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Gprs and Gps Questions

Hi I’m pretty new to this. If I may can I ask a few questions? I search the internet first but I haven’t found the answer. First I flash to Dutty ROM 4 and work great but it’s always trying to connect to Gprs network but it doesn’t? I just load up Garmin XT it only works if I have the phone in airplane mode? If not in airplane mode the phone lockup? Also when trying to use Gps tries to connect to Gprs? Thank you for looking

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Blitzcell said:
Hi I’m pretty new to this. If I may can I ask a few questions? I search the internet first but I haven’t found the answer. First I flash to Dutty ROM 4 and work great but it’s always trying to connect to Gprs network but it doesn’t? I just load up Garmin XT it only works if I have the phone in airplane mode? If not in airplane mode the phone lockup? Also when trying to use Gps tries to connect to Gprs? Thank you for looking
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Have you tried looking in the forum where you got the rom from? I bet they can help you more there? Just a suggestion.

i had the same problem on my kaiser, just use kaisertweak to disable the aGPS thing. and presto =) ..

thank you Isaygarcia

hey guys, i'm still having problems with Garmin on my Kaiser with Dutty's WM6.1 ROM. i had no problems before installing his ROM, but now the program just quits after the splash screen. I've tried reinstalling multiple times and tried turning off aGPS.
any other ideas?

AndyNJ said:
hey guys, i'm still having problems with Garmin on my Kaiser with Dutty's WM6.1 ROM. i had no problems before installing his ROM, but now the program just quits after the splash screen. I've tried reinstalling multiple times and tried turning off aGPS.
any other ideas?
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Try disabling HTC Home in your today screen then soft reset...see if that works.

Nothing.
Thanks though.

AndyNJ said:
Nothing.
Thanks though.
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Try using Dutty's Hybrid and see if the problem still exist.

alright. i'll try that tomorrow and see what happens and then report back for anyone else who may be having this problem.

Also. Don't forget to hard reset after a flash. I've seen the constant attempts to connect to gprs and Media Net before. Hard reset. Always hard reset after a fresh flash. Read dutty's wiki which is on the second post of the link attached. This is a very good rom. I suggest you try it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383638

Well, it starts up, but now it won't see my internal GPS receiver. it only looks for an external bluetooth one.

Macgyvec3 said:
Also. Don't forget to hard reset after a flash. I've seen the constant attempts to connect to gprs and Media Net before. Hard reset. Always hard reset after a fresh flash. Ready dutty's wiki which is on the second post of the link attached. This is a very good rom. I suggest you try it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383638
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alright, i'll try this one too.
thanks!

AndyNJ said:
alright, i'll try this one too.
thanks!
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No problem. Let me know how it goes. When you first start using it. Run Quick GPS and hit download. It may have already downloaded. You'll see what I mean when you open Quick GPS. Then run GPS Test. The first time you run GPS Test it will take a few minutes to get a GPS lock(top right of the screen it will say FIX and 3D). Every time after than it should only take about 30 secs. Usually I run GPS TEST then I run tomtom or Garmin. GPS Test gets faster locks. Let us know how it goes.

Macgyvec3 said:
No problem. Let me know how it goes. When you first start using it. Run Quick GPS and hit download. It may have already downloaded. You'll see what I mean when you open Quick GPS. Then run GPS Test. The first time you run GPS Test it will take a few minutes to get a GPS lock(top right of the screen it will say FIX and 3D). Every time after than it should only take about 30 secs. Usually I run GPS TEST then I run tomtom or Garmin. GPS Test gets faster locks. Let us know how it goes.
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This is not normal behavior with Quick GPS, fix hould be near-instant, less than 10 seconds. Even the first time. Dutty's ROM takes 4 minutes to fix the first time, no matter what Radio. The following day same thing. Original ROM is 10 seconds fix. Tell me what's wrong where?

the-uki said:
This is not normal behavior with Quick GPS, fix hould be near-instant, less than 10 seconds. Even the first time. Dutty's ROM takes 4 minutes to fix the first time, no matter what Radio. The following day same thing. Original ROM is 10 seconds fix. Tell me what's wrong where?
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Quick GPS doesn't make any locks. Quick GPS only downloads data that knows where the satellites should be and only helps other programs find a lock faster. Maybe you were talking about GPS test.
You're right that locks take longer with almost any rom aside from an OEM rom. It still shouldn't take a few minutes after you get your first lock. If that's the case for you I recommend changing your radio. My radio works well after the first lock. So have many others for me. Try them out. See what you get.

Macgyvec3 said:
Quick GPS doesn't make any locks. Quick GPS only downloads data that knows where the satellites should be and only helps other programs find a lock faster. Maybe you were talking about GPS test.
You're right that locks take longer with almost any rom aside from an OEM rom. It still shouldn't take a few minutes after you get your first lock. If that's the case for you I recommend changing your radio. My radio works well after the first lock. So have many others for me. Try them out. See what you get.
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I understand quickgps loads the positions up front. What the problem is though is that the first fix takes 4 minutes; of course afterwards it's quicker, but then leave it for the next day, it's 4 minutes again. The whole point of QuickGPS is to get it in 10 seconds.
So I tried with the original Radio ROM 1.27.12.17 and follow-up versions in the 27 series: low and behold: QuickGPS gives a quick-fix! But unfortunately this original Radio ROM doesn't work properly in WM6.1 - no sound issue.

i installed the latest dutty rom and i'm back to the original problem (garmin quitting after the splash screen).
i installed the rom and then got everything else set up how i want/need it before installing garmin. i think maybe some other software is interfering with it? but that doesn't make sense because i don't have anything on here that i didn't have when i was running WM6.0 with Garmin working.

I'm sure it's a compatabilty problem with wm6.1. See if there is an update available for your garmin.

i guess that would make sense since it started up on dutty's hybrid rom.
i'll check for an update, but i think i have the latest version.

GPS fix confirmed and then some!

I know we are all hit and miss with the GPS, but after following a couple of tips out there GPS locks on Google Maps in 10-15 seconds, finally! And it tracks beautifully as well. These are older tips, but it is this combo that seems to work wonders!
I followed this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427888
(but change dPollInterval to 500 and MAxBufferSize at 256)
and...
GPS hardware settings:
Prgram port is COM4, no hardware port, and baud rate is 4800. I could not find the website that I got this info from so forgive me for not crediting you!
Google Maps is configured to let Windows manage my GPS.
After the GPS is "warm" it tracks in what relatively feels like an instant now! And it might just be me but it seems to find more satellites. I have a Fuze on ATT.

theres a bajillion fixes on here for gps. its just gonna have different results. easy thing to do is update radio to 1.12. though if you do that, dont change the poll interval from 1000 to 500. i found thats a bad thing in combination with it.

download the at&t test rom......fixed my GPS issues. Now I get a lock within 10 seconds.

the link above method works best when deltete gps log files and disable agps and using gps test software

p51d007 said:
download the at&t test rom......fixed my GPS issues. Now I get a lock within 10 seconds.
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I have to agree here.

Where may I find this ROM?

hmm
I must say . The updated rom from htc for the fuze pretty much fixed my gps (and made performance of the phone much better).

Fourstarzzzz said:
Where may I find this ROM?
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You can find it on blownfuze.org, but most of the newer roms have the aGPS fixed, so it is a lot easier to get GPS fixes

GPS problem with cooked roms

This is usual thread all over net..
I have problem, a big one... Every cooked rom I have tried works great but GPS dont work. Fix takes 15 - 20 min quickgps updates normaly but no fix... with original rom and quickgps updated fix is under 30sec but i have problem with touch screen on original ROM. so i have spend 15 days of experimenting, flashing various roms, radios but no luck....
interesting is that when i connect external gps antena with amplifier i get fix around 1 - 2min.... then it works with integrated, but 2 hours later same problem...
Kaiser130 is my device
tried roms: shifu v1 & v2 basic & full, Dutty's WM6.1, REV_ROM_V8, SimpleOsManila, AtheneOS....
also i have tried exporting registry branch from original rom for quickgps and copyed quickgps files over but no luck.
no luck

I have used almost all of these roms and my lock is in 2-3 minutes. 1st, make sure you are using the recommend radio. If you use the wrong Radio, you will never get a lock. Also make sure it is not just your area; if there are only a few sat's then the GPS module in the phone will take for ever for a lock.

vratko28 said:
This is usual thread all over net..
I have problem, a big one... Every cooked rom
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C'Mon dude really... 3rd post and you come out dropping bombs like "every" and "it's the usual" and "a problem... a big one"
I have used many different ROMs here too and have not had a single issue with GPS working!
I think "every" and "usual" is disrespectful to the cooks here and that your issue is likely hardware (hence your comment about it working w/ an external ant) or possibly between the screen and the seat

have you tried gpstest to check your com ports and then set it manually?

I also had the same issues
already changed the com port and radio from 1.65.16.25 until 1.70.19.09 (KAISER Radio)

As u see raf1987 has same problem as me, yesterday I have tried original HTC WWE 6.1 rom but with same result.
I dont mean to disrespect cooks, and dont see what is problem with me having 3 posts??
k2rolla503 Yes I have tried gpstest, nonigps plot.... they find satelites but no fix 1 to 4 satelites all time but no fix.. signall strength is normal in all roms (graphicaly to me).

I too have the same problem.
I find the GPS fixes to be very flaky. I've used both the ROMs from Laurentius up through V10 and now using Phoenix II.3.
Laurentius ROMs I found I had much faster lock time if I downloaded the ephimeral file right before I used my GPS. We are talking 24 hours between uses. This could mean the difference between a 2 minute lock and a 20 minute lock. I've never gotten GPSTest to show me anything other than starting...
On Phoenix II.3, the ephimeral file only last for 3 days instead of 7 like Laurentius. Once I saw the fastest lock in my life ever on this ROM, it literally must have locked in 15-30 seconds. I have never seen it do that again. Currently it's taking me a good 10-20 minutes to lock on average. I have to start up my GPS 10 minutes before I go anywhere just to get it warmed up.
I've also tried fiddling with the assisted GPS setting on both ROMs. I found that with Laurentius the fix is slightly faster. On Phoenix I haven't noticed any real difference in getting a fix aGPS vs GPS. Nor do I find it assists in tunnels.
The only thing that really bothers me about aGPS is that I get that dialup connection dialog that says it fails to connect every time I use TomTom. I have to hit dismiss before it appears to start trying to get a fix. I've tried reapplying the connection settings for AT&T, that didn't seem to help much. It is super annoying.
In the end, GPS does work, but like the OP, I found that my fixes were consistently faster on the stock ROM than the cooked ROMs. I too mean no disrespect and I appreciate the hard work that goes in to each and every one of these ROMs even if I don't use them. I too like the OP just want my fix to be as fast as those claimed here and elsewhere. It can be frustrating to hear about these fast lock times and have to suffer with long lock times. It's especially annoying to me because I travel for business a lot and find that I am now nearly half way to my destination before I finally get a lock.
While I may not have many posts, I do follow these forums regularly. I hope that my input will be constructively used to find an answer if there is one to be found.

I have no issue using L26's TF3D V4, Athine OS Jan 22, Mbarvian Solace 1.5 and Josh' Revealed 21500. All has the GPS working fine. I'm not that particular that I measure individual response time.
As long as it locks within 1-2 mins (from nothing), it's ok to me.

hmm.... i think , i found the solution... don't know if it could work for others
now, I use PDA corner from Abusalza... with Radio version 1.70.xx.xx
so, after flashing your new rom... make sure you update the GPS support programs like quick gps , etc
then, execute your GPS program ( I use Garmin for this).. and make sure you are outside of your house, or apartment, or wherever..
the reason why my tytn II could not find satelites is because I did it in my house, did not think that outside my house could work (because my Trinity could detect satelites in my house without any support GPS program like quick gps)
then... your tytn II should detect the satelites and GPS is activated...
NB: sorry for my bad english

k2rolla503 said:
have you tried gpstest to check your com ports and then set it manually?
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I am having the same problem. The original Three (Australian) ROM would get a GPS lock within seconds.Now, I take 20smins to get a lock.
ROM version: AthineOS WWE
ROM date: 1/22/09
Radio Version: 1.65.24.36
Protocol version: 25.94.40.06H
I have just used GPS test and the only thing I changed was the baud from 4800 to 9600. Will try it out later, but hope it works.
http://www.smartphone.net/software_detail.asp?id=3170
PS Most of us know that GPS works only if there is line of sight with the satellites, so yes, I am outside on cloudless days when I try to get locks.
PPS If it dont work, I might go back to official ROM. http://www.htc.com/au/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=13&cat=2&dl_id=342.

flash back to WM6.0, there are no problems with gps. every fix in 30 sec.

Hmm I would like to go back to 6.0 but my provider has only this rom 6.1 for download that has touch screen problem...
Any link to 6.0 WWE would be helpful

Found 6.0 sry.... ill try and post reply

Search the Wiki. There're links to various WWE versions.

Hmm, I wonder then what the difference is between 6.0 and the higher version that causes this inconsistency in locking. This would seem to indicate software issue rather than a hardware issue. I love the newer ROMs but the inconsistency or complete latency in getting a lock can be extremely annoying especially when you need a lock quickly.

jorakae said:
Hmm, I wonder then what the difference is between 6.0 and the higher version that causes this inconsistency in locking. This would seem to indicate software issue rather than a hardware issue. I love the newer ROMs but the inconsistency or complete latency in getting a lock can be extremely annoying especially when you need a lock quickly.
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I changed the baud from 4800 to 9600 and so far, the GPS locks within 30 seconds. I need further testing, but perhaps the default settings of the cooked ROMs is causing this problem?

I have tried and sucesfuly cooked ROM from stock firmware, added some apps, replaced buggy touch.dll so far so good ROM is 6.1 (WWE 3.31.xxx) using radio 1.65.20.15 i think.
Yesterday cloudy weather with rain i got lock within 4min cold start after flash, today morning warm start 2min (still cloudy no rain) and around noon no clouds got lock in 5sec.
Big THANX to SHIFU for help with dll

help with dll?
hi Vratko,
could you provide more info on the dll that u got helped with?? cos as u can see, lots of us are facing the same problems....even i have tried all sorts of ROM's and radios....yet no success in getting a quick lock...any specific settings to be done?? any

Hi,
I have different problem on GPS, I am using Garmin DK Series, dated 01/16/09. The problem is if use GPS for more then 10 min, back of the kaiser started to heatup, if I turn it off, after a while it is fine. Otherwise, it is detecting the GPS faster. I have downloaded QuickGPS & SeaSGEE.
Is anyone having these problem.
Thanks

Vratoko:
5s ????????????????????????? Please do enlighten us.
Newwonder:
Can you please provide SeaSGEE link. What does it do? is it like quick GPS?

How to use GPS with Googlemaps preinstalled.

Hello everyone,
I have a HTC Touch Pro since october 2008 but are still unable to use the gps with google maps.
Google maps is preinstalled on my device but can never use the gps to locate my position.
Now I heart something about unlocking your gps of you htc touch pro before you can use your gps in google maps.
This is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=490400
I don't know if this is suitable for my HTC Touch Pro too.
I hope somone can help me.
Thanks a lot!
Rick

what rom are you running right now? Assuming you're using a GSM phone, I doubt verizon's method would work for you. Try flashing a new rom.

Rom version: 5.05.404.1 NLD
There is no newer rom version.
I bought my HTC Touch Pro without a carrier, so my HTC Touch Pro is unlocked.
But I can't use my GPS with applications as Google Maps as long as my GPS is locked.
But I don't know if I can use the fix which is discribed in the link I placed.

In GoogleMaps: Menu > Use satellite...
and wait for a fix... (could last up to 4-5mn depending on reception conditions)
But before, check in GoogleMaps options that you have let Windows to handle (integrated) GPS.

Yea it sounds ass backwards, but what he said is true. If your turning it on hitting gps and you get nothing,, thats about right. Wait a bit and see what happens. I use my phone for geocaching almost daily, and am running the stock att rom. My gps works perfectly besides the fact that it takes around 30 secs to lock. However trying to run (most) third party apps WITHOUT googlemaps running first. It will just sit there all day and never get gps. (depends what program were talking about but most will never get lock until google maps is running)

what radio are you on?

Also, I had a terrible time getting a GPS lock with Google Maps on my unbranded Touch Pro.
Recently I downloaded the latest version from www.google.co.up/gmm (think that's right enter it into your Opera browser) and it has improved tremendously. No GPS locks a lot faster - less than 30 seconds, whilst previously it would take minutes or not at all.
Try downloading a newer version and see how that helps.

Thanks!
All of you!
I download a new version of Google Maps and installed it.
After that I set all the properties the same as I had under Start>Settings>System>GPS.
And after about 20 seconds I had a fix and it worked.
(and this was in house)
Now just at the street I get a fix in about 5 seconds and I have a log of zero until one.
So thanks all!

Odd GPS issues

OK, so I've dug around the forums and have yet to really find anyone who had a similar issue and wasn't able to fix it with either FasterFix or GPSStatus so thought I'd start a new thread. If anyone knows this answer and knows it's in another thread then let me know and I'll shut this one down...
Anyways, the issue in a nutshell is that Maps refuses to work without "Wireless Networks" being checked (it throws up an error that tells me to turn on My Locations or to turn on either "Wireless Networks" or "GPS satellites" even though GPS sats is checked in the settings) and even then the accuracy is horrible (on tower-based, which is more or less to be expected since it's a triangulation, I believe), Navigation/Locations will both get a location but it appears to be "Wireless Network" based, GPSStatus shows a max of only 3/3 sats even outside on a clear day but no other app sees those even those 3 sats. I basically think my GPS chip is locked up. (Is that even possible?)
The GPS issues started one night on CoreDroid's V5.0 after working for quite some time on CD's various builds, including working on 5.0, so I flashed up to 5.1 and still no-go. Wiped everything, reflashed 5.1 and still nothing. Moved over to RCMixHD 5.9 and it still acts up. It used to be that I could uncheck "Wireless Networks" and it would just bounce off of the GPS sats but now nothing seems to see the chip. I've wiped everything, reflashed numerous times, flashed a new radio (the latest Mar leaked GB radio), gone inside, outside, around the house, around the town, etc etc etc, cleared the Maps cache, uninstalled/reinstalled Maps, reinstalled Locations several times, reset the GPS state with GPS Status, redownloaded the GPS data w/ GPS Status, changed out the gps.spade.so file in CoreDroid 5.0/1 with one from the Inspire Dev Forum (I think, may have been General) that modded files based off of FasterFix files that were supposed to fix the GPS if FasterFix doesnt (the files worked for a whole one test...then everything quit working right again) and I've reset the NTP to North America's server via FasterFix and STILL nothing. I'm getting rather frustrated at this point and any help would be appreciated. Thanks guys!

How about flashing back to stock Rom?
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What would the advantage be? I mean I've already flashed different ROMs and gotten the same issue so part of me doesn't care to flash another couple of times but another part of me wonders why it'd help any since it's just going to be overwritten when I flash back to RC or any other custom. Will flashing to stock somehow reset the GPS. I know flashing to stock is generally one of the first suggestions but I've always wondered how it actually helps. Guess I'm off to hunt down the stock on my computer while I wonder lol...thanks

Did you use RUU to get back to stock Rom and radio? RUU does more than just flash the Rom. It flashes the radio to stock. Only reason I'm saying this is cause someone else had Gps issues and when they went to stock unrooted, everything worked as it should.
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Do a forum search for inspire RUU. Should come up.
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Awesome, thanks. I was unaware that the Inspire had an RUU. Well, most RUU's I've run across have been packaged into a program like ODIN but I think I can do the RUU manually via ADB. Hopefully they have a program out, though. Think all my stock stuff has been done via ADB and the Hack Kit so I'll dig around for an all-in-one program. Thanks!

Sadness...no such luck even on RUU stock.

Just curious, what method did you use to do this?
Is this the same one you used?
http://www.filefactory.com/file/b50...60.19_26.06.04.06_M_release_166557_signed.exe
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I have been having similar GPS issues on my stock Inspire. After a long HTC customer service call, I was advised to do a factory reset on the phone. Voila, the problem appears to be solved. I now get 8 or 9 satellites and lock in about 30 seconds. Also, after this reset, my battery life is much better. So, I am not sure what bug I eliminated in the factory reset, but I accomplished something. What would affect both battery and GPS? I know this is not the same as for a rooted phone, but perhaps there is some connection. By the way, just what SNR do users with solid GPS performance get on GPS Test? I never get SNR over 25 on any satellite, whether indoors or out...

HtcOmega,
I helped another person with an inspire, so maybe it might work for you too, Try the link in my sig and see if replacing the gps.conf with one of mine may help you. It has been very successful so far, it might help with your dilema as well. And if your going to ask whats different about mine then fasterfix app, the answer is alot.
Let me know.

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HtcOmega,
I helped another person with an inspire, so maybe it might work for you too, Try the link in my sig and see if replacing the gps.conf with one of mine may help you. It has been very successful so far, it might help with your dilema as well. And if your going to ask whats different about mine then fasterfix app, the answer is alot.
Let me know.
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I was having the same issue as HtcOmega and decided check out your link. I must say that my GPS is working as it should now. Takes at most 30 seconds for a lock without the case on. I flashed the north america zip instead of choosing the north east version. Is there any reason why you wanted people to choose their specific region?

Primarily the reason is I broke up the USA into 6 regions and made a script for 62+ individual countries because I am not using the generic ntp servers from the pool, these are ntp servers specifically for that location, and by narrowing down the location and not using a general ntp it should make lock times faster. If you read the thread for the most part quick reading you will see that the NA script is made primarily for people who travel to many places frequently and do not want to keep changing scripts, as well as people in the common wealth countries would use the NA script.
I am currently testing out 1.2 with a handful of beta testers to see if the new script can be a little more consistent, there are new commands in the new script, which is phase one at least for the HD2 since the HD2 is a prt and lacks the support for true agps.