Battery\power issue, please help. - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development

Hi,
I am having an issue with my battery: it drains really really fast, I mean I am loosing 10% per hour. It all started when I flushed my first 128mb compatible rom. I went from Mo3ulla latest to Ivans and back to Mo3ulla and all three had this issue. I also noticed that phone doesn't go to standby, backlight off - works, but turning power off after 2 min setting just doesn't do anything.
Apps I have are:
SPB PocketPlus 4, pBar, A2DPToggle, TCPMP, AEButton and that is pretty much it.
Any ideas and help is very much appreciated.

1. kill resident programs on device such us SPB PocketPlus 4, pBar,
2. check device battery status // they may be in charging status (due hardware bug)
3. execute instructions which i write in theme

mo3ulla said:
1. kill resident programs on device such us SPB PocketPlus 4, pBar,
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Did that, nothing changes
mo3ulla said:
2. check device battery status // they may be in charging status (due hardware bug)
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checked, didn't see any issues
mo3ulla said:
3. execute instructions which i write in theme
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did all of the things you mentioned in the thread, problem still exists.
The reason I started a new thread is beause it doesn't seem to be rom related. Could the reason be just old or defective battery?

How old is your device/battery?
If it is older than six-eight months, most likely it is soon going to die. That's how it started for me too. Then it'll get worse, like losing charge when plugged into the mains, and your device suddenly dying at around 50%, which will increase later.
The easiest solution would be to buy a new battery. If that solves the case, then cool. If it doesn't, you'll have a backup battery when your current one dies

Getting worse
I've had the device for about 4-6 month, not sure how long previous owner has had it for. New battery is on the way.
Tried everything. I flushed official rom form i-Mate and then Mo3ulla's latest and radio 1.15 - no luck. On one of the forums here I've read that taking battery out for about 5 min helps with fast draining, I've tried it and think it did help for a bit (I could be wrong) but then all problems came back.
Problems:
1. Registered applications after working properly for few days - now gives an error that the app license data can not be red.
PBar 1.5 top bar indicator moving around on the bar, it starts in the original right position and then moves to the middle of the bar.
2. "Turn device OFF if not used for"... option in power settings doesn't work - the device never turns off. "Turn backlight off" - works fine.
As Mo3ulla suggested I checked the GSM band settings - it is set for PCS1900 which I believe is correct for T-Mobile USA. Is it?
I just hope is is not a hardware issue as I am in USA and there are no UNI repair shops in the area.
If you have any idea on what to do please let me know as I am close to desperate mode and will try anything at this point.

when my battery started dying at 50% within 2 weeks i could only get 1 1/2 minutes of use out of it. i tried different ROMS, followed the instructions in the wiki but none of that worked for me.
Basically it was just the battery, i have used it everyday for about 2 years so i had my use out of it. I would definately buy a new battery for what they cost. i got mine on ebay for about £7 ($14 or so)

Yep
shoulders said:
when my battery started dying at 50% within 2 weeks i could only get 1 1/2 minutes of use out of it. i tried different ROMS, followed the instructions in the wiki but none of that worked for me.
Basically it was just the battery, i have used it everyday for about 2 years so i had my use out of it. I would definately buy a new battery for what they cost. i got mine on ebay for about £7 ($14 or so)
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NEw batter is on the way already, I am just affraid that it is something else, like hardware error, and if that's the case - I am screwed.

I've noticed the same thing with my Universe. It started after new ROM upgrade just 3 days ago.

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Belka77 said:
Hi,
I am having an issue with my battery: it drains really really fast, I mean I am loosing 10% per hour. It all started when I flushed my first 128mb compatible rom. I went from Mo3ulla latest to Ivans and back to Mo3ulla and all three had this issue. I also noticed that phone doesn't go to standby, backlight off - works, but turning power off after 2 min setting just doesn't do anything.
Apps I have are:
SPB PocketPlus 4, pBar, A2DPToggle, TCPMP, AEButton and that is pretty much it.
Any ideas and help is very much appreciated.
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Beasty and Lairentius 2.08.01 Rom
5 hours of wifi ( 3400 mah battery )
3 hours of wifi ( standart battery )
Standby mode really works
but this rom have another problems
Whatever
Battery life is first important thing for me.
and i will not change this rom ever.

Belka77 said:
As Mo3ulla suggested I checked the GSM band settings - it is set for PCS1900 which I believe is correct for T-Mobile USA. Is it?
I just hope is is not a hardware issue as I am in USA and there are no UNI repair shops in the area.
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this information you can obtain from operator itself ... just call to operator

Belka77 said:
NEw batter is on the way already, I am just affraid that it is something else, like hardware error, and if that's the case - I am screwed.
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no its not hardware .. in your case its battery ... when battery arrives you will need to proper start use it ....

Update: It's alive
Well it is all better now. I installed Mo3ullas v1(not 128 MB) and device behaved much better: "Turn off power" setting worked and all in all this was excellent rom except for one thing - no A2DP. Then I went with Ivan's V1 and it all looks good now, no strange behavior from apps, power of works. A2DP works and so on, so I guess it was the issue of compatibility of Rom and Device. For some reason 128MB roms don't agree with my (and only my) device. I am looking to by the 64MB ram chips and do the upgrade will see what happens. Thank you all for you help.
mo3ulla said:
no its not hardware .. in your case its battery ... when battery arrives you will need to proper start use it ....
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Mo3ulla could you clarify what you mean by proper start use it?
Also if anyone knows where I can order just a couple of those 64MB chips - would be greatly appreciated. So far all distributors I contacted want to sell them by thousands and the site that was mentioned here (don't remember the url) that does sell them individually wants $80 and that is way too steep.

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Problems with HTC S710

After reading some forum threads, I couldnt find any answers to my two main problems.
First of all, the battery life is horrible. After a day of medium usage the battery has to be recharged. I was trying many different things, but nothing would do any difference in battery life. I have been reading about 2-3 days of battery life. No way. Not with my device.
Isnt there anyone who has traced the problem? Is there any fix I dont know about?
Second, what is this light sensor supposed to do? There dosnt seem to be any difference having it on or off in the settings tab, nor is there any difference in various light conditions. I could hold the device in perfect dark or under a 100 Watt light, there dosnt change anything. I was wondering if this is some bug, fault or not implemented feature. A light sensor is supposed to control the keypad backlight. Am i wrong?
One last thing. Is there any setting to control the brightness setting of the device?
Thanks for your help and time.
1. battery life is great for me. have you installed any software that is doing stuff all the time ? have you changed any power settings ?
2. light sensor is only for keypad light. keypad light will not come on in bright conditions.
I don't think there is any setting for screen brightness (I have been looking all over the place). Would be a good thing for HTC to get out in the next firmware release.
First of all thank you for your reply. As it appears, the light sensor does
work as intended after doing some cleaning around the area of it.
Cant think of any reason for this as the device was never really used
outside or under heavy conditions. The battery life however still is
nowhere near good. No programs were installed at all. I did a hard
reset and avoided to install anything till I get some hold on this issue.
As for screen brightness, you are right. There are no settings to be
found in the menu and nothing seems to be posted around the web.
Any other suggestions?
I have had many pda phones. the difference is that they are full computers and can do alot more then normal phones but never have the battery life.
I have never got more then 2 days from any pda/phone, inc. nokia s60s which are supposed to have have good battery life.
I am getting around 3 days from the htc s710. This is with a few calls every day and around 30mins wifi. Although I recharge every 2 days otherwise its on 1 bar for the end of the third day which is disconcerting.
If you are getting less then this on moderate usage it might have a fault. Presumably you have it under guarantee.
I really have to recharge it every night, otherwise I am out of luck on the next
days morning. The only two reasons for this i can think of are, either its really
a fault of the device or battery, or Bluetooth is draining more energy on this
device than it did on any other I know of. Prior to this I was using a Nokia N73
with the exact same usage and was able to operate it for at least 2 days
without the need of recharging.
I am somehow disappointed by this device. While its a great smartphone overall,
the battery issue is giving me a hard time here.
How is your reception? Bad reception could be a reason for bad battery life.
Isn't the N73 a 3G phone and maybe you have better 3G reception than GSM?
Just a theory...
...i get 60 hours after the 3rd charging circle with bluetooth on all the time and two push mail accounts (company exchange server and windows live mobile push, push is active between 7 am and midnight), some phone calls and web sessions. thats absolutely acceptable.
cheers, lutz
htc-s710
same here friends
bluetooth and 1 exchange over gprs and wifi open all the time
nice battery life.
msaw said:
I really have to recharge it every night, otherwise I am out of luck on the next
days morning. The only two reasons for this i can think of are, either its really
a fault of the device or battery, or Bluetooth is draining more energy on this
device than it did on any other I know of. Prior to this I was using a Nokia N73
with the exact same usage and was able to operate it for at least 2 days
without the need of recharging.
I am somehow disappointed by this device. While its a great smartphone overall,
the battery issue is giving me a hard time here.
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I have found a bug in the power settings.
Quick qu. (before I tell you what it is)
- have you ever changed the power settings (i.e. screen shut down)
- does your screen switch off (It will always dim - but does it switch off completely) ?
rgds
msaw said:
I really have to recharge it every night, otherwise I am out of luck on the next
days morning. The only two reasons for this i can think of are, either its really
a fault of the device or battery, or Bluetooth is draining more energy on this
device than it did on any other I know of. Prior to this I was using a Nokia N73
with the exact same usage and was able to operate it for at least 2 days
without the need of recharging.
I am somehow disappointed by this device. While its a great smartphone overall,
the battery issue is giving me a hard time here.
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n73 is known for having an above average battery life, so expecting the s710 to be anywhere close to that is asking for dissapointment
I have an E650 and have bluetooth on all day syncd with my tom tom for handsfree calling. Spend about 3 hours a day on the phone, send about 30 txts. if battery is fully charged before i go out i'll have at least 60% left by the time i go to bed. The battery life beats the old xda exec I used to have hands down, so no complaints from me.
colonel said:
I have found a bug in the power settings.
Quick qu. (before I tell you what it is)
- have you ever changed the power settings (i.e. screen shut down)
- does your screen switch off (It will always dim - but does it switch off completely) ?
rgds
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Yes, I have changed the power settings.
Yes the screen switches off after the set period of time.
msaw said:
Yes, I have changed the power settings.
Yes the screen switches off after the set period of time.
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But, screen switches off or backlight switches off...is different!
Byee
Sky_Lab said:
But, screen switches off or backlight switches off...is different!
Byee
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Backlight switches off. I cant see anything on the screen, its going black.
Cant comment if its just the backlight or the screen as well.
The problem you have is well known.
Tomtom is causing this.
You have to change some things in the registry settings.
"\HKCU\Control Panel\Power\ value display"
Make this value 30 and after 30 seconds the display is completly off.
This should solve the problem.
Found this on www.pocketinfo.nl
rademaar said:
The problem you have is well known.
Tomtom is causing this.
You have to change some things in the registry settings.
"\HKCU\Control Panel\Power\ value display"
Make this value 30 and after 30 seconds the display is completly off.
This should solve the problem.
Found this on www.pocketinfo.nl
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Dear rademaar, I appreciate you advice and help, but I havent ever installed
or used TomTom. While I think that others programs might as well alter
some registry settings and be the cause of the problem, I have to say that we
are talking about a Hard-Reseted, no software-installed Vox here wich cant do
more than a day without charge.
Someone stated that the GSM coverage might be the cause of the problem.
I am starting to think that this might be possible.
rademaar said:
The problem you have is well known.
Tomtom is causing this.
You have to change some things in the registry settings.
value display"
Make this value 30 and after 30 seconds the display is completly off.
This should solve the problem.
Found this on www.pocketinfo.nl
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I did however check the value you mentioned, and it appears that I dont have
any values inside "\HKCU\Control Panel\Power\", it goes deeper into
"\HKCU\Control Panel\Power\LockLevel" value display gives key "Locklevel=0".
Do you suggest to alter this value or create a new one?
if you backlight is turning off (after dimming), then its not the cause of any issue.
the backlight issue is comprehensively covered here:
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=254042
BIG WIFI problem..
Hi, I have just bought it and after trying the wifi (while the phone was charging) I encountered in a problem. First connection ok, then I disable the connection tries again and the wifi status was always connecting...
So I reboot the phone and now I have no wifi status and it say to me that the driver is not loaded!!!!!
impossible to connect to wifi.
I have already done a clean of the system but it still dont work.
No program has been installet yet!
thank you for your help
Problem w/Vox Keyboard - Anyone Else?
Hey all...
First I want to qualify this post by saying that I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS SMARTPHONE! I've finally found the convergence of one-handed use w/a full keyboard that does all my contact/appointment tracking, emails, etc.
Now...my problem: I've had the phone about 30 days now, and just last week have had problems with the backspace, carriage-return, shift, function and space keys on the QWERTY keyboard. They will just stop responding in the middle of typing (doesn't matter if it's a message, email, calendar notes, etc.) The only way I can fix the problem is to slightly close & reopen the keypad with a little flex-pressure on either end of the phone.
Luckily Mobile Planet will exchange the phone for me with no charge, but I was just wondering if anyone else was having this problem.

WM6 & Battery drain!!

How in the world could the same battery of 1620mAh running on an operating system (WM2005) with a reasonable time and then running under a later operating system (WM6) -which's supposed to be better one- drain like anything!!
I have not seen anyone under this forum praised power mngmt using WM6!!
I wonder how could the later PPC models with lesser battery capacity (1350mAh) run for a longer period than Universal!? How could the same CPU been used in two different models running under two separate OS have better power mngmt?
Is't a false battery meter reading? Is't a false battery threshold that's is required for WM6 that the OS is misinterpreting or misreading? Is't a processing power and running-in-the-background apps?
Could someone explain and perhaps hack the codes of commands for the power mngmt? I mean we are fed up guys
Someone has to handle this...
Cheers
WM6 & Battery Issue
Cyber-mate said:
How in the world could the same battery of 1620mAh running on an operating system (WM2005) with a reasonable time and then running under a later operating system (WM6) -which's supposed to be better one- drain like anything!!
I have not seen anyone under this forum praised power mngmt using WM6!!
I wonder how could the later PPC models with lesser battery capacity (1350mAh) run for a longer period than Universal!? How could the same CPU been used in two different models running under two separate OS have better power mngmt?
Is't a false battery meter reading? Is't a false battery threshold that's is required for WM6 that the OS is misinterpreting or misreading? Is't a processing power and running-in-the-background apps?
Could someone explain and perhaps hack the codes of commands for the power mngmt? I mean we are fed up guys
Someone has to handle this...
Cheers
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I strongly agree with you...am experiencing the same.
something is problem with WM6 & Universal.
Hope this Main issue will be solved with the upcoming WM6 builds
Really wondered why none of our friends raised this issue, infact i was waiting for a message like this......
thanks
Bye
Hate to break it to you guys but this has been discussed before,
here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311168&highlight=battery
and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310078&highlight=battery
and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306064&highlight=battery
and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302193&highlight=battery
The general consensus was that the flashing process can sometimes screw up the bettery's sensors, giving false reading of being fully charged or at a certain percent.
THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM WITH WM6
Look through the above links, some have good suggestions on how to fix this issue
TehPenguin said:
Hate to break it to you guys but this has been discussed before,
here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311168&highlight=battery
and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310078&highlight=battery
and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306064&highlight=battery
and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302193&highlight=battery
The general consensus was that the flashing process can sometimes screw up the bettery's sensors, giving false reading of being fully charged or at a certain percent.
THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM WITH WM6
Look through the above links, some have good suggestions on how to fix this issue
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Okay TehPenguin. After carefully reading those posts, most have agreed that it is the ROM to blame!! How come man? If others said it is hardware related, some said it is the battery life itself!
I am raising a question here. Have anyone tried replacing the .dll and other battery related files to find out whether it is the coding? Remember when Uni. was first introduced and iMate patched the battery justifying the battery drain? Then it could be the same?
Now, most of the other devices in this forum had an upgrade, anyone encountered the same with their respective device likewise Uni?
The floor is open...
If it is the ROM, then why are only some people affected?
I will concede that it may be possible that it is the combination of the ROM and particular hardware (which causes some weird stuff to happen, like my device's phone radio does not like Ivan's base)
What I recommend you do is contact all of the people who have been having issues with their batteries and find out:
What brand they have
What radio and bootloader versions they have
What particular version of the battery they have
The age of their device\battery
If you notice a correlation then thats something we can work with.
If you just claim "It the ROM" and the developers don't see any issue in their devices, then they will dismiss your claim.
(btw. I have no doubt that your battery is draining fast, you just shouldn't be so quick to blame the software. As I have said before, batteries have a complex mix of chemicals that store power, the reaction that occurs in these chemicals is affected by a lot of factors...)
Happy hunting!
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If it is the ROM, then why are only some people affected?
I will concede that it may be possible that it is the combination of the ROM and particular hardware (which causes some weird stuff to happen, like my device's phone radio does not like Ivan's base)
What I recommend you do is contact all of the people who have been having issues with their batteries and find out:
What brand they have
What radio and bootloader versions they have
What particular version of the battery they have
The age of their device\battery
If you notice a correlation then thats something we can work with.
If you just claim "It the ROM" and the developers don't see any issue in their devices, then they will dismiss your claim.
(btw. I have no doubt that your battery is draining fast, you just shouldn't be so quick to blame the software. As I have said before, batteries have a complex mix of chemicals that store power, the reaction that occurs in these chemicals is affected by a lot of factors...)
Happy hunting!
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Ooooh! Tedious job man!! As for points (1 & 4), it is out of our reach. Whereas points (2 & 3), then definitely it is the bootloader & radio! Do you notice that OEM providers -I expect so- thoroughly test their devices before releasing and many factors are considered out of which Radio & Bootloader are tested and then they RECOMMEND the combination of the appropriate radio & bootloader versions!
In this forum, or more specifically, the restless ones cant wait to retrieve feedback from the market with regards to upgrades!! Any radio version gets released, we upgrade! Any bootloader gets released, we upgrade, and then we start to nag and complaint!!
I have gut feeling it is surely the radio and the processing mechanism! I want someone who have used the Uni for PPc only and not turned the radio nor wifi for days and watched how the battery drains! If it did not affect, then bingo! Otherwise I do apologize for having misjudged.
Mind you, I have not got any TECHNICAL explanation on the hardware and processing power part
Cyber-mate said:
Ooooh! Tedious job man!! As for points (1 & 4), it is out of our reach. Whereas points (2 & 3), then definitely it is the bootloader & radio! Do you notice that OEM providers -I expect so- thoroughly test their devices before releasing and many factors are considered out of which Radio & Bootloader are tested and then they RECOMMEND the combination of the appropriate radio & bootloader versions!
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A more tedious job is to compare registry hives and files looking for a bug that doesn't affect your own device...
I don't see how points 1 & 4 are out of reach. If people just post here what brand (I-Mate, Dopod, O2, etc) thats number 1 solved. As for number 4, just remove the battery cover and look for the model number (for instance This one has the model number "PU16A") - again post results here
Cyber-mate said:
In this forum, or more specifically, the restless ones cant wait to retrieve feedback from the market with regards to upgrades!! Any radio version gets released, we upgrade! Any bootloader gets released, we upgrade, and then we start to nag and complaint!!
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Some people nag and complain, some people revert back to the old version and some people fix things. You have to ask yourself which one are you? And which one you should be...
Cyber-mate said:
I have gut feeling it is surely the radio and the processing mechanism! I want someone who have used the Uni for PPc only and not turned the radio nor wifi for days and watched how the battery drains! If it did not affect, then bingo! Otherwise I do apologize for having misjudged.
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Now this I like!!!
Good hypothesis, and a good test. Now all we need is someone to do the test.
Having thought of the above thing, can you see how it would be better to say to the develpers (and comminity) that devices made by xxxx running radio 1.xx have high battery drain...
The whole point of collecting statistics is to notice patterns. From these patterns we can derive hypothesis that can then be tested
Cyber-mate said:
Mind you, I have not got any TECHNICAL explanation on the hardware and processing power part
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Anything you would like to know, just ask!!
Whew Ask me mate
Suddenly my JJ which was working perfectly alright
Refuses to go beyond 40% battery life
And it could be coz i upgraded individually from here and there
I have decided I am goin for a new rom
and following the instructs to the letter
WIshing myself luck
AA
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i have dopod 900, Radio 1.15, bootloader 1.1
i first had battery shutdown @80% when i installed jw's rom no offense man, i've tried other WM6 Midget, PDAViet, Ivan's etc... and liked Helmi_c v1.1 (i tried battery drain and full recharge 4 times) but still experiencing shutdowns until i've installed Laurentius v4 i'm down to 25% battery consumption now and the battery drains ok. i still don't know if its the ff:
1.) the ROM
2.) maybe battery is healing itself...
3.) maybe this rom is just compatible with my device...
4.) maybe none of the above or all of the above
(of course i cannot account for other circumstances like weather change or airconditioning) good news is, i'm gonna buy bluetooth stereo headset instead of a new battery!
hope this helps
ethansun
almerchant said:
Suddenly my JJ which was working perfectly alright
Refuses to go beyond 40% battery life
And it could be coz i upgraded individually from here and there
I have decided I am goin for a new rom
and following the instructs to the letter
WIshing myself luck
AA
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...okay! I do not like this part to discredit anyone coz many of those ROM gurus have worked really hard and harder than one could imagine. ROM related battery drain is a very disappointing part.
I cant imagine that someone would pinpoint a particular ROM developed by xxx and say it is the culprit, which will lead to many -including myself- to despise that particular one!!
However, a constructive feedback and HONEST is the key. Let us wait -but not too long- and only YOU will tell us what is wrong
Awaiting...
Radio & drain!
Haven't anyone noticed that most members who have upgraded radio to 1.15 sent feedback that the signal is always full and no obvious issue to talk about!!
Well, the previous radio versions such as 1.14, 1.13, even 1.09 -which I liked then- had tremendous complaints about signal strength and other issues. Com'n people! It is definitely the radio and no one had talked about it.
While my device is on stand-by mode, it is suck up the battery power to compensate the signal weakness, therefore radio 1.15 being the best so far, is the lousiest in terms of power mngmt! I certainly have no technical evidence, yet it is left up to you to find out.
Please read my posting (#13, #14 & #18) again, especially #18
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306064&page=2&highlight=battery
How well Radio ROM performed is again very much depend on location and service provider, I can beg till my last dollar on this.
Anyway for me, I find that actually Radio 1.15.00 last longer than the previous Radios with the same battery, same M$ ROM. Although Radio 1.14.10 is not too bad.
Once again, please do not jump into conclusion like what I did before (which happen to be my first ever post in this forum) which will misled many people who are lazy to search and read through.
Cyber-mate said:
Haven't anyone noticed that most members who have upgraded radio to 1.15 sent feedback that the signal is always full and no obvious issue to talk about!!
Well, the previous radio versions such as 1.14, 1.13, even 1.09 -which I liked then- had tremendous complaints about signal strength and other issues. Com'n people! It is definitely the radio and no one had talked about it.
While my device is on stand-by mode, it is suck up the battery power to compensate the signal weakness, therefore radio 1.15 being the best so far, is the lousiest in terms of power mngmt! I certainly have no technical evidence, yet it is left up to you to find out.
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Well, I'm using 1.15 and it works fine. On top of that I live in a pretty remote place (being Australia and all), so my signal typically isn't too great...
Either way, statistically speaking, you need 30 data points (ie people) before you can claim anything. (Why 30? I don't know... But I almost had a Maths Degree from University (before switching to Computer Science) and thats what I was taught...)
Normally setting Radio to Manual instead of Auto and to GSM instead of 3G mode in weak signal area saves you significant battery drain (there is a technical explanation for this).
For me, I always set to GSM, only to 3G when needed, that is how I clocked 4 days with my battery "sometimes"
@TehPenguin
Err... Remote does not always equal bad signal. Some City area can have blind spots with weak signal too
TehPenguin said:
...you need 30 data points (ie people) before you can claim anything. (Why 30? I don't know... But I almost had a Maths Degree from University (before switching to Computer Science) and that's what I was taught...)
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Alright then. I am surely waiting for another 28 opinions (data points) and only then I/we can conclude.
TehPenguin/CWKJ, thanks for your contribution and making this debate a valuable one.
Cheers..
Nah, a poll for Radio ROM is meaningless as I repeat 1 more time that Radio Rom performance is depending on location and service provider.

1800mah Clove battery - first impressions

liamhere said:
im in hong kong soon so ill get a bigger and beter one then
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Why do you have to wait for Hong Kong?
Got my 1800mah battery through from Clove today and charged it up all last night.
First impressions:
The back is exactly the same design (including wobbly back) as the original just the sides are about twice the size i.e. "tall". If you look at the USB port on the back, the phone is now about this much again deep so, not that bad. I know feck all about battery technology but it does appear to me that there is a lot of wasted space now under the case.
The case itself also has an extended "peep hole" for the the camera to look out of. Initialy when you look at it, it doesn't seem wide enough for the camera but after testing I can only conclude it is as it does not affect camera operation.
The battery is a small chunky affair thats exactly the same shape as the original with about twice the depth. After a full charge last night, Batti 2.0 seems to tell me its only got around 95% charge. This could be for two reasons I guess? Batti is not designed to cope with 1800mah batteries and/or the battery will require further charges to come to max power. It of course adds a little weight but, at the moment i've not really noticed it.
All in all, so far, it seems a good purchase. Will let you know how performance is over today and tomorrow (btw, im a heavy user with push mail etc and also work in an office which has feck all signal - i.e. radio on full xmit all day).
Can you please take some pictures, so that all of know what to expect when we want to buy it too ?
Sorry yes, will do when I get home tonight.
Do you use any cases? If so, how does it fit there? Is it to big or so?
No I don't. The phone, even with this battery is still small enough to fit in most of my jeans pockets.
"Are you pleased to see me or is that phone in your pocket?"
image from clove
http://www.clove.co.uk/productimages/main/E9D71287-36BA-4BA4-85BE-3AAAFAAC0E3B.png
Monty Burns said:
Sorry yes, will do when I get home tonight.
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I look forward to your photos, I was looking at the clove one and some on ebay. Is that clove UK.
Dont know. This is the one I purchased but the picture looks nothing like it:
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct....&product=30EB1DEF-CE29-4EA5-B021-E151FCA14D73
How much time did it take before you got it since you ordered it? and where are you from?
And this is the case im thinking about buying
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000268&products_id=7644
But looks like it wont fit in there maybe.
I bought it direct from Clove on the link above. I ordered as a pre-order so it actually took around 10 days or so. I believe they have them in stock now so you should be looking at around 2 or 3 days I guess?
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Why do you have to wait for Hong Kong?
Got my 1800mah battery through from Clove today and charged it up all last night.
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I got it also from Clove. Have you tested GPS yet? My Diamond can't find any satellites with 1800mAh battery! Yesterday GPS worked fine with original battery! I can't test original battery now because I'm at work... I will test again original if I find way to my home!
Ouchies! That would be really bad if its the battery.
Sadly, I fecked around with my GPS settings and I can't find them on here anywhere to correct them so none of my GPS apps work. If someone could tell me which ports/baud rate etc I can try my GPS out here at work.
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Ouchies! That would be really bad if its the battery.
Sadly, I fecked around with my GPS settings and I can't find them on here anywhere to correct them so none of my GPS apps work. If someone could tell me which ports/baud rate etc I can try my GPS out here at work.
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COM4 Baudrate 4800 worked with original battery and with Radio v1.00.25.05 (COM4 and baudrate 19200 with Radio v1.00.25.03).
cheers, gimme 10 or 15 and i'll try it n get back to you.
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Just to confirm then
GPS Program Port = Com5 (or whatever, Just not com4?)
Hardware port = Com4, 19200 (im running .03)
and I tell google maps to use GPS settings, "set by Windows"?
Some Q's:
- How long does the full battery last? For example with GPS + screen on (with the 900 it will only last about 1.5h).
- Can someone measure how much thicker the device is with the new cover (original is almost 12mm and I really hope it does not add 6mm)?
- Do photos look better/worse with the new cover?
Thanks!
Monty Burns said:
cheers, gimme 10 or 15 and i'll try it n get back to you.
edit:
Just to confirm then
GPS Program Port = Com5 (or whatever, Just not com4?)
Hardware port = Com4, 19200 (im running .03)
and I tell google maps to use GPS settings, "set by Windows"?
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Looks like I have a far worse issue!
I try to use the GPS and it won't lock anything, google maps shows 0 satelites. I looked at Windows->Settings->GPS and it shows a Hardware port of "none" no matter how many times I change and OK it.
Any ideas?
Monty Burns said:
cheers, gimme 10 or 15 and i'll try it n get back to you.
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Just to confirm then
GPS Program Port = Com5 (or whatever, Just not com4?)
Hardware port = Com4, 19200 (im running .03)
and I tell google maps to use GPS settings, "set by Windows"?
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You don't have to change External GPS setting from Systems -> Setup. Only if you use External (Bluetooth) GPS! If you use internal Diamond GPS leave them default. In Google Maps tell it to use "set by Windows."
You can setup some (like Run.GPS Trainer UV) -programs manually if "set by Windows" don't work, these programs have own COM and baudrate setup to internal GPS.
Thanks. Just confirmed that with Google search. Looks like now i've played with them I will need a reboot. Will try again.
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I try to use the GPS and it won't lock anything, google maps shows 0 satelites. I looked at Windows->Settings->GPS and it shows a Hardware port of "none" no matter how many times I change and OK it.
Any ideas?
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I think you have same problem with 1800mAh battery. I beg that GPS works again with original battery!
from me
Originally Posted by liamhere
im in hong kong soon so ill get a bigger and beter one then
im a cheap cow.......mooooooo
and i can live with the battery for now
and ill just see what i can get while im there thats all

XDA Exec battery life - more than 14hrs req.d

Bit of a noob question for my first post - sorry
Bought myself an SPV M5000 (remember them??) running WM6... didn't realise how big this thing was till it turned up
Anyway - the issue - in standby alone I seem to be getting about a days worth of battery out of it before it dies. This is not acceptable.
Running radio version 1.18.00 (Dunno if the rest is important, but ROM 2.07.00 WWE, Protocol 42.54.P8)
Now I've found some archived threads about rolling the radio version back to help solve this - was 1.18.00 one of the problem versions (should have fixed it by now surely??) and if so, how far back should I be looking?
Anything I could/should try before this? and...being really lazy now...could anyone post/show me to an idiot's guide for doing this
Thanks (and I promise to contribute more on future posts...if I don't just bin this paperweight first)
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TllEWL said:
Bit of a noob question for my first post - sorry
Bought myself an SPV M5000 (remember them??) running WM6... didn't realise how big this thing was till it turned up
Anyway - the issue - in standby alone I seem to be getting about a days worth of battery out of it before it dies. This is not acceptable.
Running radio version 1.18.00 (Dunno if the rest is important, but ROM 2.07.00 WWE, Protocol 42.54.P8)
Now I've found some archived threads about rolling the radio version back to help solve this - was 1.18.00 one of the problem versions (should have fixed it by now surely??) and if so, how far back should I be looking?
Anything I could/should try before this? and...being really lazy now...could anyone post/show me to an idiot's guide for doing this
Thanks (and I promise to contribute more on future posts...if I don't just bin this paperweight first)
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Welcome to the forum
I would recommend you to enter to Universal forum and read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=267448
I have heard that some radios drain the battery fastet than others, I´m using 1.08 and my original battery from 2005 last me day and a half using a lot of calls and some BT and WIFI
Good luck and don´t forget to vote!
OMG! Soo much information
Thanks for the steer to the Universal section (may have found that eventually, but god knows how long it would have taken)
3hrs later, I think I've established that although I don't have the randomly dying battery (still going at .... 21%) Radio 1.18 works for others, so I probably do need a new battery - the phone's still got its protective screen covers on it, but that's not to say that the battery was new.
I'll switch back to my Treo (7days+ with use) for now and just use the brick for the SatNav till I get a new battery.
Don't think I'm gonna be able to spare the time to read up on how to do all this flashing stuff safely so hope the new battery works
TllEWL said:
OMG! Soo much information
Thanks for the steer to the Universal section (may have found that eventually, but god knows how long it would have taken)
3hrs later, I think I've established that although I don't have the randomly dying battery (still going at .... 21%) Radio 1.18 works for others, so I probably do need a new battery - the phone's still got its protective screen covers on it, but that's not to say that the battery was new.
I'll switch back to my Treo (7days+ with use) for now and just use the brick for the SatNav till I get a new battery.
Don't think I'm gonna be able to spare the time to read up on how to do all this flashing stuff safely so hope the new battery works
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Yes a new battery is the best solution, try to get the original!
On Universal forum there is a member called Dukenukem that sells the original ones at good price
You actually don´t have to spend so much hours reading and it´s worth!
Cheers and don,t forget to vote!
TllEWL said:
Bit of a noob question for my first post - sorry
Bought myself an SPV M5000 (remember them??) running WM6... didn't realise how big this thing was till it turned up
Anyway - the issue - in standby alone I seem to be getting about a days worth of battery out of it before it dies. This is not acceptable.
Running radio version 1.18.00 (Dunno if the rest is important, but ROM 2.07.00 WWE, Protocol 42.54.P8)
Now I've found some archived threads about rolling the radio version back to help solve this - was 1.18.00 one of the problem versions (should have fixed it by now surely??) and if so, how far back should I be looking?
Anything I could/should try before this? and...being really lazy now...could anyone post/show me to an idiot's guide for doing this
Thanks (and I promise to contribute more on future posts...if I don't just bin this paperweight first)
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First: Yes Exec is a brick and Since I have it, I have given up to carry my 45 Magnum. HTC Universal (Exec) can do the same job
Be Frank IMHO Exec had never good battery live.. I hear some people saying they can last 1-3 days with it, but in my case: Push mail 80-100 mails, calls, a lot reminders and PIM use it has never lasted full one day.
My suggestion to stretch your battery live:
1) Low Phone Signal increase the power connection:
2) Radio Version depends on your service provider or Country.. In some countrys or locations the 118 has no problem but in others it leads to high power consumption or even device freezes. The best thing you can do is try different version and observe your phone Signal; call Quality and Battery live. Here you can find most Radio versions to download: http://vidmes.com/xda/Uni/Radios/
3) Changing frequent location (Driving) also decrease Battery live.
4) Set your Phone Band Manually to GSM or 3G dont use the setting "Auto"
5) Set your backlight settings to min brightness. ( in my case only to first line!!! Lower then that is Darkness)
6) Set Your Beam off to Incoming Beams
8) Backlight Time.. Set to min time ( in my case is 1min after that bcklight goes off)
9)Turn off device if not used... (In my case time: 1 min)
10) Find the Right ROM.. According my experiences some ROMs have high CPU usage.. even though nothing is active but CPU is running high. In most cases Shell32.exe leading to high CPU. ( My current ROM is Tomal 8.5 standard. very happy with it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=454906 )
11) If you don’t use push mail or don’t Sync. Kill the process repllog.exe. Again in Some ROM the Activesync. runs even though there is nothing to sync. (Push mail or Desktop Sync.) That leads additional CPU usage and also unnecessarily memory consumption.
At the end you will find out that you might need one more spare battery or one with higher capacity as it has been discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432099.
Furthermore if you plan to carry the exec on your belt you may also need one of these:http://www.suspenderstore.com/susu60.html
Bulldog said:
Furthermore if you plan to carry the exec on your belt you may also need one of these:http://www.suspenderstore.com/susu60.html
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Oh boy, that link does not carry well across the water, it conjures up totally different images here in the UK.
deedee said:
Oh boy, that link does not carry well across the water, it conjures up totally different images here in the UK.
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It was not my attention to indicate to the guys with less hair.. it should be protection for not losing his pants.
Bulldog said:
It was not my attention to indicate to the guys with less hair.. it should be protection for not losing his pants.
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Has to be said that comparison isn't a huge amount better, , UK pants are under garments, the outer ones are trousers.
And i am missing the guys with less hair connection, suspenders in the UK are a female lingerie item.
deedee said:
Has to be said that comparison isn't a huge amount better, , UK pants are under garments, the outer ones are trousers.
And i am missing the guys with less hair connection, suspenders in the UK are a female lingerie item.
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Thanks for the “Pants” correction in British English.
According the Dictionary it seems in American English meaning of Pants can be also trousers. But hey how I would know..English is just my 4th language.
However Somehow I start to miss your connection to female lingerie items. Frankly speaking it appears to me that you did not see the suspender pictures in the link that I have given or else you would have seen those are the one of two straps worn over the shoulders to hold up trousers (pants). I believe to have seen that such suspender are also worn by Skinheads which some call them “the guys with less hair”
In Order to make it short, I suggest after you seen the pictures in the link, if you would still insist that such suspenders are in UK under the category lingerie items then I might need talk to the Web Company that sells those. They have somehow categorised that suspender under “BIG & TALL GUYS suspenders”????
Anyhow you have a Great day
I didi look at the link and hence my comments, i had missed the reference to skinheads, what is being sold as suspenders are called braces in the UK.
deedee said:
Has to be said that comparison isn't a huge amount better, , UK pants are under garments, the outer ones are trousers.
And i am missing the guys with less hair connection, suspenders in the UK are a female lingerie item.
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hello deedee one simple question for you. Which UK online store has best range of lingerie items? I hope you will post some quick reply. Thanks in advance

[Q] Galaxy S II Battery Problem

Hey everyone, I need some help here.
A friend of mine bought a Galaxy S II about 5 days ago.
Her problem is that her battery lasts for like half a day. The only thing she has turned on is mobile network (3g). No wifi, no bluetooth or anything else. She has installed several applications, but nothing too extreme.
What could be the reason? And how is this solvable?
I was thinking of calibrating the battery, and if the problem persists, take it to replace.
The main problem is that it is not sure whether they are going to replace it, since when she was looking to buy it, she could barely find it, and the one shop that had it said that it was the last one they had on stock. They all said that Samsung had stopped producing models and, thus, they had none left.
Roflwat said:
Hey everyone, I need some help here.
A friend of mine bought a Galaxy S II about 5 days ago.
Her problem is that her battery lasts for like half a day. The only thing she has turned on is mobile network (3g). No wifi, no bluetooth or anything else. She has installed several applications, but nothing too extreme.
What could be the reason? And how is this solvable?
I was thinking of calibrating the battery, and if the problem persists, take it to replace.
The main problem is that it is not sure whether they are going to replace it, since when she was looking to buy it, she could barely find it, and the one shop that had it said that it was the last one they had on stock. They all said that Samsung had stopped producing models and, thus, they had none left.
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this may not be a problem of faulty battery in the first place. try changing few things (lowering the brightness, switching off all the radios when not in use etc) and see if that improves the battery life. if it doesn't, then approach the service center, they will get it replaced. hope it helps
If it is actually a hardware problem, will it be a battery problem? Or a problem with the device itself?
Could be some rogue apps. GO Launcher and GO Locker can cause this if not set up properly. Coupled with with poor internet coverage if your 3g is poor, can cause the phone to continuously fail at synching and not preventing it to sleep well.
Uninstall programs you suspect are causing your phone to turn on periodically or check the battery power usage in settings to see which apps are draining the battery the most.
If still troublesome install Better Battery Stats from the forum which can give you more detail as to the cause of battery drain.
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Roflwat said:
If it is actually a hardware problem, will it be a battery problem? Or a problem with the device itself?
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We're you able to solve the problem and did my advice help? Thanks for giving me my first thanks.
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