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Which new pocket PC should I buy ? (Help, please)

I currently own an O2 XDA IIi (HTC Alpine), I am quite satisfied with it but it has gotten a bit old, there is no OS upgrade, so I cannot enjoy many of the new apps which are made exclusively for WM5.0/6.0/6.1. I am wondering which device to buy. I thought about :
- getting an HTC Advantage
- getting an HTC Kaiser
- getting O2 XDA Flame (but WM 5.0!!!!)
- waiting for E-ten V900 or SE Xperia X1
I use my PPC as a phone (about 1-2 calls a day, 2-3 SMS a day), to play MP3 (about 1-2 hours a day), to play some games especially using FPSECE PSX emulator. I also use it as a "mini-PC".
The Advantage seems to be extremely powerful but I am afraid itmight be too big for me (I want to know how it compares to an XDAIIi with 2400 mAh battery thus making it thicker; I also want to know how the Kaiser compares to Nokia 6600 ).
HTC Kaiser also appears to be a good choice but I am not sure it will be powerful enough for me, especially with the driver problem.
I also thought of waiting for E-ten V900 or SE Xperia X1 (especially the latter), but I want a new PPC before July, and I am not sure when these devices will be released.
Another question : what about upgrading to Windows Mobile 7.0 in the future? Will it be possible ? Or is the question thoroughly irrelevant as the OS is still under development ?
Can you help choose my future device ? Thanks

have you looked into this? I see it on your list but is it at the top?
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx?lc=en&cc=us

mchapman007 said:
have you looked into this? I see it on your list but is it at the top?
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx?lc=en&cc=us
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The problem is that I want a PPC before July, but the device is quite impressive !

seether said:
The problem is that I want a PPC before July, but the device is quite impressive !
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I hear what your saying. I've been getting very anxious to upgrade my current ppc and the X1 is what I want. I told my wife, if I upgrade to the Tilt now, she will inherit it when the X1 comes out. She also would also inherit my 8525 if I got the Tilt now. apparently I'm out of my gaourd.... Needless to say, thats a ton of money just to get what I want.
Good luck with your descision....

ROLL UP FOR THE MYSTERY TOUR - wat the **** is that -
the fone looks ace - but that advert is everything that is wrong with america!

before i got my advantage [im getting another one soon...] i went on pdadb, and got the measurements. then i drew the outlines on some paper, and compared them to my hermes. the best thing was, it was thinner, and really not that much bigger...
kinda made the final decision about getting it
Rory

last info i got on the release of x1 was september

Jonjamesm said:
ROLL UP FOR THE MYSTERY TOUR - wat the **** is that -
the fone looks ace - but that advert is everything that is wrong with america!
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Nice. I thought Sony Ericsson was a Japanese company. Or they make the product and America promotes it?
Go here and pick you own region and give us your thoughts then.
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx

rorydaredkign said:
before i got my advantage [im getting another one soon...] i went on pdadb, and got the measurements. then i drew the outlines on some paper, and compared them to my hermes. the best thing was, it was thinner, and really not that much bigger...
kinda made the final decision about getting it
Rory
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So, does it fit in your pocket ? (My XDA IIi fits but it's a bit thick ) Is the performance really good ? (much better than that of Kaiser, for instance ?)

it's pretty much the same hardware as kaiser so it all comes down to if
sonyE is also too cheap to pay qualcomm for their driver

Well, depends wht pocket. School trousers... no. skinny jeans obviously not. tracksuit bottoms, yep. Blazer pocket definitely.
So it depends on where you want it lol.
Its about double the speed of any of my other devices. But i guess thats because the other two both lacked something, the tytn lacked the ram, and my touch lacks the processor.
The advantage has it all. which is why im getting another one.
Rory

Definitely NOT xda Stealth

hmm
my next toy will def be the X1 from sony just look awsome . as far as the advantage man thats not much money for a phone might as well buy a laptop or a EEE PC from asus they rock. love my EEE

Nice device, now sod off

Is it me or is this device just not all that popular?
I say this because if you look at the Diamond forum, that's busting with activity, and yet for some reason, the Raphael, which I fooking love I might add (frankly, if it doesn't have an integrated keyboard, it just doesn't win for me) - is just not attracting much attention.
I guess there's the fact it's a premium to the Diamond, and it's a bit fatter, but honestly, now that it's out, who here would still choose the diamond over it?

Olipro said:
Is it me or is this device just not all that popular?
I say this because if you look at the Diamond forum, that's busting with activity, and yet for some reason, the Raphael, which I fooking love I might add (frankly, if it doesn't have an integrated keyboard, it just doesn't win for me) - is just not attracting much attention.
I guess there's the fact it's a premium to the Diamond, and it's a bit fatter, but honestly, now that it's out, who here would still choose the diamond over it?
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Nope aint gonna happen. Methinks alot of the users who trawl endlessly from device to device have missed this in favour of the diamond. I prefer it to be a premium device with a less commercial crowd anyways, makes me enjoy my device a bit more if not many people have it. AND ofcourse, no keyboard means no go for me also.

Well the Diamond has been around a bit longer.
Since I leave my phone on my desk at work, most of my workmates have seen the Pro now. Only two had ever heard of HTC before. (Being in Finland, Nokia is pretty much what everyone has) But all asked more about it, and found it interesting. Even more so when I slid out the keyboard and showed that you can use the stylus to transcribe, then the real interest came about.
The Pro when not in use, just looks like a fat phone, and that scares some people. (Even though it is thinner than the N95 I upgraded from.)
Plus, I feel that the Diamond got a lot more push than the Pro seems to have done.
Luckily some apps on the Diamond do in fact work on the Pro, so not all is lost. But it is a shame that we have to look at two different forums. If the apps/hacks/tweaks work on both, then I think a lot more cross linking should be done!

I think the Diamond is the more available of the two at the moment (O2 UK don't have it) and a lot of people wanting to upgrade went there because this phone wasn't availbale.
On the keyboard ground though, the Kaiser was massively popular over the Polaris. Although, I'll be sticking with HW Keyboard devices from now on.
My 1.07775 pence
Ta
Dave

Have both Diamond and pro in our house
I like the diamond, but wife likes the pro, she does a lot more txt than me.

I think it's a case of the Diamond being around longer and the fact that in general it uses the same hardware. Therefore the questions that people ask are more likely to have been asked and answered on the diamond forum, than on here.

ryraum said:
I like the diamond, but wife likes the pro, she does a lot more txt than me.
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WTF! you just made the Pro a girly phone!

yeah, so we have our own little niche for now... sod the diamond, the Raphael is definitely superior, though AT&T's decision for the keyboard layout is crap

Also keep in mind that the touch pro is pretty much non-existent in the US. The diamond was just released here in the US with sprint, and the US 3G gsm version was also recently released, that's why you have so much interest. Once the touch pro is released by at&t you will see this forum explode with activity. The same thing happened last year when the kaiser was first released, and then when the tilt was released by at&t.

Girly Phone
Xtreme XL said:
WTF! you just made the Pro a girly phone!
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My good lady would love to girly, But is a senior manager and barks and bites.
(good job she can not read this)

My good lady would love to girly, But is a senior manager and barks and bites.
(good job she can not read this)
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you hope hehe
allot of my frined got the diamond and only me and a friend have the touch pro out of the 2 id say ours is better
my friend is on 02 and hes got one so 02 are selling them in the uk
tbh from day one i flashed the rom to romeos 1.05 and did a few little things to personalise it and its been really good so far my last handset was a kaiser and there are some things i miss from the the full screen tilt for instance should have been on this phone then it would have been perfect maybe thats just me spending a year with my kaiser (my girlfriend still thinks he kaiser is better) the t3d stuff took some getting used to but think the touch pro is a awesome handset

I know this is an international board, but I think once providers in the US start releasing it I expect a lot more activity in here.

I'm also surprised by the lack of action on the Raphael forum.
I've owned the Diamond (which is much more sexier than the Raphael). But I upgraded to the Raphael as soon as it became available because of the cardslot and more memory. I don't txt that much so the keyboard isn't that important to me (but nice to have )
Guess the Diamond is more popular at the moment. Or al lot of the Diamond owners are saving to upgrade to the Raphael

I think the Touch Pro will become more popular in time, but now maybe it's to expensive for some people. There are also a lot of people who purchased the Diamond and later on they discovered that the Touch Pro was coming out, one colleague of mine regrets that he has bought the Diamond.
but like Olipro said Nice device, now sod off

If I get my hands on one, and this is my local forum (so to speak) I would rather it was quieter. Athena Elf and to some extent Hermes were great (Hermes ws just a bit too big) but Kaiser was just too huge. And I used to spend a lot of time in the Diamond forums whe it first came out, but it instantly filled wth noobs (I know we all wer once) when it was released on the networks. Then I left because it went from interesting discussion about the device to problem solving.
I think the Pro is just too expensive to become insanely popular in a Diamond-esque way. In a similar way to the Athena, its for a pretty specifc user.
For people who dont mind the bulk but are just general users, they can get a kaiser for about £150 on ebay, or £200 new. Or if theyre a general user, but wnt small and thin, they can get a Diamond (£250) so £500 plus for this is a bit unjustifiable until prices drop...
So if I get one I hope it stays small like it is now, and with very knowledgable people rather than noobs.
Rory

Even the Touch Pro isnt released everywhere. In germany the Vario IV is in stock since today. I think in a few weeks this forum wil be much more popular.

Well I looked at the Diamond, but I'm glad I decided to hang out for the TP as it's clearly worth the wait IMO I think give it a few more months and there will be a lot more members posting here

I have also moved from diamond to pro, becuase of more memory and sd card + keyboard. But some reason, the only thing that bothers me , some roms on diamond are extremely fast..But on pro with all the custom roms I have used , for example programs scrolling and opera scrolling is still slow.
I just wish there is a bit more custom roms here,,,so that with competition , the roms will get better.

I believe(not a fact) the diamond people are holding out for the HTC touch HD which also just got the US FCC seal of approval and its due at the end of october. YAY.
I was originally going to get the HTC Touch pro but it was too expensive + there is a keyborad, which i dam not too fond of; then i saw a great deal on the diamond and plummet. So i sold off my HTC TOuch cruise for the price of the diamond, i am waiting patiently to get the HD.

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I believe(not a fact) the diamond people are holding out for the HTC touch HD which also just got the US FCC seal of approval and its due at the end of october. YAY.
I was originally going to get the HTC Touch pro but it was too expensive + there is a keyborad, which i dam not too fond of; then i saw a great deal on the diamond and plummet. So i sold off my HTC TOuch cruise for the price of the diamond, i am waiting patiently to get the HD.
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I might hold out for the HD + Keyboard (if it ever comes).
Every No Keyboard Device is followed by a Keyboard one, usually. *Fingers crossed*
Dave

Blackstone Or ...

Well until recently I was certain that I would get myself a Blackstone, however I ha to wait till I was 18. However, MWC has just been and although there isn't much that would make me want to think about not going for the HD, there is the Stantum Multitouch although I don't suppose anything will support it very soon.
The thing is my current phone has just run out of credit so I need to make the decision now. Is it worth waiting another month and top up or is it worth taking the plunge?
ERM, thought I had posted this in Blackstone forum.

I have a blackstone myself. It's a great device, although one new device at the MWC has made my mouth water again .
Wait for the Samsung Omnia HD! Comparing the Blackstone to it makes the Touch ''HD'' look like a wannabe version of a hd device. o.o (which it is, kind of.)

antrak said:
I have a blackstone myself. It's a great device, although one new device at the MWC has made my mouth water again .
Wait for the Samsung Omnia HD! Comparing the Blackstone to it makes the Touch ''HD'' look like a wannabe version of a hd device. o.o (which it is, kind of.)
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The only annoying thing its Symbian, I think I would rather have a WinMO even though I've never owned a winMO.

Get the blackstone...
If u'r on usa at&t, get the testra HD for 3G...

As my dera friend galaxys says HD
Or perhaps to wait for Touch Pro II?...

Is the touch pro II a step up in terms of hardware at all though? Or will it just be Touch HD with keyboard and new version of TF3D?
I know this quetion has been asked a lot, but what are the chances that a .cab file will be released for the new TF3D soon?

HTC Universal to Samsung i780

I just got an i780....and I must say its the best winmo device i've ever used so far!!!!
Unbelievable specs, extremely stable...rock solid performance....incredibly cheap!!!
Guys, seriously....check out the i780, and I'm sure you'd switch whatever you have for one of these babies!!!
Cheers

Shame to hear you no longer have great Uni...so we don´t see you posting on this site so often
Good luck with your new device!

orb3000 said:
Shame to hear you no longer have great Uni...so we don´t see you posting on this site so often
Good luck with your new device!
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haha! I still have the uni too....just needed another new device (have been using the uni for over 2 years now! in fact this is the third uni i've bought!)
but, honestly, give the samsung i780 a shot.....its simply brilliant! the fastest and most stable ppc i've ever used! feature complete too....simply amazing! and for an incredibly low price
this is a great stop gap until the touch pro 2 launches and reaches a sensible price point
cheers!

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haha! I still have the uni too....just needed another new device (have been using the uni for over 2 years now! in fact this is the third uni i've bought!)
but, honestly, give the samsung i780 a shot.....its simply brilliant! the fastest and most stable ppc i've ever used! feature complete too....simply amazing! and for an incredibly low price
this is a great stop gap until the touch pro 2 launches and reaches a sensible price point
cheers!
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Ohh I see, so you still have it!
For me it´s the only device I have since 2005 and I love Uni!
I think I´ll wait for TP2 to reaches a better price. Samsung could be good but keyboard is a must for me, so I´ll wait...
Cheers,

orb3000 said:
Ohh I see, so you still have it!
For me it´s the only device I have since 2005 and I love Uni!
I think I´ll wait for TP2 to reaches a better price. Samsung could be good but keyboard is a must for me, so I´ll wait...
Cheers,
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The samsung i780 has a qwerty too....and after using a uni for years, i can type just as quick on the samsung. I'm totally in love with the i780 to be honest....mainly because its incredibly responsive, very stable as i mentioned.
I can play really high res videos without flickers on my device....dont need to convert or anything! The htc touch pro/diamond and all the other devices struggle to play the same videos. Reason being, the samsung has an intel marvel processor - 624mhz....which totally pwns!
Cheers

i got a i780 an i have to agree with you, it's really a great device!!
The only annoying specific is the SQVGA resolution, that has some incompatibility with certain software,
but for everything else is the best device i've ever used.

dreamtheater39 said:
The samsung i780 has a qwerty too....and after using a uni for years, i can type just as quick on the samsung. I'm totally in love with the i780 to be honest....mainly because its incredibly responsive, very stable as i mentioned.
I can play really high res videos without flickers on my device....dont need to convert or anything! The htc touch pro/diamond and all the other devices struggle to play the same videos. Reason being, the samsung has an intel marvel processor - 624mhz....which totally pwns!
Cheers
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oops, sorry, I was thinking on Omnia
I just checked samsung i780 and it looks good but size screen... is smaller than Uni right?
Maybe TP2 is not the right choice because it´s processor...In that case I am thinking on wait for the 2010 HTC models that hopefully will come with snapdragon...if not Toshiba leaked models look really nice!
Cheers,

New Phone

im getting a new phone but dont know what to get. I want something with a capacitive screen and it has to be pretty fast what do you guys reccomend. I was thinking omnia hd but from what I read no one knows if they are going to be getting updates or anything so i dont really want it now and no iphones not a big fan. So what phone do you guys think are good and fast thanks

The HTC Leo kinda sounds like what you want. It has the same minimalist form factor that the iPhone has, but it has a massive capacitive screen and a 1 Gigahertz Qualcomm Snapdragon Processor, so speed is certainly not an issue. If you want more info, you can view pictures and datasheets here. However, keep in mind that it hasn't been released yet, so some info may be subject to change.

is it going to come out some time soon because i want to get the phone within a month

No, it will take longer to come out, have a look on touch pro 2 if you want a hardware keyboard or Hero, or diamond 2
Those are the best available

the only one out of those that i actually like is the hero because im looking for a capacitive phone but its not really an upgrade from my g1 i want something a little better.

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No, it will take longer to come out, have a look on touch pro 2 if you want a hardware keyboard or Hero, or diamond 2
Those are the best available
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how is the resistive on the touch pro 2 is it really sensitive. Would it be easy to text message with the touch screen

The resisitive is quite good, but honestly having that great keyboard I never use on screen keyboard

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how are you and how is your work?My name is brayden and nice to meet you guys.I am so happy to join in here.Have a good day!

Capacitive? The only Windows Mobile with capacitive is the upcoming Leo.
Then there's the other OS's.
Android: Hero?
iPhone.
Symbian: Omnia HD?
We are xda-devs, and specialize in WinMos. Which currently don't support capacitive ;P

dang that hecka sucks i had a nokia n810 which was capacititve drove me nuts lol. God so those are the three i have to choose from huh? well i guess it might as well be the iphone i already have the g1 love it but im bored with it lol.