[REF] China Clone (SKU 12811 from DealExtreme - DX) - Touch GSM ROM Development

Hi dudes.
Here's the deal: I have read the entire forum seeking information on how to flash ROMs on the china clone for HTC Touch (also know as Dopod S1, Elf, P3450, etc.), especially the one sold by DealExtreme ([U]www.dealextreme.com[/U]), under SKU 12811, and, after tried ALL the ones available, did not find any working method so far.
So, this thread is meant to solve this problem only.
Let's work together and (finally) find out how to do it!

Hello,
I have also create this post today.
I have the exactly same problem.
I have tried this but I always come to the penguin and then the phone reboots. I have done a hard reset several times, but I am not been able to go to the bootloader. Does anyone went far then this?

i try, but me don´t open the bootloader
various sites, incluing dealextreme how to access bootloader pressing reset + volume up, but dont seems working =(
(brasileiros aqui?)

bigfriendpunk said:
how to access bootloader pressing reset + volume up, but dont seems working =(
(brasileiros aqui?)
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pressing reset + Camera button.!

clany said:
pressing reset + Camera button.!
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This doesn't work as well.

bigfriendpunk said:
i try, but me don´t open the bootloader
various sites, incluing dealextreme how to access bootloader pressing reset + volume up, but dont seems working =(
(brasileiros aqui?)
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Portugues

Haha..
Its not a real ELF, so dont upgrade, the hardware is else and i will brick youre phone i think. This only works for the real Elf's and Elfin's not for clone's.
If you want to upgrade and more, then buy a real elf.
Sorry for this, BUT DONT TRY TO UPDATE IT WITH ELF OR ELFIN IMAGES.

iceman667 said:
Its not a real ELF, so dont upgrade, the hardware is else and i will brick youre phone i think. This only works for the real Elf's and Elfin's not for clone's.
If you want to upgrade and more, then buy a real elf.
Sorry for this, BUT DONT TRY TO UPDATE IT WITH ELF OR ELFIN IMAGES.
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DX already provided a ROM here, that is why I think is possible to upgade it. The question is how?

Reset + Camera Button = Master Clear

bigfriendpunk said:
Reset + Camera Button = Master Clear
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ok. But we need not to master clear but to enter the bootloader.....

ROM provided by DealExtreme
Hi dudes.
I'm still working on a valid method to flash ROMs on that phone/PDA (china elf clone)...
We all probably have find the same posts (even on DX Forum) teaching how to do it from the SD card (see http://www.gsmin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36578 and DX Forum too, with an image they provide).
Have anyone tried this?
I've done it but stopped on that bootloader problem...
My phone appears to enter on it by pressing VOLUME UP while do a soft reset ("stylus in the hole" ), but the screen gone black and don't show anything, forcing me to do a new soft reset to restart the phone.
Comments, please...

ok, i have one of them elf clones, the rom updates from the SD.
you put the (update.img) file in the Micro-SD card and press and hold the Vol-up key and reset.
that works for me.
why do you want to flash it anyhow?

I saw in the elf forum, someone managed to do it on the clones.
Not sure whether he is using Dealextreme phones.
But you can check out the threads i replied on the elf forum.
I remembered that its on the first page.

Reason to flash ROM
fat_fat said:
ok, i have one of them elf clones, the rom updates from the SD.
you put the (update.img) file in the Micro-SD card and press and hold the Vol-up key and reset.
that works for me.
why do you want to flash it anyhow?
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Hi fat_fat,
Answering your question, I do not want to flash the update image provided by DX. What I want is to flash any (other) Elf ROMs to the device, such as Onyx, Blue Elves, Shadow, etc...
Know any working method, please share with us.

adrianoercy said:
Hi fat_fat,
Answering your question, I do not want to flash the update image provided by DX. What I want is to flash any (other) Elf ROMs to the device, such as Onyx, Blue Elves, Shadow, etc...
Know any working method, please share with us.
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Go ahead, if you want to have a lovely desk ornament. If you want to flash ROMs written for Elf, you buy an Elf.

adrianoercy said:
Hi fat_fat,
Answering your question, I do not want to flash the update image provided by DX. What I want is to flash any (other) Elf ROMs to the device, such as Onyx, Blue Elves, Shadow, etc...
Know any working method, please share with us.
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ahmm actually. you would have to get the original rom, extract it mod it and pack it.
you will not be able to flash it with an HTC rom. the hardware is similar, it uses the omap850 and all, but things like the LCD and the cam are different. so you would have to edit the image you have.
on the battery, does it say HTG ?

i have the same problem. also i bought an 4 gb micro sd and it doesnt recognize it. doew any one else have the same probem?

Hi Every one
The clones looks like ELFs but they are not and all chinese clones run a modified WM based on WIN CE6 including even iphone clones
They had their specific hardware (not as ELFs) so they need their own drivers to run meaning you cannot upgrade it with elf roms UNLESS one of the developers cooks a special roms to it based on their own rom

my cloned phone was in portugese and to have it sent back to the seller i had to spend almost the same amount as i bought it so i took the risk with the DX rom and it was successful thank God
what i did was:
*downloaded the image
*formatted a micro SD card
*copied the image to the card
*inserted the card
*did the volume up + power key thingy
*the device showed it was downloading the image (heart thumping now)
*took about 10 minutes the device rebooted
*now i have an english speaking china cloned HTC Touch

update rom
To enter rom update on my clone i discovored that the correct combination is: volume up + red button and sof reset it!

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please help!!! i upgrade with corrupt ROM

Friends,
I mistakenly upgraded my HTC S710 with corrupt ROM. Now i am stuck at boot-loader but everytime in get INVALID VENDOR ID, how to bypass this.
I can't run USPL because it does not connect with activesync
skchattha said:
Friends,
I mistakenly upgraded my HTC S710 with corrupt ROM. Now i am stuck at boot-loader but everytime in get INVALID VENDOR ID, how to bypass this.
I can't run USPL because it does not connect with activesync
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just hard reset your phone. and then try reflashing.
I tried hard reset several times but does not work.
Friends,
is it possible, if i can check vendor ID and somebody expert on ROMs cooking can give me any ROM wih that vendor ID so atleast i can flash it 100% once
Later i will flash it with latest ROM.
Pls help!!!!!!!!
skchattha said:
I tried hard reset several times but does not work.
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Its strange that are not able to git it through a hard reset. may be ur not doing the hard reset properly. u have to switch it off and then press power key along with the two soft keys for five seconds and then leave the soft keys but not the power key. keep pressing the power key for 5 to 10 seconds and when u see the message press green (call) key.
corrupted rom
most of the roms i downloaded from this site are corrupted, could anyone help me with a good htc s710 rom
Amyral82 said:
most of the roms i downloaded from this site are corrupted, could anyone help me with a good htc s710 rom
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if so you try looking at http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=windows mobile&model=Vox
Amyral82 said:
most of the roms i downloaded from this site are corrupted, could anyone help me with a good htc s710 rom
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You picked up a 3 year old thread. Which are your problems? Solutions much depend on the state of your device. Just tell as detailed as possible:
- your device
- the boot-status
- what you want to achieve
- what you have tried already
Mind that not all ROMs can be put on all devices (CID lock) so if a ROM does not upload the device it is not "corrupted" - it is just discovered to be "non matching". Cooked/custom ROMs cannot recover from a non-booting device. Starting with the shipped ROMs site is the best approach if you find the original one for YOUR device. If not, then more sophisticated methods may have to apply - depending on your problem.

HELP PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE (emergency)

Hello guys ..I know it's my first thread and it's kind of mean to ask for a favor from the first time.
but here's what happened .
I have an official windows Mobile 6.1 downloaded from the official htc website on my kaiser (tilt)
but the HTC screen plug in didn't have weather working on it.
so I decided to download some other HTC home plug-in from one of the website
it's called freewarepocketpc.net
after the download I installed it on the storage card memory
installation required restart.
after the restart the problem started
it cannot open windows,
it gets to the today screen then it gets stuck before openning HTC home screen
after it gets stuck it reboots by itself to go back to the same problem
I tried to take the Micro SD card out before i reboot.
but nothing happened .
it will get stuck and reboot.
I took the sim card out but the same thing happened
I wanna format this kaiser but I cannot establish a connection between the computer and the phone ..
so please tell me what to do.
I took the battery out of the phone in home that it goes to factory setting and take the home plug in out ..I'm hoping
but please I need the phone so bad
I have everything on it.
give me some ideas please..at least to format it.
please
I will appreciate it
thanks
Simple........ read the forum.....
Just perform a "Hard Reset"
Your kaiser will be reset back to factory ( all personal files are gone )
Ninlour said:
Hello guys ..I know it's my first thread and it's kind of mean to ask for a favor from the first time.
but here's what happened .
I have an official windows Mobile 6.1 downloaded from the official htc website on my kaiser (tilt)
but the HTC screen plug in didn't have weather working on it.
so I decided to download some other HTC home plug-in from one of the website
it's called freewarepocketpc.net
after the download I installed it on the storage card memory
installation required restart.
after the restart the problem started
it cannot open windows,
it gets to the today screen then it gets stuck before openning HTC home screen
after it gets stuck it reboots by itself to go back to the same problem
I tried to take the Micro SD card out before i reboot.
but nothing happened .
it will get stuck and reboot.
I took the sim card out but the same thing happened
I wanna format this kaiser but I cannot establish a connection between the computer and the phone ..
so please tell me what to do.
I took the battery out of the phone in home that it goes to factory setting and take the home plug in out ..I'm hoping
but please I need the phone so bad
I have everything on it.
give me some ideas please..at least to format it.
please
I will appreciate it
thanks
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if it wont let you do anything hold down both soft keys and push the stylus and hold them all in/down until the hard reset/clear storage screen comes on, press send to start reset then send to reboot when prompted to
if non of the above work put the phone in bootloader manually (see the wiki) and flash a different rom
sd73ta said:
if non of the above work put the phone in bootloader manually (see the wiki) and flash a different rom
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yup...
as sd73ta said...
as long as you can put the phone in bootloader mode, your ok
just put it in bootloader mode (keep the camera hard button pressed and insert the stylus for soft reset)
you then see the tri-colored screen known as the bootloader...
then, insert your USB cable and ignore the fact that activesync is not working...
flash the rom you want to flash...and it will work hopefully
there! i just saved you some wiki time reading cause your in a panicked mood but after this please read read read...
thank you so much guys for the fast response..
I can't wait to go home and try it out!!!!
you will save my life this way.
because i use the phone as a modem to get my online classes done.
so now i don't have to go to the library if it worked!
IT WORKEDDDD!!!!!
but i had to download a new ROM..
I used the camera botten with the softrest!!
but you know what I'm in a mood for some customized ROM
what's your favorite one guys?
Ninlour said:
but you know what I'm in a mood for some customized ROM
what's your favorite one guys?
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Just test all custom rom if u really in mood to use one.
flashing one rom is less than 5mins using SD. Then u will find one which will best suit ur need
p/s : and maybe u could modify ur thread topic since ur prob has been solved
I would use this ROM, they seem very stable and work well on my Tilt. Good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428261
PLEASE READ THIS THREAD BEFORE YOU TRY TO FLASH A COOKED ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
Ninlour said:
IT WORKEDDDD!!!!!
but i had to download a new ROM..
I used the camera botten with the softrest!!
but you know what I'm in a mood for some customized ROM
what's your favorite one guys?
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Best advice I can give you is search and read. Read the wiki. This is an obvious suggestion but it will help in more ways than one. You get the answer to your question but you also learn the correct terminology which HELPS YOU TO ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS Since you are new at flashing, i would suggest you keep an open mind, experiment, but research to see if your chosen methodology is good before you turn your device into a brick.
Prerequisites:
1. update your bootloader to something brick proof.
2. make sure you pick a radio which is compatible with the rom you have chosen.
What to look for?
1. Usually the chefs are nice enough to place a date on their threads when they announce a new build. Keep your eyes open for that and also updates within the threads as the builds, bugfixes, and download locations are updated sometimes multiple times a day on hot threads.
2. start with a bloated full build which is full of aps and tweaks and decide what you like/dislike about it. You may find that you rarely use some of the stuff and want to run a bit leaner.
3. Find a completely stripped down lite build and build it up piece by piece with cabs(cabinet file installers). You've now seen both sides of the spectrum while also gaining some flashing experience.
What to do next?
Now that you have decided which utils and apps you need, tweak the settings and dial them in. You'll learn much by playing with settings and watching the behavior of the device change.
And Finally:
Find a build which is as close to what you settled on yourself. Chances are the chefs have put something together which will surpass your expectations and can be modified the way you like it with just a few cabs/tweaks after install.
Good Luck.
Ninlour said:
what's your favorite one guys?
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Have you read the WIKI?
This is specifically requested that you not start a thread that asks about ROMs. It could get you banned.
Recommend that you start reading before you get yourself into more trouble than you want.

Screen is not responding

My screen stopped working suddenly.
It will not respond to anything, no matter how hard I press on it.
What could have gone wrong?
Do I need to flash it back to ATT firmware before I send it back for HTC manufacture warranty?
Thanks for the help !
What rom are you using? Did you try with another ROM? I'm asking because maybe it's not hardware problem.
pilgrim011 said:
What rom are you using? Did you try with another ROM? I'm asking because maybe it's not hardware problem.
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Hi, I am using RRE Win 6.1 rom, and I have been using it for at least 3 months.
I was just wondering, is it possible that I turn off the touch screen capability accidentally? It was just working fine a few hours ago, and before I tried to make a call, it was just in my pocket.
Well, everything is possible. I would suggest that you flash some other ROM, preferably stock, and if the problem isn"t solved (and this looks like a hardware issue ), revert the phone to stock SPL and bring it to the repair center.
pilgrim011 said:
Well, everything is possible. I would suggest that you flash some other ROM, preferably stock, and if the problem isn"t solved (and this looks like a hardware issue ), revert the phone to stock SPL and bring it to the repair center.
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I removed the screen protector and saw a dark spot underneath the screen when the screen is off.
But whenever the screen lights up, it looks normal.
So it seems like the screen got damaged, , but I have never dropped the phone, and it's usually inside my pocket.
I flashed the stock ROM, but when it asks me to tap the screen to set up the device, I can't, coz i can't tap it.
Also, how do I revert it back to stock SPL?
Thanks
ah_hin said:
I flashed the stock ROM, but when it asks me to tap the screen to set up the device, I can't, coz i can't tap it.
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Place a file called "welcome.not" (no quotes) in the root of the SD card - this should bypass the windows welcome screen. (simply make a blank txt file and rename it to welcome.not [make sure it isnt welcome.not.txt])
ah_hin said:
Also, how do I revert it back to stock SPL?
Thanks
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Read the Hard SPL thread
Beeble said:
Place a file called "welcome.not" (no quotes) in the root of the SD card - this should bypass the windows welcome screen. (simply make a blank txt file and rename it to welcome.not [make sure it isnt welcome.not.txt])
Read the Hard SPL thread
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I tried running the SPL, but there is a on screen prompt for the botloader.exe, and ask me to let it run or not.
I can't select yes, because the screen doesn't work.
Is there a way to work around this? I tried the enter button, and the circle button, none works.
Thanks
MyMobiler: http://www.mymobiler.com/
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MyMobiler: http://www.mymobiler.com/
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thanks for the suggestion, but the same goes for mymobiler, when it tries to sync with the phone, it prompts whether the program is allowed to access the phone, so any other things that i can try?
Yes!!
But its a little long winded (and i'm a little drunk - so it could be an interesting journey!!)
this assumes you have a UC capable rom (there are other ways to acheive exactly the same thing - i just dont know enough about them).
1)
Create a UC setup to either
i} install mymobler
and / or
ii} install AEButton plus (and then copy a specific config file over)
2)
Hard reset (having already placed welcome.not on the SD card)
3)
With luck (and for that i mean i think) you will have either pc access to your touch screen (my moblier) or [ii]a keyboard button assigned to left softkey to accept the install (or possibly both if you want!)
(if you like the AEB solution please PM me and i'll make the config file for you)
Once you have that you should be able to install most software & so reset the SPL.
I have no idea if the stock ROM is UC capable - if not:
I dont know if it is possible to restore the SPL to stock and then flash an offical AT&T rom - before you try that route make sure you have read everything, asked the experts if required, and have everything you need - i'm not taking any responsibility for it!!)
(please forgive obvisous errors & typos - while i was out at the pub having a relaxing beer some [email protected] moved all the keys about on my keyboard!)
Wow, same problem happened to me, screens stopped working. You gotta press it with 2 thumbs on the same spot to make it work.
ah_hin said:
My screen stopped working suddenly.
It will not respond to anything, no matter how hard I press on it.
What could have gone wrong?
Do I need to flash it back to ATT firmware before I send it back for HTC manufacture warranty?
Thanks for the help !
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I just had this very problem with My AT&T Fuze. I have had it for 10 months, and fortunately it was still under warranty. Apparently, there are MANY problems with the touch screen on this model. My previous model was the 8125. There was a frame around the screen, and it offered protection that is not available on the Raphael. To answer your question, I never unlocked or flashed this phone, so I was good as far as the return, but I would HIGHLY recommend that you reflash an authorized (ie OEM) rom to your phone before the exchange.
Good luck!
MrRuss
If you cant fix ur screen,
than HTC's warranty should be able to cover you.
Hopefully.
I went to a Att device support center, and luckily, they exchanged the phone for me.
Thanks for all the help and input !

Screen stuck on red green blue and white

First of all please be gentle! I am a complete novice and this is my first post. I have a Touch Pro on a Vodafone contract. I downloaded the recent ROM software upgrade from the Vodafone web site and began the transfer to my phone having followed all the advice. However, the download got stuck at 12% and no matter how many times I start over again it will not go past that point. Worst still the phone is now locked on a red/green/blue/white screen with the message "Upgrade ROM code error Please try again". the error message on the Vodafone software download is No 302. I have tried Vodafone technical help but as I was due for a new phone anyway they have sent me a Touch Pro 2 but don't seem to want to help me resolving the problem with my "old" phone. It is only 5 months old (replacement insurance phone) and in good condition but useless if it can't be made to work.
Can anyone help with simple instructions on how to download a ROM that will work. If not does anyone want to make me an offer for the phone? Currently locked on Vodafone but I am sure you guys out there have the skill to resolve that one.
Many thanks,
Hollybeau
So, they aren't asking you to send it back, I take it? If that's the case, then the first thing I would try would be to flash with the stock rom, if you can find it (not the upgrade that quit on you). If that doesn't work, then just try to flash hard spl. If hard spl goes through ok, you're golden and can flash any raphael rom you want. If it doesn't, the phone is probably toast. You got a new one, so just use the old one as artwork.
Thanks Farmer Ted,
Unfortunately I do not know the orginal stock ROM. It is not on the Vodafone web site and the HTC site keeps telling me that all the likely candidates are "not suitable" ( I assume this is beacuse it is some sort of Vodafone variant). I am afraid that "flash hardspl" means nothing to me - I told you I was a novice! Can you direct me to what and where please.
What bugs me is that here is a phone worth £200? but for a problem caused by Vodafone's buggy software upgrade.
Hollybeau
Start Here.
Best way to find everything you want to know about flashing ROMs.
Lol.
Hard SPL is a bootloader that allows you to flash any rom you want (not just vodaphone). It also has over-write protection, so if you get into the situation you're currently in, the phone won't be bricked. If you can flash it (make sure you flash the gsm version in the raph rom forum), you are fine and dandy.
If you can't find the stock rom online, you may be able to flash the upgraded rom off of your sd card (I believe this will work with a stock rom and stock spl, but am not 100% sure). Re-name the .nbh image file to RAPHIMG.nbh. Format your sd card (1-2 gb works best) to FAT32, and put the image on the root of the card. Go into bootloader (well, you're already there, you may not need to) by holding volume down and soft resetting. Hold vol. down until the tri-color screen appears. At the prompt, press the power button, and let the flash run its course. Soft reset when it says that the update was a success. Let the phone boot up until it gets to the the alignment screen, the hard reset and boot it up.
If you don't have an .nbh file, and instead have a .exe file from vodaphone/htc, then you should be able to extract the contents with either winrar or 7-zip (google) to get at the .nbh image file. I've done this before, and it works fine.
Many thanks to all who have replied. I have fixed the problem. It turns out that it was the download to my PC that was at fault. I downloaded the Vodafone software to my lap top and ran it from there and it has recovered the phone. I now have a spare, and working, Touch Pro. I may try the HardSPL and other ROMS just to use the phone as a test bed. Alternatively, anyone out there want to make me an offer?
Hollybeau
Hollybeau said:
Alternatively, anyone out there want to make me an offer?
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Ask in market place and you will probably get some takers

[Q] HTC HD2 CYANIGENMOD7 ANDROID TO STOCK WinMO 6.5 - HELP!!

Hello, guys.
Well, I love android and all, but I have had problems. Overheating problems for the most part, followed by freezes. I love my HTC HD2 too much for letting the problems occure or continue experimenting, since I'm new to the flashing-scene and
stuff.
I'm really looking into getting it back to stock. Can anyone please help? Obviously, I will need the HSPL to be original and everyting.
I have made 2 different ext. partitions I think on the SD card.
Can anyone please help? Any detailed help is HIGHLY appreciated.
BTW: My phone is LEO 512 MB, EUROPE VERSION, not T-mobile! Thanks!!
BUMP!!
Anyone? I'm really in need for this. I would like appreciate some help on this one, guys!
hey there,
to flash your hd2 back to stock windows 6.5 you need the original rom from the htc website. go in the UK version of the website, go to the bottom and select region as United Kingdom. Then click the help button. then select the hd2. go into new and downloads. download the rom upgrade for HD2. make sure you download the normal one, i mean NOT the one for o2 or T-Mobile or stuff like that. once you download the file, power down your fone. then turn it on with the volume down buttone and power button firmly pressed. dont let go until you see a red, green, blue and white screen. this is the bootloader. connect your hd2 to your computer via the usb cable. the "serial" word will change to "usb". all you need to do now is run the rom upgrade you downloaded earlier. run the file. folow the on-screen instructions and VOILA. u r back to stock hd2 with windows 6.5 Let me know how it goes and give me a thanks if u found this useful.
Post this in the dedicated HD2 forum, and you are bound to get more help.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
adil1508 said:
hey there,
to flash your hd2 back to stock windows 6.5 you need the original rom from the htc website. go in the UK version of the website, go to the bottom and select region as United Kingdom. Then click the help button. then select the hd2. go into new and downloads. download the rom upgrade for HD2. make sure you download the normal one, i mean NOT the one for o2 or T-Mobile or stuff like that. once you download the file, power down your fone. then turn it on with the volume down buttone and power button firmly pressed. dont let go until you see a red, green, blue and white screen. this is the bootloader. connect your hd2 to your computer via the usb cable. the "serial" word will change to "usb". all you need to do now is run the rom upgrade you downloaded earlier. run the file. folow the on-screen instructions and VOILA. u r back to stock hd2 with windows 6.5 Let me know how it goes and give me a thanks if u found this useful.
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Hey there. That setup or instruction was my first try. I thought this would not be any problem, but no, it ****ed up the whole phone and software. It was unable to boot or anything after that.
Gladly I renamed ruu.signed to img.signed or something and put it to root on SDcard, and it worked. First time it ****ed up, all though second try it worked (thank god, lol). Now I sent it back for repair, and I think they changed motherboard. Will get it back within a week. But thanks for your help anyways!
OH! well it always runned just fine for me. Anyways atleast youll get your fone repaired.
adil1508 said:
OH! well it always runned just fine for me. Anyways atleast youll get your fone repaired.
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Hey again!
Yeah, I think it runs just fine for someone, but sometimes it could get a bit messy.
At least I know I was unlucky when I tried. I sent the phone for repair, and they changed the motherboard!
It runs quite smoothly now. Stabile when it starts heating and everything.
Not sure if I will sell it and buy one X or just give it android and run with it for some months/year
Thanks for trying to help anyways.
Hey,
thanx again for the thought. if u have the bugdet definatly go for the one x. . but a word of advice, dont use custom roms on that fone until u absolutely get tired of the default rom. Just a thought to stay safe.. Hope u get it.

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