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Don't know which section to post this really, but here goes...
I got a mini XDA on o2 (UK)
I want to upgrade the operating system from 5 to 6, but all o2 shops don't wanna know.
14 months old so out of warranty.
Can someone help, or explain in plain English how to go about this?
Be careful, I have only just worked out how to operate my pop-up toaster......
Rob
Basically you need to read the topics on this forum and fully understand them before you even think of doing something to your xda..
First you need to figure out whether you have a G3 or G4 model, you can find out here
If you have a G4 then you're not in deep ****, but it might be a little difficult..
After that, here's a good tutorial on flashing: clickie
If you don't have a clue about anything in these topics, it'd be best to find someone who can, otherwise you'll probably end up with a bricked phone.
Good luck!
Read, read, read. You should know what you do before doing anything (or you may change your Wizard into an expensive paperweight).
Though when you learn it, it is quite easy. I have CID locked G4 and I changed ROM many times using shelltools (less elegant than SoftSPL/HardSPL solutions, but more safer).
Mirek
LOL !
C'mon , guys don't just scare him like this
We all have come here as noobies,but have gone through and learned alot.
Hey ! It's not a big deal,if 100/1000 have done it,so can you,just read all the stickies on unlocking and upgrading carefully a couple of times,let it all sink in and when comfortable ,GO for it.
Once again I advise you,Just READ the Stickies only,don't read the whole forum,it'll make you confused,ok
Good luck
Anyone know of where I can get this done in the UK?
Rob
what is Kaiser rom? is it Kaiser Operating System? what benefit will i receive if i change or upgrade my original AT&T kaiser Rom. thank you. once again. please don't be offended, i am a newbie, i have already tried find threads for explaining this basic thing, but i unable to find it, please some expert take 1 minute or so explain to me, thanky you
sepig said:
what is Kaiser rom? is it Kaiser Operating System? what benefit will i receive if i change or upgrade my original AT&T kaiser Rom. thank you. once again. please don't be offended, i am a newbie, i have already tried find threads for explaining this basic thing, but i unable to find it, please some expert take 1 minute or so explain to me, thanky you
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i just read some threads , someone said that HTC rom is better than my ATT rom, where can i download this HTC Rom? go to HTC website, they offer on it's official website ? how to upload HTC to my ATT kaiser phone ? thank you.
sepig said:
i just read some threads , someone said that HTC rom is better than my ATT rom, where can i download this HTC Rom? go to HTC website, they offer on it's official website ? how to upload HTC to my ATT kaiser phone ? thank you.
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Read this first.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
And then read the site for a month or so. "What is ROM"? Really???????
sepig said:
i just read some threads , someone said that HTC rom is better than my ATT rom, where can i download this HTC Rom? go to HTC website, they offer on it's official website ? how to upload HTC to my ATT kaiser phone ? thank you.
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Seems to me like you're speed reading the WIKI in the same way people read a cheap book..... don't start at the beginning, read every other chapter then (and I'm waiting for this one) complain that the book was crap because you missed something.
20 minutes after your first post asking what a rom is you're suddenly 'expert' enough to discern that the HTC ROM is better than your ATT one. Well yes - you're probably right but how long will it be before you discover that your radio might not work after your upgrade (another 5 minutes) or that you can screw up without hardSPL (sorry missed that one 'cos it was in chapter 2 and I only read odd numbered chapters on Tuesdays).
Go away and come back when you've learned how to read.
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Seems to me like you're speed reading the WIKI in the same way people read a cheap book..... don't start at the beginning, read every other chapter then (and I'm waiting for this one) complain that the book was crap because you missed something.
20 minutes after your first post asking what a rom is you're suddenly 'expert' enough to discern that the HTC ROM is better than your ATT one. Well yes - you're probably right but how long will it be before you discover that your radio might not work after your upgrade (another 5 minutes) or that you can screw up without hardSPL (sorry missed that one 'cos it was in chapter 2 and I only read odd numbered chapters on Tuesdays).
Go away and come back when you've learned how to read.
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LOL! Very true though.
Sepig. People are going to bash you if you don't spend a lot of time reading the wiki and forums before you post questions because you can seriously screw up your device if you don't. From your post, it will be a while before you can upgrade your phone.
Just go here and install this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Once you've install that CORRECTLY, go here for the official kaiser rom:
http://www.zshare.net/download/45579378780722/
That only took me 2 minutes to do. Wiki is your friend. Remember that!
ericc191 said:
Just go here and install this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Once you've install that CORRECTLY, go here for the official kaiser rom:
http://www.zshare.net/download/45579378780722/
That only took me 2 minutes to do. Wiki is your friend. Remember that!
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Thats very positive attitude, instead of bashing ppl like bunch of 7th graders you actually made an effort to provide exactly what the newbie was looking for... VERY NICE, I LIKEE
I totally understand that this is a very basic question but instead of loading your guns you should just point the person in the right direction like ericc191 here. Just think of yourself when you got your 1st pda phone ever...
Thats just my 2 cents..
cheers
farhanali_ said:
Thats very positive attitude, instead of bashing ppl like bunch of 7th graders you actually made an effort to provide exactly what the newbie was looking for... VERY NICE, I LIKEE
I totally understand that this is a very basic question but instead of loading your guns you should just point the person in the right direction like ericc191 here. Just think of yourself when you got your 1st pda phone ever...
Thats just my 2 cents..
cheers
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yes, true... as newbie we just don't know where to start... BUT don't just read for few lines... then open a new thread to ask question... after few minutes more, find more answer and maybe more question... open another new thread...
allright, everybody is a newbie... but being a smart noobie and {whatever} noobie is different thing... try being smart...
farhanali_ said:
Thats very positive attitude, instead of bashing ppl like bunch of 7th graders you actually made an effort to provide exactly what the newbie was looking for... VERY NICE, I LIKEE
I totally understand that this is a very basic question but instead of loading your guns you should just point the person in the right direction like ericc191 here. Just think of yourself when you got your 1st pda phone ever...
Thats just my 2 cents..
cheers
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Have you considered that I might actually be a 7th grader???
Anyway, a bit harsh maybe - but if people fall over backwards to help others who are too lazy or impatient to help themselves then we'll be as inundated with useless posts as the Hermes forums.
And fyi, I don't normally flame noobs if they've done a bit or real work themselves - instead I normally try to help.
Also fyi, I was mildly flamed as a noob - ONCE only. I went away with my tail between my legs and learned to read - once I could read I learned to write.
In a bizarre way, by flaming noobs you do help - 1. because you bump their post. 2. someone always comes along to help. 3. To get the help they have to read through the scorn at their (sometimes) dumb question or attitude so maybe they research better next time.
Besides the above I'd had a beer and a ****ty day
ach2 said:
Have you considered that I might actually be a 7th grader???
Anyway, a bit harsh maybe - but if people fall over backwards to help others who are too lazy or impatient to help themselves then we'll be as inundated with useless posts as the Hermes forums.
And fyi, I don't normally flame noobs if they've done a bit or real work themselves - instead I normally try to help.
Also fyi, I was mildly flamed as a noob - ONCE only. I went away with my tail between my legs and learned to read - once I could read I learned to write.
In a bizarre way, by flaming noobs you do help - 1. because you bump their post. 2. someone always comes along to help. 3. To get the help they have to read through the scorn at their (sometimes) dumb question or attitude so maybe they research better next time.
Besides the above I'd had a beer and a ****ty day
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And the hard work from these cookers is free anyway (donations that is) so just do your home work first before posting. Is that too much to ask - an intelligent question?
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And the hard work from these cookers is free anyway (donations that is) so just do your home work first before posting. Is that too much to ask - an intelligent question?
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Flaming is a bit pointless if done to someone who, as was obviously the case here, comes with a complete blank and probably doesn't even know what a wiki is and what/where to look first.
On the other hand, it's a perfect opportunity to throw one's wisecracks at the noob and entertain the forum. A bit too easy though, don't you think?
There is a difference between helping or spoiling
tugas2khas said:
yes, true... as newbie we just don't know where to start... BUT don't just read for few lines... then open a new thread to ask question... after few minutes more, find more answer and maybe more question... open another new thread...
allright, everybody is a newbie... but being a smart noobie and {whatever} noobie is different thing... try being smart...
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Totally agree! This forum is not started just a few days ago. There are plenty of info. to solve most problems. Encourage people being lazy is actually not good for them. No need to scold them but just point them to the right place to read. If they don't. Just ignore them. I've been ignored before, but now I am able to cook my own Kaiser ROM.
Spoiling people is not helping.
In fact I would propose there is a black out period like 24hrs to 48hrs that a newbie cannot start any new thread. They may post to ask question but not starting new thread as soon as they register the forum.
Sad but true.
It seems that people are not into reading these days. Such a shame, cause reading makes you intelligent ! *ping*
No but seriously, read the forum starting with the Wiki. After that please remind yourself that you are NOT an IT-geek which makes the whole process probably even more dangerous. After the coscideration that your computerskills utterly -suck- , click cross in the right-upper-corner and have a nice day.
with love!
I see this as a website to go to to find answers.
Similarly to how I would go to Dell.com (or whatever) if I wanted to find a PC to buy to play my latest game I bought.
I don't go reading through the technical manual on how a CPU or GPU works so that I know which one to buy. I look to the people who already have the knowledge to answer the questions I have.
Most of the regular posters on here (I'm guessing) already know a lot about flashing PDAs etc... especially the first guy who flamed the OP. If you don't want to share your knowledge then don't take part in the forum. Yes, there are people who are trying to find an easy way to learn everything that you know and I agree that they should do their research etc... but this guy was abviously wanting a few pointers and got blasted for it. Take it as a compliment that he feels confident in this forum to be able to prvide him with the bit of knowledge he requires to do a flash and then be done. He has never done one before and will never do one again so why does he have to spend weeks reading material that potentially could give him answers that you could write in a line or so?
Please, don't flame the noobs.
I find that more often than not they don't come back.
Look how many times he has replied to this thread since the first guy flamed him... none.
No ill feelings to the original poster, as we were all there one day,
but to see it as a thread headline made me laugh!!! Actually made my day!
No worries, ROM Flashing is easy as hell!!
ojfoggin said:
I see this as a website to go to to find answers.
Similarly to how I would go to Dell.com (or whatever) if I wanted to find a PC to buy to play my latest game I bought.
I don't go reading through the technical manual on how a CPU or GPU works so that I know which one to buy. I look to the people who already have the knowledge to answer the questions I have.
Most of the regular posters on here (I'm guessing) already know a lot about flashing PDAs etc... especially the first guy who flamed the OP. If you don't want to share your knowledge then don't take part in the forum. Yes, there are people who are trying to find an easy way to learn everything that you know and I agree that they should do their research etc... but this guy was abviously wanting a few pointers and got blasted for it. Take it as a compliment that he feels confident in this forum to be able to prvide him with the bit of knowledge he requires to do a flash and then be done. He has never done one before and will never do one again so why does he have to spend weeks reading material that potentially could give him answers that you could write in a line or so?
Please, don't flame the noobs.
I find that more often than not they don't come back.
Look how many times he has replied to this thread since the first guy flamed him... none.
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Nobody get paid in this forum. You pay Dell for their machine so you may and should entitle some service. If you get some free service AND some free spanking in this forum, that is life, no flesh does not come with blood. Even experienced one may get spanked once a while by asking non-sense question. No need to be too thin-skin.
You may also be the lucky ones who has plenty of money and being pampered and like the noobs who like to ask million dollar question like "Which is the best ROM in this forum?" or "How do I flash my ROM step_by_step with guaranteed no risk?" or "Where do I get free SIM unlock service?" and expect an answer right away.
Many people paid to have their machine unlocked. Getting knowledgeable advice from someone is a service and entitled to get compensation for. Talk to a lawyer for advice, you will fully appreciate all the good folks in this forum and they are the one needed to be pampered and not the noobs.
One will learn and learn by reading this forum. It is more like drugs to me now.
He hasn't replied, that is good, that means he is doing reading and reading and reading..... If he is not, why he want to risk his $600 machine and ended up blaming everyone in this forum for not helping him or prevent him from doing that.
I don't think he was flamed by the #2 or #3 or # .... He is being educated! He is benefiting by this experience! The machine that's saved maybe his!
Please note there is a note in this forum which says:
Reading this Forum (Wiki) may be hazardous to your health!
Hey, I think it may also be hazardous to your family life, your love life, and/or your current job! Not just your machine!
Lets get a bit real here...
The name of this site is XDA-Developers. There is a bit of a clue in the title as to a certain amount of pre-knowledge. This guy asked what a ROM is - he could have got his answer from dictionary.com but instead decided to go to a group of people who are (or were) efectively researching on the forefront of the XDA pda's.
Most noobs (me included) have a lot of experience of computers but at first they don't have any idea of how to translate this into WM5 or WM6. But they learn quick because they already have the pre-knowledge to enter a developers site. This question was nothing like that and there is a greater than 90% chance that we'll be fending off the 'what is the best rom', 'how do I insert the stylus', 'how do you spell brick' type of questions unless he is discouraged from proceeding without some serious reading.
I know there are nice and nasty ways to tell someone what to do, but my experience of these forums is that people who don't read will not read the 'help granny cross the road' style of advice - but they do tend to get the point when flamed a bit (and it could have been worse).
Anyway, I hope he's gone away - keeps reading and then comes back a bit better prepared. And lets face it - anyone can flash a Rom, but not everyone can recover from a bad flash - and bad flashes is what we want to prevent at any cost.
farhanali_ said:
Thats very positive attitude, instead of bashing ppl like bunch of 7th graders you actually made an effort to provide exactly what the newbie was looking for... VERY NICE, I LIKEE
I totally understand that this is a very basic question but instead of loading your guns you should just point the person in the right direction like ericc191 here. Just think of yourself when you got your 1st pda phone ever...
Thats just my 2 cents..
cheers
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Actually, I bricked my first PDA phone on the second day... That's when I found this forum However I managed to unbrick it. Somehow. Can't remember the how.
Ok so I read through some threads and you guys are all a million steps ahead of me..I would like a simple guide on how to put custom roms/modifing the phone..where to get apps for the phone..etc..remember im still learning here lol
by the way im using the Att Tilt on the rogers network..if that means anything lol
just do some reading... there is more literature in these forums than you would probably care to read. Use the search feature to find items related to what you are looking for. Additionally, read the Wiki for Kaiser. It will basically answer most of the questions you'll have.
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I agree with you. i have read lot of this and i am still lost.
I also would like to know if you can connect a tilt through your pc to the internet using a wireless broad band connection over bluetooth.
thanks a lot i shall take a look at the wiki
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Ok so I read through some threads and you guys are all a million steps ahead of me..I would like a simple guide on how to put custom roms/modifing the phone..where to get apps for the phone..etc..remember im still learning here lol
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All you need is in this Wiki, and specificaly you need to look under "Hacks and Tweaks"
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
By all means read the Wiki. Read the Sticky post at the top of the posts listing.
But, I would not recommend anyone that is still at the stage of getting to know the phone and learning how to install programmes, to be thinking about flashing a new ROM.
I suggest you spend sometime in the regular Kaiser Forum, getting to know what the Kaiser can do/not do and absorbing information. Flashing can go seriously wrong if you do not have a clear view of what to do and in what sequence. The single sticky post in this forum would be your starting point when you have built confidence.(in particular the link to the ROM Flashing FAQ for Noobies.)
Mike
I agree with Mike....get to know the phone and then start small....ie.programs...new theme...etc......then try some of the bigger stuff.
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By all means read the Wiki. Read the Sticky post at the top of the posts listing.
But, I would not recommend anyone that is still at the stage of getting to know the phone and learning how to install programmes, to be thinking about flashing a new ROM.
I suggest you spend sometime in the regular Kaiser Forum, getting to know what the Kaiser can do/not do and absorbing information. Flashing can go seriously wrong if you do not have a clear view of what to do and in what sequence. The single sticky post in this forum would be your starting point when you have built confidence.(in particular the link to the ROM Flashing FAQ for Noobies.)
Mike
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Agreed with Mike, and (although I'm not on as much anymore) PLEASE READ THE TILT SPECIFIC WIKI!!!
It took a while to compile and was made specifically for new user such as yourself. Cheers.
Sorry for asking but everyone is a newbeeeee sometime, right
I just found this site and I really want to upgrade my HTC TyTn II with WM 6.1.
I understand that on this site aloooooot of people are writing there own application and changing the org. RAM etc etc.
I wounder WHAT RAM I should install, the official Microsoft 6.1 or...
Where to looooooook ?
Pleazzzz have faith and once more, I'm a beginner
since you are new....1st thing to do before asking a question is use the forum search function and/or go to the wiki page for your device most of your questions if not all can be answered by doing those two things...
I'm going to give you the best piece of advice I can. Don't forget the name GSLEON3. I have a feeling you might need him in the near future.
i would take the last one that came out... and everytime a new one is available -> flash it.
other possibility: start with the wiki.
Well, you won't be changing ANY RAM for years bud. No offense, but that would take a lot of address work to alter the ram alotment.
You're best friend is the wiki, & the second post on the page called Start Here.
Now I don't expect to see another question for at least 5 days to a week, becuase if you are that new, you've got a bit of reading to do.
Start with the basics & learn about roms, radios, & basic tools that make flashing & cooking possible.
DO NOT PLAY WITH THINGS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. If you're not comfortable with a process or don't understand it, DON'T DO IT! Just like anything else, you're actions will have consequences, some are good some can be devastating. So start here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
Then go to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
After reading all of the info there, then you can start asking questions for clarification without being royally flamed.
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i would take the last one that came out... and everytime a new one is available -> flash it.
other possibility: start with the wiki.
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Ohh, & one last though, never trust a solution that is just flash it!
Red, read, read, understand...Then HardSPL before you even think of flashing anything.
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I thought that was clear.
OK here we goooiiiiinnnng to reeeeead and reeeeeeaaad an.......
Godnight & over and out
I learned everything I needed to know from here. Everything is extensive. With a little dedication and a little geekism, you'll figure it out
My RAM doesn't fit!!!!
I'm so sorry that I didn't get to chime in earlier but I was changing the RAM on my Tilt and totally screwed up trying to fit my Laptop RAM into my phone. I couldn't find the Wiki on how to fix it. Can I tether it using Active Sync?
Hi Everyone, yes I've been sandbagging for the last few weeks or so since I picked up my Kaiser. I've noticed the high levels of frustration with noobs asking questions before searching and also noticed people like Gwen who have had major success off their own bat (congrats Gwen).
I have a question to pose to the elders )) ... I am relatively technically savvy but really only as an end user and part time tweaker. I am keen to try Dutty's 6.1 Rom but when I start reading about Rom flashing/cooking etc I get hopelessly lost in the details.
To get to the point, my suggestion is, would it be helpful and probably reduce a lot of clutter in the regular channels if there was a dedicated channel where noobs could hangout and ask potentially silly questions without fear of annoying ppl and where 'experts' and more experienced noobs could drop in to answer when they have time.
My example is this.. I have scoured the boards and found several how-to's on flashing including the very helpful Rom Flashing Wiki thread. But I still find myself with a question without an obvious (to me) answer. I bought my Kaiser outright (in Australia), do I still need to do the step to remove the CID using Hard SPL before kickin off the update???? If I don't will I brick my phone? Perfect question for a noob channel.
Sorry for the lengthy virgin post, thought I might try and help while asking for help. Thanks for your time.
Cheers.
well am a mid noob not an expert but can tell u that u need to use the kaiser unlocker to do the SPL and unlock the radio aswell, there is no other way to upgrade unless u SPL first.
"u only have to SPL if using unofficial roms and official roms from other operators like at&t..etc"
hope am right though but that's what i gathered from wiki
hmmm
i know that we are all virgins at the beginning but.....
if you cant understand what to do after reading all the wikis and all the answers that elders give all the noob questions then you maybe should not start meddling in things that might get your unit to become a paperweight.
all the answers you might have have alredy been aswerd time and time again.
i also have questions from time to time and have found that the search button has served me well.
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i know that we are all virgins at the beginning but.....
if you cant understand what to do after reading all the wikis and all the answers that elders give all the noob questions then you maybe should not start meddling in things that might get your unit to become a paperweight.
all the answers you might have have alredy been aswerd time and time again.
i also have questions from time to time and have found that the search button has served me well.
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Fair call...
@ahassouna - thank you for the reply, appreciate it.