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You just gotta give it a try! http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=228137&t=1207135984&page=1#comment2503516
It works extremely good with latest Jbed on my HTC S710, make sure you install the version with all the certificates... You can now save webpages, download files directly within the browser (now Opera Mini doesn't have to launch a separate one for downloading!), you can also find text in pages among other improvements.
One of the best mobile browsers just got better, I'm completely amazed by it!
Link direct to beta...http://www.operamini.com/beta/
Is this better than the Opera 9.5 beta?
looks good, but still the same bug that if you entered text, the progress bar is hidden bhind the pocket pc footer bar
donutman said:
Is this better than the Opera 9.5 beta?
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nah man this wouldnt be 9.5 opera mini and opera for pocket pc are diffrent
great step in the right direction but i hate having to go to the enter text screen. they made it so the address bar dosnt have to do that any more why cant they do it for the rest of it?
Also read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382245
This is my question
IS THE LATEST SKYFIRE FASTER,BETTER,SEXIER(lol) THAN THE LATEST OPERA MOBILE!!!!??????
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This is my question
IS THE LATEST SKYFIRE FASTER,BETTER,SEXIER(lol) THAN THE LATEST OPERA MOBILE!!!!??????
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Not for me
I´m with Opera!!
orb3000 said:
Not for me
I´m with Opera!!
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WHY??
skyfires startup time BEATS operas hands down
PLUS skyfire allows u to watch flash video and is flash enabled
unlike the newest opera which doesnt even support flash
Skyfire is QVGA, and looks quite bad on VGA. However, I haven't tried Opera Mini on VGA - can anyone comment?
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WHY??
skyfires startup time BEATS operas hands down
PLUS skyfire allows u to watch flash video and is flash enabled
unlike the newest opera which doesnt even support flash
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Agreed. Also SkyFire's browsing & scrolling is absolutely far superior to Opera. The only thing SkyFire is missing is options - it only as about 6, while Opera has about 600. But it's only 1.0, those things will eventually make their way into the browser.
Skyfire for me is faster than opera mobile, and i use it for flash videos.
The only laggy thing i think is the scrolling, that in Opera is better.
However if you don't need to see flash content...skyfire is useless, i use UCWEB of NetFront
You should see Skyfire on HD ^^' Opera Mobile is better but no flash...
D'rath
D'rath said:
You should see Skyfire on HD ^^' Opera Mobile is better but no flash...
D'rath
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I want to try it out too. He he he... But from the supports page on their website it says it supports WVGA as well.
Are they telling us fibs. Can you post any screen shots of what it looks like on your HD?
Love to see flash videos (not just You Tube) on my WinMo.
well i did a test on both skyfire and opera on the loading times
skyfire took 14 sec. to load 1src.com
and opera only 10 sec. to load 1src.com
anyone else wanna test?
Opera Mobile, Opera Mini, Skyfire, Mach5, PIE
I have posted something similar somewhere else, however I think this is valid...
We have two different types of browser available
Client side (which means your browser on you PPC/HTC does all the work) or Server side (which means a fast computer somewhere does all the work and sends your PPC pictures of what is happening)
Client Side positives
You decide settings
You install all your favourite add-ons (flash etc)
You keep all you log-on settings
The rendering and compatability is what you install/set (also could be a negative if you aren't competent here)
Server Side positives
Your PPC doesn't need to install anything extra (flash etc), as it's all done on server side
All rendering is done by Server side, so it's simply plug n' play!!
And the negatives (which usually make the choice on such small devices as PPC)
Client Side
Usually takes up memory to install all plug-ins required to visit different sited on the web (eg, flash) (i.e, the more you have installed your PPC, the more compatible it will be with more web sites/pages)
Slows the computer, and takes up memory to render the page (everything needs to be downloaded and processed)
Server Side
You're at the hands of the server (is it set up for QVGA/VGA, how does it input text etc)
The fastest it works is by sending you pictures (whereas you may have a dedicated flash player, such as TCPMP etc)
Your log-on settings are kept by the server (someone else)
The rendering is only as good as the server
The server may be in a different locale to you
The connection takes the bottle-neck (i.e, the faster your connection, the better videos will be - you really need a contract/cost limit on your data downloads!)
So as for Skyfire is "Server Side". Skyfire renders as QVGA (even though it does work on VGA, it doesn't look any good).
Opera is Client Side. This means it really can't really be compared to Skyfire in the same way as, say, Mach5 could... but could be compared to PIE.
However, Opera Mini is Server Side - and I think there's some great advances are now there. Anyone comment on Opera Mini compared to Skyfire?
However, Opera Mini is Server Side - and I think there's some great advances are now there. Anyone comment on Opera Mini compared to Skyfire?
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i have to say that opera mini is truly fast but i ALSO LOVE BOLT and UCWEB
BOLT- best feature is the split screen. good for large pages
UCWEB- has features like multiple tabs
Opera for me,...Skyfire looks terrible on my hd and is slow as heck,....+ I watch porn on my laptop as it has a bigger screen ;-)
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+ I watch porn on my laptop as it has a bigger screen ;-)
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lol i was gonna say the extacly same thing but i was like naw lol
i tried watchin it on skyfire and the load time was really quick
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lol i was gonna say the extacly same thing but i was like naw lol
i tried watchin it on skyfire and the load time was really quick
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LOL, Ive tried skyfire a few times (different builds) but have never been impressed with it. It worked well on my n96 (about the only thing that did)
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I want to try it out too. He he he... But from the supports page on their website it says it supports WVGA as well.
Are they telling us fibs. Can you post any screen shots of what it looks like on your HD?
Love to see flash videos (not just You Tube) on my WinMo.
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Screens in *.png aren't mine (I cannot make shoots of my Display) but you could see page rendering output.
On HD Skyfire is horrible... I use IE with flash: it's slow, few optimized but make similar PC...
D'rath
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Screens in *.png aren't mine (I cannot make shoots of my Display) but you could see page rendering output.
On HD Skyfire is horrible... I use IE with flash: it's slow, few optimized but make similar PC...
D'rath
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Thanks mate. Wow! That is fxxking ugly man! Not going to touch that with barge pole. Saves from downloading it.
I guess I have to wait till IE6 comes out. Maybe that will be better contender?
HD
On my Touch HD i prefer Opera. I only use Skyfire for flash based sites. Even for YouTube i prefer the specific application rather than Skyfire. May be my comments are not so scientific but i feel Opera more smooth and nice looking overall.
Exellent explanation -Jonny-!!!
i could see sticking with skyfire if it wasn't so stupid
skyfire.com hosts all your bookmarks and history
wtf?!?!
having to load a browser page just to see my bookmarks
it takes forever...huge fail
flash is nice...but absolutely ZERO speedtest pages load
i must have tried about 20 on google search for speed tests - all failed with 404
other than that
opera mini - no text selection...and no flash...7mbps+
opera beta - no flash - navigating the zoom frustrates me often (turbo is fast)
i'm on a htc 6800 (mogul/titan)
having more than one browser installed is such a waste of resources
i wish someone could make something that simply works...
you would think a mobile browser would be something basic & simple
i just cant see why its so complicated...but i'm not a programmer
its obvious what everyone wants but each browser only has a few qualities
i find myself using ie more...an option you can always go back to with minimal letdowns
at least its problems i can deal with and dont make me want to hurl my brick phone into a deep river along with my body tied to it
i will keep trying new browsers i havent yet though i'm not expecting much:
ucweb
bolt
mach5
pie (what is pie i've heard it mentioned but cant find any info)
any info on these browsers appreciated if anything is not obvious like basic installation or source for program.
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ok just downloaded opera 9.7beta and its sooo much faster then the stock opera 9.5
I was wondering if theirs a way to change out the default 9.5 to 9.7 on the TF3d tab?
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ok just downloaded opera 9.7beta and its sooo much faster then the stock opera 9.5
I was wondering if theirs a way to change out the default 9.5 to 9.7 on the TF3d tab?
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it should be in a registry key... search for that?
samrozzi said:
ok just downloaded opera 9.7beta and its sooo much faster then the stock opera 9.5
I was wondering if theirs a way to change out the default 9.5 to 9.7 on the TF3d tab?
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Good question! I HATE when the OEM/Carriers burn these apps into the ROM, either preventing you from ever upgrading them, or forcing you to use or create cooked ROMs.
I personally find both the PIE and the Opera browsers that came stock with my AT&T Fuze somewhat lacking, preventing me from perusing a few of my favorite sites, and wish I could look for upgrades to them. Until I start fiddling with the actual ROM, though, I am stuck looking for alternative browsers altogether (Picsel, Opera Mini, etc.), and I find the available selections are not fitting my needs, either.
I wanted to wait a while longer before I started playing with some kitchens, but it looks like it might happen sooner than planned, at this point.
Anyone with an idea outside of cooking? Is there any way to install an upgraded Opera on top of the cr4p one that came with the device?
-pvs
Hmmm, Iris Browser v1.1.9 looks pretty promising!
Hi all,
FWIW, I just DL'd the latest Iris Browser (v1.1.9) this morning, and played with it on my commute into work, and find it's really quite good. I will need to play with it a bit more to figure out what it's true strengths/weaknesses are, but from the short test I did, I'm optimistic.
Text size gets a bit small, though, and if you increase the zoom, and you need to scroll around. It would be nice if there was a way to increase the text size and still have it fit the width of the screen, but I think I can live with this. It renders pages that IE and Opera choke on, and it does so quickly. It does tabbed browsing, the circle-zoom thingie, and is g-sensor-aware, so that's cool too.
It automatically stores its cache wherever you have IE Temporary Internet Files located, so there's no need to tweak that setting if you already have IE set the way you want.
It doesn't look like it supports flash or .FLV content, yet, so that's a minus.
But it's free for non-business use, so the price is right! ;-)
If interested, you can get it here.
Hope somebody finds this info useful.
-pvs
have you tried skyfire? it's free and it supports flash
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have you tried skyfire? it's free and it supports flash
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Yes, I have. it appears to only support two zoom levels, and those at qvga resolution only. I have a very hard time trying to read the pages it renders.
I sure wish someone would create a browser where one could lock the text size, and then the browser would render the text within the screen size. This zooming with the same gestures as panning is driving me crazy.
Thanks for your suggestion, tho.
-pvs
Any new opinions of Opera 9.7beta?
Anyone using Opera Mini? What do you think about that?
i know it was just announced but has anybody gotten the app yet? its supposed to be going out to carriers and oem's, not us consumers(yet). im hopoing someone leaks it quick! or does someone already have it? if so please share
really? were? site? >_> I DONT BELIVE YOU lol
http://www.androidcentral.com/opear-mobile-available-android-you-cant-have-it-yet
somebody has to leak it 1!!!1
apparently chances of that are low... but!!! now theyve announced that opera mini 5 is coming soon!!! anybody have that yet??
I was using Opera Mini 5 beta on WM6.1 and it was good, but it felt a bit too mobile. Every page I went on was loading in mobile mode, an sites with flash never loaded properly for me. I had a slide out keyboard, and I am sure it was a beta issue, but it was forcing me use the on screen keyboard. It was decent, but on a 2.8in screen felt very cramped. Opera 10 beta on the other hand loaded a bit slower to start up and web page loading was noticeably slower. However, web pages loaded more normal for me. That was on WM6.1 on a decently speedy device, on Android things could be a whole different story.
well i think either one, will be the best browser for android so far. mainly i like it because of that amazing speed in loading pages! even 4.2 is fast and i'd use that except the UI is horrible...
Opera mini5 (beta) was the best browser while I was using winmobile devices!
The interface was clever, the way it handled tabs was genius, it was sooo damn fast and the fact that you could go back in your browsing history without the browser reloading the page from the scratch was damn useful. I so hate that on the android browser (well, on actual browsers in general).
I'm really looking forward to the android-version but I'm afraid it won't support the hardware-keyboard of my G1 =(
So, is there any compelling reason to use Opera Mobile 10 over the Android browser? Will HTC flash work with Mobile 10? I can see a reason to use Mini 5 as that is a fast browser, and is fairly light. However, I can't see any reason to use Mobile 10 other than preference.
Well, if Opera 10 should support a double-tap to zoom feature I will for sure use it over the android one. I absolutely dont like those 2 zooming buttons floating all over the content which only appear once I start scrolling.
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Well, if Opera 10 should support a double-tap to zoom feature I will for sure use it over the android one. I absolutely dont like those 2 zooming buttons floating all over the content which only appear once I start scrolling.
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Sorry not to get ot, but we took care of the stock browser a long time ago, check it out: WWW.forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551119
To the op, this does look like it might be pretty nice, how ever always been happy with the modded stock, or a hero browser. Any idea on what phone is gonna have this as oem firest?
Opera 10 for android looks amazing. if you watch the video preview of it. Right now the best browser for android is the Dolphin Browser though. .. ooh and windows mobile people.. Skyfire is the only way to go.
Which video are you referring to?
Maybe I am not really getting it but what advantage does Opera Mobile have over the Android browser? I loved Opera on my WM device and I can understand using it based on preference. However, with the Android browser working the way it does, isn't it a bit redundant? Or again maybe I am not getting it?
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Which video are you referring to?
Maybe I am not really getting it but what advantage does Opera Mobile have over the Android browser? I loved Opera on my WM device and I can understand using it based on preference. However, with the Android browser working the way it does, isn't it a bit redundant? Or again maybe I am not getting it?
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The browser has better support for CSS/HTML/JavaScript...
You can see the differences between the browsers on:
http://www.quirksmode.org/m/css.html
and
http://www.quirksmode.org/m/table.html
Please note that the Nokia E66 browser matches the new Opera 10 beta the most. The other version is 9.5 which is already a year old. I'm really waiting for a Opera 10 release on android, since the android browser has some shortcomings when you want to create mobile websites (I shall spare you the details).
I guess I will have to try it out when it comes outs to see the differences. It's to bad they don't add the proxy features of Opera Mini on Mobile.
is it out yet?! :[
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Which video are you referring to?
Maybe I am not really getting it but what advantage does Opera Mobile have over the Android browser? I loved Opera on my WM device and I can understand using it based on preference. However, with the Android browser working the way it does, isn't it a bit redundant? Or again maybe I am not getting it?
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its the speed!!! look do this
go to the market and download the current opera mini 4.2
once installed get a timer or something and go to any website(including this one if you want, just make sure you go to exactly the same page)
time it
now go to the same page with the android browser.
you should see a HUGE speed difference. im not exactly sure how opera does this, but i heard once it has something to do with a compression method that opera uses that makes pages load very quickly!
all in all, i have no idea how opera does it, i just know that its FAST. and definitely faster than the android browser. i really dont care that its opera i just care abuot that speeeeeed!
Yes, I agree about Opera Mini, but I am referring to Opera Mobile.
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Yes, I agree about Opera Mini, but I am referring to Opera Mobile.
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well supposedly also opera mini is made for any mobile phone? i think. but opera mobile is made spcifically for more advanced smartphones. like you cant use opera mobile on some cheapy flip phone. but you probably could use opera mini on it. i THINK. im probably wrong or idk i dont really care i just want a better browser than the slow android one. either that or the faster 3g from tmobile.. but i think even then the browser would still be slow..
Having tried alot of different browsers through the span of my cell phones I believe Opera Mini is the fastest but it may have to do with the mobile view of the websites.
Dolphin is also very good.. I like that its theme able and its relatively fast.
I'm also anxious in the official release of Opera Mobile 10... it will have other features and will be most likely fix the problem of opera mini loading pages as mobile and not full version as in a desktop or laptop would display.
Hi, what is the best app (performance and compatibility) for browsing the internet "on the TG01"?
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Hi, what is the best app (performance and compatibility) for browsing the internet "on the TG01"?
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Well I've tested a few and it's gotta be Opera 10. It does everything flash wise (well as far as flash goes on phones), but the thing which annoys me is the way you can't get word suggestions on it so it kinda sucks in that way so it's not the perfect app for me, but the only one that does everything else.
Skyfire is good, but can't seem to get reliable flash support in my opinion.
Btw, does your question include the running of java applets?
Are you sure about word suggestions? I had the same problem with my first Opera 10 browser, because I had to use their keyboard ... but I installed the newest version, and now I was able to use my own keyboards ... running WM6.1
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Are you sure about word suggestions? I had the same problem with my first Opera 10 browser, because I had to use their keyboard ... but I installed the newest version, and now I was able to use my own keyboards ... running WM6.1
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I'm positive. If I use IE, everything is fine, I can get word prediction suggestions and also can press enter instead of having to click search eg.
in google, but in opera 10, nothing, no word prediction suggestions and no hotkey support like enter. Any (word) suggestions? Would really appreciate it as I love Opera and I use it as my primary browser. Because of this problem, I'm thinking of changing to another browser such as skyfire, but would prefer opera though.
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Hi, what is the best app (performance and compatibility) for browsing the internet "on the TG01"?
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NETRFRONT browser
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I'm positive. If I use IE, everything is fine, I can get word prediction suggestions and also can press enter instead of having to click search eg.
in google, but in opera 10, nothing, no word prediction suggestions and no hotkey support like enter. Any (word) suggestions? Would really appreciate it as I love Opera and I use it as my primary browser. Because of this problem, I'm thinking of changing to another browser such as skyfire, but would prefer opera though.
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Hmm I will try it and report - word suggestion is working on my htc x7500 with opera 10 - I have my tg01 just for 1 day, will try it later
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i would say ninja duck opera 10
Ninja Duck Opera 10 mobile w/ Flash Lite
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i would say ninja duck opera 10
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I personally use Ninja Duck Opera 10 mobile w/ Flash Lite baked in.
Cheers,
fitzy-boy
I use HTC Build Opera Mobile 9.7
Very battery friendly, uses less RAM. And imho faster than Opera 10.
It integrates with other HTC apps, i.e - youtube,
for EDGE, use Opera Mini
I have the Net Front Browser 2009 from a Japanese T-01A if you want it.
No .cab, just copy the files to your Windows folder.
No flash but it's extremely fast, good quality and very easy on the battery.
All menus display in English if on an English rom.
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I have the Net Front Browser 2009 from a Japanese T-01A if you want it.
No .cab, just copy the files to your Windows folder.
No flash but it's extremely fast, good quality and very easy on the battery.
All menus display in English if on an English rom.
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Opera Mobile 10 would be my recommendation
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Opera Mobile 10 would be my recommendation
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its a shame opera didnt release opera mobile 11 for WM. i got it on my tab, and its much better than opera 10 - so many new improvements. A real shame its not for WM
http://rapidshare.com/files/458372874/NFB.rar
It is the NFB35EN-WMPRO-R320TS
See here for instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016616&page=2