhere or do I have to purchase it? As I said, I'm new to this phone and also to sat nav so any help, however small is hugely appreciated, cheers.

Hi if you are intrested in a tomtom system on your pda I have a uncracked version with full europe mapping (Requires a 2Gb mini sd card
Or a GB+ Major roads of europe (can get away with 512Mb but 1GB is better)
If you are intrested i will put it on a CD for you and post it out for a small charge (about €10) if yo like.
You will have to purchase a Code from Tomtom or get your own crack tho

Hi,
You can visit the Destinator 6 site see link below:
Ill plug my own company DSL Developments as we are an authorised reseller, but also heres the Destinator link to the resellers also, hope that helps.
D6 is proving very popular, its very easy to use and install, and very upto date, latest maps and postcodes, and if you are new to PDAs and sat nav, its a doddle to install and use each day:
Hope that helps!
Bryson
DSL Developments Destinator page:
http://www.dsldevelopments.com/Destinator/destinator.asp
Destinator 6 site: http://www.destinatortechnologies.net/uk/products/purchase/

Best car navigation solution for Raphael?

Hi there,
I am looking for a good car navigation solution for Raphael (for travelling in Europe). After reading infos about TT which seems to work at least with the latest releases and Navigon (for which I am not that sure ...), I now read about Tele Atlas McGuider which also seems to be quite good and even less expensive, but it seems to lack TMC or other traffic assistance support which is crucial for me (radio broadcasted or via internet, I do not mind, but it is a must).
I know that there are some other solutions out there. I wonder if you guys have experiences to share, also w/regard to VGA screen resolution and so on.
Thanks!
Eriol

I like the CoPilot Live, works very well and has a nice look and feel.

Co Pilot live is ok, but the traffic part of it is rubbish compared with tomtom. There is no visual display of traffic incidents ahead on the map, only a description that pops up with incident details which you either avoid or ignore. You can set it to automatically reroute, but you dont know whats going on. In my opinion, tomtom is currently the best.
I also found co-pilot slow to scroll around the map, but there again i dont have a fast mem card. Unfortunately there si no trial version available. make sure you get the version specific for the HTC diamond (also compatible with Touch Pro). It can be purchased online (from handango) cheaper than most retail stores.

Thx to both of you! I still would like to compare TomTom with McGuider ...
Eriol

McGuider
Hello,
I am using last version McGuider (7.x I think) and it work fine, but map and icons are too small, I and don't know if it can be repair.
Please if some one use thist program please write down here about how work.
Bye

Garmin XT is the best imo. TT cannot hold a candle to Garmin.

iGO 8
I think iGO 8 is the best solution for Raphael

Navigon
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen

jochenandries said:
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen
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Hi Jochen,
I have a stand alone PNA running Navigon 6.5, and I like it, too. But my experience with Navigon, especially running on my HTC Wizard (MN 6.x), is that the route calculation is rather slow and the whole app is not that fast on a PDA. This might be different on a Raphael due to processor speed, though. We also will use an Xperia X1 here: Is it possible to run MN7 on 800x480 screens?
Eriol

i maybe wrong, but some navigation programs will only run when the supplied memory card is installed. Installing the maps to another card will not work which therefore means you have to swap cards when using the software. Check before you buy!!!

jochenandries said:
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen
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Navigon is nice-- but once you're in the tunnel and lose signal it would say you've reach your destination I also don't like its route calculation-- it's giving me a longer route than tomtom

To my mind ist the default navigation (TomTom 7.451) the best. it uses vga, is fast, new maps
Eriol said:
Hi there,
I am looking for a good car navigation solution for Raphael (for travelling in Europe). After reading infos about TT which seems to work at least with the latest releases and Navigon (for which I am not that sure ...), I now read about Tele Atlas McGuider which also seems to be quite good and even less expensive, but it seems to lack TMC or other traffic assistance support which is crucial for me (radio broadcasted or via internet, I do not mind, but it is a must).
I know that there are some other solutions out there. I wonder if you guys have experiences to share, also w/regard to VGA screen resolution and so on.
Thanks!
Eriol
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ardsar said:
Co Pilot live is ok, but the traffic part of it is rubbish compared with tomtom. There is no visual display of traffic incidents ahead on the map, only a description that pops up with incident details which you either avoid or ignore. You can set it to automatically reroute, but you dont know whats going on. In my opinion, tomtom is currently the best.
I also found co-pilot slow to scroll around the map, but there again i dont have a fast mem card. Unfortunately there si no trial version available. make sure you get the version specific for the HTC diamond (also compatible with Touch Pro). It can be purchased online (from handango) cheaper than most retail stores.
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In Copilot7 there is indeed visual display of incidents ahead on the map, you also can get to incident-specific info in just three taps, reporting delay and other usefull info........
No need for automatic rerouting, you can let Copilot ask you what you want to do, after you have read the incident-info and delay time.....
No need for the diamond-version either, regular version runs great on my Touchpro....
See.......................you we're allmost right.....

Someone tried Navigon Mobile Navigator 7 for PDA on Raphael?
Is it compatible and full working?
Before then I buy, I asked to the support team, but no clear response about it.
Thanks.

NAVIGON Mobile Navigator 7 can work fine on Raphael, with this simple workaround.
You need a GPS port replicator (like Franson GPSgate) to solve the GPS signal stability problem on MN7.
I hope this can help who love this product family.

Sat Nav software for Touch Pro UK

Hello again
I am currently looking for a UK based sat nav programme for my Touch Pro.
Seems to be a few Nav N Go,Tom Tom and Copilot
Does anyone have a recommendation and will it utilise the touch screen
Thanks in advance

theoneeye said:
Hello again
I am currently looking for a UK based sat nav programme for my Touch Pro.
Seems to be a few Nav N Go,Tom Tom and Copilot
Does anyone have a recommendation and will it utilise the touch screen
Thanks in advance
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Welcome
Not sure 'bout UK nav, but iGo works great in the US.

Bruce Inman said:
Welcome
Not sure 'bout UK nav, but iGo works great in the US.
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Thanks for that I will check it for a uk version

Garmin XT..

I'm pretty boring. I have tomtom for in-car satnav and google maps for if i get lost walking round a city.
Both are free (whoo!) but remember google will require a data connection to download maps (free) as you go and tomtom requires you to buy the maps (i believe you can get a free city map when you sign up on their site)

Cool Cheers
I will have a look on the old Fleabay

alright mate,
i have co pilot and it rocks dude.
i use it with an external gps, but i have also tried my google maps with internal gps and that was fairly accurate.

I have copilot also. works great. I got it off amazon.co.uk for about £60. not cheap but very good. Loads of different voice, POIs etc if thats what you want.
I even use it on my motor bike and the buttons are big enough even if you have gloves on.

Garmin is good. And they have UK nav. Or you can try co-pilot. My friend Nina was using that and she said it worked great. Also she found some other GPS on internet like zorro. They must have UK based nav.

i've seen many GPS tests on WM platform, and i think that iGo Amigo is the best app available, with Navigon following shortly behind....
iGo Amigo
-- TTS
-- Signpost info
-- Lane info
-- Terrain

Best Navigation For Diamond 2

Which navigator is the best for HTC Diamond 2?
and which once work, the only one I think which is compatible with HTC Diamond 2 is iGo8 if I am wrong tell me.

ur wrong...tomtom works fine aswell

Copilot 8 works just fine

I use Tom Tom 7 and Ndrive, both work just fine.

Currently trialling Navigon Navigator 7, which also seems to work pretty well.

I use Destinator 7, NDrive, Garmin XT, iGO8, TomTom and the last couple of houres I'm testin Destnator 8.
All run stable, good speed, but which is best... difficult to say.
It depends on the trip-town-neighbor are used.

I've tried iGO, Copilot, and now I stick with Garmin. (mainly because I find they update their maps the most, and they have lots of custom cars to choose from).
I liked the UI of Copilot a LOT. But I noticed it made the Diamond 2 very hot.
I enjoyed the 3D view of iGo with the buildings, but it was very slow, and the maps were old as well.

I've used iGo8 on the Diamond and Diamond 2 for almost the last 2 years, mostly for work, and I'm very happy with it. Updated maps are easily available and I find the UI the most intuitive and quickest on the market. In comparison, TomTom seems strangely dated and is a nightmare when it comes to panning and zooming on the map screen. The Diamond 2 can sometimes get a little hot with iGo8, but I have it charging in the car at the same time so that can be a factor.
I only use it in portrait mode, landscape seems not to work on the Diamond 2 (or at least I can't be bothered to figure it out). But iGo always gets my vote!

Sygic is another option that works well on TD2 - similar in many respects to Tomtom in terms of menu structures and UI, but graphics are better and screen refresh rate is faster so it isn't as jerky.
Routing is questionable at times - Tomtom definitely wins out on that score.
Garmin, NDrive and CoPilot are also good, but iGo8 is the best for me by a considerable margin.

Tomtom defenitely wins.. it is also the only one that rotates immediately when you rotate the td2..

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I only use it in portrait mode, landscape seems not to work on the Diamond 2 (or at least I can't be bothered to figure it out). But iGo always gets my vote!
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I use on Diamond2 IGO 8.3.x - no problems with landscape, only what I need is set the screen rotation. I'm using IGO also due to the reason that there are only two companies which make maps of Cyprus.

I'm using both iGO and TOMTOM. iGO leads me to my destination with a long way. The same destination TOMTOM win. But in my country, TOMTOM map is old. So i prefer to use iGO anyway.

I also got diamond 2, and I'm sure Tomtom can run on it. And they provide the free trial. I used it and it's good, but after that I'm afraid the fee is unaffordable....You can have a look at zorro. A cheap and also nice gps which I'm using.

copilot
tomtom maybe cool if it auto rotates
but it costs a lot more than co pilot does

My vote
wheresmybeaver said:
I've used iGo8 on the Diamond and Diamond 2 for almost the last 2 years, mostly for work, and I'm very happy with it. Updated maps are easily available and I find the UI the most intuitive and quickest on the market. In comparison, TomTom seems strangely dated and is a nightmare when it comes to panning and zooming on the map screen. The Diamond 2 can sometimes get a little hot with iGo8, but I have it charging in the car at the same time so that can be a factor.
I only use it in portrait mode, landscape seems not to work on the Diamond 2 (or at least I can't be bothered to figure it out). But iGo always gets my vote!
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I use only igo 8.3 and 8.4 (amigo) in landscape mode on my diamond 2 lol
I must tell so that I have also Tom Tom 7.9 in portrait mode. Why ? sometimes I need a quick and dirty interface and tom tom is quicker than igo to start. Beside I like the "find the nearest emergency service".
But all for all, the best is igo

[Q] looking for a good navigation software

Hi group,
my good old navi device died today and i would like a software solution for my good old Leo.
I had a Route 66, which crashed every two minutes. Anyhow it showed extremely bad maps with almost no useful information.
I am looking for something working well on the LEO.
I don't care for 3D views, what i need is good 2D with as many roads names as possible.
Who could give me an info about a good navi software?
RIN67630

navigon is working very fast, tomtom also.
Garmin a little bit slower and igo harder to configure.

For me, the best is Tomtom Navigator 7

NDrive, IGO and Sygic
For Me:
1- NDrive --> Best for everything
2- IGO --> Quick.
3- Sygic --> Clear, Fast and not complicated

TomTom 7.918 , works well for me on HD2, easy to have & switch many maps, one of the few to have selection of european & asian maps I need.

TomTom 7.918
Mister B said:
TomTom 7.918 , works well for me on HD2, easy to have & switch many maps, one of the few to have selection of european & asian maps I need.
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Hi...
where and how to download the software?

robekia1 said:
For Me:
1- NDrive --> Best for everything
2- IGO --> Quick.
3- Sygic --> Clear, Fast and not complicated
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I've got to see iGO8
The current street numbers left and right are super!
Found it nice, but it could display better the street names, which do not bend around the curves and frequently do not display at all, for no apparent reason.
Which one is better? I do need very good 2d maps.
Thanks

redhuan9 said:
Hi...
where and how to download the software?
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here you go

I suggest "Mapfactor Navigator FREE" from here: http://navigatorfree.mapfactor.com/de/
It is absolutely free - both software and maps (worldwide!!), because the maps are OpenStreetMap-data (OSM) as actual as the maps will generated by OSM.
It works even fast as TomTom and has a 3D-View ...

For me, the best navigation software is iGO Primo 2.0.
And with the skin Sbertaud13, it is perfect

For me the best navigation app is Ndrive.
Works like a charm with HD2.

hi,i know everything about igo 8 if you need something.... i think that igo is the best

You could put Google Maps on your HD2 which is free for navigation.
Maps get downloaded as you go so are always up to date.

iran maps don't has for Tom Tom or igo
hi guys
Tom Tom and igo very good software navigation but all world map don't has for example Iran map i can't find for igo and Tom Tom .
and this is very bad

i normally uses google map and sygic from time to time, but sygic always expires and want user to buy it, so i just stick with google maps.