ok so i just bought a google ion recently. it still has the tmobile sim in it. i live in canada (vancouver) and i can't seem to get 3g speeds out here on the ion (roaming on rogers network). i was thinking of just selling the ion and picking up a rogers magic instead so that i could get 3g speeds. after my use of the tmobile sim runs out at the end of the month, i was planning on using rogers (or fido) anyway.
now what's the deal here? do you guys think i should get the rogers phone or not?
is the ion rom a lot better than the rogers?
why can't i get 3g on the ion? i thought rogers used 850/1900 and tmobile used 900/1900?
i don't really want to throw in a cooked rom on either one. i used to use a lot of cooked roms on winmo, but i don't really want to get into cooked roms using android. anyway thanx...
no t-mobile uses 1700 in the states.......u are right about rogers' bands...getting the magic will get you the 3G speeds you are looking for.
cant comment on the rom though
thanks for the reply
anyone else know which is better rom?
3G bands in Magic depends on hardware or firmware?
Chipsets MSM7200A & MSM7201A supply all range HSDPA/WCDMA: 850/850/900/1700/1900/2100 MHz
Can i flash Rogers with Ion firmware (or other) and change 3G bands from 850/1900 to 900/2100?
Ion ROM is faster than Rogers Magic ROM but it lacks some of the HTC built-in apps (Exchange, camera/camcorder interface, and etc).
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So it looks like TMO is using 1700/2100 for 3G while AT&T is using 850/1900 MHz. So basically the Dash3G is useless on AT&T for 3G.
Does anyone know if flashing the radio part on the Maple with one that has the correct frequencies will enable 3G on AT&T's network? Or are the radio frequencies a hardware thing? I know the SNAP S522 is the true USA version with the correct bands I just have no way of getting my hands on the radio partition.
I want 3G on my Dash"3G".
Firstly - thanks very much for all the ROM's and your hard work!
I'm a long time browser of these forums, but don't post much. Also a long time user and "flasher"!!! All the way back to the old MPX200 days. Always liked WM Standard, so it's realy good to see all this interest!!!
HTC seems to have been real cagey in their frequency descriptions when it comes to the Dash 3G series of phones. I read somewhere that there are software driven transcievers in some obscure phones out there......and I wonder if HTC actualy did this with their latest and greatest....
Just thinking out loud, per your question. When you look at the spec sheets, they seem to be "non-commital with regards to wcdma specs.
Hmm.
Also, it'd be good to have a set of radio only ROM's, as and when we see T-Mob USA fixes.. there needs to be some improvements made with regards to switching between edge and wcdma - in my opinion. I'm in the DFW area and get dropped calls, the phone drops to edge way too often, especially after a call.
I currently have an HTC Touch Pro that I got when my work used Optus as a provider. Shortly after that, they moved to Telstra, so I've been on the old 3G (non NextG) speeds ever since :-S
A work collogue just gave me an HTC FUZE - which as I understand it is a US AT&T branded version, which supports the 850Mhz UTMS frequency that Telstra requires for their NextG network. (There also seems to be an extra button?) Some threads here seem to indicate it should work at NextG speeds which is encouraging.
Can someone tell mw what the best options are to set this up? I'm hoping it's unlocked, but I saw some unlocking instructions on the Wiki. Am I able to load the stock standard world wide TTC Pro ROM from the HTC Australian site? Or will the different frequency support mess it up?
Should I use the standard AT&T ROM from the HTC US site (I don't really want the AT&T branding, but it seems to have features like slide-to-answer which would be nice).
Or will I have to go down a cooked ROM path? (Stability is the prime importance here). Any suggestions of a good ROM that supports the FUZE?
Thanks!
As long as your network has 850mhz support, it should be fine. The Fuze has the most frequency support of any phone, and definitely supports NextG's HSDPA and HSUPA networks.
As for the ROM, its really a matter of preference, doesn't affect frequency support. Though for better reception and battery life you might want to look into replacing your radio ROM (its in a sticky in the ROM section).
Hi guys, I bought a Sprint Touch Pro 2 that was being used on the CDMA network, but after moving to Ireland, I realized the phone was automatically unlocked hence any sim works on it.
I have used the Rhodium W Hard-SPL in the CDMA section for it, but am left wondering. Does my TP2 still fall under CDMA or is it now under GSM?
Coz i have tried loading some ROMS under the Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development and it failed and returned an ERROR.
So question is, is it still CDMA and can I upgrade to Android ROM?
Thanks.
1) Yes, the default Sprint radio is unlocked for the Euro GSM bands (900/1800 GSM and 2100 WCDMA) by default. No need to pay for a SIM unlock unless you want to swap radios ROMs.
2) NO, you CANNOT use GSM ROMs. The device can only use the custom "CDMA" ROMs. The CDMA TP2 hardware is a hybrid model, whereas the "GSM" versions are GSM only. The ROMs are incompatible.
DO NOT FLASH A GSM ROM TO YOUR SPRINT TP2 FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER.
As far as Android, yes, you can safely load Android via Haret.
Thanks Gamescan for that prompt and to the point reply. Much appreciated.
Just another question if you might know, so which would you say is has better hardware? If the CDMA is Hybrid and the GSM is GSM only, am I to take it that the CDMA is better as it's (for lack of a better word) more advanced, or is the GSM better and why?
Thanks, thinking of trying Android, but, first read alot and see if the advantages outweigh running WM on the TP2.
Same hardware, different radios.
If you're in Europe, it doesn't really matter as every TP2 model supports GSM 900/1800 and WCDMA 2100, which are the Euro GSM and 3G frequencies.
Model choice only matters if you plan on using the phone in the Americas, where the GSM and WCDMA bands differ.
ROM wise it matters because even if you're not using the CDMA radio, the hardware is different and the ROMs are designed to reflect that. For day-to-day use in Ireland though, you'll never know the difference between models.
I really love HD2 . so i decideD to buy it
but i dont know what should i choose..between HD2 INTER vs HD2 T-MOBILE
Because HD2 inter seem more stable than T-mobile ? But T-mobile has 576 RAM + 1GB ROM
Plz help the best choice
THANKS ALOT
MrBeOTP2 said:
I really love HD2 . so i decideD to buy it
but i dont know what should i choose..between HD2 INTER vs HD2 T-MOBILE
Because HD2 inter seem more stable than T-mobile ? But T-mobile has 576 RAM + 1GB ROM
Plz help the best choice
THANKS ALOT
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Hi,
To be honest, it depends on a few things. First of all, the carrier you're on and if you use 3G... I live in Canada and use Rogers, so I had to purchase a Telstra HD2 to get the 850mhz 3G band, as the TMOUS version does not have the proper bands to run 3G on my network. Alot of people go for the T-Mobile if 3G support isn't an issue because of the extra ROM/RAM and because you can find one on ebay or online for 200-300$ US as opposed to other editions like the Telstra which goes for 500 to 800$ US. Otherwise, as far as I know, they're pretty much the same phone!
If you're not sure which 3G bands your carrier uses, just google "3G band (carrier name)"
Good luck with your new purchase!
karendar said:
Hi,
To be honest, it depends on a few things. First of all, the carrier you're on and if you use 3G... I live in Canada and use Rogers, so I had to purchase a Telstra HD2 to get the 850mhz 3G band, as the TMOUS version does not have the proper bands to run 3G on my network. Alot of people go for the T-Mobile if 3G support isn't an issue because of the extra ROM/RAM and because you can find one on ebay or online for 200-300$ US as opposed to other editions like the Telstra which goes for 500 to 800$ US. Otherwise, as far as I know, they're pretty much the same phone!
If you're not sure which 3G bands your carrier uses, just google "3G band (carrier name)"
Good luck with your new purchase!
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The ROM size is a nonissue in my mind (unless you have a metric ****load of apps). The RAM is unlockable on the international version. So, I would get whichever is compatible with your carriers 3g band.
^^~. I think i should choose HD2 inter
are at&t and rogers use same band freq? for 3g and 4g ...lte(this probably not the same)
so...let's say I have a rogers HOX flashed ATT RUU (i know, i have a s-off device)
is it ok to run rogers with att radio, or it's prefer to flash the rogers radio?
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answer please thanks.
Rogers and AT&T use the same 3G (850 and 1900 MHz) and Googling around, they seem to use the same LTE frequency as well (1700 and 2100 MHz). Also seems that the company was a part of (or associated with) AT&T in the past.
Its often said that the two versions are virtually identical. Hard to say what will happen if you flash an AT&T radio. AT&T, Bell, and Rogers at times seem interchangeable.
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Rogers and AT&T use the same 3G (850 and 1900 MHz) and Googling around, they seem to use the same LTE frequency as well (1700 and 2100 MHz). Also seems that the company was a part of (or associated with) AT&T in the past.
Its often said that the two versions are virtually identical. Hard to say what will happen if you flash an AT&T radio. AT&T, Bell, and Rogers at times seem interchangeable.
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thanks man, the 1.82 ruu works perfectly on rogers hox. the radio seems to work for 3g and 4g, not sure or lte since I don't have a lte sim (yet). probably I'm not gonna flash the rogers radio since everything I have it working, When I get my lte sim and data plan arranged with rogers. I will see if the lte is working with att radio if not then i will flash the rogers radio see if it's gonna work.
Any update I will update here.
The question of what radio version is optimal is always a bit of a trial-and-error proposition. A carrier-specific version, in theory, may have some network-specific tweaks. But on the other hand, newer radios can also have some overall improvements.
Add to the fact that (from my completely non-technical standpoint) the Rogers and Canada Bell networks seem to have so much in common with AT&T (possibly due to their past and/or continued association with each other?) its completely possible that there is very little differences in the radios, anyway.
If your reception is good, I'd leave well enough alone.