Hello all -
I am getting my Tilt from AT&T tomorrow and I've been reading like crazy on this forum + wiki in preparation of getting it. Thanks to everyone who has contributed - awesome resource!
I understand the idea of flashing ROMS, unlocking, and general tweaking - I massively hacking/tweak my Tivo, etc. and I'm pretty sure I can get through it. But, I still have one question:
What, exactly, is the advantage of the HTC rom over the AT&T Tilt rom? I have never see the HTC rom but it looks like I can avoid the bloatware and add/tweak to my Tilt to make it similar to the HTC.
So, what exactly is on (or not on) the HTC rom that makes everyone want to switch away from the Tilt rom? What does the HTC rom have that the AT&T rom can't have???
Also: I have noticed some posts about battery life being different with different roms. I assumed that battery life would result from the way the varoius settings/options are set, but maybe I am not getting this.
I have read around on the forum quite a bit and I am understanding most of the nitty gritty details about these issues, but I'm a little unclear on what the problem is with the AT&T rom in the first place!
Any advice apreciated!! thanks - Dave
I get my Tilt Tuesday and am wondering what the "bottom line" is on this as well. It seems by removing bloatware, and installing a few cabs, you pretty much get a Kaiser. Speed and battery life are concerns for me though and if either is poor, I'm pretty comfortable installing a ROM (did it previously on my Wizard). Thanks to all for all the good info and advice. I've read way too much considering I don't even have the phone yet.
Hopefully we'll get an answer. On another forum I've read that you can install cabs to make the Tilt like the HTC, but on another thread I read that the HTC rom is different and better!
I'm not seeing any major disadvantages from using the HTC rom, actually, besides the menu problems which evidently have a fix. So, it might be worth a shot.
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dhecker said:
Hello all -
I am getting my Tilt from AT&T tomorrow and I've been reading like crazy on this forum + wiki in preparation of getting it. Thanks to everyone who has contributed - awesome resource!
I understand the idea of flashing ROMS, unlocking, and general tweaking - I massively hacking/tweak my Tivo, etc. and I'm pretty sure I can get through it. But, I still have one question:
What, exactly, is the advantage of the HTC rom over the AT&T Tilt rom? I have never see the HTC rom but it looks like I can avoid the bloatware and add/tweak to my Tilt to make it similar to the HTC.
So, what exactly is on (or not on) the HTC rom that makes everyone want to switch away from the Tilt rom? What does the HTC rom have that the AT&T rom can't have???
Also: I have noticed some posts about battery life being different with different roms. I assumed that battery life would result from the way the varoius settings/options are set, but maybe I am not getting this.
I have read around on the forum quite a bit and I am understanding most of the nitty gritty details about these issues, but I'm a little unclear on what the problem is with the AT&T rom in the first place!
Any advice apreciated!! thanks - Dave
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custom roms base on htc releases have many advantages:
1- get rid of all junk and restrictions of at&t one
2- reg hacks and fixes that take the most out of your phone
3- many more advantages but if numbered here will take me all night
search in these forum and you get many other reasons to change. For example i bought the tilt and in the same day i unlock it due a hardspl and change the rom to a custom one and beleive i will never come back to at&t stock rom.
I was in your guys shoes too. I read a ton on this forum before I got the phone. Here is my advice having had 2 Tilts, first one I had for a week, then returned it till I got a better deal.
When you first start the phone you go through a quick WM6 setup. After that it will say "Customizing Device" and there will be a progress bar. When this starts reset the phone with the stylus into the small hole at the bottom. That will prevent a lot of the ATT bloatware from loading.
Try that for a week, and if it isn't broke then don't fix it.
That said, there are a lot of HTC apps I love. Keep in mind you don't need a new rom to install them.
I would only try new ROMs if one or more of the following apply:
1) You are having some issues with stability or speed.
2) You need more space on the main memory.
3) You are lazy and want to try some other premade package.
Basically all the roms I tried are not that different then the stock ATT rom without the "Customizations" bloatware install. Plus you can get the phone to the exact same level by installing apps and doing small tweaks. Its not night and day or anything dramatic. However its fun to try new things and tweak the phone, thats one of the reasons I got it.
Here are my Must Have applications.
HTC Home
HTC Audio Manager
KaiserTweak
HTC Task Manager
Opera Mini Beta 4
Google Maps
Windows Live
Pops_G said:
I was in your guys shoes too. I read a ton on this forum before I got the phone. Here is my advice having had 2 Tilts, first one I had for a week, then returned it till I got a better deal.
When you first start the phone you go through a quick WM6 setup. After that it will say "Customizing Device" and there will be a progress bar. When this starts reset the phone with the stylus into the small hole at the bottom. That will prevent a lot of the ATT bloatware from loading.
Try that for a week, and if it isn't broke then don't fix it.
That said, there are a lot of HTC apps I love. Keep in mind you don't need a new rom to install them.
I would only try new ROMs if one or more of the following apply:
1) You are having some issues with stability or speed.
2) You need more space on the main memory.
3) You are lazy and want to try some other premade package.
Basically all the roms I tried are not that different then the stock ATT rom without the "Customizations" bloatware install. Plus you can get the phone to the exact same level by installing apps and doing small tweaks. Its not night and day or anything dramatic. However its fun to try new things and tweak the phone, thats one of the reasons I got it.
Here are my Must Have applications.
HTC Home
HTC Audio Manager
KaiserTweak
HTC Task Manager
Opera Mini Beta 4
Google Maps
Windows Live
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Pops, thanks for your informative reply. Is there really ANYTHING that the HTC rom can do that couldn't be somehow configured into the AT&T rom? I don't really mind flashing to a new rom but if I can start with the Tilt rom and configure everything I need (even if it takes a while ) that might be fine.
Am I correct in understanding that TouchFlo can work just fine on the AT&T rom? There are mixed messages about that.
Also, does any of this have anything to do with battery life??
thanks!
It all comes down to preferrences. I have a Tilt, and I have installed just about every ROM available here. I keep going back to HTC oriented ROMS, but there is some drawback in that you have to "tweak" it a bit usually to get full AT&T usability. AT&T ROMS are good for staying "true" to the carrier's mindset, but usually are buggy or slower. Dutty's right now is my fav, but that could change
Battery life is best controlled with 2 applications, both the Kaiser Tweak program, and with a good comm manager program to disable comm when not in use. Or at least move between 2G and 3G connections. 3G is awesome fast, but a hugh battery drain.
Thanks for your input! I played with a Tllt for a while and the AT&T rom might have been slower (I don't know cause I've never seen the HTC!) but it was totally stable as far as I could tell. Is there some specific bugginess that you saw or are you just referring to the general sloppiness of the AT&T bundles, etc.?
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Pops, thanks for your informative reply. Is there really ANYTHING that the HTC rom can do that couldn't be somehow configured into the AT&T rom? I don't really mind flashing to a new rom but if I can start with the Tilt rom and configure everything I need (even if it takes a while ) that might be fine.
Am I correct in understanding that TouchFlo can work just fine on the AT&T rom? There are mixed messages about that.
Also, does any of this have anything to do with battery life??
thanks!
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No, there is nothing you cannot do with the AT&T rom given enough time and tweaking. Before I got my phone I some how got the impression ROMs where almost like a different animal. I think a better analogy would be comparing them to a house with furniture. The different ROMs are just different styles.
But if you are a real power user, and it sounds like you are, I would just use another ROM and start from there. You will save some time. I'm a fan of the "clean" ROMs that some with almost nothing installed. Then I build them up from there. They are very easy to install if you read the instructions. And it only takes like 10-15 mins max.
Pops - That last comment was interesting. I can totally see the advantage of installing a lite rom or for that matter, a fully loaded Dutty's rom, etc. My concern was that if I did that, I'd actually wind up having to tweak for a while to get things smooth on the Tilt since I wouldn't be using the 'stock' rom. The assumption is the everything would work on day 1 with the stock rom, so I can tweak but I never have to really get things going.
In your experience, if I installed the most recent version of Dutty's Hybrid Kaiser TouchFlo Final (if I'm gonna flash the rom, I might as well load it up) that things would be about as stable/easy as if I spent time customized the AT&T rom?
If there's not too much risk or BS I might just go for it! There is something about keeping the original rom that makes me feel more confident, but it's also fun to tweak on the thing!
Well there are two types of Kaisers right now. The original HTC branded one and the Tilt. They are different in 2 ways. For the Tilt, some roms require you to install a keyboard fix for a minor adjustment. Also you have to configure the AT&T internet settings. It depends on the ROM. Some of the ROMs are already designed for the Tilt.
To answer your question, yes some of these ROMs can have you up and running without any tweaking or adjustments at all. Just read their instructions, it varies for each one.
For me, if I start with a stripped down ROM it takes me about 2 hours or more to install all of my apps and tweaks. For the fully featured ROMs like Dutty's, you can be ready to go in 20-30mins.
I installed the HTC stock ROM on my Tilt for the same reason I install reference drivers for my video card:
1. They are more true to the manufacturer's specifications.
2. There are more frequent and faster updates available.
Number 2 was the most important for me, even though HTC has not released an updated ROM yet...but when they do, I know that I can install it and it will be closer to what I have been using.
I had the Tilt ROM installed for a few weeks before I reverted to the HTC ROM. I also installed the HTC customizations on the Tilt ROM and played with that for a while. I noticed slight differences between the applications like the HTC Home application UI behavour has minor differences. There was also more available memory on the HTC ROM from the Tilt ROM even after I cancelled the Tilt customizations from installing.
Oh here is a neat program to help you test different ROMs without losing your contacts, SMS, call history etc.
PIM Backup
Have to throw my 2 cents in also.
Just got the Tilt last month,and after my initial fear of flashing(and succesfully installing HARDSPL) I've flashed lots of these ROM's too. I however, have to agree with Pops_G, the best solution I've found has been a "clean ROM" and customize it the way I want. I prefer the ATT versions over the monochrome/big clock/UGLY UI that the Kaiser ones have. I've been using Kyphur's Tilt XDA-Live v1.1 and love it. It provides the most storage of ANY of the custom ROMs and has the newest radio also. It shows a significant difference in my area;where the signal borders on weak.
Alemaker
Ok, these kinds of opinions and comments are really helping out. I think I'm gonna do this:
1) When the Tilt comes (today!) I'll play with the AT&T stock ROM for a while and get a feel for it.
2) Then, I'm going to flash Dutty's ROM - it has just about everything and it will give me a chance to look at everything from the Cube to the HTC apps and everything else. In general, I like to strip things out of my systems rather than bloat it out, but this sounds like an easy way to check it all out in one go.
3) Most likely I'll be want to install Tilt XDA Lite once I've had a chance to fool around with the others. With a clean start like that I can install the apps I want and get the thing fast/stable for good.
Sounds like fun! Here I go..
dhecker said:
Ok, these kinds of opinions and comments are really helping out. I think I'm gonna do this:
1) When the Tilt comes (today!) I'll play with the AT&T stock ROM for a while and get a feel for it.
2) Then, I'm going to flash Dutty's ROM - it has just about everything and it will give me a chance to look at everything from the Cube to the HTC apps and everything else. In general, I like to strip things out of my systems rather than bloat it out, but this sounds like an easy way to check it all out in one go.
3) Most likely I'll be want to install Tilt XDA Lite once I've had a chance to fool around with the others. With a clean start like that I can install the apps I want and get the thing fast/stable for good.
Sounds like fun! Here I go..
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Give yourself some time with each Rom (a few days) to really get a feel for it. Also know that your battery is going to be crap for a couple of weeks until it is properly "conditioned" so don't even include that in your comparison.
Another thing you need to consider what are you looking to gain from using a cooked rom? While it can be nice to have a lot of apps mixed in once there is a new version of an app you have to either flash an updated rom or install the update over the cooked version in which case you are now losing memory as the files in the rom can't really be deleted (only marked as such)...
kypher: Thanks for your input. I am interest in your comment about having apps in the rom, space, etc.
Am I understanding that when there are apps built into the rom, those apps can't really be updated/upgraded/(deleted?) without reflashing the rom?
So, with a stripped down rom could a user install the various apps and have the ability to upgrade/uninstall/delete those apps whenever they wanted to?
That seems like a major advantage to using a lite rom then building it up on your own, which is looking more and more like the way to go! Any clarification appreciated.
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Am I understanding that when there are apps built into the rom, those apps can't really be updated/upgraded/(deleted?) without reflashing the rom?
So, with a stripped down rom could a user install the various apps and have the ability to upgrade/uninstall/delete those apps whenever they wanted to?
That seems like a major advantage to using a lite rom then building it up on your own, which is looking more and more like the way to go! Any clarification appreciated.
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Technically you can update (or even delete) the apps that are cooked in BUT... you've already paid in storage space for the files. When you upgrade the cooked files are marked as deleted so the files from the cab can overwrite them BUT... the files can't actually be deleted so if you have a 4MB program (like MS Voice Command) cooked in and you get an upgrade then you are actually paying 8MB of storage for the program now.
In short, even though the files are marked as deleted and you phone acts like they are deleted, you can't recover the memory they used if the files are cooked into the Rom. This is the primary reason I'm stripping XDA Live down as close to the undershorts as I can.
Well, the phone came this afternoon and I've been fooling around with it ever since. So far, so good!
I like the AT&T Tilt setup a lot. But, being a long-time geek I just couldn't resist and now I'm flashing Dutty's Tilt Rom. I'll play with that for a while, then maybe think about a long-term setup. It's kind of nice being able to flash the rom as I don't have to worry too much about screwing up the configuration since I can reflash at any time.
much fun! thanks everyone
I would like to try different ROMs as well, but I would like to be able to go back to ATT Tilt ROM if need be. How can I backup my original ATT ROM, so that I can flash back to it, if I needed to?
Like the title says I am new to the Mytouch. I rooted my Sprint Hero about a month ago and I love what I was able to get out of it. My girlfriend seeing my happiness with it has since asked me if it would make her Mytouch run better. So basically she wants me to root her phone and add a good ROM. I have herard of cyanogen and all but what would be a good daily Rom for her. Just something quicker and better on battery. I know what setcpu can do for my phone. But whats the best for a MyTouch3g? Thank you in advance.
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Like the title says I am new to the Mytouch. I rooted my Sprint Hero about a month ago and I love what I was able to get out of it. My girlfriend seeing my happiness with it has since asked me if it would make her Mytouch run better. So basically she wants me to root her phone and add a good ROM. I have herard of cyanogen and all but what would be a good daily Rom for her. Just something quicker and better on battery. I know what setcpu can do for my phone. But whats the best for a MyTouch3g? Thank you in advance.
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Depends how she uses her phone... what firmware she wants (1.6 or 2.1) and either Vanilla Donut or s Sense rom
Needs more details on exactly which MyTouch 3G it is, as right now there's 4 variants
- MyTouch 3G (v1) with 32B SPL (aka Magic 32B)
- MyTouch 3G (v1) with 32A SPL (aka Magic 32A)
- MyTouch 3G LE (Limited Edition Fender, 32A)
- MyTouch 3G 1.2 (32A with headphone jack)
The last two are essentially identical, and are currently the only two MyTouch 3Gs actively sold (other than any old stock of the v1), but is also the only ones that has no real custom roms, if you want to root the last two you have to read very carefully which procedure you're using since its not the same ones as the Magic 32B/A. For example the only real working rooting process is linked in my signature for the last two and currently limited to the stock rom as being the fully functional one.
As you're probably already aware with your Sprint phone... you shouldn't just blindly flash radios/boots etc as you find them cuz it wouldn't be hard at all to brick the Fender or MyTouch 3G 1.2, by flashing a radio intended for the older MyTouches (ie: any thread that talks about Magic 32A or 32B)
I would be looking for a 1.6 build. I wanna give her something daily/stable and usable. Vanilla is fine seeing thats what she is used to. I duno what version of the MYTouch it is I know its not a Fender and it doesnt have the 3.5 mm headphone jack. When she bought it it was 1.5 and like a day later it upped to 1.6. Like with my phone I am doing my research. Dont wanna brick her phone. She would kill me and cut me in my sleep.
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I would be looking for a 1.6 build. I wanna give her something daily/stable and usable. Vanilla is fine seeing thats what she is used to. I duno what version of the MYTouch it is I know its not a Fender and it doesnt have the 3.5 mm headphone jack. When she bought it it was 1.5 and like a day later it upped to 1.6. Like with my phone I am doing my research. Dont wanna brick her phone. She would kill me and cut me in my sleep.
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Since it doesn't have the 3.5mm headphone jack on top, it would be the original MyTouch 3G, which leaves you a lot of options both 32A and 32B (though you'll see a lot more choices including Cyanogenmod for 32B).
If she were to downgrade back to the 1.5 rom, I think CM has a one-click-rooting capability.
Instructions can be found here. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_MT3G/Magic_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod
After completion should have a rooted 1.6 cyanogenmod rom.
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Like the title says I am new to the Mytouch. I rooted my Sprint Hero about a month ago and I love what I was able to get out of it. My girlfriend seeing my happiness with it has since asked me if it would make her Mytouch run better. So basically she wants me to root her phone and add a good ROM. I have herard of cyanogen and all but what would be a good daily Rom for her. Just something quicker and better on battery. I know what setcpu can do for my phone. But whats the best for a MyTouch3g? Thank you in advance.
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I would be looking for a 1.6 build. I wanna give her something daily/stable and usable. Vanilla is fine seeing thats what she is used to. I duno what version of the MYTouch it is I know its not a Fender and it doesnt have the 3.5 mm headphone jack. When she bought it it was 1.5 and like a day later it upped to 1.6. Like with my phone I am doing my research. Dont wanna brick her phone. She would kill me and cut me in my sleep.
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In that case i think Cyanogen is perfect because it's stable and usually gets updated every month or so and not all the time every week got to flash a new update with new problems
First let me start by saying hello to everyone and how much i love this website for its plethora of information!! I am have attempted for 6 hours today in attempt to fix my problem and will only post a thread as last resort. I have reached my last resort. Here is how it all started....
Today i decided that i wanted to have the new updated Android Market so i could pay for apps using my tmo account. i noticed that my cyanogen 4.2.15.1 and the previous ones before do not use the updated market (from what i have found, it causes some problem), but i was unable to find a way to just update the market. i have also been toying with the idea of switching roms (i have used cyanogen since i rooted my phone almost a year ago) and was thinking of a super fast Hero rom. From my research, i found one that i thought was the best of the best. getting in a little over my head and doing the proper research and educating myself, i jumped in (not a normal move for me, i tend to collect as much info as i can before a make this type of move but i was work and bored ). so i downloaded and flashed a new rom. here are a few things i did wrong:
I did not wipe before i updated to the new rom
I mistakenly flashed a Hero rom for a 32A phone, thinking mine was 32a (idiot)
I did not change my radio or spl's (from what i am now reading, that was a big mistake too)
so, obviously, the rom did not take and it froze on the green mytouch 3g screen for 40 minutes. no big deal, i thought a would just wipe it, then try again. same result. ok, i will just restore to my nandroid backup........unable to restore . panic started creeping in. ok, i will just redownload the 4.2.15.1 cyanogen i had and WIPE and flash it. after attempting this many many times, it still freezes on the green mytouch 3g screen. i even thought of using an older cyanogen, 4.2.9.1 i believe, thinking they use old info that was still on my phone. no luck. i have a feeling i am missing something very obvious and will feel totally stupid when you guys help me, but, i am stuck.
I would love to have a kick ass Hero rom and if someone can explain to me the proper way of doing so with a recommendation of the most kick assey one, that would be greatly appreciated, or if someone can kindly assist me to get back to my original cyanogen rom, that would also rock. thank you in advance and i know you guys will make whole again!
ok first let me state that this is my 4th tp2 (sprint) first one tilt screen was defective so I sent it back,the second one I dropped and sent it back and the third one was fine until I started downloading apps.Now the apps that i had on it were cookies home tab & cht editor,skyfire browsers,ignima barcode,talkonaut,google maps and a few others from windows marketplace my phone is running wm 6.5 .So my phone kept rebooting and when the phone would go into sleep mode I would press the button the phone wouldn't come out of sleep mode the only way would be to make a phone call to it to wake it up.So I took it back to Sprint and they gave me a new one allegedly??? So I waited like 3 days before installing the same apps and about two days later same issues happened after I installed the same apps.I did a hard reset and took all apps out and the issues still arise any solutions ????? I haven't put any of the apps back yet but I want to should I run them through my computers anti-virus
Let me say also I still have faith in this phone but if I can't download apps without it doing crazy things such as rebooting and going into some kind of hard sleep mode what good is it and also I didnt mention with those apps listed in my previous post it made my phone a lot slower.I want to stay with this phone but that Evo 4g is looking temptiing now wm 6.5 users where are you ??????
of course anything you add may slow your phone down. All phones are like this. The more you have running the slower it will be. Sounds like you need a custom rom with the apps you installed.
where can I get a custom rom from and how does it differ from wm 6.5 & sense 2.5?
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where can I get a custom rom from and how does it differ from wm 6.5 & sense 2.5?
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If you are on sprint or vzw, check here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=98
If you are on tmob or att check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=490
Custom ROMs can have any combination of WM 6.1, 6.5, or 6.5.X and Sense 2.1 or 2.5.
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If you are on sprint or vzw, check here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=98
If you are on tmob or att check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=490
Custom ROMs can have any combination of WM 6.1, 6.5, or 6.5.X and Sense 2.1 or 2.5.
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umm i thought you couldnt flash gsm roms on cdma???better make it clear or he may brick ithe said he has sprint
I just got a Sprint HTC Touch Pro 2. I know, I'm late to the party.
Have a memory question: Using Task Manager - Viewing Processes I see Device.exe is/was using over 12 MB of memory. I did a soft reset and then Device.exe shows 8.85. What kind of foolishness is going on and can anything be done to prevent squandering of precious memory?
Also when I added up all the memory in processes there is a difference of about 45 MB between what the memory adds up to in processes and what Task Manager shows in Program Memory. Who stole the 45 MB?
Using Windows 6.5 with HTC Sense 2.5 and CHT(Cookies Home Tab) 1.85 which is the best theme I've ever used. Also Duttys Task Manager is a cab I couldn't do without.
I chose CHT over SPB Mobile Shell although I do miss a couple of the SPB widgets.
I had thought of an answer for you but my memory isn't what it used to be.
But seriously, try a rom without 2.5 and CHT and you'll be surprised how much memory you have. I suggest using a rom with Sense 2.1 or Rhodium Manila.
Mr. horndoctor: Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I don't/can't flash. Tried..failed..gave up.
By the way, did you belong to the HTC Touch forum? I think there was a horndoctor that was there.
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Mr. horndoctor: Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I don't/can't flash. Tried..failed..gave up.
By the way, did you belong to the HTC Touch forum? I think there was a horndoctor that was there.
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Yep, that's me!
I suggest flashing back to the Sprint 6.1 shipped rom. I personally use it. Even though it doesn't have all the eye candy that other roms have it is stable and works great. You don't have to be unlocked to flash it just download it to your pc, sync with your device and click on the exe to flash it. In my opinion, there are a lot of problems with the Sprint shipped 6.5 rom.
Thanks for the insight.
Could you elaborate about what you think are some of the issues?
I've had a few Touch Pro 2's and the first 2 locked up a lot but the one I have now hasn't locked up yet (about a week).
Other then that no real problems.
I wanted the 6.1 memory manager and I got that. I went back and forth between SPB Mobile Shell and HTC Sense but with the Cookie Home Tab theme I really am very pleased with it now. I would like to have the birthday/anniversary widget that is build into MS because it is so fast but I have settled for ManilaBirthday.cab.
If you know of a similar program to ManilaBirthday but is fast I'd like to try it.
If you haven't checked out CHT you really should. Nicest most powerful theme I've ever seen and so far very stable.
By the way I read a lot of your posts from the Touch Forum and got a lot of help from you. Thanks for that too.
jimt007 said:
Thanks for the insight.
Could you elaborate about what you think are some of the issues?
I've had a few Touch Pro 2's and the first 2 locked up a lot but the one I have now hasn't locked up yet (about a week).
Other then that no real problems.
I wanted the 6.1 memory manager and I got that. I went back and forth between SPB Mobile Shell and HTC Sense but with the Cookie Home Tab theme I really am very pleased with it now. I would like to have the birthday/anniversary widget that is build into MS because it is so fast but I have settled for ManilaBirthday.cab.
If you know of a similar program to ManilaBirthday but is fast I'd like to try it.
If you haven't checked out CHT you really should. Nicest most powerful theme I've ever seen and so far very stable.
By the way I read a lot of your posts from the Touch Forum and got a lot of help from you. Thanks for that too.
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You're very welcome! It makes me feel good that my efforts might have helped you in any way.
The Sprint 6.5 shipped TP2 rom is based on an early build of 6.5 with Sense 2.5 that has proved to be buggy and very ram hungry. I just don't recommend it but if you are running fine on it then just go with it. You can always flash later to a different rom.
Good Luck!