HTC S 710 - HTC Vox

Hi everyone, the great great great fourm...
I need advice from you...
I purchase S710 that was locked for some swiss network. The salesman told me that he somehow unlocked it and I can now use it on any network that i want....but I think that he broke it
First issue
-1- Battery life
The battery last 24 hours, I do not have TomTom, my wirelles and bluetooth are off, all power settings are ajusted to increase battery life. Dispalys goes blank after 30 sec. I even do not use it so much (2,3 SMS, 1 call...) whatever I do battery cannot last longer.
-2- Lost connectivity with GSM operater
This is serious issue. It shows full connectivity but no one can reach me, moreover when I try to call the call failed. Only reset (turn off and back on) helps . I have some old nokia and it has also full sinal and is availabe. Both devices are at same operator. All this brings the conclusion that there is something wrong with the new device.
It has wm6.0 and I serously think about flashing.
Do you think that it might help?
Thank you
Igor

About Batery Life Conversation you can read HERE
I dont know anything about signal or chanel. someone should know about this. just wait
in my experience, Im try to flash a vox ROM to another Rom.so I found a best Radio and flash it for my signal and place. it will save your batery life..
hope its help.

thanks
Sure it helps...

Yes, check what Radio version you have, there might be a newer one. Look in the Wiki for more details!

Upgraded to Dr Gonza ROM, It was smooth. So far so good...

Over
It is finally over, I removed dr Gonzo rom and installed WM 6.1 Clean from fireburned. I like keep things simple so that is the why I removed dr Gonzo rom and I had some issues with tornado power manager in dr Gonzo rom....
So the improvement is 400%. My baterry life increased on 4 days, the reception is great, I overall impression is that this is the best HTC device that I ever had. It looks like ordinary phone but has so much possibilites.
Thank you all for keeping this site alive
Igor

wow...its awesome... is it really long for 4days? great.. mine just 1 day w/o use wifi or bluetooth...
i realy need to buy a new batery as mine is 1-2 year old...
hey igrotti which radio that your use yours?

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Battery\power issue, please help.

Hi,
I am having an issue with my battery: it drains really really fast, I mean I am loosing 10% per hour. It all started when I flushed my first 128mb compatible rom. I went from Mo3ulla latest to Ivans and back to Mo3ulla and all three had this issue. I also noticed that phone doesn't go to standby, backlight off - works, but turning power off after 2 min setting just doesn't do anything.
Apps I have are:
SPB PocketPlus 4, pBar, A2DPToggle, TCPMP, AEButton and that is pretty much it.
Any ideas and help is very much appreciated.
1. kill resident programs on device such us SPB PocketPlus 4, pBar,
2. check device battery status // they may be in charging status (due hardware bug)
3. execute instructions which i write in theme
mo3ulla said:
1. kill resident programs on device such us SPB PocketPlus 4, pBar,
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Did that, nothing changes
mo3ulla said:
2. check device battery status // they may be in charging status (due hardware bug)
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checked, didn't see any issues
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3. execute instructions which i write in theme
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did all of the things you mentioned in the thread, problem still exists.
The reason I started a new thread is beause it doesn't seem to be rom related. Could the reason be just old or defective battery?
How old is your device/battery?
If it is older than six-eight months, most likely it is soon going to die. That's how it started for me too. Then it'll get worse, like losing charge when plugged into the mains, and your device suddenly dying at around 50%, which will increase later.
The easiest solution would be to buy a new battery. If that solves the case, then cool. If it doesn't, you'll have a backup battery when your current one dies
Getting worse
I've had the device for about 4-6 month, not sure how long previous owner has had it for. New battery is on the way.
Tried everything. I flushed official rom form i-Mate and then Mo3ulla's latest and radio 1.15 - no luck. On one of the forums here I've read that taking battery out for about 5 min helps with fast draining, I've tried it and think it did help for a bit (I could be wrong) but then all problems came back.
Problems:
1. Registered applications after working properly for few days - now gives an error that the app license data can not be red.
PBar 1.5 top bar indicator moving around on the bar, it starts in the original right position and then moves to the middle of the bar.
2. "Turn device OFF if not used for"... option in power settings doesn't work - the device never turns off. "Turn backlight off" - works fine.
As Mo3ulla suggested I checked the GSM band settings - it is set for PCS1900 which I believe is correct for T-Mobile USA. Is it?
I just hope is is not a hardware issue as I am in USA and there are no UNI repair shops in the area.
If you have any idea on what to do please let me know as I am close to desperate mode and will try anything at this point.
when my battery started dying at 50% within 2 weeks i could only get 1 1/2 minutes of use out of it. i tried different ROMS, followed the instructions in the wiki but none of that worked for me.
Basically it was just the battery, i have used it everyday for about 2 years so i had my use out of it. I would definately buy a new battery for what they cost. i got mine on ebay for about £7 ($14 or so)
Yep
shoulders said:
when my battery started dying at 50% within 2 weeks i could only get 1 1/2 minutes of use out of it. i tried different ROMS, followed the instructions in the wiki but none of that worked for me.
Basically it was just the battery, i have used it everyday for about 2 years so i had my use out of it. I would definately buy a new battery for what they cost. i got mine on ebay for about £7 ($14 or so)
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NEw batter is on the way already, I am just affraid that it is something else, like hardware error, and if that's the case - I am screwed.
I've noticed the same thing with my Universe. It started after new ROM upgrade just 3 days ago.
Best way
Belka77 said:
Hi,
I am having an issue with my battery: it drains really really fast, I mean I am loosing 10% per hour. It all started when I flushed my first 128mb compatible rom. I went from Mo3ulla latest to Ivans and back to Mo3ulla and all three had this issue. I also noticed that phone doesn't go to standby, backlight off - works, but turning power off after 2 min setting just doesn't do anything.
Apps I have are:
SPB PocketPlus 4, pBar, A2DPToggle, TCPMP, AEButton and that is pretty much it.
Any ideas and help is very much appreciated.
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Beasty and Lairentius 2.08.01 Rom
5 hours of wifi ( 3400 mah battery )
3 hours of wifi ( standart battery )
Standby mode really works
but this rom have another problems
Whatever
Battery life is first important thing for me.
and i will not change this rom ever.
Belka77 said:
As Mo3ulla suggested I checked the GSM band settings - it is set for PCS1900 which I believe is correct for T-Mobile USA. Is it?
I just hope is is not a hardware issue as I am in USA and there are no UNI repair shops in the area.
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this information you can obtain from operator itself ... just call to operator
Belka77 said:
NEw batter is on the way already, I am just affraid that it is something else, like hardware error, and if that's the case - I am screwed.
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no its not hardware .. in your case its battery ... when battery arrives you will need to proper start use it ....
Update: It's alive
Well it is all better now. I installed Mo3ullas v1(not 128 MB) and device behaved much better: "Turn off power" setting worked and all in all this was excellent rom except for one thing - no A2DP. Then I went with Ivan's V1 and it all looks good now, no strange behavior from apps, power of works. A2DP works and so on, so I guess it was the issue of compatibility of Rom and Device. For some reason 128MB roms don't agree with my (and only my) device. I am looking to by the 64MB ram chips and do the upgrade will see what happens. Thank you all for you help.
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no its not hardware .. in your case its battery ... when battery arrives you will need to proper start use it ....
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Mo3ulla could you clarify what you mean by proper start use it?
Also if anyone knows where I can order just a couple of those 64MB chips - would be greatly appreciated. So far all distributors I contacted want to sell them by thousands and the site that was mentioned here (don't remember the url) that does sell them individually wants $80 and that is way too steep.

XDA Exec battery life - more than 14hrs req.d

Bit of a noob question for my first post - sorry
Bought myself an SPV M5000 (remember them??) running WM6... didn't realise how big this thing was till it turned up
Anyway - the issue - in standby alone I seem to be getting about a days worth of battery out of it before it dies. This is not acceptable.
Running radio version 1.18.00 (Dunno if the rest is important, but ROM 2.07.00 WWE, Protocol 42.54.P8)
Now I've found some archived threads about rolling the radio version back to help solve this - was 1.18.00 one of the problem versions (should have fixed it by now surely??) and if so, how far back should I be looking?
Anything I could/should try before this? and...being really lazy now...could anyone post/show me to an idiot's guide for doing this
Thanks (and I promise to contribute more on future posts...if I don't just bin this paperweight first)
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TllEWL said:
Bit of a noob question for my first post - sorry
Bought myself an SPV M5000 (remember them??) running WM6... didn't realise how big this thing was till it turned up
Anyway - the issue - in standby alone I seem to be getting about a days worth of battery out of it before it dies. This is not acceptable.
Running radio version 1.18.00 (Dunno if the rest is important, but ROM 2.07.00 WWE, Protocol 42.54.P8)
Now I've found some archived threads about rolling the radio version back to help solve this - was 1.18.00 one of the problem versions (should have fixed it by now surely??) and if so, how far back should I be looking?
Anything I could/should try before this? and...being really lazy now...could anyone post/show me to an idiot's guide for doing this
Thanks (and I promise to contribute more on future posts...if I don't just bin this paperweight first)
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Welcome to the forum
I would recommend you to enter to Universal forum and read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=267448
I have heard that some radios drain the battery fastet than others, I´m using 1.08 and my original battery from 2005 last me day and a half using a lot of calls and some BT and WIFI
Good luck and don´t forget to vote!
OMG! Soo much information
Thanks for the steer to the Universal section (may have found that eventually, but god knows how long it would have taken)
3hrs later, I think I've established that although I don't have the randomly dying battery (still going at .... 21%) Radio 1.18 works for others, so I probably do need a new battery - the phone's still got its protective screen covers on it, but that's not to say that the battery was new.
I'll switch back to my Treo (7days+ with use) for now and just use the brick for the SatNav till I get a new battery.
Don't think I'm gonna be able to spare the time to read up on how to do all this flashing stuff safely so hope the new battery works
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OMG! Soo much information
Thanks for the steer to the Universal section (may have found that eventually, but god knows how long it would have taken)
3hrs later, I think I've established that although I don't have the randomly dying battery (still going at .... 21%) Radio 1.18 works for others, so I probably do need a new battery - the phone's still got its protective screen covers on it, but that's not to say that the battery was new.
I'll switch back to my Treo (7days+ with use) for now and just use the brick for the SatNav till I get a new battery.
Don't think I'm gonna be able to spare the time to read up on how to do all this flashing stuff safely so hope the new battery works
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Yes a new battery is the best solution, try to get the original!
On Universal forum there is a member called Dukenukem that sells the original ones at good price
You actually don´t have to spend so much hours reading and it´s worth!
Cheers and don,t forget to vote!
TllEWL said:
Bit of a noob question for my first post - sorry
Bought myself an SPV M5000 (remember them??) running WM6... didn't realise how big this thing was till it turned up
Anyway - the issue - in standby alone I seem to be getting about a days worth of battery out of it before it dies. This is not acceptable.
Running radio version 1.18.00 (Dunno if the rest is important, but ROM 2.07.00 WWE, Protocol 42.54.P8)
Now I've found some archived threads about rolling the radio version back to help solve this - was 1.18.00 one of the problem versions (should have fixed it by now surely??) and if so, how far back should I be looking?
Anything I could/should try before this? and...being really lazy now...could anyone post/show me to an idiot's guide for doing this
Thanks (and I promise to contribute more on future posts...if I don't just bin this paperweight first)
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First: Yes Exec is a brick and Since I have it, I have given up to carry my 45 Magnum. HTC Universal (Exec) can do the same job
Be Frank IMHO Exec had never good battery live.. I hear some people saying they can last 1-3 days with it, but in my case: Push mail 80-100 mails, calls, a lot reminders and PIM use it has never lasted full one day.
My suggestion to stretch your battery live:
1) Low Phone Signal increase the power connection:
2) Radio Version depends on your service provider or Country.. In some countrys or locations the 118 has no problem but in others it leads to high power consumption or even device freezes. The best thing you can do is try different version and observe your phone Signal; call Quality and Battery live. Here you can find most Radio versions to download: http://vidmes.com/xda/Uni/Radios/
3) Changing frequent location (Driving) also decrease Battery live.
4) Set your Phone Band Manually to GSM or 3G dont use the setting "Auto"
5) Set your backlight settings to min brightness. ( in my case only to first line!!! Lower then that is Darkness)
6) Set Your Beam off to Incoming Beams
8) Backlight Time.. Set to min time ( in my case is 1min after that bcklight goes off)
9)Turn off device if not used... (In my case time: 1 min)
10) Find the Right ROM.. According my experiences some ROMs have high CPU usage.. even though nothing is active but CPU is running high. In most cases Shell32.exe leading to high CPU. ( My current ROM is Tomal 8.5 standard. very happy with it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=454906 )
11) If you don’t use push mail or don’t Sync. Kill the process repllog.exe. Again in Some ROM the Activesync. runs even though there is nothing to sync. (Push mail or Desktop Sync.) That leads additional CPU usage and also unnecessarily memory consumption.
At the end you will find out that you might need one more spare battery or one with higher capacity as it has been discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432099.
Furthermore if you plan to carry the exec on your belt you may also need one of these:http://www.suspenderstore.com/susu60.html
Bulldog said:
Furthermore if you plan to carry the exec on your belt you may also need one of these:http://www.suspenderstore.com/susu60.html
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Oh boy, that link does not carry well across the water, it conjures up totally different images here in the UK.
deedee said:
Oh boy, that link does not carry well across the water, it conjures up totally different images here in the UK.
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It was not my attention to indicate to the guys with less hair.. it should be protection for not losing his pants.
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It was not my attention to indicate to the guys with less hair.. it should be protection for not losing his pants.
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Has to be said that comparison isn't a huge amount better, , UK pants are under garments, the outer ones are trousers.
And i am missing the guys with less hair connection, suspenders in the UK are a female lingerie item.
deedee said:
Has to be said that comparison isn't a huge amount better, , UK pants are under garments, the outer ones are trousers.
And i am missing the guys with less hair connection, suspenders in the UK are a female lingerie item.
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Thanks for the “Pants” correction in British English.
According the Dictionary it seems in American English meaning of Pants can be also trousers. But hey how I would know..English is just my 4th language.
However Somehow I start to miss your connection to female lingerie items. Frankly speaking it appears to me that you did not see the suspender pictures in the link that I have given or else you would have seen those are the one of two straps worn over the shoulders to hold up trousers (pants). I believe to have seen that such suspender are also worn by Skinheads which some call them “the guys with less hair”
In Order to make it short, I suggest after you seen the pictures in the link, if you would still insist that such suspenders are in UK under the category lingerie items then I might need talk to the Web Company that sells those. They have somehow categorised that suspender under “BIG & TALL GUYS suspenders”????
Anyhow you have a Great day
I didi look at the link and hence my comments, i had missed the reference to skinheads, what is being sold as suspenders are called braces in the UK.
deedee said:
Has to be said that comparison isn't a huge amount better, , UK pants are under garments, the outer ones are trousers.
And i am missing the guys with less hair connection, suspenders in the UK are a female lingerie item.
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hello deedee one simple question for you. Which UK online store has best range of lingerie items? I hope you will post some quick reply. Thanks in advance

This phone is starting to become a pain....

I was excited when I got this phone, everything was going cool and all that....
The battery is the worst thing I have ever seen. I've tried all the radios, got all the power tweaks applied, I get down to 75% battery on EDGE, only texting in less than 5 hours. WTF is this? Is this a joke? It's not even funny! And not to mention the unreliabilty of the phone. I plan to send an email to HTC and ATT to see if I can work out anything. Never buying a phone from HTC again.
I think it's your rom. I get through a full day on H no problem. Which roms have you tried?
Also it could be radio and what most likely is the signal strength. As weaker the signal, as more power required to compensate.
WAAAAHHHH! Don't buy a smart phone then.
I get a full days use. About 2 hours of music playing, signed into an IM client and do some msg and talking and still have 75% at the end of the day.
My guess that its your rom, but i am betting you didn't change the setting in HTC's task manager.
Go to Settings > system > Task manager and change the close action button actually close the buttom. The default action for WM task manager and HTC task manager is to minimize or hide the apps.
So let's say i open WMPlayer, Google Maps, Contacts, Text, Microsoft word. I hit the X, but if i don't change that setting, when i press the X, those programs are still running consuming battery and memory.
Try making sure no unneeded tasks are running and update your radio to 1.14.25.05, and Da_G's 6.5 rom and lets see how ya do next week.
PwnCakes193 said:
I was excited when I got this phone, everything was going cool and all that....
The battery is the worst thing I have ever seen. I've tried all the radios, got all the power tweaks applied, I get down to 75% battery on EDGE, only texting in less than 5 hours. WTF is this? Is this a joke? It's not even funny! And not to mention the unreliabilty of the phone. I plan to send an email to HTC and ATT to see if I can work out anything. Never buying a phone from HTC again.
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Yo PwnCakes193..
I feel yur agony.. I used to experience shi tty battery life too.. My raphael can only sustained for like 5 hours.. without battery draining applications like music player even running..
However, Things took a turn when i flashed my raphael to the following rom and radio:
ROM Version: ROMeOS v1.95.4 WWE
Radio: 1.12.25.19 (With matching rilphone version)
It is so much better now !! I have calls and sms coming in while Garmin GPS is running for like an hour with battery dropping only 15% from 100% to 75%... !! And i **** u not.. And by the way.. my raphael's been with me for like 5 months now.. I'm loving it more each day..
Good luck and hav fun!
Too advanced for you?
PwnCakes193 said:
I was excited when I got this phone, everything was going cool and all that....
The battery is the worst thing I have ever seen. I've tried all the radios, got all the power tweaks applied, I get down to 75% battery on EDGE, only texting in less than 5 hours. WTF is this? Is this a joke? It's not even funny! And not to mention the unreliabilty of the phone. I plan to send an email to HTC and ATT to see if I can work out anything. Never buying a phone from HTC again.
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Well go buy an iPhone and stop cluttering our forum. They are made for the mainstream trendy techno gadget people who cant solve their own problems, but still want to look cool and smart in public when they pull out their phone. Neither ATT or HTC is going to change their whole hardware because of your e-mail.
Do you even realize what youre saying? Do you listen to yourself when you talk? First off, anyone that knows how to use their phone, and sets up the correct ROM/RIL/Radio combination gets a full day charge off of it, sometimes even a couple days. Second, do you realize that is a small PC in your pocket, and youre complaining about battery life?? Have you ever used a laptop? You know that brand new laptops only get 2-3 hours of battery life right?
Really, go get a regular phone, HTC phones are not made for everyone, and apparently this one is too complicated for you.
I echo what's been said in above posts and would add as a suggestion only to try the new htc rom with the 1.14.xx radio both are the latest from htc. Boring I know, but very stable. Don't throw your device away without trying it. The custom roms can be frustrating as they can be unstable at times, but very fun to tweak and experiment with.It sounds like yourmore a user who wants stability over the rest. Go to htc site and search for latest rom, try that 1.14 radio and report back.
I use a 1800 mAh battery in my pro and I always charge everynight. Not a big deal. I also have prolly less than the 75% you reported at the same time, another not a big deal. "it is what it is" You can adapt or you can get a diff phone. I have an LG dumb phone my work supplies me for calls only, that battery lasts 2 weeks . LOL!!
wow, harsh words.
It's not like this complaint is an isolated one. There are other forums out there(AT&T, and Howard) that have the same observations about battery life. To say that it is a portable pc and that someone should be happy with 6-8 hours of battery life is pretty silly too. It is a smartphone, like the blackberry, like the treo, like the blackberry. And when people complained about the battery life of the Iphone, it's not like everyone said, deal with it. Apple released another firmware to try and remedy this. Blackberrys seem to go for a couple if not more days without charging with 3G, push email etc running, so why would this not be expected from the Fuze?
I own both the Tilt and the Fuze and find I can squeeze out about 3 days with push email, a bluetooth headset, about an hour or two a day of listening to music through the headset and 3G enabled. The Fuze is supposed to be the successor of the tilt, so wouldn't it be logical to think i should be able to do the same with this product? I have flashed several different roms and radios(with the rilphone.dll) and right now cannot get past 8 hours of usage on it. I thought it was the radio but I have tested it without a sim in it and get the same results. So either the battery is faulty, or it just stinks.
I am going through troubleshooting it right now, and based on some helpful hints on other forums, am trying to discharge the battery fully in hopes that it resets the battery guage.
I think helpful posts, like those that say try a new radio/rom are good ways to respond. Saying "go get an Iphone" or "this is a ppc, deal with the battery" are not helpful to people who search the forums for solutions.
Just my 2(maybe a lot more) cents
Reefermattness said:
Well go buy an iPhone and stop cluttering our forum. They are made for the mainstream trendy techno gadget people who cant solve their own problems, but still want to look cool and smart in public when they pull out their phone. Neither ATT or HTC is going to change their whole hardware because of your e-mail.
Do you even realize what youre saying? Do you listen to yourself when you talk? First off, anyone that knows how to use their phone, and sets up the correct ROM/RIL/Radio combination gets a full day charge off of it, sometimes even a couple days. Second, do you realize that is a small PC in your pocket, and youre complaining about battery life?? Have you ever used a laptop? You know that brand new laptops only get 2-3 hours of battery life right?
Really, go get a regular phone, HTC phones are not made for everyone, and apparently this one is too complicated for you.
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Really? Listen a**hole, I know what I'm dealing with. I'm running the 21210 build of 6.5 that I cooked in Da_G's Kitchen with the .20M1 radio AND RIL. Yes, I know i'm being picky, but a phone should last at least a little while, no matter what. I get a full day charge, but just texting and no calling, on EDGE, I should easily be down to 85% in 24 hours. I know it's a small PC, but that is no excuse. I am a mainstream tech savvy person, and I mod/hack everything I own, use everything to it's full potential. I don't want an iPhone because its an overhyped and, in my opinion, horrible phone. I was never trying to look cool when I bought this phone. I even helped a few members out here when they bricked their phones, and I taught a few how to cook ROMs!
Next time think before you post, you troll.
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I think it's your rom. I get through a full day on H no problem. Which roms have you tried?
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I have tried almost all the ROMs, my favorite being At0mAng's, but he's gone now . I'm cooking my own 6.5 ROMs now
The Fuze is supposed to be the successor of the Tilt? I guess according to the order that ATT purchased their HTC phones, but probably not according to HTC...
The HTC Touch Pro is the successor of the Diamond. Just because ATT replaced the Tilt with the Fuze does not mean its the successor. Tmobile is calling the TP2 the "Wing 2" in America, does that mean it's the successor to the wing?? NO. If anything most hardcore HTC follower will agree the TP2 is the successor to the Tilt (kinda obvious isn't it?).
Regardless of what order they came in, or what phone its supposed to replace, the Fuze has a bigger processor, twice as much ram, and twice as high resolution LCD. Its hard to compare the 2 on battery life. My Tilt gets a faster GPS lock, and the battery lasts way longer, than the Fuze. Does that mean its better? NO.
If you're such a badass 'hacker' then you should obviously understand how much power the hardware in your device uses vs the size of the battery.
I'm the troll? You joined XDA a month ago....
If you have an honest question where you need help then please ask, and im sure someone will help you get MUCH better battery life! All i really meant by what i was saying before i got sidetracked, is that if you don't like your HTC products, or it doesn't fit your lifestyle like you thought it would, then take it back, and get something else. Just don't come into a HTC forum, and start badmouthing products, because that will get you nowhere, and you should have been expecting the answer you got.
I'm with leak73 on this one. I think this forum is great, but I do think there are too many people that jump on someone as soon as they say anything negative about this phone.
I bought this phone to make my life easier, to manage work and personal tasks on the same device. I thought this device was the one I had been waiting for.
I am also disappointed with the performance of the Raphael. And I don't think it should be asking too much to expect the device to work properly straight out of the box. Yes, I appreciate that this is a windows mobile device that has massive flexibility and can be customised, but those possibilites should be in addition to a stock device that does the basics properly.
I have had a number of issues with the phone - battery life, dailer issues, poor reception (and I know this can contribute to poor battery life, but why should it be so much worse than other devices I have used in the same areas?).
The members on this forum have helped me out a lot over the past few months (which I am very grateful for) tweaking and trying to get this phone to be what it should have been in the first place. And while I am now enjoying tweaking and customising my phone, I will never criticise anyone who points out the shameful fact that this device is virtually unusable without putting time and effort into sorting it out.
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If you're such a badass 'hacker' then you should obviously understand how much power the hardware in your device uses vs the size of the battery.
I'm the troll? You joined XDA a month ago....
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Where'd you get badass? I just said I hacked/modded a lot of the things I owned.... I haven't gotten into the processing specs and all that stuff yet...
And since when does being a troll have to do with what time you joined? I have yet to troll on this forum, I have either asked questions, or have helped people who are having trouble....
jjjacksonjjj said:
I'm with leak73 on this one. I think this forum is great, but I do think there are too many people that jump on someone as soon as they say anything negative about this phone.
I bought this phone to make my life easier, to manage work and personal tasks on the same device. I thought this device was the one I had been waiting for.
I am also disappointed with the performance of the Raphael. And I don't think it should be asking too much to expect the device to work properly straight out of the box. Yes, I appreciate that this is a windows mobile device that has massive flexibility and can be customised, but those possibilites should be in addition to a stock device that does the basics properly.
I have had a number of issues with the phone - battery life, dailer issues, poor reception (and I know this can contribute to poor battery life, but why should it be so much worse than other devices I have used in the same areas?).
The members on this forum have helped me out a lot over the past few months (which I am very grateful for) tweaking and trying to get this phone to be what it should have been in the first place. And while I am now enjoying tweaking and customising my phone, I will never criticise anyone who points out the shameful fact that this device is virtually unusable without putting time and effort into sorting it out.
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I hear that, I can relate as I've had my s**t jumped a few times on this forum as well and I always learned from it. I'm not an expert at all and thats the reason I come here to learn about my various wm devices, currently the touch pro. I undestand the issues especially with battery and stability.Except for battery I don't have any complaints that you mention. My RF which I value as a number 1 priority is very good. No dialer issues here either. I also think it would be nice to have perfectly operating devices right out of the box and considering what we pay for these things, it seems we should get better. In my experience all the wm devices I've ever had have had inadequate batteries. It's just the way it is. I did not expect my pro to be any diff. in that regard. I got it anyway and bought a better battery. In the past few weeks I've tried various 6.5 roms with differing results and none were very stable. It's the way it is and I don't really expect it to be better, but I love it anyway. I've used symbian s60 nokia devices and thought some of the e series have outstanding stability and battery life. So I have choices.
My choice is to continue learning and I'll get extended batteries when I think I need it. When I get tired of the wm BS I'll go back to E series for awhile.
For anyone who is calling themselves proficient in wm and the various ins and outs of flashing and obviously has some experience apparently, I find it kinda strange that they would be surprised by the battery life. Stability can be had from diff rom combos. But bad battery life is a given with wm. we get used to it and move on or go check out e series. It also rocks! Lotsa choices.
Maybe I am one of the unluck ones that have experienced more than my fair share of problems. I have had more issues than I mentioned in my last post - obviously the GPS problem, keyboard lag (although it seams to be fixed now with tweaking), dodgy call acceptance/ring delay (this seems sorted in the new HTC Rom), active sync issues (not sure if this is the software though) and the general lock up issues.
Don't get me wrong though when this device works it is everything I hoped for, I just wish it worked like that all (or at least most) of the time.
jjjacksonjjj said:
Maybe I am one of the unluck ones that have experienced more than my fair share of problems. I have had more issues than I mentioned in my last post - obviously the GPS problem, keyboard lag (although it seams to be fixed now with tweaking), dodgy call acceptance/ring delay (this seems sorted in the new HTC Rom), active sync issues (not sure if this is the software though) and the general lock up issues.
Don't get me wrong though when this device works it is everything I hoped for, I just wish it worked like that all (or at least most) of the time.
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what tweaks did you apply to fix the keyboard lag?
wow, boys, calm down. *****ing at each other is oh so productive. maybe we could try to HELP each other out and be friends! just a thought...
i'm getting maybe 12 hours on a full charge running the leaked att stock rom and it's really starting to tick me off. i bought a portable power pack that can give me a full charge on its full charge (Xpal harry II) but i want to be able to get AT LEAST a full day without having to pop it onto a usb or wall charger for 20 minutes. im thinknig of flashing to da_g's or natf's 6.1 roms witihn the next couple weeks hoping that they'd be able to improve my battery life. i'm pretty happy with the radio and i'm in boston so no major signal issues there. maybe it's just a sh*tty rom draining my battery?
and now that i wasted 10 minutes reading this thread, i'm giong to go back to studying for finals. joy.
EDIT: I installed the fuzeberry theme a week or two ago and that's caused a TF3D problem (see my thread here about this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511760) but is there any chance that THIS is also killing my battery? hate the att manila but i might have to revert back if it gets me more hours :\
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what tweaks did you apply to fix the keyboard lag?
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****, sorry mate I can't remember now, I changed a setting in the registry and installed a keyboardincrease cab? Maybe others on here will be able to point you in the right direction. I am a noob at this type of stuff really and just follow instructions that members on here suggest - once the problems fixed I forget about it.
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try using a 6.5 ROM I cooked now, it's doing fairly well, i would Hard-SPL, then try and flash a new radio or ROM, should help you out, turn off 3G, which should help. Also download advanceconfig and turn on the power saving items there.
FWIW, I have never had good results with the gps, but since I flashed the htc 5.05.401.1 with radio: 1.14.25.05 I now get very quick lock times. Also battery is a bit better even tho I'm running shell3.

newbie question: which ROM is most stable

New to the site and have never upgraded the ROM on my Orange E650 (still running original ROM version 1.35.61.1). Just had it sim unlocked by jockyw2001 as I need to port my number over to another provider due to signal issues.
Have read through some of the posts and am interested in flashing it with one of the WM6.5 ones. Could you tell me which one is the most stable? The only applications I use on the phone are the browser and skype although only for IM as the call quality is very poor even when using the wifi connection.
Thanks,
i use wm 6.1 v1.1(from Dr. Martin Gonzo). is the most stable and fast in my opinion. whit default home screen, it take about 2 seconds to rotate image when sliding. so..is the faster for me. i recomand it! the wm6.5 ones take higher to rotate screen with the 6.5 home screen
Thanks I'll give that a try this weekend.
Hi Sfan1, I am using fireburned's WM6.5Clean3.1 since a half year on my Vox allmost without any problems (bluetooth handsfree in my car sometimes make trouble, but not often). I think standby time is normal (I tired other ROM's and it is nearly the same - WLAN need much power, without using WLAN standby time is okay (okay not comparable with Nokia), Titanium homescreen is nice, and in total it is a very good ROM.
Regards odiad

Battery life problem

Good evening everyone,
I gladdly use my HTC polaris for 2years with at least 4 days of life ( with HSDPA, WIFI , only GSM) and running WM6.5 since the begginning.
Few weeks ago, I was using the GPS on car when the phone started to reboot few times.
I feel he was very very hot, and it continue to reboot ( usb car plug in )and get hot. ( I had to use the GPS to drive to my destination !)
After this experience, the phone barely has a 1 day of battery life after a full charge.
I naturly thought that the battery overheat and my usb car plug has a problem..
I bought a new battery on 10000volts.com web site ( seems to be an 1350mAh )
=> Same battery life after a full charge.
I've tried to desactivate hardware not used but everything was already desactivate.
I also make an Hard reboot and with both genuine and new battery, I had the same problem.
The phone don't seems to become hot anymore.
Is there any clever guy who can give me any information, tests to know what is the problem ?
Thank a lot.
Hi!
Try installing a new RADIO!
I am using the 1.59.44.02 since I switch to WM6.5 and everything look good to me ?
With Radio version you suggest me to install ?
Thank a lot.
Nicolas
I am now on 1.64.08.21 RADIO
( I was forced to use the direct nbh copy to SD card method...)
I keep you informed of the battery performance.
niko83dk said:
I am using the 1.59.44.02 since I switch to WM6.5 and everything look good to me ?
With Radio version you suggest me to install ?
Thank a lot.
Nicolas
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Always in all my gadgets use the latest, however I dont have a polaris for suggest for the better, but the tip above looks good!
The result
=> 25% drop in 3 hours.
( Gess it is the same problem )
and sound problem during call, no one hear me , no camera, i switch to the old radio

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