hello all, i read the basics and trying to get my feet wet. for starters i tried setting up a profile with my info but non of my versions are on drop down lists.
i have:
siemens sx66
rom 1.33.10
radio1.02.10 (what does it do to update radio? i search for explanations but no luck)
extrom v. 1.33.110
model ph20b1
should i just enter all this in my signature?
please advise.
In the profile you can only choice from 2 devices its a limmatation of the system, most of us use the signature to pass on that info.
You have a BA and wiki is strong on the BA.
learning slowly
thanks for the response, i thought about that last night and came to that conclusion. i posted a few other things and hopefully in a relevant forum.
i continue to read how to's hopefully something will get through my thick skull.
i was going to try a radio update since it seams i can do the least harm with that one. that ok for tutorial type walk through?
i saw there is a 1.15 available.
i have no personal info on mine yet, just received it.
would it be worth while going to wm 5.0?
i was going to try to stay with 2003 for speed purposes.
thank you again for assistance, have a great day
woody
And remember the Golden Rule:
Always use the search function before asking anything.
And
Always post the links to spam in "trash"
yea, i got the main rules down, but...
that doesn't mean i have enough knowledge to know if i am posting something in the appropriate area. i'm a fairly consciencious user but with as little knowledge as i have it's a dangerous thing.
thank you all again for the help/advice/experience
gonna do my best not to get on anyone's last nerve
have a great day,
woody
Hi Woodalia!
First, welcome to the forum!
Second, don't worry too much, if you post by mistake n the wrong place people will forgive you. Just try not to post same thing in multiple forums.
As for switching form 2003 to WM5 there are a few points to consider:
1. Speed, you already know about. It might be worth waiting for a while I think there will be improvements on the issue in the future.
2. Features such as A2DP, push mail, better office apps. If you don't need those don't bother with the upgrade.
3. ActiveSync, wile you have WM2003 you can sync with versions 3.7 / 3.8 which has sync over wifi option and seems to connect a bit faster then 4.1 (no network search)
I recommend you search the BA forum for people who upgraded and can report any problems / bugs. Every update fixes some issues but creates others.
Good luck.
what is Kaiser rom? is it Kaiser Operating System? what benefit will i receive if i change or upgrade my original AT&T kaiser Rom. thank you. once again. please don't be offended, i am a newbie, i have already tried find threads for explaining this basic thing, but i unable to find it, please some expert take 1 minute or so explain to me, thanky you
sepig said:
what is Kaiser rom? is it Kaiser Operating System? what benefit will i receive if i change or upgrade my original AT&T kaiser Rom. thank you. once again. please don't be offended, i am a newbie, i have already tried find threads for explaining this basic thing, but i unable to find it, please some expert take 1 minute or so explain to me, thanky you
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i just read some threads , someone said that HTC rom is better than my ATT rom, where can i download this HTC Rom? go to HTC website, they offer on it's official website ? how to upload HTC to my ATT kaiser phone ? thank you.
sepig said:
i just read some threads , someone said that HTC rom is better than my ATT rom, where can i download this HTC Rom? go to HTC website, they offer on it's official website ? how to upload HTC to my ATT kaiser phone ? thank you.
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Read this first.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
And then read the site for a month or so. "What is ROM"? Really???????
sepig said:
i just read some threads , someone said that HTC rom is better than my ATT rom, where can i download this HTC Rom? go to HTC website, they offer on it's official website ? how to upload HTC to my ATT kaiser phone ? thank you.
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Seems to me like you're speed reading the WIKI in the same way people read a cheap book..... don't start at the beginning, read every other chapter then (and I'm waiting for this one) complain that the book was crap because you missed something.
20 minutes after your first post asking what a rom is you're suddenly 'expert' enough to discern that the HTC ROM is better than your ATT one. Well yes - you're probably right but how long will it be before you discover that your radio might not work after your upgrade (another 5 minutes) or that you can screw up without hardSPL (sorry missed that one 'cos it was in chapter 2 and I only read odd numbered chapters on Tuesdays).
Go away and come back when you've learned how to read.
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Seems to me like you're speed reading the WIKI in the same way people read a cheap book..... don't start at the beginning, read every other chapter then (and I'm waiting for this one) complain that the book was crap because you missed something.
20 minutes after your first post asking what a rom is you're suddenly 'expert' enough to discern that the HTC ROM is better than your ATT one. Well yes - you're probably right but how long will it be before you discover that your radio might not work after your upgrade (another 5 minutes) or that you can screw up without hardSPL (sorry missed that one 'cos it was in chapter 2 and I only read odd numbered chapters on Tuesdays).
Go away and come back when you've learned how to read.
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LOL! Very true though.
Sepig. People are going to bash you if you don't spend a lot of time reading the wiki and forums before you post questions because you can seriously screw up your device if you don't. From your post, it will be a while before you can upgrade your phone.
Just go here and install this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Once you've install that CORRECTLY, go here for the official kaiser rom:
http://www.zshare.net/download/45579378780722/
That only took me 2 minutes to do. Wiki is your friend. Remember that!
ericc191 said:
Just go here and install this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Once you've install that CORRECTLY, go here for the official kaiser rom:
http://www.zshare.net/download/45579378780722/
That only took me 2 minutes to do. Wiki is your friend. Remember that!
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Thats very positive attitude, instead of bashing ppl like bunch of 7th graders you actually made an effort to provide exactly what the newbie was looking for... VERY NICE, I LIKEE
I totally understand that this is a very basic question but instead of loading your guns you should just point the person in the right direction like ericc191 here. Just think of yourself when you got your 1st pda phone ever...
Thats just my 2 cents..
cheers
farhanali_ said:
Thats very positive attitude, instead of bashing ppl like bunch of 7th graders you actually made an effort to provide exactly what the newbie was looking for... VERY NICE, I LIKEE
I totally understand that this is a very basic question but instead of loading your guns you should just point the person in the right direction like ericc191 here. Just think of yourself when you got your 1st pda phone ever...
Thats just my 2 cents..
cheers
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yes, true... as newbie we just don't know where to start... BUT don't just read for few lines... then open a new thread to ask question... after few minutes more, find more answer and maybe more question... open another new thread...
allright, everybody is a newbie... but being a smart noobie and {whatever} noobie is different thing... try being smart...
farhanali_ said:
Thats very positive attitude, instead of bashing ppl like bunch of 7th graders you actually made an effort to provide exactly what the newbie was looking for... VERY NICE, I LIKEE
I totally understand that this is a very basic question but instead of loading your guns you should just point the person in the right direction like ericc191 here. Just think of yourself when you got your 1st pda phone ever...
Thats just my 2 cents..
cheers
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Have you considered that I might actually be a 7th grader???
Anyway, a bit harsh maybe - but if people fall over backwards to help others who are too lazy or impatient to help themselves then we'll be as inundated with useless posts as the Hermes forums.
And fyi, I don't normally flame noobs if they've done a bit or real work themselves - instead I normally try to help.
Also fyi, I was mildly flamed as a noob - ONCE only. I went away with my tail between my legs and learned to read - once I could read I learned to write.
In a bizarre way, by flaming noobs you do help - 1. because you bump their post. 2. someone always comes along to help. 3. To get the help they have to read through the scorn at their (sometimes) dumb question or attitude so maybe they research better next time.
Besides the above I'd had a beer and a ****ty day
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Have you considered that I might actually be a 7th grader???
Anyway, a bit harsh maybe - but if people fall over backwards to help others who are too lazy or impatient to help themselves then we'll be as inundated with useless posts as the Hermes forums.
And fyi, I don't normally flame noobs if they've done a bit or real work themselves - instead I normally try to help.
Also fyi, I was mildly flamed as a noob - ONCE only. I went away with my tail between my legs and learned to read - once I could read I learned to write.
In a bizarre way, by flaming noobs you do help - 1. because you bump their post. 2. someone always comes along to help. 3. To get the help they have to read through the scorn at their (sometimes) dumb question or attitude so maybe they research better next time.
Besides the above I'd had a beer and a ****ty day
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And the hard work from these cookers is free anyway (donations that is) so just do your home work first before posting. Is that too much to ask - an intelligent question?
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And the hard work from these cookers is free anyway (donations that is) so just do your home work first before posting. Is that too much to ask - an intelligent question?
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Flaming is a bit pointless if done to someone who, as was obviously the case here, comes with a complete blank and probably doesn't even know what a wiki is and what/where to look first.
On the other hand, it's a perfect opportunity to throw one's wisecracks at the noob and entertain the forum. A bit too easy though, don't you think?
There is a difference between helping or spoiling
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yes, true... as newbie we just don't know where to start... BUT don't just read for few lines... then open a new thread to ask question... after few minutes more, find more answer and maybe more question... open another new thread...
allright, everybody is a newbie... but being a smart noobie and {whatever} noobie is different thing... try being smart...
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Totally agree! This forum is not started just a few days ago. There are plenty of info. to solve most problems. Encourage people being lazy is actually not good for them. No need to scold them but just point them to the right place to read. If they don't. Just ignore them. I've been ignored before, but now I am able to cook my own Kaiser ROM.
Spoiling people is not helping.
In fact I would propose there is a black out period like 24hrs to 48hrs that a newbie cannot start any new thread. They may post to ask question but not starting new thread as soon as they register the forum.
Sad but true.
It seems that people are not into reading these days. Such a shame, cause reading makes you intelligent ! *ping*
No but seriously, read the forum starting with the Wiki. After that please remind yourself that you are NOT an IT-geek which makes the whole process probably even more dangerous. After the coscideration that your computerskills utterly -suck- , click cross in the right-upper-corner and have a nice day.
with love!
I see this as a website to go to to find answers.
Similarly to how I would go to Dell.com (or whatever) if I wanted to find a PC to buy to play my latest game I bought.
I don't go reading through the technical manual on how a CPU or GPU works so that I know which one to buy. I look to the people who already have the knowledge to answer the questions I have.
Most of the regular posters on here (I'm guessing) already know a lot about flashing PDAs etc... especially the first guy who flamed the OP. If you don't want to share your knowledge then don't take part in the forum. Yes, there are people who are trying to find an easy way to learn everything that you know and I agree that they should do their research etc... but this guy was abviously wanting a few pointers and got blasted for it. Take it as a compliment that he feels confident in this forum to be able to prvide him with the bit of knowledge he requires to do a flash and then be done. He has never done one before and will never do one again so why does he have to spend weeks reading material that potentially could give him answers that you could write in a line or so?
Please, don't flame the noobs.
I find that more often than not they don't come back.
Look how many times he has replied to this thread since the first guy flamed him... none.
No ill feelings to the original poster, as we were all there one day,
but to see it as a thread headline made me laugh!!! Actually made my day!
No worries, ROM Flashing is easy as hell!!
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I see this as a website to go to to find answers.
Similarly to how I would go to Dell.com (or whatever) if I wanted to find a PC to buy to play my latest game I bought.
I don't go reading through the technical manual on how a CPU or GPU works so that I know which one to buy. I look to the people who already have the knowledge to answer the questions I have.
Most of the regular posters on here (I'm guessing) already know a lot about flashing PDAs etc... especially the first guy who flamed the OP. If you don't want to share your knowledge then don't take part in the forum. Yes, there are people who are trying to find an easy way to learn everything that you know and I agree that they should do their research etc... but this guy was abviously wanting a few pointers and got blasted for it. Take it as a compliment that he feels confident in this forum to be able to prvide him with the bit of knowledge he requires to do a flash and then be done. He has never done one before and will never do one again so why does he have to spend weeks reading material that potentially could give him answers that you could write in a line or so?
Please, don't flame the noobs.
I find that more often than not they don't come back.
Look how many times he has replied to this thread since the first guy flamed him... none.
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Nobody get paid in this forum. You pay Dell for their machine so you may and should entitle some service. If you get some free service AND some free spanking in this forum, that is life, no flesh does not come with blood. Even experienced one may get spanked once a while by asking non-sense question. No need to be too thin-skin.
You may also be the lucky ones who has plenty of money and being pampered and like the noobs who like to ask million dollar question like "Which is the best ROM in this forum?" or "How do I flash my ROM step_by_step with guaranteed no risk?" or "Where do I get free SIM unlock service?" and expect an answer right away.
Many people paid to have their machine unlocked. Getting knowledgeable advice from someone is a service and entitled to get compensation for. Talk to a lawyer for advice, you will fully appreciate all the good folks in this forum and they are the one needed to be pampered and not the noobs.
One will learn and learn by reading this forum. It is more like drugs to me now.
He hasn't replied, that is good, that means he is doing reading and reading and reading..... If he is not, why he want to risk his $600 machine and ended up blaming everyone in this forum for not helping him or prevent him from doing that.
I don't think he was flamed by the #2 or #3 or # .... He is being educated! He is benefiting by this experience! The machine that's saved maybe his!
Please note there is a note in this forum which says:
Reading this Forum (Wiki) may be hazardous to your health!
Hey, I think it may also be hazardous to your family life, your love life, and/or your current job! Not just your machine!
Lets get a bit real here...
The name of this site is XDA-Developers. There is a bit of a clue in the title as to a certain amount of pre-knowledge. This guy asked what a ROM is - he could have got his answer from dictionary.com but instead decided to go to a group of people who are (or were) efectively researching on the forefront of the XDA pda's.
Most noobs (me included) have a lot of experience of computers but at first they don't have any idea of how to translate this into WM5 or WM6. But they learn quick because they already have the pre-knowledge to enter a developers site. This question was nothing like that and there is a greater than 90% chance that we'll be fending off the 'what is the best rom', 'how do I insert the stylus', 'how do you spell brick' type of questions unless he is discouraged from proceeding without some serious reading.
I know there are nice and nasty ways to tell someone what to do, but my experience of these forums is that people who don't read will not read the 'help granny cross the road' style of advice - but they do tend to get the point when flamed a bit (and it could have been worse).
Anyway, I hope he's gone away - keeps reading and then comes back a bit better prepared. And lets face it - anyone can flash a Rom, but not everyone can recover from a bad flash - and bad flashes is what we want to prevent at any cost.
farhanali_ said:
Thats very positive attitude, instead of bashing ppl like bunch of 7th graders you actually made an effort to provide exactly what the newbie was looking for... VERY NICE, I LIKEE
I totally understand that this is a very basic question but instead of loading your guns you should just point the person in the right direction like ericc191 here. Just think of yourself when you got your 1st pda phone ever...
Thats just my 2 cents..
cheers
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Actually, I bricked my first PDA phone on the second day... That's when I found this forum However I managed to unbrick it. Somehow. Can't remember the how.
Hi Everyone, yes I've been sandbagging for the last few weeks or so since I picked up my Kaiser. I've noticed the high levels of frustration with noobs asking questions before searching and also noticed people like Gwen who have had major success off their own bat (congrats Gwen).
I have a question to pose to the elders )) ... I am relatively technically savvy but really only as an end user and part time tweaker. I am keen to try Dutty's 6.1 Rom but when I start reading about Rom flashing/cooking etc I get hopelessly lost in the details.
To get to the point, my suggestion is, would it be helpful and probably reduce a lot of clutter in the regular channels if there was a dedicated channel where noobs could hangout and ask potentially silly questions without fear of annoying ppl and where 'experts' and more experienced noobs could drop in to answer when they have time.
My example is this.. I have scoured the boards and found several how-to's on flashing including the very helpful Rom Flashing Wiki thread. But I still find myself with a question without an obvious (to me) answer. I bought my Kaiser outright (in Australia), do I still need to do the step to remove the CID using Hard SPL before kickin off the update???? If I don't will I brick my phone? Perfect question for a noob channel.
Sorry for the lengthy virgin post, thought I might try and help while asking for help. Thanks for your time.
Cheers.
well am a mid noob not an expert but can tell u that u need to use the kaiser unlocker to do the SPL and unlock the radio aswell, there is no other way to upgrade unless u SPL first.
"u only have to SPL if using unofficial roms and official roms from other operators like at&t..etc"
hope am right though but that's what i gathered from wiki
hmmm
i know that we are all virgins at the beginning but.....
if you cant understand what to do after reading all the wikis and all the answers that elders give all the noob questions then you maybe should not start meddling in things that might get your unit to become a paperweight.
all the answers you might have have alredy been aswerd time and time again.
i also have questions from time to time and have found that the search button has served me well.
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i know that we are all virgins at the beginning but.....
if you cant understand what to do after reading all the wikis and all the answers that elders give all the noob questions then you maybe should not start meddling in things that might get your unit to become a paperweight.
all the answers you might have have alredy been aswerd time and time again.
i also have questions from time to time and have found that the search button has served me well.
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Fair call...
@ahassouna - thank you for the reply, appreciate it.
Could someone have a look over what im planning to do and if im planning anything wrong let me know, thanks a lot. I upgraded my last orange tytn2 to the official HTC wm v6.1 a couple of weeks ago and encountered the dreaded screen lag problem. It was so bad and made by phone so unusable i gave up and called in orange care to bail me out.. broken screen, honest.
I have got a replacement now and still want wm6.1, i quite like some of the newer features, especially the threaded txt features. I have read all the forums and downloaded all the software (and have i noticed a fix for the wm6.1 lag problem that caused me so much grief two weeks ago).
This is what i plan to do....
1 Backup all docs and personal data.
2.copy the JumpSPL1.56-KAIS.exe to my device and run it (my last tytn had the white screen prob, this one will prob be the same)
3.unplug and replug the usb cable
4.flash with the HTC SPL 3.28
(or should i use this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922)
5.run RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship to upgrade the rom
6.reflash with HTC SPL 3.28 then reeboot
will the above process be ok and more importantly will it avoid the screen lag problems.
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(or should i use this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922)
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use that one, make sure you have done the procedure correctly. After that you have hard spl, and you can begin flashing any of the wonderful Kaiser roms that are available in this thread.
Now for my soapbox:
This information regarding proper flashing procedures is readily accessible in multiple locations including the wiki, and the stickied thread at the top of this forum. Please take the time to try to learn some of this by reading, and if you have questions about any particular part, please please please post in that thread instead of creating a new one. This place is getting messy in here (though that's partly due to all the wonderful chefs whipping out the new roms constantly...we appreciate your work guys!)
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will the above process be ok and more importantly will it avoid the screen lag problems.
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thats what are new hardspls are for: to get rid of screen freezes in wm6.1. Please read wiki and all important and relevant info before flashing. The track you have chosen is pretty much accurate, but posting a thread like this will get you scolded by the mods...
Thanks for your replies guys, and sorry to the mods if this posting has caused any problems in this forum.
Now for my soapbox:
This information regarding proper flashing procedures is readily accessible in multiple locations including the wiki, and the stickied thread at the top of this forum. Please take the time to try to learn some of this by reading, and if you have questions about any particular part, please please please post in that thread instead of creating a new one. This place is getting messy in here (though that's partly due to all the wonderful chefs whipping out the new roms constantly...we appreciate your work guys!)
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I just received my Kaiser a yesterday coming from being a long long time Wizard user. Before I even received it I began reading everything I could to be ready to flash.. If there is one thing i could comment on though is that it appears that in the past month or so the Kaiser Rom flashing process has been changing a bit. I mean a new official 6.1 was released, diamond roms are coming out, and over coming various radio problems.
That being said, the wiki probably needs to be examined and updated as much as possible in these changing times. Once I get kaiser ground underneath me, I will be more then glad to contribute, as that is what this site is about, developers helping other developers. For instance, the page about ROM Upgrading basically just says flash pofs hard spl 1.0. Yes the new jockyws hard spl just came out, but still...
I don't know.... Just throwing it out there..
Coming from a wizard, the kaiser it a entirely different beast.. I am glad i have put in the time to do some reading, and its good to see some over the old wizard cooks here, and excited to to test out some new stuff.
Is there a list of ROMs anywhere or can could people tell me what is available? I have spent hours and hours searching the Internet, searching this forum and I have only come up with a few and I know there has to be more than what I am finding.
The main reason I want different ROM is because I don't want my Tilt to lock up with my bluetooth anymore and hopefully my sound won't disappear making me reboot to get it back. Everything else is a bonus.
So any help is appreciated before I drive myself more insane than I already am.
(and no, I don't want to know which one is the best, I will figure that out on my own )
I really doubt you've searched, because there was a recent thread attempt to list them, and you'd have known about our WIKI.
We do not give out handouts. Put in the EFFORT.
Your phone shouldn't be locking up often with the stock ROM. If it is, there's probably something wrong with it or your bluetooth device or some crummy software you've got on it.
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I really doubt you've searched, because there was a recent thread attempt to list them, and you'd have known about our WIKI.
We do not give out handouts. Put in the EFFORT.
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Put in the effort? I have been doing this for 3 days now and have been up until 2:00 in the morning trying to do all of this and I get a message like this? I have never had someone be like that to me on a forum. Unbelievable. Nothing like being helpful.
Please do me a favor and close this, I would rather spend my days searching instead of this crap.
I flash roms more often then a Trench-coat wearing man in a70's porno I normally end up on blackstone, PDA ultimate or the vista one all three IMHO are rock soild stable and feature packed if you read the wiki which is sticked at the stop of this forum you will learn all you need to learn about unlocking the wiki also contains the links to all the patched and bug fixes as well as a huge number of add-on's
Closed, follow suggestions, read the wiki for Kaiser it has a comprehensive list of avaliable stock & cooked Roms.