It has been some time since I have been here and was wondering.
For someone who lives in California. AT&T
OS 1933
using TNT Build 18533.0.7.0
What is the best
Radio Version
IPL Version
SPI Version
to use. With the lease amount of errors.
And should I upgrade to the new TNT version? What is the benefits?
Thank you.
Firstly, taht is IPL and SPL, don't get it wrong.
IPL and SPL is currently at 3.08, which should be best for WM6 and WM6.1 OS ROMs.
For Radio, just use the one that get best reception as soon as it is 2.xx.
IPL & SPLfor Wizard G4
Could you please help to get latest IPL /SPL for G4 device
there is no ipl spl for g4 as far as i have seen of course i haven't been in wiz section much but dont flash any ipl spl my opinion possible bricking
ph03n1x said:
there is no ipl spl for g4 as far as i have seen of course i haven't been in wiz section much but dont flash any ipl spl my opinion possible bricking
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i second that .. no ipl/spl for g4 device except for olip version from hard spl ..
the radio is a network dependent selection .. choose from the ones in the ftp
i used almost all of them and the only one that worked perfect for me was the 2.19 .. find it in my signature
also i advice to use tnt rom .. also found in my signature .. it's great !
finally .. please dont brick ur device with ipl/spl installation ... it will brick it!
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Hello,
I am not a really experienced user in ROM upgrading, IPLs, SPLs, and the works. I have read a LOT about these subjects and i still don't understand a few things. Nevertheless i tried.
I own a G4 CID-Locked Prophet (QTEK S200) as described in the title and i tried upgrading to WM6 "just to see" what the hell would it do.
Before trying this WM6 upgrade i tried yet another thing which is kinda risky and actually turned this same S200 into a brick temporarily. I used the known shelltool_bugfixed application to upgrade to AKU 3.3.13 (extract OS from a complete ROM, then replace the OS file with the AKU 3.3.13 one) and it worked. I tried doing the same with clean1 V2 ROM and it bricked it.
I reflashed the Prophet with an original ROM using the novendor-id RUU, thinking it would never bring it to life, but it did. Also upgraded my SPL to 2.13.0001.
Then i tried upgading to clean1 V2 WM6 rom again (Jesus, stubborn guy) just by simply decompressing the files and running "UPGRADE_ROM.BAT". And it worked.
I was REALLY surprised because i read over and over again about this and i had the idea WM6 needed some special IPL and/or SPL and that my device had to be CID-Unlocked before the upgrade.
These are just a few events of yesterday and today with my Prophet which i wanted to share with you. I still find it unbelievable but here i am, running WM6 and happy as hell with it. WM6 really looks awesome and works a treat
^_^
If you dont write IPL/SPL without the right CID, you cant use all WM6 Firmwares ;-)
So you mean IPL and SPL are directly related to CID-Locks?
I wish i could understand that, it would help me figure out what i can use on my CID-Locked Prophet and what i can't... before i brick it for good
As i said above, when i "brought it back to life" with an original JamIN rom, it upgraded the SPL to 2.13.0001 (it was 2.10.0001 previously).
namco said:
So you mean IPL and SPL are directly related to CID-Locks?
I wish i could understand that, it would help me figure out what i can use on my CID-Locked Prophet and what i can't... before i brick it for good
As i said above, when i "brought it back to life" with an original JamIN rom, it upgraded the SPL to 2.13.0001 (it was 2.10.0001 previously).
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Don't know what your are talking about but all wm6 in this forum gave me no problems when i flashed them. Mine is CID locked G4 from ORANGE. So just try. There are lots of alternatives. All working more or less... Find the one better suits your prophet.
Read what i said in the first post. I know it's a bit confusing, but it says there i have successfully flashed my S200 with WM6 (smart1 V2 ROM).
I was just surprised because with all the spread information around WM6, i thought i needed to downgrade to some "special" IPL/SPL version or that i couldn't flash just because my G4 is CID-Locked.
After all, i can just flash about anything without bricking my S200. The only thing i think would brick it is if i downgraded (somehow) the IPL/SPL. Am i correct?
you can only upgrade IPL & SPL
but you can upgrade and downgrade OS
what I really confused about it, what is the relation between IPL&SPL and OS
as I understand, some OS need newer IPL & SPL
can any one correct me
secoseco said:
you can only upgrade IPL & SPL
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not exactly, on CID-locked device you can upgrade onlu SPL
secoseco said:
as I understand, some OS need newer IPL & SPL
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as I noticed, there isn't any relation between IPL/SPL and OS
and upgrading SPL doesn't take any profits
i have the 818pro upgrade to 2.20.
how to downgrade to before 818pro spl.
now i try to upgrade to 818pro 2.15 rom, but cannot. why ?
i need to help ... pls
High IPL/SPL Version wins! You cant downgrade!
Hi wg132,
You can downgrade if your device is a G3.
Check if your IPL/SPL end with x.xx.0000 (x.xx.0001 are G4)
Firstly, you need to CID unlock your device by flashing rom using
pdamobiz.com_downgrade_and_unlockcid rom.rar
(Please note that this rom is not usable and serve only to unlock CID)
You can then downgrade your SPL to 2.15 using
RUU_Prophet_2151327_21513121_021921_DOP_ASIA_WWE_S hip-NoVendorID.zip
I don't have the links to the above files. You need to search for them yourself. Hope this helps.
wg132 said:
i have the 818pro upgrade to 2.20.
how to downgrade to before 818pro spl.
now i try to upgrade to 818pro 2.15 rom, but cannot. why ?
i need to help ... pls
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Why do you need to downgrade SPL 2.20? Is there any specific problem with that SPL? so far my SPL 2.20 is working well with WM6 and WM5. I wouldnt touch IPL and or upgrade SPL to 3.xx
kenxu said:
Why do you need to downgrade SPL 2.20? Is there any specific problem with that SPL? so far my SPL 2.20 is working well with WM6 and WM5. I wouldnt touch IPL and or upgrade SPL to 3.xx
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What is IPL and SPL?
BIOS ... Bootloader ... Radioloader
if i have 3.08 can i do this?
no ... higher version number wins and the next ... spl 3.08 is charmer ... it means no prophet spl can flashed back!
can i flash it with another charmer?
uhm ... if you want brick/damage your device ... sure
this are a modded spl to run on prophet! highest prophet spl is version 2.58 and only for g4. nobody have uploaded in the moment!
hi all.. just a little question here.. im using dopod 818 pro G3. as far as i read in this forum.. all mention that ipl 2.20.0000. but why my ipl is only showing 2.20 and no 0000 at the end? is that common or something wrong with my dopod 818 pro?
Hello everyone,
I'm totally lost in this WM6 upgrade.
I've tried everything but i wont get my MDA Vario to flash with WM6.
My MDA Vario is unlocked (sim and CID) but i can't flash it because of my SPL 2.21????
This is what i have done:
installed button's 1.05 ROM
Download & installed lokiwiz - HTC Wizard Unlocker UPDATE Version 0.2b.
But stil my SPL is at 2.21.
Can someone please help me out here??
Thanks in advance!
Regards,
Schmia
Both your IPL and your SPL must be 2.xx and higher. After you flashed to Buttons rom. did you reflash to a higher version after after you unlocked and cid unlocked your phone to make sure both IPL and SPL were 2.xx or higher?
I've followed the tutorial:
16. Watch the rebooting of your PDA, if BOTH IPL and SPL are 1.xx then great. Quite probably your IPL will be 1.xx and your SPL will be 2.xx. Rerun the button 1.05 ROM downgrade a second time and it will become 1.x on both IPL and SPL. You don't need to redo the unlocking.
17. My suggestion, take for what it's worth, is to download and install the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM
This will give you a strong 2.26 IPL and SPL to work with.
My IPL was 1.XX after the 1.05 downgrade, but my SPL was still 2.21 even after the rerun.
I have tried to instal T-Mobile 2.26 rom, but it gave an error.
check if you have G3 or G4 unit
I have a 3G device.
Is there nobody who can help me???
schmia said:
Is there nobody who can help me???
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I think that you haven't unlocked the phone properly. Read Dr. P's tutorial about unlocking G3 phones.
Kirby
if your ipl is 1.05 and your spl is still 2.21...then you need to reflash again so that both ipl and spl are 1.05 before you can proceed. ipl and spl should never be different.
WHen you downgrade to the Button rom, in most cases the IPL will change, but the SPL will not. You then have to downgrade again to get the SPL to get to 1.xx . There have been some cases reported where it takes reflahsing the button rom many times (like 8 times or somesuch) before the SPL will finally come down, but you have to complete this step or you will not be CID Unlocked.
Make sure you have your SD card out when you are flashing as this can cause problems.
Good luck, and sorry, but for those that have run into the stuck SPL there hasn't been a real solution other than keep flashing the button rom until it drops down to 1.xx. After that then the CID unlock will be complete and you can then flash the T-Mobile 2.26 rom (or whatever other 2.xx rom you want).
mfrazzz said:
WHen you downgrade to the Button rom, in most cases the IPL will change, but the SPL will not. You then have to downgrade again to get the SPL to get to 1.xx . There have been some cases reported where it takes reflahsing the button rom many times (like 8 times or somesuch) before the SPL will finally come down, but you have to complete this step or you will not be CID Unlocked.
Make sure you have your SD card out when you are flashing as this can cause problems.
Good luck, and sorry, but for those that have run into the stuck SPL there hasn't been a real solution other than keep flashing the button rom until it drops down to 1.xx. After that then the CID unlock will be complete and you can then flash the T-Mobile 2.26 rom (or whatever other 2.xx rom you want).
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This should be added to the tutorials about Unlocking & Rom Upgrading.
And this quote also.
"if your ipl is 1.05 and your spl is still 2.21...then you need to reflash again so that both ipl and spl are 1.05 before you can proceed. ipl and spl should never be different."
Cing 8125 said:
This should be added to the tutorials about Unlocking & Rom Upgrading.
And this quote also.
"if your ipl is 1.05 and your spl is still 2.21...then you need to reflash again so that both ipl and spl are 1.05 before you can proceed. ipl and spl should never be different."
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The Dr. P tutorial specifically says this (just not in those words). It tells you (after the last lokiwiz) to watch your screen and that you most likely will still have an SPL of 2.xx and will need to reflash (most people just don't read this and try to move on). The part of about having to reflash numerous times is new though. I've only heard of it a few times, but if you look at the posts from a month or so agao in the Dr P thread on unlocking you'll see where a few people ran into it and it took numerous flashes to finally get SPL to go to 1.xx.
before wm6 roms, every time there was a new rom for wm5 (molski or faria) you'd always get people in the thread mentioning that their ipl and spl are different. in those threads, the advice has always been to reflash a few extra times too. (I personally haven't had any problems with this...but i think i started my unlocking on a 1.8 us t-mobile rom with xelencin's rom...which had an unlocker built into the rom update package).
anyway, the phone's not bricked or anything, so you just have to keep flashing to get it working...
xelencin's rom (the first rom I ever flashed...)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274205&highlight=xelencin
monkey_knight said:
if your ipl is 1.05 and your spl is still 2.21...then you need to reflash again so that both ipl and spl are 1.05 before you can proceed. ipl and spl should never be different.
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I've re-flashed 3 times but if i understand correct, than i have to retry flashing until SPL and IPL are the same?
Regards,
Schmia
schmia said:
I've re-flashed 3 times but if i understand correct, than i have to retry flashing until SPL and IPL are the same?
Regards,
Schmia
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yes. ipl and spl should both drop to 1.05. at that point you can go through the unlock and flash back up.
Thanks Guys!!!
With all your good advise, i finally have my MDA Vario flashed with a WM6 rom (TNT 2.0 Professional)
I'm really greatfull to you!
Now i have to find out what WM6 rom is the best for me.
Regards,
Schmia
How can i upgrade my SPL version to 2.20?
i have a g4 prophet with SPL and IPL 2.10.
Thanks
Brun0_0000 said:
How can i upgrade my SPL version to 2.20?
i have a g4 prophet with SPL and IPL 2.10.
Thanks
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There is an item on the WiKi about this. Is there any big reason why you want to though? Because any damage done during this process is very hard to rectify...
When the wiki starts working for me, I'll find you the page...
Thank you. i already update to version 2.G4.4PDA. but i want to update to version 2.20.0001
The easiest way to do that is to flash a WM5 Official ROM such as the Orange one (they are all available on the FTP server).
Hi guys.
I have this iMate Kjam (Not mine). It was with a T Mobile Official ROM and has IPL/SPL at v2.26. I checked and there was no G4 sign anywhere. Someone had to remove the CID thing to this. I downloaded several WM6 ROMs but once the complete flashing and the device reboots, I'm still in the T-Mobile ROM. I down-flashed to the age-old Button Love WM5 base ROM and here is the ROM status:
IPL: 1.01
SPL: 2.26
GSM: 1.12.10
OS: 1.5.4.2
If I upgrade from this point with, let's say, TNT5.0, here is what happens:
IPL: 1.01
SPL: 2.26
GSM: 1.12.10
OS: 1.5.4.2
Same right? but all the graphics change when booting. There is the HTC logo when device is turned on and there is the TNT 5.0 "BOOM" title when OS is loading (with the IPL/SPL/GSM/Radio)
Can someone tell me what is going on? HardSPL (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320) clearly tells me that device is NOT G4
Doomer D. Great said:
Hi guys.
I have this iMate Kjam (Not mine). It was with a T Mobile Official ROM and has IPL/SPL at v2.26. I checked and there was no G4 sign anywhere. Someone had to remove the CID thing to this. I downloaded several WM6 ROMs but once the complete flashing and the device reboots, I'm still in the T-Mobile ROM. I down-flashed to the age-old Button Love WM5 base ROM and here is the ROM status:
IPL: 1.01
SPL: 2.26
GSM: 1.12.10
OS: 1.5.4.2
If I upgrade from this point with, let's say, TNT5.0, here is what happens:
IPL: 1.01
SPL: 2.26
GSM: 1.12.10
OS: 1.5.4.2
Same right? but all the graphics change when booting. There is the HTC logo when device is turned on and there is the TNT 5.0 "BOOM" title when OS is loading (with the IPL/SPL/GSM/Radio)
Can someone tell me what is going on? HardSPL (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320) clearly tells me that device is NOT G4
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Update:
I was able to install the official T-Mobile ROM onto Button Love ROM. Here is the screen statistics:
IPL: 2.26
SPL: 2.26
GSM: 02.25.11
OS: 2.26.10.2
If I try to upgrade to WM6 now, nothing will happen as I've already tried. After the flash process, it will still be official TMobile...
What should I do now? If I compare the properties of this Wizard with my own, I'm pretty sure this should be a G4 device.
Flash Buttons ROM again and do a CID unlock. That's it! Have fun!
I have a G3, but I had to flash Button twice so that the IPL/SPL matched, then I unlocked and reflashed 2.26 stock (again be sure that IPL/SPL match numbers), then from there I joined rom flashers anonymous!
akashastrega said:
I have a G3, but I had to flash Button twice so that the IPL/SPL matched, then I unlocked and reflashed 2.26 stock (again be sure that IPL/SPL match numbers), then from there I joined rom flashers anonymous!
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Trying the Button Love ROM the third time... the SPL just won't drop... whats going on?
Cyberdyne said:
Flash Buttons ROM again and do a CID unlock. That's it! Have fun!
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The only avaliable HardSPL tool doesn't recognize the device as G4... so how do I forced CID unlock? I tried SoftSPL... but at that time, my IPL and SPL were different...
Lets face the situation
IF you have
IPL 2.26 or 1.xx
SPL 2.26 or 2.XX
You have a G3 device - forget do not use Hard SPL or Soft SPL, these are ONLY FOR G4 DEVICES
Since you have a G3 Device you have 2 options
If you have IPL 1.xx and SPL 2.xx . use WST (Wizard Service Tools) to unlock your CID device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329170
Note that only with IPL 1.xx you are hable to unlock your CID with WST
If you have IPL 2.xx and SPL 2.xx, than you must downgrade both to IPL/SPL 1.xx with an official ROM
Before you do something, install WST in you PC, and check the real situation of your device
Pisca said:
Lets face the situation
IF you have
IPL 2.26 or 1.xx
SPL 2.26 or 2.XX
You have a G3 device - forget do not use Hard SPL or Soft SPL, these are ONLY FOR G4 DEVICES
Since you have a G3 Device you have 2 options
If you have IPL 1.xx and SPL 2.xx . use WST (Wizard Service Tools) to unlock your CID device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329170
Note that only with IPL 1.xx you are hable to unlock your CID with WST
If you have IPL 2.xx and SPL 2.xx, than you must downgrade both to IPL/SPL 1.xx with an official ROM
Before you do something, install WST in you PC, and check the real situation of your device
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Excellent.
If I'm on Button Love ROM, I have IPL v1.x ad SPL v2.x
Should I upgrade to WM6 from here?
If not, then I have to upgrade to Officia T-Mobile ROm. Then IPL/SPL = v2.26 but WM6 won't flash...
Ah ! c'mon guys
Give this guy a break.
Doomer D. Great
Go read and fully undrstand this guide to CID unlock your phone and upgrade.
BTW,its a G3 phone you got there,forget anything about G4,you are only concern shud be regarding G3 device.
Doomer D. Great
Go read and fully undrstand this guide to CID unlock your phone and upgrade.
BTW,its a G3 phone you got there,forget anything about G4,you are only concern shud be regarding G3 device.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
zabardast_1 said:
Doomer D. Great
Go read and fully undrstand this guide to CID unlock your phone and upgrade.
BTW,its a G3 phone you got there,forget anything about G4,you are only concern shud be regarding G3 device.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
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Actually, I followed what Pisca said about using WT and it worked... in Button Love, I finally CID unlocked and upgraded to Official TMobile. Then TNT5.0. All Well
Thank you very much!
Problem solved
Doomer D. Great said:
Excellent.
If I'm on Button Love ROM, I have IPL v1.x ad SPL v2.x
Should I upgrade to WM6 from here?
If not, then I have to upgrade to Officia T-Mobile ROm. Then IPL/SPL = v2.26 but WM6 won't flash...
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Ok, if you are on IPL 1.xx and SPL 2.xx, you can use WST-Wizard Service Tool 4.2.2 to CID unlock
Then you should load a carrier ROm T-Mobile to get IPL/SPL 2.xx
But allways read as mentioned in the previous post
Doomer D. Great said:
Actually, I followed what Pisca said about using WT and it worked... in Button Love, I finally CID unlocked and upgraded to Official TMobile. Then TNT5.0. All Well
Thank you very much!
Problem solved
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Great forget my last post