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A lot of people have problems with the TouchPro GPS especially for pedestrian use...
From stock the TP GPS is quite unsable in car especially with TomTom 7 and totally unusable for pedestrian use.
After 2 weeks of reading and testing tweaks, here are the results of my tests and the applied tweaks to enhance the GPS performance
A. With Advanced config 3.2 http://www.touchxperience.com/fr/ou...ads/9-advanced-configuration-tool-32-cab.html
1. disable A-GPS
2. disable GPS logging
3. logfile name must be empty
4. old logfile name must be empty
5. maximum size of logfile must be 0
6 delete the files : \windows\GPSLogFile.txt and \windows\GPSLogFileBack.txt
7. it seems that if TomTom is installed on a fast microSD decrease the lag(have to test to be sure)
With those changes car usage will be quite perfect
B. Then edit registry with TotalCommander http://ghisler.fileburst.com/ce/tcmdpocketarm.cab
Under: HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\
- Drivers\GpsOneDevice\PollInterval -> 100 (default is 1000)
- Drivers\InputBufferSize -> 512 (default is 4096)
- Drivers\OutputBufferSize -> 512 (default is 4096)
- Drivers\SleepOnNoData -> 100 (default is 1000)
- Multiplexer\MaxBufferSize -> 512 (by default not present, you have to create it)
Tests to be done with buffers at 256...seems to be a little better
Tests to be done with other PollInterval value...seems to "drain" battery
With those tweaks pedestrian usage will be much better but not perfect...I explain.
You have to walk for a least 250m in order to have a reposition with mouvement on the map (before that, speed is always 0km/h) and then if you continue to walk there is quite no lag...and the speed reflect reality
...BUT if you stops you have to walk again for a least 250m in order to have a reposition with mouvement on the map and then if you continue to walk there is quite no lag...
Very strange indeed...
I hope this will help people...please test and feedback.
PS : tests were done with
TomTom_Navigator_7.450.9028_R3_VGA_black_edition
GoogleMaps 2.2.0.16 -- http://www.google.be/gmm/GoogleMaps.CAB
GPSTuner 5.4 -- http://www.gpstuner.com/download/GPSTuner_v5.CAB
I noticed GPS problems yesterday with Route66. Havent have time to test GPS lot before, just checked that it can find satellites and really works with Route66.
First while driving, Route66 got fix to satellite pretty quickly, but drop it then after couple seconds. Then couple secods of lag, again found satellites, couple seconds ok, drops again. This keeps going over no matter what, moving or staying stopped.
I then did soft-reset, no help. Then tried Google Maps with GPS, that worked no prob. After using Google Maps I returned to Route66 and strangely satellite fix was ok...
This might be just random satellite fix problem, but strange enough
Taajuus said:
I noticed GPS problems yesterday with Route66. Havent have time to test GPS lot before, just checked that it can find satellites and really works with Route66.
First while driving, Route66 got fix to satellite pretty quickly, but drop it then after couple seconds. Then couple secods of lag, again found satellites, couple seconds ok, drops again. This keeps going over no matter what, moving or staying stopped.
I then did soft-reset, no help. Then tried Google Maps with GPS, that worked no prob. After using Google Maps I returned to Route66 and strangely satellite fix was ok...
This might be just random satellite fix problem, but strange enough
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Many of us have/had that issue so I can confirm you Its a device issue, not a satellite situation. The registry tweaks minimize that problem but I hope HTC solves the problem in his next driver/radio rom/... and the users hasnt to tweak their devices (95% of the users probably will never read this forum and they dont know how to "tweak" their devices
Thanks for sharing. I 'll check it.
Thank you!
I applied all the patches, my TP still doesn't want to find the sattelites...
F.....g hell!!! I tried anything,and morning I've got a fix with 5 satellites in 20secs,so it looks nice(yesterday evening I did the tweaks). But after 4 hours it can see 1-2 satellites,sometimes 3,very rarely 4 under blue sky. So 2 hours of my travelling from city-to-city I didn't get a fix! Co do pici s tym je!!??(sorry for slovak lng,but I cannot speak it english,because so wrong words english language doesn't have). I bought an useless technology and HTC is rolling on the floor laughing,how the customer is stupid. F..k them all with their technologies. Another thing is wifi...no comment is better. I will maybe buy an crazy Eten with Sirf3 and HTC with their stupid Qualcomm can go to hell. For what are all the technologies here,when they are working <20% of time? I am so angry on HTC,so when my kind of device will appear,I will immediately sell the Raph.
Flippy_TK said:
I applied all the patches, my TP still doesn't want to find the sattelites...
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Same here... Don't know what else to do...
I believe I will never be able to use the GPS...
Ain't that a shame
Cheers.
But I don't get it, it used to work the first days...
Flippy_TK said:
I applied all the patches, my TP still doesn't want to find the sattelites...
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i can confirm
Kevlar-Source said:
Same here... Don't know what else to do...
I believe I will never be able to use the GPS...
Ain't that a shame
Cheers.
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for such an expensive device it is...
For those how have still problems
1. Hard reset
2. Applied the tweaks
3. Download last QuickGPS
4. Install TomTom
5. Have a little more patience...
Gook luck.
omega01 said:
For those how have still problems
1. Hard reset
2. Applied the tweaks
3. Download last QuickGPS
4. Install TomTom
5. Have a little more patience...
Gook luck.
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Did all that and the bloody phone is still not getting a fix on satellites...
I am confused in other way...
Why it does lock the satellites in 30seconds and it sees 8 sats.and few hours after it has problem with seeing 3 of them at the same place with same weather conditions? I believe,that tomorrow(when I will not needed to have the fix,anyway I will try it) will fix the satellites ASAP. Do the Raphael have a status-sensor,that knows,if I need it right now or not? That's my opinion,while it doesn't work,when I need it and works when I testing it...
I will s..t on whole GPS technology and I will trust the plain maps as before(unfortunately,that costs me some money/energy that I spend for that).
Totally amazing
This is just amazing. Thank you!
Now I get a fix in 10-15 seconds. Earlier it took several minutes... totally amazing...
omega01 said:
For those how have still problems
1. Hard reset
2. Applied the tweaks
3. Download last QuickGPS
4. Install TomTom
5. Have a little more patience...
Gook luck.
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tried this also and been driving around for almost an hour without results is that enough patience?
hmm, my gps was working normally, applied these patches and nothing changed..still working normally (no lags etc.)
Applied all the patches except one (I kept A-GPS on), and after testing with iGo it's working like a charm. With the latest QuickGPS data downloaded, it can still take - seconds to get a fix, but the positioning is accurate (no more 100-200m lag), the devices sees 4-6 satellites in the Belgian sky, and the navigation is finally usable on the Touch Pro. I'll make regular checks in the coming days and I'll report the results. Thanks for the tweaks!
With A-GPS enabled the GPS works great. I had it in my pocket with GPS tuner running while running in a forrest and he didn't lose my position and no lag. The problem: with A-GPS enabled TT7 loses the fix every second. Like 1 sec there is a fix, next there is not. And it keeps doing that. When I disable A-GPS it takes way longer to get a fix with TT7 but it holds the fix.
Tip: driving around makes it harder for the gps to get a fix.
gps problem
hi, i recently bought htc touch pro & i am facing problem to download gps on my phone could someone help me regarding this matter step by step.
thankx
Hi All,
Like many i've had numerous problems with my GPS. I came from a Tytn II so I know how fast the unit should lock and work. In fact I've done side by side comparisons with my wife's TyTn II and am fairly disappointed thus far.
For the longest time I couldn't even lock in less than 30 mins, after trying several ROMS and radios. I used TomTom, Garmin, and Igo 8 (which I love) and issues all around.
Finally I solved my locking problem by doing the simplest of things, set the baud rate in the settings of the 3rd party GPS apps (Igo in this case) to 4800bps. Now I reliably get a lock within 60-90 seconds. I still however have lag, but at least it's somewhat usable.
Anyways hope this helps others with my issue.
Are you using Quick GPS and updating it's data when it expires, are you getting a lock with a third party app (GPS Test or HTC GPS Tool or others) before running your nav software? In IGO, when changing from 4800 from say have you tried the highest (100k+ whatever not sure of the number) baud are you seeing much of a difference in your position on screen versus your actual position?
Everyone seems to have a different story when you ask them about their experiences with their GPS on their Raphael. >_>
Btw what ROM are you using? Have you tried Sleuths GPS cab? I'm not 100% positive I have the latest cab or I would post it but there are some settings in the registry that you can change that deliver somewhat of a better experience (in my case and many others) as far as position lag is concerned. I also use the highest baud settings as Sleuth recommended.
Many thanks to everyone who is going out of their way to do some working towards a fix for Raphael's flakey GPS.
im using the highest baud on my raphael as mentioned above by X2D. there are tweaks that can be done in the registry or just find a tweak cab that has compiled those tweaks.. remember to update quick gps when it expires.. with quick gps updated i get a fix in about 20-30 seconds.. and this also depends on what radio rom you have.. i have Radio version: 1.08.25.20.. i think it's the lates. well read the radio thread on raphael section and you'll find one suitable for you , i guess i've heard somemany say that some of the older versions works better and so forth.. if you have your phone security / cid unlocked you can try the latest radio rom from blackstone on your raphael which is to be the best so far at this date... well correct me if im wrong though.. well there are another option, hot start on gps but that might consume little more battery and so forth.. read more about it on this forum
This is usual thread all over net..
I have problem, a big one... Every cooked rom I have tried works great but GPS dont work. Fix takes 15 - 20 min quickgps updates normaly but no fix... with original rom and quickgps updated fix is under 30sec but i have problem with touch screen on original ROM. so i have spend 15 days of experimenting, flashing various roms, radios but no luck....
interesting is that when i connect external gps antena with amplifier i get fix around 1 - 2min.... then it works with integrated, but 2 hours later same problem...
Kaiser130 is my device
tried roms: shifu v1 & v2 basic & full, Dutty's WM6.1, REV_ROM_V8, SimpleOsManila, AtheneOS....
also i have tried exporting registry branch from original rom for quickgps and copyed quickgps files over but no luck.
no luck
I have used almost all of these roms and my lock is in 2-3 minutes. 1st, make sure you are using the recommend radio. If you use the wrong Radio, you will never get a lock. Also make sure it is not just your area; if there are only a few sat's then the GPS module in the phone will take for ever for a lock.
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This is usual thread all over net..
I have problem, a big one... Every cooked rom
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C'Mon dude really... 3rd post and you come out dropping bombs like "every" and "it's the usual" and "a problem... a big one"
I have used many different ROMs here too and have not had a single issue with GPS working!
I think "every" and "usual" is disrespectful to the cooks here and that your issue is likely hardware (hence your comment about it working w/ an external ant) or possibly between the screen and the seat
have you tried gpstest to check your com ports and then set it manually?
I also had the same issues
already changed the com port and radio from 1.65.16.25 until 1.70.19.09 (KAISER Radio)
As u see raf1987 has same problem as me, yesterday I have tried original HTC WWE 6.1 rom but with same result.
I dont mean to disrespect cooks, and dont see what is problem with me having 3 posts??
k2rolla503 Yes I have tried gpstest, nonigps plot.... they find satelites but no fix 1 to 4 satelites all time but no fix.. signall strength is normal in all roms (graphicaly to me).
I too have the same problem.
I find the GPS fixes to be very flaky. I've used both the ROMs from Laurentius up through V10 and now using Phoenix II.3.
Laurentius ROMs I found I had much faster lock time if I downloaded the ephimeral file right before I used my GPS. We are talking 24 hours between uses. This could mean the difference between a 2 minute lock and a 20 minute lock. I've never gotten GPSTest to show me anything other than starting...
On Phoenix II.3, the ephimeral file only last for 3 days instead of 7 like Laurentius. Once I saw the fastest lock in my life ever on this ROM, it literally must have locked in 15-30 seconds. I have never seen it do that again. Currently it's taking me a good 10-20 minutes to lock on average. I have to start up my GPS 10 minutes before I go anywhere just to get it warmed up.
I've also tried fiddling with the assisted GPS setting on both ROMs. I found that with Laurentius the fix is slightly faster. On Phoenix I haven't noticed any real difference in getting a fix aGPS vs GPS. Nor do I find it assists in tunnels.
The only thing that really bothers me about aGPS is that I get that dialup connection dialog that says it fails to connect every time I use TomTom. I have to hit dismiss before it appears to start trying to get a fix. I've tried reapplying the connection settings for AT&T, that didn't seem to help much. It is super annoying.
In the end, GPS does work, but like the OP, I found that my fixes were consistently faster on the stock ROM than the cooked ROMs. I too mean no disrespect and I appreciate the hard work that goes in to each and every one of these ROMs even if I don't use them. I too like the OP just want my fix to be as fast as those claimed here and elsewhere. It can be frustrating to hear about these fast lock times and have to suffer with long lock times. It's especially annoying to me because I travel for business a lot and find that I am now nearly half way to my destination before I finally get a lock.
While I may not have many posts, I do follow these forums regularly. I hope that my input will be constructively used to find an answer if there is one to be found.
I have no issue using L26's TF3D V4, Athine OS Jan 22, Mbarvian Solace 1.5 and Josh' Revealed 21500. All has the GPS working fine. I'm not that particular that I measure individual response time.
As long as it locks within 1-2 mins (from nothing), it's ok to me.
hmm.... i think , i found the solution... don't know if it could work for others
now, I use PDA corner from Abusalza... with Radio version 1.70.xx.xx
so, after flashing your new rom... make sure you update the GPS support programs like quick gps , etc
then, execute your GPS program ( I use Garmin for this).. and make sure you are outside of your house, or apartment, or wherever..
the reason why my tytn II could not find satelites is because I did it in my house, did not think that outside my house could work (because my Trinity could detect satelites in my house without any support GPS program like quick gps)
then... your tytn II should detect the satelites and GPS is activated...
NB: sorry for my bad english
k2rolla503 said:
have you tried gpstest to check your com ports and then set it manually?
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I am having the same problem. The original Three (Australian) ROM would get a GPS lock within seconds.Now, I take 20smins to get a lock.
ROM version: AthineOS WWE
ROM date: 1/22/09
Radio Version: 1.65.24.36
Protocol version: 25.94.40.06H
I have just used GPS test and the only thing I changed was the baud from 4800 to 9600. Will try it out later, but hope it works.
http://www.smartphone.net/software_detail.asp?id=3170
PS Most of us know that GPS works only if there is line of sight with the satellites, so yes, I am outside on cloudless days when I try to get locks.
PPS If it dont work, I might go back to official ROM. http://www.htc.com/au/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=13&cat=2&dl_id=342.
flash back to WM6.0, there are no problems with gps. every fix in 30 sec.
Hmm I would like to go back to 6.0 but my provider has only this rom 6.1 for download that has touch screen problem...
Any link to 6.0 WWE would be helpful
Found 6.0 sry.... ill try and post reply
Search the Wiki. There're links to various WWE versions.
Hmm, I wonder then what the difference is between 6.0 and the higher version that causes this inconsistency in locking. This would seem to indicate software issue rather than a hardware issue. I love the newer ROMs but the inconsistency or complete latency in getting a lock can be extremely annoying especially when you need a lock quickly.
jorakae said:
Hmm, I wonder then what the difference is between 6.0 and the higher version that causes this inconsistency in locking. This would seem to indicate software issue rather than a hardware issue. I love the newer ROMs but the inconsistency or complete latency in getting a lock can be extremely annoying especially when you need a lock quickly.
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I changed the baud from 4800 to 9600 and so far, the GPS locks within 30 seconds. I need further testing, but perhaps the default settings of the cooked ROMs is causing this problem?
I have tried and sucesfuly cooked ROM from stock firmware, added some apps, replaced buggy touch.dll so far so good ROM is 6.1 (WWE 3.31.xxx) using radio 1.65.20.15 i think.
Yesterday cloudy weather with rain i got lock within 4min cold start after flash, today morning warm start 2min (still cloudy no rain) and around noon no clouds got lock in 5sec.
Big THANX to SHIFU for help with dll
help with dll?
hi Vratko,
could you provide more info on the dll that u got helped with?? cos as u can see, lots of us are facing the same problems....even i have tried all sorts of ROM's and radios....yet no success in getting a quick lock...any specific settings to be done?? any
Hi,
I have different problem on GPS, I am using Garmin DK Series, dated 01/16/09. The problem is if use GPS for more then 10 min, back of the kaiser started to heatup, if I turn it off, after a while it is fine. Otherwise, it is detecting the GPS faster. I have downloaded QuickGPS & SeaSGEE.
Is anyone having these problem.
Thanks
Vratoko:
5s ????????????????????????? Please do enlighten us.
Newwonder:
Can you please provide SeaSGEE link. What does it do? is it like quick GPS?
Guys, I have a rather stupid question, and feel free to flame my newbness on the question all you want, I'm just trying to find an answer, for like monthes now...
I have NEVER been able to get my GPS to work, not even once.... It's been a problem for so long, that I eventually just told myself, well I guess I have to pay AT&T for that..... but I don't see why that's the case....
I have tried all of the programs, HTCGPSTool, QuickGPS, Google Maps, etc, all with multiple ROMs.... Right now I'm flashing the Official Update to see if I can get it working with that, but I'm truly dumbfounded.... It has never once, ever gotten a lock, or even found satellites.... It's making me want to bring my fuze to warranty center to try and get a new one
Information about my device:
I have installed HardSPL, usually run EnergyROM latest build, with Radio 1.14.25.05
I've had the phone since last Nov so something different has always been running on it, and not ONCE has my GPS worked for me....
Any ideas?
Thanks
Try first turning on ChartCross GPSTEST (in GPS folder on Energy Rom) wait for lock and then turn on your desired GPS program. BTW Google maps only works with aGPS (needs internet). I recommend TomTom (what I use), iGo or Gramin.
jaszek said:
Try first turning on ChartCross GPSTEST (in GPS folder on Energy Rom) wait for lock and then turn on your desired GPS program. BTW Google maps only works with aGPS (needs internet). I recommend TomTom (what I use), iGo or Gramin.
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Thank you so much!, worked perfectly!! I'll check out the TomTom software, Google Maps is super slow, it would just annoy me
Thanks!
GPS
I recently gave up on the hit and miss of Pocket CoPilot v6, and now I just load GPSToday to run in the background to get the sat connection and now PCP works like a champ. FINALLY!
Can't wait for v8 this year!
I would like to confirm that TomTom is infact the bomb, works perfectly
I'm using version 7.915.9196 with USA and Canada Maps V-830.2323 reccomend anyone to check it out
garmin is so much nicer than tomtom. the interface is prettier and easier to use. it does cost alot though. i thought it was worth it.
The Jack of Clubs said:
garmin is so much nicer than tomtom. the interface is prettier and easier to use. it does cost alot though. i thought it was worth it.
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I'll try that one next, and post back the results, thanks for the recommendation
i would recommend u change ur radio to 1.12.25.19 and install http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468249 <-- its a program called fusion GPS that gets a lock upon restarting ur device so u wont have to wait for that long dreadful first time lock. also that Radio is the best GPS radio i have found so far, works even faster with aGPS, i have used that radio and i get like 3-15sec lock outside and 30-80 sec lock inside my house, depending on if am close to a window or not
allthatinny said:
i would recommend u change ur radio to 1.12.25.19 and install http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468249 <-- its a program called fusion GPS that gets a lock upon restarting ur device so u wont have to wait for that long dreadful first time lock. also that Radio is the best GPS radio i have found so far, works even faster with aGPS, i have used that radio and i get like 3-15sec lock outside and 30-80 sec lock inside my house, depending on if am close to a window or not
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it always keeps timing out after the five minute interval.... maybe because my data connection doesn't auto-start on boot.... any way I can make that happen? but even when i do go start it, it still times out... seems ChartCross has been the best for me, and with aGPS, it will get a lock pretty quickly
The Jack of Clubs said:
garmin is so much nicer than tomtom. the interface is prettier and easier to use. it does cost alot though. i thought it was worth it.
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indeed, Garmin is so much nicer, love the little car driving around on the screen, lol, thanks for the reccomendation!
BFieldingSW said:
Guys, I have a rather stupid question, and feel free to flame my newbness on the question all you want, I'm just trying to find an answer, for like monthes now...
I have NEVER been able to get my GPS to work, not even once.... It's been a problem for so long, that I eventually just told myself, well I guess I have to pay AT&T for that..... but I don't see why that's the case....
I have tried all of the programs, HTCGPSTool, QuickGPS, Google Maps, etc, all with multiple ROMs.... Right now I'm flashing the Official Update to see if I can get it working with that, but I'm truly dumbfounded.... It has never once, ever gotten a lock, or even found satellites.... It's making me want to bring my fuze to warranty center to try and get a new one
Information about my device:
I have installed HardSPL, usually run EnergyROM latest build, with Radio 1.14.25.05
I've had the phone since last Nov so something different has always been running on it, and not ONCE has my GPS worked for me....
Any ideas?
Thanks
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I've had this exact same problem when also running latest Energy rom with radio 1.14.25.05, (I also have a lot of problems keeping a constant wifi connection even at full signal but thats another story).
This morning i flashed back to my original stock rom (vodafone uk) and although i had to wait FOUTY FIVE minutes for my first GPS signal i now have no problems with the latest version of TomTom and my uptodate USA & Canada map (i now live in Montreal)
Im going to run the stock rom for a day or two to see how it should run, then switch back to the Energy "Magic" rom as i really like that one out of all the 6.5 Roms.
Very strange.
Still the only way I can get it to work on a cooked ROM, is to use ChartCrossGPSTest.... wait until it says GPS Running, and go launch TomTom, leave ChartCross minimized
Hello all,
I am writing this topic to let you all provide of this super tweak! Here I show you how to get this fix. With this tweak I got a gps fix within 10 seconds(under clear sky), better, more, faster satellite fixes.
First I used this tweak:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427888
(I suggest you to first hard reset, and then apply the tweak. But I guess it will also work right if you don't) Do everything EXACTLY like the tweak says. If you don't do it right. It might fail.
Next tweak.
I found this tweak when I was searching for tweaks for my Samsung Omnia. I found this application. I have tried my gps first before installing this application. It was a weak signal and I could only find like 4 satellites and it took me like 15 minutes to get a fix. But when I applied this application, I got a fix withing 10 seconds!!! And with at least 7 satellites!! Here is the application;
http://www.mediafire.com/?zilthagdhey
Settings:
In settings/system/External GPS, The GPS Program port is COM4, No Hardware port and a Baud rate of 9600. In GPSModSettings(Found in main program folder) I have set; log file, Extended, Smooth to blank marker, Sleep time 1000 GPSModDriver to Comport 1 and enabled.
Then scroll a down a bit for the next settings.
GPSID External GPS to Com Port 4 and enabled.
Congratulations, You have done the tweaks now! I hope it works right for you guys and good luck with navigating!
PS I am using radio: 1.02.25.32.
What application??????????????????
Rhodium500 said:
What application??????????????????
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Sorry, I edited it.
anyone confirmed this???
You could try it yourself. The tweaks are just default. So that would be thrustable.
Is the test really valid ?
Once i have a fix in an any application (no matter how long), if I quit then start another application and use the GPS, i got a fix in 10 seconds. Wait a few hours between your tests
no wayyy to be so.....
guys it is only me who didn t get this,or u still don t get the picture.GPS isn t need a fix.The phone is **** as it comes out the HTC factory.BUT!!!
u need a new radio rom,and no more problem with GPS I personaly use TAE rom and since that moment my GPS problems are past!!!!
So if u have time just create fixes,but .....WHY?? Flash and enjoy!!
helios (who read other posts and learn.No fixes)