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WM6 on G4 CID-Locked Prophet

Hello,
I am not a really experienced user in ROM upgrading, IPLs, SPLs, and the works. I have read a LOT about these subjects and i still don't understand a few things. Nevertheless i tried.
I own a G4 CID-Locked Prophet (QTEK S200) as described in the title and i tried upgrading to WM6 "just to see" what the hell would it do.
Before trying this WM6 upgrade i tried yet another thing which is kinda risky and actually turned this same S200 into a brick temporarily. I used the known shelltool_bugfixed application to upgrade to AKU 3.3.13 (extract OS from a complete ROM, then replace the OS file with the AKU 3.3.13 one) and it worked. I tried doing the same with clean1 V2 ROM and it bricked it.
I reflashed the Prophet with an original ROM using the novendor-id RUU, thinking it would never bring it to life, but it did. Also upgraded my SPL to 2.13.0001.
Then i tried upgading to clean1 V2 WM6 rom again (Jesus, stubborn guy) just by simply decompressing the files and running "UPGRADE_ROM.BAT". And it worked.
I was REALLY surprised because i read over and over again about this and i had the idea WM6 needed some special IPL and/or SPL and that my device had to be CID-Unlocked before the upgrade.
These are just a few events of yesterday and today with my Prophet which i wanted to share with you. I still find it unbelievable but here i am, running WM6 and happy as hell with it. WM6 really looks awesome and works a treat

^_^
If you dont write IPL/SPL without the right CID, you cant use all WM6 Firmwares ;-)

So you mean IPL and SPL are directly related to CID-Locks?
I wish i could understand that, it would help me figure out what i can use on my CID-Locked Prophet and what i can't... before i brick it for good
As i said above, when i "brought it back to life" with an original JamIN rom, it upgraded the SPL to 2.13.0001 (it was 2.10.0001 previously).

namco said:
So you mean IPL and SPL are directly related to CID-Locks?
I wish i could understand that, it would help me figure out what i can use on my CID-Locked Prophet and what i can't... before i brick it for good
As i said above, when i "brought it back to life" with an original JamIN rom, it upgraded the SPL to 2.13.0001 (it was 2.10.0001 previously).
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Don't know what your are talking about but all wm6 in this forum gave me no problems when i flashed them. Mine is CID locked G4 from ORANGE. So just try. There are lots of alternatives. All working more or less... Find the one better suits your prophet.

Read what i said in the first post. I know it's a bit confusing, but it says there i have successfully flashed my S200 with WM6 (smart1 V2 ROM).
I was just surprised because with all the spread information around WM6, i thought i needed to downgrade to some "special" IPL/SPL version or that i couldn't flash just because my G4 is CID-Locked.
After all, i can just flash about anything without bricking my S200. The only thing i think would brick it is if i downgraded (somehow) the IPL/SPL. Am i correct?

you can only upgrade IPL & SPL
but you can upgrade and downgrade OS
what I really confused about it, what is the relation between IPL&SPL and OS
as I understand, some OS need newer IPL & SPL
can any one correct me

secoseco said:
you can only upgrade IPL & SPL
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not exactly, on CID-locked device you can upgrade onlu SPL
secoseco said:
as I understand, some OS need newer IPL & SPL
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as I noticed, there isn't any relation between IPL/SPL and OS
and upgrading SPL doesn't take any profits

Radio, IPL & SPl Versions

It has been some time since I have been here and was wondering.
For someone who lives in California. AT&T
OS 1933
using TNT Build 18533.0.7.0
What is the best
Radio Version
IPL Version
SPI Version
to use. With the lease amount of errors.
And should I upgrade to the new TNT version? What is the benefits?
Thank you.

Firstly, taht is IPL and SPL, don't get it wrong.
IPL and SPL is currently at 3.08, which should be best for WM6 and WM6.1 OS ROMs.
For Radio, just use the one that get best reception as soon as it is 2.xx.

IPL & SPLfor Wizard G4
Could you please help to get latest IPL /SPL for G4 device

there is no ipl spl for g4 as far as i have seen of course i haven't been in wiz section much but dont flash any ipl spl my opinion possible bricking

ph03n1x said:
there is no ipl spl for g4 as far as i have seen of course i haven't been in wiz section much but dont flash any ipl spl my opinion possible bricking
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i second that .. no ipl/spl for g4 device except for olip version from hard spl ..
the radio is a network dependent selection .. choose from the ones in the ftp
i used almost all of them and the only one that worked perfect for me was the 2.19 .. find it in my signature
also i advice to use tnt rom .. also found in my signature .. it's great !
finally .. please dont brick ur device with ipl/spl installation ... it will brick it!

Cannot upgrade to any WM6

Hi guys.
I have this iMate Kjam (Not mine). It was with a T Mobile Official ROM and has IPL/SPL at v2.26. I checked and there was no G4 sign anywhere. Someone had to remove the CID thing to this. I downloaded several WM6 ROMs but once the complete flashing and the device reboots, I'm still in the T-Mobile ROM. I down-flashed to the age-old Button Love WM5 base ROM and here is the ROM status:
IPL: 1.01
SPL: 2.26
GSM: 1.12.10
OS: 1.5.4.2
If I upgrade from this point with, let's say, TNT5.0, here is what happens:
IPL: 1.01
SPL: 2.26
GSM: 1.12.10
OS: 1.5.4.2
Same right? but all the graphics change when booting. There is the HTC logo when device is turned on and there is the TNT 5.0 "BOOM" title when OS is loading (with the IPL/SPL/GSM/Radio)
Can someone tell me what is going on? HardSPL (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320) clearly tells me that device is NOT G4

Doomer D. Great said:
Hi guys.
I have this iMate Kjam (Not mine). It was with a T Mobile Official ROM and has IPL/SPL at v2.26. I checked and there was no G4 sign anywhere. Someone had to remove the CID thing to this. I downloaded several WM6 ROMs but once the complete flashing and the device reboots, I'm still in the T-Mobile ROM. I down-flashed to the age-old Button Love WM5 base ROM and here is the ROM status:
IPL: 1.01
SPL: 2.26
GSM: 1.12.10
OS: 1.5.4.2
If I upgrade from this point with, let's say, TNT5.0, here is what happens:
IPL: 1.01
SPL: 2.26
GSM: 1.12.10
OS: 1.5.4.2
Same right? but all the graphics change when booting. There is the HTC logo when device is turned on and there is the TNT 5.0 "BOOM" title when OS is loading (with the IPL/SPL/GSM/Radio)
Can someone tell me what is going on? HardSPL (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320) clearly tells me that device is NOT G4
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Update:
I was able to install the official T-Mobile ROM onto Button Love ROM. Here is the screen statistics:
IPL: 2.26
SPL: 2.26
GSM: 02.25.11
OS: 2.26.10.2
If I try to upgrade to WM6 now, nothing will happen as I've already tried. After the flash process, it will still be official TMobile...
What should I do now? If I compare the properties of this Wizard with my own, I'm pretty sure this should be a G4 device.

Flash Buttons ROM again and do a CID unlock. That's it! Have fun!

I have a G3, but I had to flash Button twice so that the IPL/SPL matched, then I unlocked and reflashed 2.26 stock (again be sure that IPL/SPL match numbers), then from there I joined rom flashers anonymous!

akashastrega said:
I have a G3, but I had to flash Button twice so that the IPL/SPL matched, then I unlocked and reflashed 2.26 stock (again be sure that IPL/SPL match numbers), then from there I joined rom flashers anonymous!
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Trying the Button Love ROM the third time... the SPL just won't drop... whats going on?
Cyberdyne said:
Flash Buttons ROM again and do a CID unlock. That's it! Have fun!
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The only avaliable HardSPL tool doesn't recognize the device as G4... so how do I forced CID unlock? I tried SoftSPL... but at that time, my IPL and SPL were different...

Lets face the situation
IF you have
IPL 2.26 or 1.xx
SPL 2.26 or 2.XX
You have a G3 device - forget do not use Hard SPL or Soft SPL, these are ONLY FOR G4 DEVICES
Since you have a G3 Device you have 2 options
If you have IPL 1.xx and SPL 2.xx . use WST (Wizard Service Tools) to unlock your CID device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329170
Note that only with IPL 1.xx you are hable to unlock your CID with WST
If you have IPL 2.xx and SPL 2.xx, than you must downgrade both to IPL/SPL 1.xx with an official ROM
Before you do something, install WST in you PC, and check the real situation of your device

Pisca said:
Lets face the situation
IF you have
IPL 2.26 or 1.xx
SPL 2.26 or 2.XX
You have a G3 device - forget do not use Hard SPL or Soft SPL, these are ONLY FOR G4 DEVICES
Since you have a G3 Device you have 2 options
If you have IPL 1.xx and SPL 2.xx . use WST (Wizard Service Tools) to unlock your CID device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329170
Note that only with IPL 1.xx you are hable to unlock your CID with WST
If you have IPL 2.xx and SPL 2.xx, than you must downgrade both to IPL/SPL 1.xx with an official ROM
Before you do something, install WST in you PC, and check the real situation of your device
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Excellent.
If I'm on Button Love ROM, I have IPL v1.x ad SPL v2.x
Should I upgrade to WM6 from here?
If not, then I have to upgrade to Officia T-Mobile ROm. Then IPL/SPL = v2.26 but WM6 won't flash...

Ah ! c'mon guys
Give this guy a break.
Doomer D. Great
Go read and fully undrstand this guide to CID unlock your phone and upgrade.
BTW,its a G3 phone you got there,forget anything about G4,you are only concern shud be regarding G3 device.

Doomer D. Great
Go read and fully undrstand this guide to CID unlock your phone and upgrade.
BTW,its a G3 phone you got there,forget anything about G4,you are only concern shud be regarding G3 device.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies

zabardast_1 said:
Doomer D. Great
Go read and fully undrstand this guide to CID unlock your phone and upgrade.
BTW,its a G3 phone you got there,forget anything about G4,you are only concern shud be regarding G3 device.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
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Actually, I followed what Pisca said about using WT and it worked... in Button Love, I finally CID unlocked and upgraded to Official TMobile. Then TNT5.0. All Well
Thank you very much!
Problem solved

Doomer D. Great said:
Excellent.
If I'm on Button Love ROM, I have IPL v1.x ad SPL v2.x
Should I upgrade to WM6 from here?
If not, then I have to upgrade to Officia T-Mobile ROm. Then IPL/SPL = v2.26 but WM6 won't flash...
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Ok, if you are on IPL 1.xx and SPL 2.xx, you can use WST-Wizard Service Tool 4.2.2 to CID unlock
Then you should load a carrier ROm T-Mobile to get IPL/SPL 2.xx
But allways read as mentioned in the previous post

Doomer D. Great said:
Actually, I followed what Pisca said about using WT and it worked... in Button Love, I finally CID unlocked and upgraded to Official TMobile. Then TNT5.0. All Well
Thank you very much!
Problem solved
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Great forget my last post

Latest IPL/SPL

Do I need them or not?
I'm currently on
2.21.0001
2.21.0lip
02.69.11
10.1.0.811
Running mfrazz XM6r5
Want to create a ROM with all of the o2 settings I need with the latest (or best if new=bugged) ROM bits with just the basic apps I use.

Trig0r said:
Do I need them or not?
I'm currently on
2.21.0001
2.21.0lip
02.69.11
10.1.0.811
Running mfrazz XM6r5
Want to create a ROM with all of the o2 settings I need with the latest (or best if new=bugged) ROM bits with just the basic apps I use.
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Be Carefull !!!
Your phone is 'HardSPL' DO NOT,I repeat Do Not flash any rom containing any IPL/SPL in it,otherwise,it'll 'BRICK' the phone.
If you want to flash any official rom with IPL/SPL,then first remove HardSPL and revert back to Original official IPL/SPL and then upgrade the IPL/SPL!

zabardast_1 said:
Be Carefull !!!
Your phone is 'HardSPL' DO NOT,I repeat Do Not flash any rom containing any IPL/SPL in it,otherwise,it'll 'BRICK' the phone.
If you want to flash any official rom with IPL/SPL,then first remove HardSPL and revert back to Original official IPL/SPL and then upgrade the IPL/SPL!
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exactly. dont try stunt without proper precautions. but anyways what is the latest Ipl & Spl. i heard about 3.09 sometime back but never got hands on it.

How to go back from 3.08.0001 SPL to 2.21.0001 SPL on G4

Hallo. Can I go back to my previous SPL/IPL??I unfortunate upgreated my G4, WIZA 200 to 3.08..I have no idea how to go back or just make 2,25, 2,26..for instance. It was: IPL 2.21.2.126 SPL 2.21.0001. PLEASE HELP.

Hi,
why do you wanna downgrade?
I use 3.08.0001, too, but don' see any reason to change it.
If you still have to, you can try the Wizard Service Tool. It allows to flash almost everything, even an older IPL/SPL.
All you need is this tool and a ROM file with the IPL/SPL version you want to flash. Tryout the OEM Roms in the Wizard Wiki. At least one of them should have the right version.
Duke

wm6 on G4
I think I can not install WM 6.0 without CID remowing..and It is impossible to do with 3.08 SPL...Am I right?

Hi,
I got an Wizard G4, too, with WM 6.1, IPL/SPL 3.08.001 and CID NOT unlocked.
As said, you can try the WST, worked very well for me. Maybe you have to flash an original WM5.0 ROM before trying to flash WM6, that's how it worked for me.
Duke