Hi! My old T-mobile Magician (bought in Germany) has decided to die... or maybe not. When I turn it on it stuck at the first boot screen where appears the OS, GSM references. When I try to put it in bootloader (3 colours screen) to try to install a rom, I get the 3 colours screen but not the SERIAL indication which I think its necessary to get it in USB mode to transfer data. However, when I connect the USB cable the USB appears in the screen. I try to install the rom I get a connection error.
Do you think that my beloved Magician is realy died or is it only a reversible hard attack?
Thank you for your help and opinions.
Can you see what version your bootloader is? Odd, neither mine or my uncle's Magician has a 3-colour bootloader (or any colours, speaking of colours).
Hi All,
I am havin Orange branded Kaiser.
All of sudden Sync not workin, so cant connect to computer, so I have decided to send it for repair.
But now problem is cant revertin back to soft SPL, Guys any Idea I can flash SPL through the MicroSD.
I am really stucked pls help me, will really appreciate
Thank you
sounds like your **** out of luck did you read the sticky on the top that explains how to do so? and maybe the rom you flashed was causing active sync not to work? was the phone charging? did you have the settings set correct seems like a strange thing to send a phone in for repair for to me
Can't sync is usaly a setting issue. Hard-Reset device first. If it still does not sync, send it back.
xmoo said:
Can't sync is usaly a setting issue. Hard-Reset device first. If it still does not sync, send it back.
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I completely agree, try other USB ports and try another computer.....
Thank you 4 yr responses Guys
I already have tried with diff. sync cables and diff. computers. I tried diff ROMs(includin HTC original shipped) as well but nothing happen.
It does charge the device perfectly but One thing is bit weired it is when you enter in bootloader mode(Camera+Power+Reset) on the top in tri color screen it shows the info abt SPL version and at the bottom it shows "Serial" and when you connect to PC with sync cable it shows "USB" and if you connect with power cable only it stays with "Serial" so at least device itself recognise connection type which is normal but doesnt connect with PC, there must be something blocking the connection in the device, what I think there could be a virus.
I am really in trouble, I desperately need original SPL to revert back 4 warranty
Pls help me
Thanx
I have an at&t Tilt. I am having a problem with the device automatically powering off during the Windows screen while loading.
To get to where I am at:
1. I followed the instruction to install the HardSPL from HERE. On my bootloader screen, I see:
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8
2. Then I did the Sim Unlocker procedures found HERE. After completing step 5, the device rebooted, the AT&T icon displayed, then the screen goes blank and stayed that way.
3. I found the fix for the black screen problem HERE. It was a radio problem, and I needed to update the radio to a compatable radio.
4. My phone worked fine for a day. The next day, my phone just died and when I rebooted, it said critically low battery. After I tried to charge it overnight (with AC adapter charger), it was still critical low battery. Then I tried USB charger for the day, still critical low battery. I figured it was a SPL-Radio conflict.
5. Then it stops getting into Windows altogether. It will power off at the Windows loading screen. I let it charge all day. I suppose that the battery is not dead because it is able to stay on the Tri-Color screen without being plugged in, and it always turns off at the same exact point while loading Windows.
6. I still can get to the tricolor screen. I can see USB when plugged and serial when unplugged.
7. I can flash ROMS, and I will even see the different Windows loading screens (Dutty's screens are different than the AT&T green Windows screens.) I have tried original AT&T and cooked WM6.0 Roms/Radios, WM6.1 Roms/Radios. It still keeps rebooting at the Windows loading screen. I tried the original and cooked roms from HERE.
8. I tried accessing the phone via MTTY and use the "boot" command. I still don't fully understand the boot command and what exactly it does, but from my understanding, it resets the boot loader chip.
9. I would like to update the SPL -- instructions HERE. But since I can't fully boot the phone, I can't actually run the Soft SPL (JumpSPL).
Please... any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Similar Problems/Threads:
1. http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406163
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409272
Try to charge through the usb port on your computer... I have had a similar issue, but that was full stock and still have the issue. HTC chargers wont work for me but select moto ones will. Does the orange light come on when you connect by USB to your computer?
I have tried charging through the USB port on my computer (as well as AC Adapter). It does show the amber light on top (for both methods), but no matter how long I charge it, it will never get to the fully charged green light.
I haven't tried a different (non HTC) charger, but I will try that next.
Are you sure the SIM card door is locked? My phone reboots on its own during start-up if the SIM door is nor properly locked into place...
I just tested the sim card cover. It will reboot at the same point even if the cover is on of off. However, I do believe the cover is sitting correctly, because if I'm at the white AT&T boot screen and remove the cover, the phone will power off.
have you tried hard-resetting your tilt before and after flashing? I had the same problem before. Try to do a hard reset, flash a stock ROM for your tilt, then hard reset afterwards. If same thing happens again, we'll try another method
Put phone in tricolor mode and connect with MTTY.
Type "info 8" and post output here. I suspect problem is caused by bad sectors in the OS area.
There a few different forums on this same subject, and I had the exact same experience on a brand new kaiser last week and thought it was dead. Yea, your gonna have to do a hard reset holding down the power and camera buttons then clicking the soft reset button to get to tri color bootloader mode before it dies, then plug into pc and reflash the official htc rom. It seems like a one time phenomenom as my Kaiser is running just fine now as I was three seconds away from flushing it down the toilet
jockyw2001 said:
Put phone in tricolor mode and connect with MTTY.
Type "info 8" and post output here. I suspect problem is caused by bad sectors in the OS area.
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Here is the output after using MTTY:
Cmd>info 8
--- 2K bytes sector version ---
DEVICE NAME=samsung_k9k2g08
DEVICE ID=0xAA
DEVICE MAKER ID=0xEC
PAGE SIZE=0x800
TOTAL PAGE SIZE=0x840
BLOCK COUNT=0x800
BLOCK PAGE=0x40
Checking block information
BLOCK 0 (0x0) is reversed block
BLOCK 1 (0x1) is reversed block
BLOCK 2 (0x2) is reversed block
BLOCK 8 (0x8) is reversed block
BLOCK 9 (0x9) is reversed block
BLOCK 10 (0xA) is reversed block
BLOCK 11 (0xB) is reversed block
Partition[0], type=0x20, start=0x2, total=0x63E
Partition[1], type=0x23, start=0x640, total=0x700
Partition[2], type=0x25, start=0xD40, total=0x94C0
Partition[3], type=0x4, start=0xA200, total=0x110C0
CE Total Length(with sector info) = 0x5151000
CE CheckSum Length(without sector info) = 0x5100000
Cmd>
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There a few different forums on this same subject, and I had the exact same experience on a brand new kaiser last week and thought it was dead. Yea, your gonna have to do a hard reset holding down the power and camera buttons then clicking the soft reset button to get to tri color bootloader mode before it dies, then plug into pc and reflash the official htc rom. It seems like a one time phenomenom as my Kaiser is running just fine now as I was three seconds away from flushing it down the toilet
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I have tried a hard reset before and after flashing the ROM. The method I used was pressing down the two buttons on the front of the phone then soft reset (one above internet button and one above mail button)... then I am prompted with a white screen saying, "This operation will delete all your personal data, and reset all settings to manufacturers default. Press Send to restore manufacturer default, or press other keys to cancel." Please let me know if this method is wrong.
I actually haven't tried the official HTC rom because my phone is originally an AT&T phone. I have tried the official AT&T rom, including the WM6.0 and WM6.1, but I will try the HTC rom now. It won't hurt to try!
UPDATE: After hard reset --> Load official HTC Rom 1.56.405.5 (radio 1.27.12.11) --> hard reset again. Still does the same thing... still rebooting during Windows load. The only difference, no more AT&T screen during bootup... now it's a "smart mobility" message.
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I have tried a hard reset before and after flashing the ROM. The method I used was pressing down the two buttons on the front of the phone then soft reset (one above internet button and one above mail button)... then I am prompted with a white screen saying, "This operation will delete all your personal data, and reset all settings to manufacturers default. Press Send to restore manufacturer default, or press other keys to cancel." Please let me know if this method is wrong.
I actually haven't tried the official HTC rom because my phone is originally an AT&T phone. I have tried the official AT&T rom, including the WM6.0 and WM6.1, but I will try the HTC rom now. It won't hurt to try!
UPDATE: After hard reset --> Load official HTC Rom 1.56.405.5 (radio 1.27.12.11) --> hard reset again. Still does the same thing... still rebooting during Windows load. The only difference, no more AT&T screen during bootup... now it's a "smart mobility" message.
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my OS is writing in bad blocks before that's why it's rebooting over and over again. What I did was use jocky's frankenkaiser (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393337). This WIPES OUT ALL DATA IN YOUR KAISER and you need to restore it back again. FOR THIS YOU NEED TO FLASH THE RADIO FROM HELL (get it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182) AND AN OLD SPL which you have right now. Read the directions carefully-- it's not that hard but also not for the faint-hearted. Goodluck!
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my OS is writing in bad blocks before that's why it's rebooting over and over again. What I did was use jocky's frankenkaiser (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393337). This WIPES OUT ALL DATA IN YOUR KAISER and you need to restore it back again. FOR THIS YOU NEED TO FLASH THE RADIO FROM HELL (get it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182) AND AN OLD SPL which you have right now. Read the directions carefully-- it's not that hard but also not for the faint-hearted. Goodluck!
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I know you specifically said to get the radio from hell, but after reading jockey's guide, I got the other radio that GSLEON3 successfully got working with FrankenKaiser. Now I'm stuck because it didn't work out for me. I used radio 1.64.08.21 rather than the actual radio from hell 1.65.17.10. Hopefully GSLEON3 and Jockey will be able to help me with this one.
Can't recall I published FrankenKaiser for radio 1.64.08.21
Here is is:
http://rapidshare.com/files/130939717/FrankenKaiser-V1.9408.zip.html
(follow the readme inside the zip file)
jommo said:
I know you specifically said to get the radio from hell, but after reading jockey's guide, I got the other radio that GSLEON3 successfully got working with FrankenKaiser. Now I'm stuck because it didn't work out for me. I used radio 1.64.08.21 rather than the actual radio from hell 1.65.17.10. Hopefully GSLEON3 and Jockey will be able to help me with this one.
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ooops... replied to your pm it seems jocky sent you the correct one already. Good luck mate
Losing hope....
Well, I successfully completed the FrankenKaiser process, updated my SPL to reflect:
Security Unlocked
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.1.JockyW
CPLD-8
I am still getting the power off while Windows loading.
I even tried to load back the original radio from hell (1.65.17.10) and completely ran through the FrankenKaiser process hoping somehow it would fix the problem... but unfortunately, it did not work.
1. Maybe I'll try a few more rom/radio combinations
2. At least I can re-use FrankenKaiser to get back to factory SPL when I attempt to go through the warranty process.
Any other suggestions??? Please let me know.
***Thanks for the help so far Jockey and pfcsabre***
I also have the at&t tilt kaiser version and used the North American Rom update from the HTC website to get it back up. Have you tried getting into tri color bootloader mode by holding the power and camera buttons then clicking the soft reset button then connecting to pc and flash the the official rom? That's what worked for me
also, are you getting any kind of notifications before it shuts down?
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I also have the at&t tilt kaiser version and used the North American Rom update from the HTC website to get it back up. Have you tried getting into tri color bootloader mode by holding the power and camera buttons then clicking the soft reset button then connecting to pc and flash the the official rom? That's what worked for me
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I have NOT been flashing this way. I have been flashing anytime I get to the tri-color screen, rather than this exact procedure you noted. (Tricolor bootloader--> then soft reset and back to tricolor bootloader) I don't know if this makes a difference or not, but I just tried your method with the rom from the HTC website AT&T Official Rom Download from HTC Website. Still no luck. It still turns off at the Windows screen.
Also, I do not get any kind of notification at all. It always resets before or at the Windows Mobile 6.X screen. I do get a distinctive chime the majority of the time right as it shuts down.
I was having random power down issues as well. This may or may not be the same as your problem, but mine ended up being a hardware issue with the camera itself. My device would suddenly say the camera (actual camera hardware not software) was not recognized and then soon after I would get the chime and then shut down. My only solution was to warranty it. Let's hope I have better luck with a replacement device then a lot of the other storries I have read around here.
Goin' for the warranty...
I want to try the warranty route now. I feel it's hardware at this point because I've already done FrankenKaiser.
Now, my problem lies with returning back to the factory SPL and Rom. I can use FrankenKaiser to UNDO "Security Unlocked" and then use JumpSPL via FrankenKaiser to get back to the factory SPL, but from that point, how do I get back to the original ROM?
Note that I still can't boot into Windows at all, and I will want to flash OEM Rom while I have the OEM SPL. Will the OEM SPL allow flashing back to the OEM Rom, WITHOUT JUMP SPL???
Thanks for your input..
I am posting this here since there seems to be way too many threads around here all saying the same thing diffently yet in NO clear way that everyone can understand. I spent 2 days trying to recoved a Prophet from a bad flash.
Symptoms
Prophet stuck in Bootloaded (Tri Color Screen)
Prophet stuck in 2nd Splash (Usually Your providers Splashcreen)
Solution Read as (This is what I did to fix it)
Download a WM5 Prophet\Wizard Official Rom (I still own a Wizard so I used the K-JAM_WWE_216901_2169101_020710_ship rom, the devices are very similiar concerning chipsets with the hardware keyboard seeming to be the biggest difference)
Extract the Rom (if it is distributed in an exe format with a tool like Winrar or 7zip)
Download the Prophet Tools Light package and extract to any folder . This contains both G3 and G4 RUU's (I can confirm this worked on a G4 Device)
Place the Official nk.nbf in the \Utils\Flash folder
Drop the phone into bootloader (Tri Color Screen) mode and connect to PC via usb.
Allow a few seconds for the usb connection to settle and run the RUU specific to your device.
DO NOT TOUCH the device or PC at this point. If your pc is a tad slow, go make some coffee and watch an episode of Big Bang Theory
This should now give you a shiny new (or old ) rom that is bootable which will allow you to upgrade your Prophet to any of the pretty WM 6.1 roms available.
Just a little tip:
If you are worried about messing up the device again use Alternate "Lazy tool" by dioxda. Its easy and it works !
I couldnt make this process any clearer if I tried
heeey...sorry but after this my prophet go death... i cant turn it on, and i dont know how but it seems that i cant charge it no more...
is death... can anybody help me how 2 fix this?
P.S.sorry if my eanglish is not very good.
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heeey...sorry but after this my prophet go death... i cant turn it on, and i dont know how but it seems that i cant charge it no more...
is death... can anybody help me how 2 fix this?
P.S.sorry if my eanglish is not very good.
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Strange this worked perfectly for me, but when I tried updating to a different rom I got the same problem you are facing now. Just a quick flash on the screen and blue and red LED flash. If I plug it in it just sits there flashing the whole time. I am looking into this as soon as I get a solution I will post it here. Any help guys ?
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Strange this worked perfectly for me, but when I tried updating to a different rom I got the same problem you are facing now. Just a quick flash on the screen and blue and red LED flash. If I plug it in it just sits there flashing the whole time. I am looking into this as soon as I get a solution I will post it here. Any help guys ?
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Recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401326
If at any stage your Prophet fails to start properly or can only enter bootloader follow this:
* Download and install the latest version of ActiveSync (Google for it)
* Download and unzip an AKU2.2 (No Vendor) ROM for the Prophet-any AKU 2.2 will do-from [here | ftp://xda:[email protected]_NVID.exe] or [here | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...=Prophet_ROMs]
* Within ActiveSync DISABLE connect through USB (Tools->Connection Settings->Uncheck Allow Connect through USB)
* Put the Prophet into bootloader mode (hold the camera button and insert the stylus into the larger hole next to the power socket)
* Plug the Prophet in via USB
* Run the RUU specific to your device (G3 or G4) from the AKU2.2 folder. If there is only one RUU, use that.
* When it has finished: disconnect the Prophet, and then re-enable the connect through USB in actyivesync before reconnecting the device.
==> if success, will going back into WM5 and then u can use the Lazzy Tool, look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=353547
choose WM 6.1 ROM, after u doing that step, u already done with the WM 6.1 SEMOGA SUKSES!
yes it works again ...
Help, please?
Hi guys,
I have a slightly different problem. When I turn on my Prophet, it is in bootloader mode, so I take out the battery, leave for 3 seconds, put the battery back in, turn on the Prohpet.
Bootloader is displayed
Plug into PC with Active Sync 4.5 running (USB disabled)
Windows makes the 'new hardware connected' sound
RUU shows USB in bottom corner
Run the NVID no vender ROM,
Agree to first screen
Agree to second screen
Click Next
Prophet turns off
Windows makes the 'hardware disconnected' sound
Argh
No Prophet, no phone - incommunicado!
When I turn the prophet on now, I just get the bootloader, then it turns itself off after 10 seconds.
Could it be a low battery? - How do I charge it? I have left it plugged in to the power all night!!!
Could it be a faulty phone? - I have been having random resets over the past 3 weeks or so and thought that it was the WM6.1 rom installed, so was trying to put WM5 back on to see if that helps. - I am beginning to think there may be something wrong with the device?
I am trying a few more things from this forum before giving up and buying a new windows smartphone!
Any help would be apreciated!
Regards Mike
Guess it could be a power issue. - I got further just now by using a powered cradle instead of just a usb cable, but still reset at 80% complete. Will leave the phone charging using a wall charger only for an hour and see how i get on with that!
Its Fixed!
Ok,
So it turned out to be a low battery. - I charged the Prophet up for 1 hour and then ran the re-flash and it worked perfectly.
Now I just need to get the Orange rom back on it so its back to normal - Not faffing with WM6.1 - will stick to WM5 as its much quicker and works!
Maybe I was a bit too fast in posting the problem!
Thanks
Mike.
Hey guys, I purchased a locked HTC Fuze from eBay, and I was using Olipro's unlocker to unlock it, however I got stuck in bootloader mode before step three somehow. I cant get the phone to run activesync either.
Initial Screen:
"RAPH 110
SPL-1.90. OliNex
MicroP-Raph (LED) v13
MicroP-Raph (KEY) v5
PSOC- Raph STAGE_CUT x0x36
Upgrade ROM code error
Please Try Again
Serial"
After I hold the volume down + enter + Soft Reset with the stylus
"This operation will delete all of your personal data, and reset all settings to manufacturer default. Press volup to restore manufacturer default, or press other keys to cancel"
I pressed volup then it says "Restory.... waiting to be completed" once it finishes it says press volup to boot. Then it goes back to the initial screen which says
"RAPH 110
SPL-1.90. OliNex
MicroP-Raph (LED) v13
MicroP-Raph (KEY) v5
PSOC- Raph STAGE_CUT x0x36
Upgrade ROM code error
Please Try Again
Serial"
Did i manage to corrupt the ROM? Any help will be appreciated, I have been researching this problem for hours
You should flash a stock rom with a usb connection. It should fix your problem. You have hard spl, and your bootloader is good to go, so I don't think you'll have a problem. I had a bad radio flash a few weeks ago (corruption on my sd card seemed to cause it), and I was stuck in the same spot you are. A quick flash of a stock rom fixed it. Just look up the stock ATT rom and give it a go. You'll be fine. Then flash whatever you want.
To get the usb connection to work, open up active sync on your pc, and under connection settings make sure the 'allow usb connections' box is unchecked.
Alright, on the bottom of the screen it now says "USB" because its plugged into the cable. But im running vista, and I cant get the Fuze to show up on the Windows Mobile Center.
Hey Farmer Ted, Thanks for the help man. It is greatly appreciated, I found a ROM over here.
/showthread.php?t=487994
Great Website guys. Im off to unlock and flash to 6.5 now. Haha.
I'm having the same issues as the OP. I've got the exact same error issues, and I also cannot connect to active sync. I have a Mac, so I had to borrow someone's PC. They have Vista, and I downloaded Windows Mobile Device Center, but I'm unable to connect via USB. I unchecked Allow USB connections, but is there anything else that should/shouldn't be checked as well? The options are:
Allow connections to one of the following: COM1, COM2, Bluetooth. (Default setting had it checked and set to Bluetooth.)
This computer is connected to: Work Network, Internet, Automatic (default)
Allow automatic device authentication (checked)
Allow data connections on device when connected to PC (unchecked)
Khoyifish, how did you get it to show up?