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Opera Mini 4.1 released!! You can save files & webpages among other things now!!

You just gotta give it a try! http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=228137&t=1207135984&page=1#comment2503516
It works extremely good with latest Jbed on my HTC S710, make sure you install the version with all the certificates... You can now save webpages, download files directly within the browser (now Opera Mini doesn't have to launch a separate one for downloading!), you can also find text in pages among other improvements.
One of the best mobile browsers just got better, I'm completely amazed by it!

Link direct to beta...http://www.operamini.com/beta/

Is this better than the Opera 9.5 beta?

looks good, but still the same bug that if you entered text, the progress bar is hidden bhind the pocket pc footer bar

donutman said:
Is this better than the Opera 9.5 beta?
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nah man this wouldnt be 9.5 opera mini and opera for pocket pc are diffrent

great step in the right direction but i hate having to go to the enter text screen. they made it so the address bar dosnt have to do that any more why cant they do it for the rest of it?

Also read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382245

NetFront Browser v3.5 Concept Version

Hi Guys!
Has anyone of you already tested the new NetFront Browser v3.5?
I just downloaded and played around with it a little while and I must admit it's as good as Opera 9.5.
In fact I think it's a little bit better because it works cleaner. It doesn't fill the memory of the Universal in the way as Opera does.
So please try out and post your experiences.
Thanx

Yes, i've tried it too, in my opinion NetFront is much better then Opera, works very fast and with no lag. Other good think is, that it works also from SD card

Yes you're right man
After a long intensive use of Opera I mostly had to reboot my Uni.
And the NetFront is much better adjustable, I think.

i been using Netfront 3.5 form the week it come out and i love it, it's faster and better than Opera 9.5, PIE 6.1, Picsel 1.2 or any other browser i've used. Obviouly it's my default browser, and it's just awsome.

It takes longer than IE to load and uses more memory, but...
It renders *A LOT* better and is much faster and less processor hungry
I'd strongly recommend it if you are doing any web browsing

Can someone post a link?
I am willing to try it, but where?
Gracias

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I am willing to try it, but where?
Gracias
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Hi orb3000,
Here's the link for the download:
http://www.access-company.com/products/mobile_solutions/netfrontmobile/browser/35_wm_tp.html
Cheers

Just been trying this one myself, having used earlier versions of NetFront pretty extensively in the past.
Certainly no where near as fast to load as Opera Mobile 9.5 Beta, but I do think it is faster than PIE (maybe about the same as Opera Mobile 8.65). The upside for me is that it seems to be far more stable than any of the leaked/hacked versions of the Opera Mobile currently around. The downside, and it is a pretty big one for my usage, is that it can only download one file at a time and while it is downloading you cannot even continue surfing. I use my browser quite a lot for downloading mp3s and music clips and this is a big handicap.

LifeIsAnUpgrade said:
Hi orb3000,
Here's the link for the download:
http://www.access-company.com/products/mobile_solutions/netfrontmobile/browser/35_wm_tp.html
Cheers
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Thanks LifeIsAnUpgrade, but I don´t know what is happening, when I click on download cab file, simply does not download nothing.
Do you have another link or mirror?
Gracias!

Well - I have the opposite experience.
I was using the 'older' NetFront 3.5 for *ages* before Opera 9.5 Betas started to arrive, and at first found Opera 9.5 unusable.
But - the latter builds - 1006 & 1123 - have both been great.
I tried switching back to NetFront when the new version came out (and posted in General ), but was continually having "not enough memory" errors from NetFront. I just don't get that from Opera.
So - for me at least, Opera 9.5 1123 is the one for the moment.
-PJC

Here is rapidshare link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/90687618/NFB35EN_WMPRO_R006CV.cab
Enjoy

Win_XP said:
Here is rapidshare link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/90687618/NFB35EN_WMPRO_R006CV.cab
Enjoy
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Actually, that's the old version, which expires at the end of this month.
Here's the new version, even though I prefer Opera
http://rapidshare.com/files/118357056/NFB35EN_WMPRO_R007CV.CAB.html
This one expires at the end of August.
-PJC

Thanks for the correction man, btw there is no smartphone version right?

I got that from their website, and as far as I know it's the only available version.
Who knows what they're going to do once they actually release the damn thing!
-PJC

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Thanks for the correction man, btw there is no smartphone version right?
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I tried to install the latest version to the smartphone emulator and it starts and look corrupt. Does look OK when placed in fullscreen mode, though (softkeys and menus are usable).
Didn't seem to be able to browse the internet, though it may well be an emulator issue with my local network config.

I like this but I get too many certificate and DNS errors popping up, so much so that I have to use Opera Mobile 9 instead as - much as it is prone to being unstable - it does at least work properly.

Skyfire or opera mobile

This is my question
IS THE LATEST SKYFIRE FASTER,BETTER,SEXIER(lol) THAN THE LATEST OPERA MOBILE!!!!??????

bstylz911 said:
This is my question
IS THE LATEST SKYFIRE FASTER,BETTER,SEXIER(lol) THAN THE LATEST OPERA MOBILE!!!!??????
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Not for me
I´m with Opera!!

orb3000 said:
Not for me
I´m with Opera!!
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WHY??
skyfires startup time BEATS operas hands down
PLUS skyfire allows u to watch flash video and is flash enabled
unlike the newest opera which doesnt even support flash

Skyfire is QVGA, and looks quite bad on VGA. However, I haven't tried Opera Mini on VGA - can anyone comment?

bstylz911 said:
WHY??
skyfires startup time BEATS operas hands down
PLUS skyfire allows u to watch flash video and is flash enabled
unlike the newest opera which doesnt even support flash
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Agreed. Also SkyFire's browsing & scrolling is absolutely far superior to Opera. The only thing SkyFire is missing is options - it only as about 6, while Opera has about 600. But it's only 1.0, those things will eventually make their way into the browser.

Skyfire for me is faster than opera mobile, and i use it for flash videos.
The only laggy thing i think is the scrolling, that in Opera is better.
However if you don't need to see flash content...skyfire is useless, i use UCWEB of NetFront

You should see Skyfire on HD ^^' Opera Mobile is better but no flash...
D'rath

D'rath said:
You should see Skyfire on HD ^^' Opera Mobile is better but no flash...
D'rath
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I want to try it out too. He he he... But from the supports page on their website it says it supports WVGA as well.
Are they telling us fibs. Can you post any screen shots of what it looks like on your HD?
Love to see flash videos (not just You Tube) on my WinMo.

well i did a test on both skyfire and opera on the loading times
skyfire took 14 sec. to load 1src.com
and opera only 10 sec. to load 1src.com
anyone else wanna test?

Opera Mobile, Opera Mini, Skyfire, Mach5, PIE
I have posted something similar somewhere else, however I think this is valid...
We have two different types of browser available
Client side (which means your browser on you PPC/HTC does all the work) or Server side (which means a fast computer somewhere does all the work and sends your PPC pictures of what is happening)
Client Side positives
You decide settings
You install all your favourite add-ons (flash etc)
You keep all you log-on settings
The rendering and compatability is what you install/set (also could be a negative if you aren't competent here)
Server Side positives
Your PPC doesn't need to install anything extra (flash etc), as it's all done on server side
All rendering is done by Server side, so it's simply plug n' play!!
And the negatives (which usually make the choice on such small devices as PPC)
Client Side
Usually takes up memory to install all plug-ins required to visit different sited on the web (eg, flash) (i.e, the more you have installed your PPC, the more compatible it will be with more web sites/pages)
Slows the computer, and takes up memory to render the page (everything needs to be downloaded and processed)
Server Side
You're at the hands of the server (is it set up for QVGA/VGA, how does it input text etc)
The fastest it works is by sending you pictures (whereas you may have a dedicated flash player, such as TCPMP etc)
Your log-on settings are kept by the server (someone else)
The rendering is only as good as the server
The server may be in a different locale to you
The connection takes the bottle-neck (i.e, the faster your connection, the better videos will be - you really need a contract/cost limit on your data downloads!)
So as for Skyfire is "Server Side". Skyfire renders as QVGA (even though it does work on VGA, it doesn't look any good).
Opera is Client Side. This means it really can't really be compared to Skyfire in the same way as, say, Mach5 could... but could be compared to PIE.
However, Opera Mini is Server Side - and I think there's some great advances are now there. Anyone comment on Opera Mini compared to Skyfire?

However, Opera Mini is Server Side - and I think there's some great advances are now there. Anyone comment on Opera Mini compared to Skyfire?
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i have to say that opera mini is truly fast but i ALSO LOVE BOLT and UCWEB
BOLT- best feature is the split screen. good for large pages
UCWEB- has features like multiple tabs

Opera for me,...Skyfire looks terrible on my hd and is slow as heck,....+ I watch porn on my laptop as it has a bigger screen ;-)

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+ I watch porn on my laptop as it has a bigger screen ;-)
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lol i was gonna say the extacly same thing but i was like naw lol
i tried watchin it on skyfire and the load time was really quick

bstylz911 said:
lol i was gonna say the extacly same thing but i was like naw lol
i tried watchin it on skyfire and the load time was really quick
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LOL, Ive tried skyfire a few times (different builds) but have never been impressed with it. It worked well on my n96 (about the only thing that did)

cocoaju said:
I want to try it out too. He he he... But from the supports page on their website it says it supports WVGA as well.
Are they telling us fibs. Can you post any screen shots of what it looks like on your HD?
Love to see flash videos (not just You Tube) on my WinMo.
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Screens in *.png aren't mine (I cannot make shoots of my Display) but you could see page rendering output.
On HD Skyfire is horrible... I use IE with flash: it's slow, few optimized but make similar PC...
D'rath

D'rath said:
Screens in *.png aren't mine (I cannot make shoots of my Display) but you could see page rendering output.
On HD Skyfire is horrible... I use IE with flash: it's slow, few optimized but make similar PC...
D'rath
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Thanks mate. Wow! That is fxxking ugly man! Not going to touch that with barge pole. Saves from downloading it.
I guess I have to wait till IE6 comes out. Maybe that will be better contender?

HD
On my Touch HD i prefer Opera. I only use Skyfire for flash based sites. Even for YouTube i prefer the specific application rather than Skyfire. May be my comments are not so scientific but i feel Opera more smooth and nice looking overall.

Exellent explanation -Jonny-!!!

i could see sticking with skyfire if it wasn't so stupid
skyfire.com hosts all your bookmarks and history
wtf?!?!
having to load a browser page just to see my bookmarks
it takes forever...huge fail
flash is nice...but absolutely ZERO speedtest pages load
i must have tried about 20 on google search for speed tests - all failed with 404
other than that
opera mini - no text selection...and no flash...7mbps+
opera beta - no flash - navigating the zoom frustrates me often (turbo is fast)
i'm on a htc 6800 (mogul/titan)
having more than one browser installed is such a waste of resources
i wish someone could make something that simply works...
you would think a mobile browser would be something basic & simple
i just cant see why its so complicated...but i'm not a programmer
its obvious what everyone wants but each browser only has a few qualities
i find myself using ie more...an option you can always go back to with minimal letdowns
at least its problems i can deal with and dont make me want to hurl my brick phone into a deep river along with my body tied to it
i will keep trying new browsers i havent yet though i'm not expecting much:
ucweb
bolt
mach5
pie (what is pie i've heard it mentioned but cant find any info)
any info on these browsers appreciated if anything is not obvious like basic installation or source for program.

just wanted to bump this page

Is Opera really better than IE mobile 6?

Everyone seems to rave about Opera, but in my experience there are a number of sites that it doesn't work with properly, which IE 6 copes with fine. OK so IE doesn't have pinch to zoom but it's easier to double-tap anyway.
What do others think and is there an easy way to make IE my default browser?

wtf?! what opera are you using!?
the opera mobil 10 is brilliant and gets 100/100 in acid3. IE does not even start....
i dont know but ie is a piece of **** compared to the opera browser, on ANY website!!!!

brandi said:
i dont know
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Got that part right! Who cares about acid test, unless that is the only site you browse that is...
To download google maps you need to use IE for example. And many sites (such as BBC low graphics) render better in IE. I do use Opera beta 10.2 on a daily basis but it does have its annoyances (put it in mobile view and watch your text run off the screen, but put it in desktop view and the text magically wraps correctly!) as does IE. Neither one works best for all sites.
Oh, and for Christ's sake, Opera can't manage bookmarks! My IE bookmarks sync perfectly to my PC and to MyPhone, that is until Opera starts to eat them...every time I flash I now have to add my bookmarks all over again (or paste back the file from Opera) instead of them syncing as they should.

Moandal said:
Everyone seems to rave about Opera, but in my experience there are a number of sites that it doesn't work with properly, which IE 6 copes with fine. OK so IE doesn't have pinch to zoom but it's easier to double-tap anyway.
What do others think and is there an easy way to make IE my default browser?
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Just go into options and set it as your default, should work fine (not testing it for you but I remember it working). If it doesn't work for the Sense page just turn that page off and put an IE icon in your quicklinks on your home page.

Skyfire
I have to admit, I prefer Skyfire myself.
Seems to work nice in things like BBC Iplayer, tvcatchup etc.
Works fine on flash 10.
Only thing I would like is pinch to zoom rather than double tap, but it seems nice and quick for me.

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Got that part right! Who cares about acid test, unless that is the only site you browse that is...
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Why shout so lound when you don't know what you are talking about.
Do you even know what that test does? Opera Mobiles web performance is outstanding, and the rendering is so much better then in the stupid buggy IE...
Show me 1 website it cannot show correctly, but the IE can, and btw, I downloaded gmaps with my opera....

brandi said:
i dont know but ie is a piece of **** compared to the opera browser, on ANY website!!!!
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Errrrrrmm if you can show me Opera 10 running flash videos on the bbc news website I will acept this comment,
BUT until then IE is still the best browser for watching flash video compared to opera.

Aside from decent flash support Opera is nice and fast, but it does crash a lot IME.

Stupid discussion. That's why you can have SEVERAL browsers on WinMo I use Opera for most sites and IE for flash content. Opera runs from Sense and IE from a shortcut on the home screen. And...yes, I also have Skyfire just in case on my HD2

i dont see any FREE app from microsoft is daily useable, MS give us all poor tools with 50% power, ex: office, note, IE, photo viewer, WMP, calculator... look like they stop the develop of MS Voice command
about browser, MS have a browser call Deepfish, but they kill it already.

SO what, no browser really plays flash!
Skyfire does a good job on it, but the experiance is still not really good!
And IE does not even show all image formats...

Opera 10 is much more usable in all view modes. IE6 in mobile view mode doesn't wrap pages as it should, so gets a 1/10 from me.

brandi said:
SO what, no browser really plays flash!
Skyfire does a good job on it, but the experiance is still not really good!
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I beg to differ, in IE on the bbc site I can hold down and enable full screen flash and it plays perfectly in landscape too. Skyfire is too fidly to get it to fill the whole screen but I use it for tvcatchup.com
Although for other sites I use Opera 10.

[Q] Dolphin HD 5.0 beta2

New version out, not sure if this is the tablet optimized version but it runs realy well on the TF
sent from my LEE Pad Transformer........I wish

combat goofwing said:
New version out, not sure if this is the tablet optimized version but it runs realy well on the TF
sent from my LEE Pad Transformer........I wish
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cant find it anywhere. mind posting a link

OP must be smoking something. The latest beta is 5.0b2:
http://blog.dolphin-browser.com/

i downloaded it, doesnt do smoother scrolling than Default browser though. hopefully they can manage to get super smooth scrolling in final product

You have to take a look at the Opera Mobile Browser.
It scrolls super fast on Xda and has a really nice UI. Unfortunately it doesnt support Flash for Tablets yet... But I guess there will be an update soon

The problem with Opera is that it is proxy-based. Meaning that what you're actually getting is a pre-rendered site off Opera's own servers. This limits a lot of functionality especially with Javascripting.
I personally prefer HC's own brower simply due to Chrome bookmark syncing.

akarol said:
The problem with Opera is that it is proxy-based. Meaning that what you're actually getting is a pre-rendered site off Opera's own servers. This limits a lot of functionality especially with Javascripting.
I personally prefer HC's own brower simply due to Chrome bookmark syncing.
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You're thinking of opera mini. Opera mobile can also do this if you have turbo enabled in the the browser settings. Also, flash does work in Opera mobile. You can set it to on demand just like the stock browser. The main thing about oepra mobile that I don't like is the tabbing system. It works fine for small screens, but for a tablet, I wish it would do tabs like the stock browser.

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You're thinking of opera mini. Opera mobile can also do this if you have turbo enabled in the the browser settings. Also, flash does work in Opera mobile. You can set it to on demand just like the stock browser. The main thing about oepra mobile that I don't like is the tabbing system. It works fine for small screens, but for a tablet, I wish it would do tabs like the stock browser.
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+1 to both of your points

Hmmm... interesting... are you sure? Try opening using google images on your opera mini and then on Dolphin or stock browser. See the diference? Or even just searching something on google period. Do you get the drop down recommendations as you're typing?

akarol said:
Hmmm... interesting... are you sure? Try opening using google images on your opera mini and then on Dolphin or stock browser. See the diference? Or even just searching something on google period. Do you get the drop down recommendations as you're typing?
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Again, Opera Mini != Opera Mobile. Those are two different apps. Opera Mobile is the full featured browser, and Opera Mini is the one that opera sends compressed pages to make the browser go faster. Opera Mobile is a full featured browser that is compatible with flash, and also has turbo mode where it can act like mini.
EDIT: Links. Notice the size difference between the two <1mb vs 13mb. I think the tablet one is even 20mb
Opera Mini
Opera Mobile

How come javascripting isn't running on my Google Images page? Or showing drop down menus when searching with Google, etc on Opera Mobile?

akarol said:
How come javascripting isn't running on my Google Images page? Or showing drop down menus when searching with Google, etc on Opera Mobile?
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Are you using mini or mobile? If you are using mobile, do you have turbo enabled in the settings?

akarol said:
OP must be smoking something. The latest beta is 5.0b2:
http://blog.dolphin-browser.com/
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Silly me, they are supposed to have a HC optimized version of dolphin very soon think this is just a new version of the phone browser.That said it works well
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I don't have Turbo enabled. Will that fix that?

wow.opera mobile is so much better and faster then any other browsers ive tried, i cant get flash to work though.

Its not available for tablets But I guess they will update the version pretty soon.

Gunner86 said:
wow.opera mobile is so much better and faster then any other browsers ive tried, i cant get flash to work though.
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May thats why Opera is faster then others cause theres no flash....

dazz87 said:
May thats why Opera is faster then others cause theres no flash....
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Flash works fine on mine. Has option for off/on or click to use flash.

akarol said:
I don't have Turbo enabled. Will that fix that?
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Yeah, you don't want turbo enabled. Maybe you're just on a mobile version of these sites. The google auto complete works fine on mine. Also, flash works fine too. Flash settings are under advanced. If it is set to click to play, there should be a gray play icon when there is some flash on the site.
One thing you can do to get it to always show desktop versions of sites is type opera:config in the url and click enter. Then go to user prefs, and put "Opera/9.80 (Linux; en) Presto/2.7.81 Version/11.00" (without the quotes) in the custom user agent box, and click save.

Has the adblock addon EVER worked for Dolphin??
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