check this http://www.gsmarena.com/qualcomms_qsd8650a_snapdragon_is_a_13_ghz_monster-news-943.php
there is a 30% speed upgrade for the TG01... not bad!
BUT who needs it
Cheers T3ku
Wow!
That is good to know
Lets hope that HTC uses same processor in their new models!
Thanks for sharing
Sweet. Shrunk it to 45nm which reduced power consumption and allowed a clock speed bump! Nice! Now its a full 6.5x faster than my dying phone!
awesome speed and power!!
hope HTC takes note & get's some big processors in their new models...
Hmmm tasty, haha hope it is implanted into all our HTC smartphones, then whoa! This is a nice break through for mobile phones.
I might have to skip the tp2 then.
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I might have to skip the tp2 then.
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I think your ok to go for a TP2, you got a few days left
Qualcomm QSD8650A chipset is said to become available for sampling before the end of 2009, so the first devices running it should appear somewhere in 2010.
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I suspect this Tosh will go the way of the Imates, rumour, conjecture, prediction, frenzy, "i want! i want! i want!" and then never materialise - at least the good ones didn't. The ones that did were so late, they were crap.
T3ku said:
check this http://www.gsmarena.com/qualcomms_qsd8650a_snapdragon_is_a_13_ghz_monster-news-943.php
there is a 30% speed upgrade for the TG01... not bad!
BUT who needs it
Cheers T3ku
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H.264 decoding & playback, SNES emulation etc.
Monty Burns said:
I suspect this Tosh will go the way of the Imates, rumour, conjecture, prediction, frenzy, "i want! i want! i want!" and then never materialise - at least the good ones didn't. The ones that did were so late, they were crap.
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It's better not to compare the two companies - Tosh has always been an innovator (unlike HTC, HP and a lot of other manufacturers). Remember the e800? It was released a year before the other manfacturers' VGA devices.
iMate is exactly the opposite...
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Wow!
That is good to know
Lets hope that HTC uses same processor in their new models!
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I bet they won't be using it for at least another half a year. HTC and innovation and cutting-edge technology... bah...
Menneisyys said:
I bet they won't be using it for at least another half a year. HTC and innovation and cutting-edge technology... bah...
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Yeah, you are right...
Perhps is time to look to Tosh new models and keep my Uni
Cheers,
So to be absloutely clear. There wil no longer be a TG01 at running at 1Ghz appearing in the next month or 2 ?
Thanks,
Zuber
No, the TG01 will still be using a 1Ghz processor, the thread title is misleading, basically a device running the new chip will be 30% faster than the TG01 and use 30% less power.
Thanks,
Just made my day...
Zuber
more snapdragon ppc's announced for this Summer...htc is being left in the dust!
LG Monaco http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1925&c=lg_monaco_lg_pico
NTT DoCoMo http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1924&c=ntt_docomo_pro_series_t-01a
Maybe, just maybe... on the June 24th HTC event in UK they can present something with snaprdragon
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No, the TG01 will still be using a 1Ghz processor, the thread title is misleading, basically a device running the new chip will be 30% faster than the TG01 and use 30% less power.
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indeed, having reread it I got it wrong. They mention the TG01 but not in the same breath. Sorry for being misleading.
Why announce an upgraded chipset a few weeks before the phone is released? At least, here in the UK. I dunno when it's getting a release elsewhere, but Orange are looking at a late June/early July release. Though I'm still staggered they chose to go with WM 6.1 instead of 6.5...
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Your wait just got longer. Its been delayed to Feb 2009.
that phone was ugly anyways, i think i'll stick with my kaiser
I think that the drivers are not available yet LOLOL
Still on track!
Not delayed
http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/03/sony-ericsson-says-xperia-x1-is-still-on-track-for-this-year/
31th of December will still be in 2nd half of 2008 but will most certainly be a long wait...
But then again maybe the X1 will be the first flagship from Sony Ericsson that will not be delayed - you never know... I wouldn't bet my money on it
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that phone was ugly anyways, i think i'll stick with my kaiser
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heh, i think that kaiser looks just like a brick in compare to xperia. se is beautifull and i swap to it only if it will be possible
Whatever...you can always wait for tech to get better. That's a long wait, so it's not even worth mentioning really.
I want it, but I want to keep my kaiser too . . What to do what to do. . .
I really cannot see any reason what so ever for changing the Kaiser with the X1. I think the screen and the camera on the Kaiser is very nice and basically isn't that the only differences on the two models apart from the design?
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I really cannot see any reason what so ever for changing the Kaiser with the X1. I think the screen and the camera on the Kaiser is very nice and basically isn't that the only differences on the two models apart from the design?
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design....the design man
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design....the design man
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Hmm would still stick with the Kaiser...
Another good reason to "trade up" is...
For us in the US, and on T-Mobile, we will not be able to utilize 3G when it is completely rolled out, right? I heard that T was rolling it out in the 1700 MHz band. If that is the case, then no 3G for TyTN users.
well i'm for the looks for the xperia...altho it doesnt tilt as much as the TytnII i'd still want it...the silver...mmm...reminds me of my old p1i...and the optical navigation pad...however taht works...should be awesome too...i hope
If quake doesn't run on it then I don't see why I would trade.
pew pew
2009 release was a mistake it will be second half of this year
I am extreamly tempted by it, largly due to the sony camera, and if the build quailty is like that of my old w800i and w850i then its a huge bonus.
I've been holding off on the Tilt to see how this is going to pan out. But what I've seen of the Experia X1, I'll be heading down that road....
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design....the design man
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And the drivers, the size, the weight, the WVGA, and everything else...
ChumleyEX said:
If quake doesn't run on it then I don't see why I would trade.
pew pew
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If you want to play Quake (and other 3D accelerated (!) games), get a second-hand Dell Axim x51v. 10000 times better than the Tilt.
lol if I get anything just to play games on then I will get a psp.
Wow, I am blown away by some of the comments here. The screen resolution of the X1 is enough. 800x480 is even better than Diamond, and the 3" screen is sweet. Enough to make me drool. And at 140g it's 25% lighter than the Kaiser. Now port the Manila interface from Diamond to it, and we are in business
Hi, I have a quick question to ask. I bought my touch pro (1) last year and I was looking at all the nice new phones HTC is coming out with. I was honestly thinking about getting the HTC Diamond 2 or the HTC Hero, but looking through the specs, I see that they all have 528 MHZ processors. That is literally no improvement over my touch pro, which also has a 528 mhz, and chances are, there wont be much of an improvement over what I have.
I think I am going to wait it out until an HTC phone comes out that is 600 mhz or more.
I know of the HTC Leo (Firestone), which is a concept phone and I don't even know if this phone will ever move into production. Does anyone know of any other HTC phones that are bound to come up that have at least 600 mhz of processor? Also, maybe even a quality camera that is at least 5 mp will be nice too.
Yeah, wait till the end of the year great 600+mhz devices will be anounced!
I´m tented to do the same!
I have alreadymy 700Euro saved to buy my new device, initially I was going for touch pro 2 but decided to wait till december to make the right choice.
I was looking at the touch pro 2 but one thing I didn't like about it was its bulkiness. It seems pretty thick in the pictures, thats why I was looking at TD 2. But as soon as I see something that is 600 mhz, I'm gonna look into buying it. the SnapDragon processors for smartphones must be really expensive when they come out. Perhaps in the $1000s for an unlocked :-\.
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the SnapDragon processors for smartphones must be really expensive when they come out. Perhaps in the $1000s for an unlocked :-\.
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Doubtful.
All new smartphones seem to cost $700-$800 unlocked regardless of specs. As of right now, you can preorder the Toshiba TG01 (which has a Snapdragon) for $800.
By the time it actually arrives, my guess is that it would be in the $700 range. If you want to get it now, though, you'll have to import it.
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I was looking at the touch pro 2 but one thing I didn't like about it was its bulkiness. It seems pretty thick in the pictures, thats why I was looking at TD 2. But as soon as I see something that is 600 mhz, I'm gonna look into buying it. the SnapDragon processors for smartphones must be really expensive when they come out. Perhaps in the $1000s for an unlocked :-\.
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I am not concerned about tp2 bulkyness as I´m comming from Universal, so anything will be less bulky
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Doubtful.
All new smartphones seem to cost $700-$800 unlocked regardless of specs. As of right now, you can preorder the Toshiba TG01 (which has a Snapdragon) for $800.
By the time it actually arrives, my guess is that it would be in the $700 range. If you want to get it now, though, you'll have to import it.
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Actually Toshiba is already available in Europe, and importing will depend on where are you located
I really like HTC phones. I really hope they release a nice snapdragon that is in my price range by march of next year :-\
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Actually Toshiba is already available in Europe, and importing will depend on where are you located
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That's what I said; it is available now and if you want it, you'll have to import it. Those preorder availability (and pricing) I mentioned is presumably for an NA release.
Guyz if you want faster phone... then the year is 2010... AMD and Samsung also announced another chip which can clock up to 1000mhz (Hummingbird) like snapdragon on Toshiba G1. and windows mobile 7 is on the corner ... and my HTC Universal also has 528mhz processor which was released in 2005 ... so i think waiting until 2010 is best choice.....
Completly agree.
But wm7 is not around the corner, I donñt think we see it before september 2010
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Guyz if you want faster phone... then the year is 2010... AMD and Samsung also announced another chip which can clock up to 1000mhz (Hummingbird) like snapdragon on Toshiba G1. and windows mobile 7 is on the corner ... and my HTC Universal also has 528mhz processor which was released in 2005 ... so i think waiting until 2010 is best choice.....
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WinMo 7 sounds great and, hopefully, HTC will also finally update their specs in 2010 (but if not, I suppose Samsung will continue to have the best specs).
Nonetheless, while the Hummingbird sounds great, it's supposedly just an overclocked Cortex A8 with a modified architecture. Isn't the much better Nvidia Tegra also supposed to be release in 2010? It would probably pay off to wait for that instead.
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lol.
So many 1ghz phones in such a small window.
I really hope HTC pulls through and actually makes something decent.
This is what I"m hoping to find:
1-smoother processor
2-ease of use (typing, web surfing, etc.)
3-long battery life
4-nice productivity features
5-improved TF3D that has been revamped to be more "scheduling" friendly
The following two have the lowest priority, however, I wouldn't mind if these features were included
6-A nice camera with good picture quality (5mp, hopefully)
7-a good 3D accelerator that will allow for nice graphic games as well as HD movies
Hopefully all this on a 3.2-4" screen., although I don't know how huge a 4" screen will be
Does anyone have any info on the HTC Firestone?
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lol.Hopefully all this on a 3.2-4" screen., although I don't know how huge a 4" screen will be
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My friend, I reiterate, check out Toshiba TG01. Coincidentally, that phone also has a 4.1in screen. Link: http://www.gsmarena.com/toshiba_tg01-2662.php
On the other hand, I don't think a phone screen needs to be that large to improve readability. I think a 3.5-3.7in screen would do fine.
Does anyone have any info on the HTC Firestone?
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1) http://gizmodo.com/5320175/htc-firestone-has-snapdragon-and-a-capacitive-screen-prefers-to-go-by-leo
2) http://www.slashgear.com/htc-leo-specs-leak-4-3-inch-capacitive-wm6-5-snapdragon-smartphone-2149867/
P.S. As you may have noticed, it is now called the HTC Leo.
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Does anyone have any info on the HTC Firestone?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530586
looks like there's an explosion of 1GHz processor powered phones this year, and they are getting 1.3GHz..
what will happen next year? Should I concern whether Nexus one/ desire can survive any further?
My personal opinion: 1Ghz is sufficient for the next 2 years. Pointless getting 1.5 Ghz dual-core until they get battery-technology moving along. If a phone can't even last a day, what is it good for?
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My personal opinion: 1Ghz is sufficient for the next 2 years.
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My bank account sure hopes so! lol
I think both Android and certainly WM still have plenty of headroom left to operate with the current 1Ghz procs. Going from 1 to 1.3Ghz really isn't worth the investment right now and won't be for a while yet...you would get more benefit out of something like a dedicated video chip or better battery technology (as poisonwolf mentioned)
PoisonWolf said:
My personal opinion: 1Ghz is sufficient for the next 2 years. Pointless getting 1.5 Ghz dual-core until they get battery-technology moving along. If a phone can't even last a day, what is it good for?
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Oh. a good point here! never thought about the battery...
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My bank account sure hopes so! lol
I think both Android and certainly WM still have plenty of headroom left to operate with the current 1Ghz procs. Going from 1 to 1.3Ghz really isn't worth the investment right now and won't be for a while yet...you would get more benefit out of something like a dedicated video chip or better battery technology (as poisonwolf mentioned)
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I saw it on pdadb that the hTC Mondrian will have a 1.3 GHz and its a WP7.
aqw955 said:
I saw it on pdadb that the hTC Mondrian will have a 1.3 GHz and its a WP7.
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Correct on both counts. It's just that neither are a compelling reason to spend money on upgrading to.
A better video chip is much more important, also memory is a crucial point in getting a device to run fluently.
Hey guys,we've all been hearing and seeing things about the upcoming HTC Ace(along with Schubert with Windows Phone 7),right?Well,we know that it will be similar to the Evo/Leo,will also be known as Desire HD,and will look stunningly cool.However,I am lacking the knowledge of any details.
I heard somewhere that it will be sporting a more powerful GPU that the current Snapdragon devices.Is this confirmed?Also,will its CPU be anyhow better than the current Snapdragons?Because I am between this and the Galaxy S.But I love HTC's phones,interface etc and would be ok if it was just a little more powerful than my Desire.If it's just the bigger screen(which will most probably not be AMOLED) and better camera(I think it will have 8MPx like the Evo[?]) it's not worth it.
So what do you guys think?
They are holding a press event on 15th Sept. So hopefully it will be announced then.
My guess is it will be exactly the same as the Evo except the radio.
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They are holding a press event on 15th Sept. So hopefully it will be announced then.
My guess is it will be exactly the same as the Evo except the radio.
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Well,if that's the case it's a pity that such a nice device will be gone to waste...I mean,by September/October the new Snapdragons with dual-core processors will be just out of the corner!Why make a phone that can't have the latest and greatest?
I hope the Ace will be available in the US.
I like some of the high-end Android phones but I am on a GSM carrier, so that leaves me with the lackluster options of the Samsung Galaxy S (which I don't really like at the moment) and the Nexus One.
There are 4 amazing Droid phones that I would love to get my hands on, but they are all on Verizon. What is up with that?
At least you are in the US pal!If you change carriers you can get all awesome phones available!But I live in Europe,and more specifically in Greece!What about us here dude?We too are stuck with either Galaxy S and Desire.
*** gloat post ***
I live in the UK and we get pretty much everything all the time. Only thing we lack behind is 4g but I know O2 are testing this in Slough at the moment and reporting speeds of 150meg if rumours are to be believed.
I've even heard in another thread that we will be getting WinPhone 7 before the US should you decide to jump to it....
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Well,if that's the case it's a pity that such a nice device will be gone to waste...I mean,by September/October the new Snapdragons with dual-core processors will be just out of the corner!Why make a phone that can't have the latest and greatest?
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I know what you mean, but I highly doubt they can produce the new dual-core or the 1.5GHz ones en masse by Xmas...
And a Snapdragon is still an extremely nice upgrade for those of us still on a 576MHz device
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I know what you mean, but I highly doubt they can produce the new dual-core or the 1.5GHz ones en masse by Xmas...
And a Snapdragon is still an extremely nice upgrade for those of us still on a 576MHz device
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Ah,I know what you mean pal!I owned a Diamond and a Hero before my Desire and the gain in performance is just...WOW!But why not even more?
I got my hands on a MyTouch 4G today and quickly installed Quadrant to see what kind of score it would produce.
I got screen shots but don't have permission to post pics or links...
put it up on your facebook? or flicka?
I just want to know for sure if it's dual core or not. Nobody seems to know.
well, I have a screen shot of the CPU info too
try this
hxxp://tinypic.com/r/2wc34sy/7
hxxp://tinypic.com/r/15wce9k/7
same CPU as the G2, just clocked higher
Quadrant score of 1908
CPU: ARMv7 rev1 (v7l) @ 1024 MHz
Cores: 1
and by the way, I took these screen shots after installing Shoot Me, and using VISIONary to temp root the phone. VISIONary is amazing! it gave me temporary root in seconds.
what were your general impressions of the phone? Does it appear to have a super-lcd screen?
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/10/22/mytouch-4g-benchmark/
the phone was quick and responsive. not sure about the screen, but it looked very similar to the G2 screen in my opinion, if that helps. the video calling with Qik worked better on WiFi than on 3G or HSPA (which would be expected), but I wouldn't say it was crystal clear. Overall it was nice and solid, and not as "plastic" feeling as previous MyTouch's
t-mobile employees got their hands on them last week when they did sort of a essay entry thing on why they should get the device, the winners were awarded with the device... It should be released for pre order within the next 2 weeks or so...
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We already know from tmobile it is not the same processor, You must not be very smart because the G2 has a qualcomm MSM7230 and the mytouch has a MSM8255
Oh and no need to lie to look cool, you never got your hands on one!!!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8698703&postcount=19
Leaked ROM above from the myTouch4G says otherwise. Absolutely no need to be condescending, and screenies look legit. Perhaps you're not very smart, acting like a jerk based on rumors and no facts?
These quadrant scores prove that it is shipping with 2.2
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8698703&postcount=19
Leaked ROM above from the myTouch4G says otherwise. Absolutely no need to be condescending, and screenies look legit. Perhaps you're not very smart, acting like a jerk based on rumors and no facts?
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But what about the official statement from TMO?
"Designed by HTC exclusively for T-Mobile, the new myTouch features a brilliant 3.8-inch WVGA touch-screen display with virtual keyboard and Swype® for easy text input. The thin and sleek device also comes with a blazing fast second-generation Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 1GHz MSM8255 processor optimized for speed and graphic performance, a 5-megapixel camera, a preinstalled 8 GB microSD memory card, and an integrated media player that brings together favorite music, video and internet radio under one set of controls."
Link: http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/myTouch-HSPA/Announcing-the-new-T-Mobile-myTouch/td-p/493446
Tmo could post it wrong though.
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These quadrant scores prove that it is shipping with 2.2
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It did ship with 2.2 and tethering which the G2 lacked. This phone rocks. I've been using it as my dd for a week now and I have to admit that I'm very satisfied.
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It did ship with 2.2 and tethering which the G2 lacked. This phone rocks. I've been using it as my dd for a week now and I have to admit that I'm very satisfied.
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Another reason why I became mod of this device
This phone flies!!
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Oh... this is kililng me! Someone (either T-mobile or devs) need to step up and say "Ok, we admit it, we made a mistake. This phone has MSM XXXX processor!
With that said...
I am pretty much set on this device (in black!) but I'm waiting to play with it in the store and getting rock-solid info on specs and ease of real root. I hate to say it but I am also considering HD2 with Android due to it's 4.3" screen and T-mobile not getting a real 4.3" screen Android phone until next year. Decisions, decisions...
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Oh... this is kililng me! Someone (either T-mobile or devs) need to step up and say "Ok, we admit it, we made a mistake. This phone has MSM XXXX processor!
With that said...
I am pretty much set on this device (in black!) but I'm waiting to play with it in the store and getting rock-solid info on specs and ease of real root. I hate to say it but I am also considering HD2 with Android due to it's 4.3" screen and T-mobile not getting a real 4.3" screen Android phone until next year. Decisions, decisions...
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Well does it matter? And which one is everyone hoping for. the 8XXX or the 7XXX? If they are both GHZ, does it matter?
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Well does it matter? And which one is everyone hoping for. the 8XXX or the 7XXX? If they are both GHZ, does it matter?
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As far as Ghz go... Snapdragon is 1Ghz proc and G2 runs circles around it with 800Mhz. So yes, it does matter which generation proc we get.
Then again, it's all about how phone feels in real life, that's the main reason I want to wait. I went to the store to check out HD2 when it was released. Oh boy was it a beast on paper. Oh boy what a dissapointment in real life.
Still, can't wait for MT4G
Snapdragon is 8XXX right?
They are all snapdragons, just different generation/architectures of the cpu and different configurations of cpu/gpu. I'm not really good with all that naming/code bs but from what I know, newer Snapdragons (the ones in G2 and MT4G) are way faster then older ones (N1, Evo, Incredible, etc) at the same clock speed. Think Intel Celeron and Pentium4 difference. But it's not all about speed neither. There's more to it, just check out the link.
http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html
But, after seeing wirefly's video of MT4G, I don't even care anymore. Comes next week, I'll be picking mine up. In black.