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check this http://www.gsmarena.com/qualcomms_qsd8650a_snapdragon_is_a_13_ghz_monster-news-943.php
there is a 30% speed upgrade for the TG01... not bad!
BUT who needs it
Cheers T3ku
Wow!
That is good to know
Lets hope that HTC uses same processor in their new models!
Thanks for sharing
Sweet. Shrunk it to 45nm which reduced power consumption and allowed a clock speed bump! Nice! Now its a full 6.5x faster than my dying phone!
awesome speed and power!!
hope HTC takes note & get's some big processors in their new models...
Hmmm tasty, haha hope it is implanted into all our HTC smartphones, then whoa! This is a nice break through for mobile phones.
I might have to skip the tp2 then.
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I might have to skip the tp2 then.
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I think your ok to go for a TP2, you got a few days left
Qualcomm QSD8650A chipset is said to become available for sampling before the end of 2009, so the first devices running it should appear somewhere in 2010.
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I suspect this Tosh will go the way of the Imates, rumour, conjecture, prediction, frenzy, "i want! i want! i want!" and then never materialise - at least the good ones didn't. The ones that did were so late, they were crap.
T3ku said:
check this http://www.gsmarena.com/qualcomms_qsd8650a_snapdragon_is_a_13_ghz_monster-news-943.php
there is a 30% speed upgrade for the TG01... not bad!
BUT who needs it
Cheers T3ku
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H.264 decoding & playback, SNES emulation etc.
Monty Burns said:
I suspect this Tosh will go the way of the Imates, rumour, conjecture, prediction, frenzy, "i want! i want! i want!" and then never materialise - at least the good ones didn't. The ones that did were so late, they were crap.
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It's better not to compare the two companies - Tosh has always been an innovator (unlike HTC, HP and a lot of other manufacturers). Remember the e800? It was released a year before the other manfacturers' VGA devices.
iMate is exactly the opposite...
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Wow!
That is good to know
Lets hope that HTC uses same processor in their new models!
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I bet they won't be using it for at least another half a year. HTC and innovation and cutting-edge technology... bah...
Menneisyys said:
I bet they won't be using it for at least another half a year. HTC and innovation and cutting-edge technology... bah...
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Yeah, you are right...
Perhps is time to look to Tosh new models and keep my Uni
Cheers,
So to be absloutely clear. There wil no longer be a TG01 at running at 1Ghz appearing in the next month or 2 ?
Thanks,
Zuber
No, the TG01 will still be using a 1Ghz processor, the thread title is misleading, basically a device running the new chip will be 30% faster than the TG01 and use 30% less power.
Thanks,
Just made my day...
Zuber
more snapdragon ppc's announced for this Summer...htc is being left in the dust!
LG Monaco http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1925&c=lg_monaco_lg_pico
NTT DoCoMo http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1924&c=ntt_docomo_pro_series_t-01a
Maybe, just maybe... on the June 24th HTC event in UK they can present something with snaprdragon
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No, the TG01 will still be using a 1Ghz processor, the thread title is misleading, basically a device running the new chip will be 30% faster than the TG01 and use 30% less power.
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indeed, having reread it I got it wrong. They mention the TG01 but not in the same breath. Sorry for being misleading.
Why announce an upgraded chipset a few weeks before the phone is released? At least, here in the UK. I dunno when it's getting a release elsewhere, but Orange are looking at a late June/early July release. Though I'm still staggered they chose to go with WM 6.1 instead of 6.5...
Hi, I have a quick question to ask. I bought my touch pro (1) last year and I was looking at all the nice new phones HTC is coming out with. I was honestly thinking about getting the HTC Diamond 2 or the HTC Hero, but looking through the specs, I see that they all have 528 MHZ processors. That is literally no improvement over my touch pro, which also has a 528 mhz, and chances are, there wont be much of an improvement over what I have.
I think I am going to wait it out until an HTC phone comes out that is 600 mhz or more.
I know of the HTC Leo (Firestone), which is a concept phone and I don't even know if this phone will ever move into production. Does anyone know of any other HTC phones that are bound to come up that have at least 600 mhz of processor? Also, maybe even a quality camera that is at least 5 mp will be nice too.
Yeah, wait till the end of the year great 600+mhz devices will be anounced!
I´m tented to do the same!
I have alreadymy 700Euro saved to buy my new device, initially I was going for touch pro 2 but decided to wait till december to make the right choice.
I was looking at the touch pro 2 but one thing I didn't like about it was its bulkiness. It seems pretty thick in the pictures, thats why I was looking at TD 2. But as soon as I see something that is 600 mhz, I'm gonna look into buying it. the SnapDragon processors for smartphones must be really expensive when they come out. Perhaps in the $1000s for an unlocked :-\.
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the SnapDragon processors for smartphones must be really expensive when they come out. Perhaps in the $1000s for an unlocked :-\.
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Doubtful.
All new smartphones seem to cost $700-$800 unlocked regardless of specs. As of right now, you can preorder the Toshiba TG01 (which has a Snapdragon) for $800.
By the time it actually arrives, my guess is that it would be in the $700 range. If you want to get it now, though, you'll have to import it.
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I was looking at the touch pro 2 but one thing I didn't like about it was its bulkiness. It seems pretty thick in the pictures, thats why I was looking at TD 2. But as soon as I see something that is 600 mhz, I'm gonna look into buying it. the SnapDragon processors for smartphones must be really expensive when they come out. Perhaps in the $1000s for an unlocked :-\.
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I am not concerned about tp2 bulkyness as I´m comming from Universal, so anything will be less bulky
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Doubtful.
All new smartphones seem to cost $700-$800 unlocked regardless of specs. As of right now, you can preorder the Toshiba TG01 (which has a Snapdragon) for $800.
By the time it actually arrives, my guess is that it would be in the $700 range. If you want to get it now, though, you'll have to import it.
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Actually Toshiba is already available in Europe, and importing will depend on where are you located
I really like HTC phones. I really hope they release a nice snapdragon that is in my price range by march of next year :-\
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Actually Toshiba is already available in Europe, and importing will depend on where are you located
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That's what I said; it is available now and if you want it, you'll have to import it. Those preorder availability (and pricing) I mentioned is presumably for an NA release.
Guyz if you want faster phone... then the year is 2010... AMD and Samsung also announced another chip which can clock up to 1000mhz (Hummingbird) like snapdragon on Toshiba G1. and windows mobile 7 is on the corner ... and my HTC Universal also has 528mhz processor which was released in 2005 ... so i think waiting until 2010 is best choice.....
Completly agree.
But wm7 is not around the corner, I donñt think we see it before september 2010
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Guyz if you want faster phone... then the year is 2010... AMD and Samsung also announced another chip which can clock up to 1000mhz (Hummingbird) like snapdragon on Toshiba G1. and windows mobile 7 is on the corner ... and my HTC Universal also has 528mhz processor which was released in 2005 ... so i think waiting until 2010 is best choice.....
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WinMo 7 sounds great and, hopefully, HTC will also finally update their specs in 2010 (but if not, I suppose Samsung will continue to have the best specs).
Nonetheless, while the Hummingbird sounds great, it's supposedly just an overclocked Cortex A8 with a modified architecture. Isn't the much better Nvidia Tegra also supposed to be release in 2010? It would probably pay off to wait for that instead.
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lol.
So many 1ghz phones in such a small window.
I really hope HTC pulls through and actually makes something decent.
This is what I"m hoping to find:
1-smoother processor
2-ease of use (typing, web surfing, etc.)
3-long battery life
4-nice productivity features
5-improved TF3D that has been revamped to be more "scheduling" friendly
The following two have the lowest priority, however, I wouldn't mind if these features were included
6-A nice camera with good picture quality (5mp, hopefully)
7-a good 3D accelerator that will allow for nice graphic games as well as HD movies
Hopefully all this on a 3.2-4" screen., although I don't know how huge a 4" screen will be
Does anyone have any info on the HTC Firestone?
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lol.Hopefully all this on a 3.2-4" screen., although I don't know how huge a 4" screen will be
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My friend, I reiterate, check out Toshiba TG01. Coincidentally, that phone also has a 4.1in screen. Link: http://www.gsmarena.com/toshiba_tg01-2662.php
On the other hand, I don't think a phone screen needs to be that large to improve readability. I think a 3.5-3.7in screen would do fine.
Does anyone have any info on the HTC Firestone?
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1) http://gizmodo.com/5320175/htc-firestone-has-snapdragon-and-a-capacitive-screen-prefers-to-go-by-leo
2) http://www.slashgear.com/htc-leo-specs-leak-4-3-inch-capacitive-wm6-5-snapdragon-smartphone-2149867/
P.S. As you may have noticed, it is now called the HTC Leo.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530586
I got my hands on a MyTouch 4G today and quickly installed Quadrant to see what kind of score it would produce.
I got screen shots but don't have permission to post pics or links...
put it up on your facebook? or flicka?
I just want to know for sure if it's dual core or not. Nobody seems to know.
well, I have a screen shot of the CPU info too
try this
hxxp://tinypic.com/r/2wc34sy/7
hxxp://tinypic.com/r/15wce9k/7
same CPU as the G2, just clocked higher
Quadrant score of 1908
CPU: ARMv7 rev1 (v7l) @ 1024 MHz
Cores: 1
and by the way, I took these screen shots after installing Shoot Me, and using VISIONary to temp root the phone. VISIONary is amazing! it gave me temporary root in seconds.
what were your general impressions of the phone? Does it appear to have a super-lcd screen?
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/10/22/mytouch-4g-benchmark/
the phone was quick and responsive. not sure about the screen, but it looked very similar to the G2 screen in my opinion, if that helps. the video calling with Qik worked better on WiFi than on 3G or HSPA (which would be expected), but I wouldn't say it was crystal clear. Overall it was nice and solid, and not as "plastic" feeling as previous MyTouch's
t-mobile employees got their hands on them last week when they did sort of a essay entry thing on why they should get the device, the winners were awarded with the device... It should be released for pre order within the next 2 weeks or so...
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We already know from tmobile it is not the same processor, You must not be very smart because the G2 has a qualcomm MSM7230 and the mytouch has a MSM8255
Oh and no need to lie to look cool, you never got your hands on one!!!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8698703&postcount=19
Leaked ROM above from the myTouch4G says otherwise. Absolutely no need to be condescending, and screenies look legit. Perhaps you're not very smart, acting like a jerk based on rumors and no facts?
These quadrant scores prove that it is shipping with 2.2
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8698703&postcount=19
Leaked ROM above from the myTouch4G says otherwise. Absolutely no need to be condescending, and screenies look legit. Perhaps you're not very smart, acting like a jerk based on rumors and no facts?
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But what about the official statement from TMO?
"Designed by HTC exclusively for T-Mobile, the new myTouch features a brilliant 3.8-inch WVGA touch-screen display with virtual keyboard and Swype® for easy text input. The thin and sleek device also comes with a blazing fast second-generation Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 1GHz MSM8255 processor optimized for speed and graphic performance, a 5-megapixel camera, a preinstalled 8 GB microSD memory card, and an integrated media player that brings together favorite music, video and internet radio under one set of controls."
Link: http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/myTouch-HSPA/Announcing-the-new-T-Mobile-myTouch/td-p/493446
Tmo could post it wrong though.
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These quadrant scores prove that it is shipping with 2.2
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It did ship with 2.2 and tethering which the G2 lacked. This phone rocks. I've been using it as my dd for a week now and I have to admit that I'm very satisfied.
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It did ship with 2.2 and tethering which the G2 lacked. This phone rocks. I've been using it as my dd for a week now and I have to admit that I'm very satisfied.
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Another reason why I became mod of this device
This phone flies!!
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Oh... this is kililng me! Someone (either T-mobile or devs) need to step up and say "Ok, we admit it, we made a mistake. This phone has MSM XXXX processor!
With that said...
I am pretty much set on this device (in black!) but I'm waiting to play with it in the store and getting rock-solid info on specs and ease of real root. I hate to say it but I am also considering HD2 with Android due to it's 4.3" screen and T-mobile not getting a real 4.3" screen Android phone until next year. Decisions, decisions...
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Oh... this is kililng me! Someone (either T-mobile or devs) need to step up and say "Ok, we admit it, we made a mistake. This phone has MSM XXXX processor!
With that said...
I am pretty much set on this device (in black!) but I'm waiting to play with it in the store and getting rock-solid info on specs and ease of real root. I hate to say it but I am also considering HD2 with Android due to it's 4.3" screen and T-mobile not getting a real 4.3" screen Android phone until next year. Decisions, decisions...
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Well does it matter? And which one is everyone hoping for. the 8XXX or the 7XXX? If they are both GHZ, does it matter?
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Well does it matter? And which one is everyone hoping for. the 8XXX or the 7XXX? If they are both GHZ, does it matter?
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As far as Ghz go... Snapdragon is 1Ghz proc and G2 runs circles around it with 800Mhz. So yes, it does matter which generation proc we get.
Then again, it's all about how phone feels in real life, that's the main reason I want to wait. I went to the store to check out HD2 when it was released. Oh boy was it a beast on paper. Oh boy what a dissapointment in real life.
Still, can't wait for MT4G
Snapdragon is 8XXX right?
They are all snapdragons, just different generation/architectures of the cpu and different configurations of cpu/gpu. I'm not really good with all that naming/code bs but from what I know, newer Snapdragons (the ones in G2 and MT4G) are way faster then older ones (N1, Evo, Incredible, etc) at the same clock speed. Think Intel Celeron and Pentium4 difference. But it's not all about speed neither. There's more to it, just check out the link.
http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html
But, after seeing wirefly's video of MT4G, I don't even care anymore. Comes next week, I'll be picking mine up. In black.
man o man we havent even received the first dual core phone and it was just announced today that the have quad core chips for phones now each running at 2.5ghz. so basically the bionic is old hardware now...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/qualcomm-unveils-next-gen-snapdragon-family-including-quad-core/
The quadrant score for the Thunderbolt hit 1950 , how fast do you have to be. Although the duals will have better battery life , and a higher price tag.
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I will jump on the dual-core bandwagon next year when my 1 year Thunderbolt contract is up. For now, the TB will be fast enough for me.
Besides, Android 2.3 is not optimized for dual-core so you will be waiting until the minor 2.4 upgrade to see any dual-core optimizations.
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I will jump on the dual-core bandwagon next year when my 1 year Thunderbolt contract is up. For now, the TB will be fast enough for me.
Besides, Android 2.3 is not optimized for dual-core so you will be waiting until the minor 2.4 upgrade to see any dual-core optimizations.
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On the nose right there!
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On the nose right there!
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I am still debating on the TBolt at this point. I am really struggling with the idea of the larger screen.
eriscat said:
I am still debating on the TBolt at this point. I am really struggling with the idea of the larger screen.
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See and that's what I want, my Omnia currently has a horrible 240x400 3.2" screen and I want something bigger.
Android users have become power-hungry - dual-core processors no longer cut it. If you're among that crowd, this next rumor should give you a twitch of excitement - an HTC One XXL with two extra cores than the XL, better graphics and more RAM.
A couple of leaked screenshots show some of the specs of this purported beast - a 4.7" 720p screen, 8MP main and 1.8MP secondary cameras and a codename, "Closurexxl".
The chipset specs of the One XXL are more interesting though - a quad-core processor (reportedly a Snapdragon S4 with Krait cores), 2GB of RAM and an Adreno 320 GPU plus LTE connectivity.
One chipset matches the description - the Qualcomm APQ8064. There's an old rumor of the HTC Zeta with that chipset and roughly similar specs, but that's from before the HTC One series came to be.
Thanks for the tip, Chris!
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Mother of god...
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Mother of god...
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If this rumor is real the performance will be absolutely superb
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Holy that seems to be the cutting edge power device if it really comes up
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This sounds wicked, but -- what kind of battery does this thing have? I hope at least something around 2000 - 2500 mAh
With that much power... I COULD TAKE OVER THE WORLD... from my phone :good:
2010: Year of Single Core Phones
2011: Year of Dual Core Phones
2012: Year of Quad Core Phones
2013: Who knows probably this is going to be the year of Penta Core phones..?
I would rather wait 1 year than buying this phone.
Who knows maybe Galaxy S4 may have such cpu, 2Gb ram and GPU clocked by default at 600MHz..?
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I can see phones soon to get six core processors. Can't wait to see what Nvidia or Qualcomm has to offer in the near future.
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Wow, that is something. But i don't think they would put more then 2000mAh. The Krait processor's are indeed lees power hungry and HTC as always would bet on that and humor us with a small battery.....
I hope we can see some competition with Note 2
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I can see phones soon to get six core processors. Can't wait to see what Nvidia or Qualcomm has to offer in the near future.
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Intel will overcome all current chipsets by outperforming not only in terms of performance, but also in power usage. Who needs a 6-core chip in a phone?
I'd be happier seeing similar performance to what we now have with SGSIII and HTC OneX but with lower battery consumption. Surely that'll be the new priority?
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2010: Year of Single Core Phones
2011: Year of Dual Core Phones
2012: Year of Quad Core Phones
2013: Who knows probably this is going to be the year of Penta Core phones..?
I would rather wait 1 year than buying this phone.
Who knows maybe Galaxy S4 may have such cpu, 2Gb ram and GPU clocked by default at 600MHz..?
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buy an LG Optimus Me, Download 10 apps, then come back to me.
^ he said GPU not cpu, the gpu that Me had was clocked at around 128mhz.
Ansticexvi said:
^ he said GPU not cpu, the gpu that Me had was clocked at around 128mhz.
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Whoa! I officially hate my own phone....
Luk_Sch said:
If this rumor is real the performance will be absolutely superb
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Oh yeah if you call pointless amounts of CPU power that mostly NEVER gets fully accessed by any app. Combined with battery life that is measured in hours by the number of fingers on one hand.
Oh but you'll all be able to talk king of the hill garbage to your peasant friends who only own those obsolete dual core phones ......... hmmmm we droid users are soooo much more clued up and analytical about our hardware than iphone/iOS users aren't we
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2010: Year of Single Core Phones
2011: Year of Dual Core Phones
2012: Year of Quad Core Phones
2013: Who knows probably this is going to be the year of Penta Core phones..?
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Manufacturers will keep this nonsense up until customers stop being so mindlessly obsessed with having a pointlessly macho CPU.
Dual cores are pretty OTT themselves, quads are just silly really, anything else is just a pure marketing exercise, but they are easy to market to the simple minded.
There are a pile of Android phone issues that need WAY more attention than shoehorning more unusable CPU power into phones.
jhjhjhjh said:
Who needs a 6-core chip in a phone?
I'd be happier seeing similar performance to what we now have with SGSIII and HTC OneX but with lower battery consumption. Surely that'll be the new priority?
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Exactly but manufacturers find it way easier to sell EXTRA CPU. As the more important issues that need fixing, like battery life, Data/GPS reliability,etc are maybe a little too nuanced to attract the attention of the mid teens maturity market that largely drive this CPU over speccing.
Guru Zeb i agree with you. But that doesn't mean we can't admire the specs. I don't drive a muscle car either but i loooove them More CPU and GPU at one stage are pointless but it is fine by me, let them grow.....
What are we gona use or already using is matter of oppinion
I'm more worried about power consumption than more cores or higher clock speed. A quad core with 2gb of ram is enough for what I do with android. I just want a battery to last me through the day.
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I'm more worried about power consumption than more cores or higher clock speed. A quad core with 2gb of ram is enough for what I do with android. I just want a battery to last me through the day.
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That's very relatively.
What I'd really like to see is something with just the dual core version of S4 Pro, but with maybe 2 GHz-2.2 GHz clock speed, and highly improved power efficiency in the modem and in the CPU through various little tricks to bring down power usage all around, and then have dual channel 2 GB of RAM.
That's the power needed for basically everything on the market, after that what's most important is everything else. Industrial design (built to last well beyond 2 years), replaceable battery, expandable memory (support for exFAT and UHS-1 microSD please), INCREDIBLE RADIO RECEPTION (WiFi, cell voice/data, BT, GPS, NFC should all be incredibly good at holding onto signal without using immense amounts of power), fantastic display (S-LCD2 minimum quality), and it needs to both look good if possible, but most importantly, feel good and easy to hold in the hand. Stunning battery life, both when the screen is off and on. When the screen is off the battery should basically not drain at all, when the screen is on it should sip power, maybe last as long as 8 hours when web browsing on 3G...