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SORRY I LEFT OUT Q-MOBILE! If you're using it or another unlisted custom ROM, just choose "other" and then post below to specify which ROM you're using.
In fact, even if you choose a specific "chef," please specify WHICH version/variation you're using and WHY.
I'm currently on Dutty #6 - tried #7, but I didn't find it quite as good. Waiting for 8! I might try other people's ROMs at some point, but that's partly why I asked this question - I want to know whose ROMs are most popular and why. Fast? Stable? Clean? Useful?
Dutty's Rom
I am using Dutty's Tilt Rom...uh on my tilt. It seems very stable and I have a bunch of apps running. It's been about 2 weeks and so far so good.
The only problem with loading one of dutty's rom's is that he never sleeps so you get addicted to flashing your Kaiser.: eek:
jollyroger973 said:
I am using Dutty's Tilt Rom...uh on my tilt. It seems very stable and I have a bunch of apps running. It's been about 2 weeks and so far so good.
The only problem with loading one of dutty's rom's is that he never sleeps so you get addicted to flashing your Kaiser.: eek:
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I've got to agree with you... I'm addicted now. But which version are you using?
I'm using Dutty's latest No. 7. For me, his ROMs have been very stable and fast.
XDA Live v1.2. I like the design goal of maximizing storage space and only installing what I want. It's almost like cooking my own rom, but much easier.
I'm using Dutty's No. 6 Lite HTC ROM.
I always want to have a clean, fast and stable ROM. I was running CUSTEL v2.1 first, but decided to turn to Dutty's ROMs because he has LOTS of updates! (I like flashing )
Maybe (if possible) you should add Q-Mobile ROM to the poll! I looks like an interesting ROM.
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Maybe (if possible) you should add Q-Mobile ROM to the poll!
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Dangit - won't let me change it. I just noticed that myself. I guess people will have to choose "other" and type it in. I'd hate to start the poll over. :-/ Can a mod step in and help out?
Sorry Q!!!
Dutty's ATT touchflow ROM.
Full featured, has many of the extras already built in, minus that AT&T bloat crap. It runs very well for me.
drokkon said:
Dangit - won't let me change it. I just noticed that myself. I guess people will have to choose "other" and type it in. I'd hate to start the poll over. :-/ Can a mod step in and help out?
Sorry Q!!!
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No problem, besides...having just posted it last night the adoption rate would take a while anyway--and thats assuming people like it.
Was using Dutty's Tilt-Touchflo Beta but I ran into some issues and now I'm trying out Q's. Looks good so far, fast, stable.
XDA-Live 1.2 for me. It's very stable, everything works like it's supposed to, and I like how streamlined and fast it is. I wanted an ATT Tilt specific ROM, and of those choices, this one works the smoothest. I like to be able to customize what apps are on there too.
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Maybe (if possible) you should add Q-Mobile ROM to the poll! I looks like an interesting ROM.
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Agreed. This is my current cooked ROM of choice after using 5 superb ROMS. Check it out. Simple, lightweight, fast and stable (for at least a full day of use)
Hat's off to all the chefs!
Currently using Dutty Touchflo 2 final non tilt edition on my tilt..... its the best for me till now... gave the no. 6 touchflo rom a try, but it was severely crippling my Tilt with random occasional freezing.... I am very happy with Touchflo 2.... its uber-fast and I simply love its freaky-fast responsiveness.....
i am using Helmi_C since day one, tried different ROM but i ended up going back, it's old, but it's quick, fast and big storage! most of all, it's quite stable and no problem whatsoever!
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i am using Helmi_C since day one, tried different ROM but i ended up going back, it's old, but it's quick, fast and big storage! most of all, it's quite stable and no problem whatsoever!
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I should have agreed with you a few weeks ago. Helmi_c had a very nice and stable ROM for a long time.
I've used Dutty's ROMs and CUSTEL ROMS but I still think Helmi_C had the best ROM for a long time.
Today I flashed Q-Mobile 1.0 ROM and I gives me the "Helmi_C" feeling!
It's clean, fast and seems to be stable! I think I'll stick with this one. (At least for a couple of days )
XDA Live 1.2
So far so good with this ROM. I didn't want to screw around with a non-at&t variant because I'm a noob. I loaded some SPB software and iGO for GPS and it's running great. There's loads of storage available since the ROM is smaller.
As far as stability goes, it works well enough when I reset every couple of days. Sometimes there are random freezes when it is unresponsive but these have gone down a bit since I figured out installing everything to the device works best. I had one SOD a couple nights ago when screwing around with finger-friendly friends but only that once. For now I am just going to use the stock contact supplemented with SPB contacts on Today.
The reason I plan on sticking with this ROM is that I figure Kyphur has a good chance of getting it completely stable easier than a ROM with a bunch of programs. It's already blazing fast and the radio version works well for me so far.
Q-Mobile 1.0 here - I've tried every rom, and each has its own strengths and weaknesses. Q-Mobile just seems to fit nicely in with what I expect the device to do, and how I think it should look. Fast, stable, no bugs that I've found, and a nice set of default apps.
I hate to reply to this one since it should be up to you to read up on it and try it out. But then again you want instant gratification so here DUTTY's rom no.6 or later. Why? Because no one else has put forth more time and effort into releasing these roms than he has and not to leave out his beta tester community too.
I'm not sure what it is, but I got that weird freezing on every rom I tried out. Right now, I'm using Alex cook your own rom and that is causing freezing, too. Any roms out there that don't have that freezing problem? I think its a normal thing cause the base rom.
I thought with all the various ROM's out there we could see which ROM is preferred by US AT&T Tilt Users. If you want to be specific about the exact ROM you're using you can post that as well. Maybe Dutty's V3 worked better for you then Dutty's V4.
Currently using Dutty's v4. MUCH better battery for me than v3. In fact v3 was really poor for me. I'm waiting for v4b; I'm hoping it improves the few small glitches left (granted they really haven't affected me yet) and keeps the battery and other tweaks.
I use shaps because of the customizability and the fact that its almost OEM with a bunch of things added and alot of memory to spare!
Don't forget about CUSTEL, I know a lot of people use his 2.1 rom.
I was using Alex's Ultra Clean but now prefer Q's rom. Dutty makes great roms also but they have never fit my tastes. For example, having an FM player cooked into my rom that wouldn't play and prob won't ever play would annoy the hell out of me lol. I will say this though, if he somehow figures out how to get it to work then he deserves some major props on that.
Having just recently cooked my first ROM using Alex's tutorial, I prefer the ATT style over the HTC OEM look. Personally I think a major drawback to any of those style ROMs, be they from dutty,Alex, etc. is the Clock taking up such a huge space of real estate on the display, and all and all the whole UI is just to "institutional/sterile" looking to begin with. I realize that many people do great things with customization but the clock is really wasting space.
Alemaker
I gotta go with UDK. I ran Dutty's Rom for about 2 days and way too many fixes to get it where you want it..eg. Word, Favorites, HTC album and others. I'm not knocking him. I appreciate all the rom cookers. However the UDK rom is where it's at. Very stable too. This is my 3rd HTC device (Prophet, Herald, and now Kaiser). Out of all three, I have to say I've been most impressed with this version so far besides for ITJE's Touch it 4.4. I look forward to more from you UDK.
Dutty does great stuff and I know I'll end up trying one of his ROMs again soon. I'm not all that into the cube and touchflo stuff though and just wanted a super clean ROM to work with. So I've been using Alex's stripped down ROM and just loving it on my Tilt.
att tilt Ptt unlock
can the att tilt be unlock and use with nextel...ptt...
gsm/iden 800/850/900/950mhz
Prefer clean ROMs with Added Cabs
I personally prefer to have a stable fast clean ROM as a base which we can add/remove the extra applications as independent CABs.
That said, currently I am torn among these three ROMs: Alex's ATT 1.60 Ultra Clean, Schap's 4.31 Lite, and Quentin's Q-Mobile 1.2.
Alex's ROM is great with 164MB free storage, but the free memory is only 65MB with nothing loaded. Did I miss something here? Alex's ROM has been through 4 revisions, stability, speed, and cleanliness are great (except I found one that he forgot to delete a non-working voice recording icon).
Schap's 4.31 Lite has 153MB free storage, the free memory is great with 74MB after hard reset. Schap is a talented cook; however, this 4.31 Lite still not as clean as it could be.
Quentin's v1.2 is not a lite ROM (145MB free storage), the free memory is less than the advertised 74MB (I had 69MB). I like about his ROM is: I can tell that his ROM must be of great quality since he is very meticulous on all the documentations. It's a pity that the free storage and memory amounts are mediocre.
All three are of fast speed. The difference is very subtle. Based on the way I tested them with the sliding open/close the keyboard, I observed that Alex > Schap > Quentin.
Which would you choose?
Dutty: V3
radio: 1.27.12.11
I am happy with the OEM HTC ROM. (After reverting back the radio...of course)
Alemaker said:
Having just recently cooked my first ROM using Alex's tutorial, I prefer the ATT style over the HTC OEM look. Personally I think a major drawback to any of those style ROMs, be they from dutty,Alex, etc. is the Clock taking up such a huge space of real estate on the display, and all and all the whole UI is just to "institutional/sterile" looking to begin with. I realize that many people do great things with customization but the clock is really wasting space.
Alemaker
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wow. I never knew someone would dislike a huge clock over a tiny corner clock. Especially considering its only using one tab out of 5-6 finger-sized tabs on the home screen. Plus new VM, SMS, and Missed Calls in obvious positioning. Plus you could always stay on the Launcher button instead of the Home button.
But yeah, the default WM6 look is easier for some people.
milkman219 said:
can the att tilt be unlock and use with nextel...ptt...
gsm/iden 800/850/900/950mhz
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Need I say anything
I'm using Schap's. Not the new one but the one before. Haven't found a good reason to flash my rom yet.
meorah said:
wow. I never knew someone would dislike a huge clock over a tiny corner clock. Especially considering its only using one tab out of 5-6 finger-sized tabs on the home screen. Plus new VM, SMS, and Missed Calls in obvious positioning. Plus you could always stay on the Launcher button instead of the Home button.
But yeah, the default WM6 look is easier for some people.
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Yup,
Just personal preference, tried all the HTC ones from various chefs, and even tried lots of 3rd party stuff like Spb stuff etc. Still like the default WM6 layout. Saw some awesome customizations of both styles though, and really like the wisbar Vista themed one but learning to cook is hard enough for me,let alone trying to customize using all that wisbar stuff.
I am currently using Alex's multi media ROM. I find it a good compromise between performance and memory usage. Also, the interface is sparse so I can use some of the SPB apps that I prefer.
I like Dutty
I never have used anything but the AT&T Rom's since the 8525 days but I finally decided to try Dutty's and I am very impressed. I use the GPS and get a lot of emails so I am a heavy user and the Tilt wasn't holding up but with Dutty's new v4 rom I am very impressed. Its fast, has a lot of tools and my GPS actually works well.
Its fast and responds well. I just wish there was a better phone / contact skin or program.
milkman219 said:
can the att tilt be unlock and use with nextel...ptt...
gsm/iden 800/850/900/950mhz
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NO, also wrong thread. . . IDEN uses a form of GSM but it doesn't work sorry. . .
Next time make your own thread in the proper place with out hijacking. . .
alex cook rom...add your own packages, and you got your own rom.
I like to cook with Alexs rom's.
Duttys roms have too much stuff i just don't need.
Hi all,
Having tried most of the recent ROMS and radios on this forum and have to give massive credit to the ingenuity and skill of the Chefs on here that there is so much choice available. However, I consistently had an issue with GPS fixes.The best initial fix time after a reset, or if I'd not used GPS for a few days, was about 1 minute outside in bright sunshine with no clouds. For cloudy weather this could go up to over 10 minutes. If I tried getting a fix inside at my desk which is next to the window, sometimes I would give up waiting as it just never got a fix (I realise that ordinarily you would not need GPS indoors, but it makes testing on a cold, wet day in the UK a lot easier...)
I tried pretty much everything in various GPS threads, using GPS Test, Quick GPS, disablng A-GPS etc and nothing consistently helped. I could not believe that the Kaiser was so much worse than my old Artemis.
One thread mentioned several folks downgrading to WM6 rather than 6.1 as they claimed this was better. I tried this and hey presto, I now get a cold fix in about 30 secs max, on a good day it can be 10-15 secs. At the same desk above, I get a fix in about 30 secs too. Not only that, my device in use seems to feel faster and things like screen rotate on opening the keyboard seem more so (this is subjective, not measured it).
This made me wonder what the advantages of WM6.1 actually are. From searching around, the list of things that apparently differ are :
Threaded SMS
Speed Increases
PIE Zoom Out
Task Manager
Office One Note
Of these, there are alternatives to most of them :
Threaded SMS use PocketCM,
PIE Zoom use Opera,
Task Manager - many alternatives,
One Note use TouchNotes and
Speed increase - I'm not convinced of in daily use.
However, all the chefs on this forum have moved over to 6.1 so I'm wondering that either the majority of people do not have GPS issues like I do or, as is exceptionally likely, there are other reasons that I do not know for preferring 6.1.
Any chefs out there fancy commenting on why you prefer 6.1 over 6.0 to save me from my ignorance?
Cheers,
Jez.
Same here
I have experienced the same mate. I have tried God knows how many 6.1s and besides, they are looking great and neat (thanks to our brilliant chefs here), i didn't see any improvement on my tilt, just opposite. I have experienced annoying non responsive display, very slow response time, and there was a time when I had to press display several times before I was able to run anything on the phone... let alone the GPS.
Now, I have an original HTC WM 6.0 Pro/ ROM 1.56.405.5/ Radio 1.27.12.11 and I have to say that my Tilt has never been faster and more stabile. Moreover, GPS signal is much better and even works when I put kaiser near the window. It is cloudy and rainy here in Bosnia now, yet it took only 15sec before it received signal.
So, I have to say that this one works better for me.
Lately I too have had more issues that I wish to have. Just seems there is no perfect, or even close mix of ROM/Software that is good enough to be a daily use type. Not sure if the chefs are just over-doing or we just have a bad mix of software at this time. I do hope the chefs continue to work on a better ROM, I do know they try hard and should be commended for their efforts, but right now I may move back to an older version that just worked better. Maybe 6.0, but not quite sure yet.
This is nothing new..many have reverted back to 6.0. But for what its worth, I never have to wait longer than 45 seconds in the U.S. using the emo radio inside my car rain or shine.
After receiving a warranty replacement for my Kaiser, I'm now using the stock T-mobile UK rom, and it's far better than any WM6.1 cooked rom + radio that I've tried when it comes to GPS.
However, the battery life is probably not quite as good. The unit is just as fast as with any of the cooked roms I've tried.
I can't really think of any tangible benefits from using cooked roms, as this stock WM6 rom works well, and I can add any functionality I need by installing the right programs.
I use PointUI, so I would not benefit from the significant improvements to the WM gui that the cooks have produced.
However, I enjoy trying out new roms and seeing what the cooks come up with, so I may still do it anyway, just for the fun of it!
you are absolutely right and now i am going to downgrade to 6.0
GPS is nice to have on my phone but if I truly needed GPS I would have bought a truly more reliable (read: GPS Specific) device.
If I need directions I can still use Google Maps to plot the turns, on my own - like in the old days. *snicker*
TasoM said:
Now, I have an original HTC WM 6.0 Pro/ ROM 1.56.405.5/ Radio 1.27.12.11
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BTW: What version of HardSPL are you using?
Ok, Someone has a chance to explain why this thread should be left in ROM Dev and not moved to Kaiser General.
JimmyMcGee said:
Ok, Someone has a chance to explain why this thread should be left in ROM Dev and not moved to Kaiser General.
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Sorry, duh, I guess we aren't talking about the development of ROMS, eh?
why
JimmyMcGee said:
Ok, Someone has a chance to explain why this thread should be left in ROM Dev and not moved to Kaiser General.
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... perhaps because it considers WM6.1 ROM development in the context of the WM6 platform for the Kaiser.
@tabashir --> Threaded SMS use PocketCM. I would be interested in a free replacement to the WM6.1 threaded SMS but http://www.pocketcm.com/index.php does not contain any details of this. Can you throw some light on this. Thx
[Edit - OK found threaded SMS using pocket CM thanks - will check it out thanks]
Thanks for the replies all. Although no answers on why to prefer 6.1, at least I know I'm not completely insane in going back to WM6!
Have not gone the whole hog and gone to a stock ROM tho, have been having fun trying out some of the different cooked ones, albeit old as they are now. Am currently on Blackwood which with Radio 1.27.14.09 and SPL 3.29.
Like TasoM, have not had any freezes or non-responsiveness with WM6 so far which I guess is what the forum is all about, try them all and find what suits your circumstances. I do find the battery life 'seems' worse than when I was on 6.1 and the Emo radio.
Reply to convert > glad you found the threaded SMS. Lots of nice skins for it too. I don't use it personally as I find iContact faster and better for just contacts and I don't need threaded sms.
Reply to JimmyMcGee > The original question was aimed at the Chefs creating the WM6.1 Roms so I figured it better in the Development thread. However, I really don't mind if you move it to where you think it is more appropriate.
Now I gotta go play with PointUI, was not aware of that one before!
How's the video playback and game/ui performance on the stock 6.0?
a major one everyone is forgetting is the dev of the 3D drivers and soon(tm) 2D drivers that is a major reason a lot of people including me have moved on, another one is that when some major changes come in 6.1 i will not have major issues with upgrading my apps mms/sms etc... to the new ROM and not have to worry about radio's and hardspl as i would be already running it..
besides you guys forget, your running windows... i always reboot my phone and a good reason is because i change batteries so every 1-3days it will be rebooted, it mixes most of the small issues.
As far as GPS its always been the same, i havent ever bothered with GPS to be there for me, its just to aid me, i do use google maps which helps i never have used GPS to tell me were to drive i think that is insane, nor will i ever do it, i like to know exactly were to go and what my options are
tabashir said:
Hi all,
Having tried most of the recent ROMS and radios on this forum and have to give massive credit to the ingenuity and skill of the Chefs on here that there is so much choice available. However, I consistently had an issue with GPS fixes.The best initial fix time after a reset, or if I'd not used GPS for a few days, was about 1 minute outside in bright sunshine with no clouds. For cloudy weather this could go up to over 10 minutes. If I tried getting a fix inside at my desk which is next to the window, sometimes I would give up waiting as it just never got a fix (I realise that ordinarily you would not need GPS indoors, but it makes testing on a cold, wet day in the UK a lot easier...)
I tried pretty much everything in various GPS threads, using GPS Test, Quick GPS, disablng A-GPS etc and nothing consistently helped. I could not believe that the Kaiser was so much worse than my old Artemis.
One thread mentioned several folks downgrading to WM6 rather than 6.1 as they claimed this was better. I tried this and hey presto, I now get a cold fix in about 30 secs max, on a good day it can be 10-15 secs. At the same desk above, I get a fix in about 30 secs too. Not only that, my device in use seems to feel faster and things like screen rotate on opening the keyboard seem more so (this is subjective, not measured it).
This made me wonder what the advantages of WM6.1 actually are. From searching around, the list of things that apparently differ are :
Threaded SMS
Speed Increases
PIE Zoom Out
Task Manager
Office One Note
Of these, there are alternatives to most of them :
Threaded SMS use PocketCM,
PIE Zoom use Opera,
Task Manager - many alternatives,
One Note use TouchNotes and
Speed increase - I'm not convinced of in daily use.
However, all the chefs on this forum have moved over to 6.1 so I'm wondering that either the majority of people do not have GPS issues like I do or, as is exceptionally likely, there are other reasons that I do not know for preferring 6.1.
Any chefs out there fancy commenting on why you prefer 6.1 over 6.0 to save me from my ignorance?
Cheers,
Jez.
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Try the newer rom(s) with manilla 2D (hyperdragon III is currently the only one publicly available). Newer is better.
I too switched to 6.0
tabashir said:
Thanks for the replies all. Although no answers on why to prefer 6.1, at least I know I'm not completely insane in going back to WM6!
Have not gone the whole hog and gone to a stock ROM tho, have been having fun trying out some of the different cooked ones, albeit old as they are now. Am currently on Blackwood which with Radio 1.27.14.09 and SPL 3.29.
Like TasoM, have not had any freezes or non-responsiveness with WM6 so far which I guess is what the forum is all about, try them all and find what suits your circumstances. I do find the battery life 'seems' worse than when I was on 6.1 and the Emo radio.
Reply to convert > glad you found the threaded SMS. Lots of nice skins for it too. I don't use it personally as I find iContact faster and better for just contacts and I don't need threaded sms.
Reply to JimmyMcGee > The original question was aimed at the Chefs creating the WM6.1 Roms so I figured it better in the Development thread. However, I really don't mind if you move it to where you think it is more appropriate.
Now I gotta go play with PointUI, was not aware of that one before!
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I too switched to WM 6.0 and I think that I am much happier than with Dutty's ROM. Do not get me wrong, there was a lot of nice things in it. But I have a feeling that I would rather prefer stock HTC ROM and add some useful software. I have not tried stock HTC ROM in 6.1. I am curious if GPS works teh same as in 6.0 ROM?
To be honest, 6.0 is much stable and less problematic so far compare to 6.1.
Most of the 6.1 problems (e.g. cleartype landscape) have some workaround solutions. But problem like the famous Activesync 86000107 still doesn't have any solution yet.
For me, the only advantage of 6.1 is much faster startup time, and overall system performance.
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a major one everyone is forgetting is the dev of the 3D drivers and soon(tm) 2D drivers that is a major reason a lot of people including me have moved on
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The 2D drivers could be a real benefit, but there's no advantage for me or most people having the 3D drivers installed at the moment.
I'll probably give Hyperdragon with TouchFlo 2D a go, but I would not be suprised if I end up sticking pointUI on it and have the exact same functionality and aesthetics as the stock rom. I hope I'm wrong!
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I too switched to WM 6.0 and I think that I am much happier than with Dutty's ROM. Do not get me wrong, there was a lot of nice things in it. But I have a feeling that I would rather prefer stock HTC ROM and add some useful software. I have not tried stock HTC ROM in 6.1. I am curious if GPS works teh same as in 6.0 ROM?
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I am done with problem 86000107, I want to go back to WM 6.0, Where did you find the official WM 6.0 ROM World wide English, and did you need to install a HardSPL or not ????
Thanks
Danny K.
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Now we're talking little bout religion here, LoL.
There was times at beginning of WM6.1 issuance that with so many problems came with it i sometimes convert back to stock HTC WM6, or Schaps 4.30 (most good looking and well done cooked WM6 i tried). I remember it was only before July i keep converting back. Yett most of the time i did it only to get the feeling of what's right before and try to 'port' (find solution) the great feelings to the newer WM6.1.
Nowadays, WM6.1 already much familiarized by the chefs here and gained much tweaks. On a proper hand, it does make big difference in performance. My Kaiser is now running full fledged without any issues, it even have landscape cleartype enabled now for my liking (yet i don't do threaded sms). Faster, more stable, less power hungry, quicker gps fix, more instant screen rotation, than before.
Wow, what happened? It's because the wonder of this community, that's why. AFAIK, i have used several PDA and the conclusion is still the same: left to itself, Microsoft's (MS) product does sux big time. Without this community it will dragging its own feet to its graveyard. I think HTC at least a bit better than MS in adapting to market's demand (i truly belief many HTC engineers are member of this forum, much more than MS's). Cuz I saw some pattern in behaviour here.
Bottomline, WM6.1 is indeed much more problematic than WM6. Yet WM6 was also much more problematic than WM5, or 2003SE!
That's the way MS works, man, everytime they issue newer OS they try to include more functionalities, features, etc, while at the same time introducing more bugs than before. For example, who use windows vista here, care to share your experience with it? Cuz I don't. I even use winXP only after SP2 issued.
Never trust Micro$oft product! Just trust the power of users and communities who expanding it! Now my religion is not WM6.1, but rather, XDA-Devs. So in case next time XDA-Devs decided they have enough with WM,then i may join the convert to Android. Amen.
while there was not a definitive WinMo 6.5 release, i didnt even consider moving to a 6.5 based ROM, but now that release date is closer, I´ve yet to see a pros and Cons of windows mobile 6.1 vs. winMo6.5.
I´ve a Diamond, so memory use is a concern.
i use manila 2.1 (hopefully 2.5 soon) so windows native dialogues are (nearly) over, and I dont need titanium WinMo6.5 native today UI.
Shall I move to 6.5 or stay with 6.1?
what advantages has a ROM based on 6.5 compared to a 6.1 ROM?
best regards
Amazed by nobody having a view into Win 6.1 vs 6.5!!!
I thought this thread would've actually been more popular... Lol.
sirgawain123 said:
I´ve a Diamond, so memory use is a concern.
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I'm not quite sure why you say that's a concern... According to Wikipedia, your Diamond has 192mb RAM (see this page), is that not true...? I'm running WM6.5 on my Elf with only 64mb RAM..
sirgawain123 said:
i use manila 2.1 (hopefully 2.5 soon) so windows native dialogues are (nearly) over, and I dont need titanium WinMo6.5 native today UI.
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As for M2D, I never really liked it much, so even with WM6.1 I never used it... I've gotten quite attached to the Titanium layout actually.. It's different, but it works well once you're use to it. Keep in mind I can only give you my opinions on upgrading.....
Pros
Easier navigation - Virtually any scrolling window can be 'dragged' up or down by dragging inside the contents instead of the scrollbar, makes it finger-friendly.
Speed - Obviously depending on who's ROM you install, many of them have had the really memory intensive applications and settings removed. This also depends on the device it was intended for; for my little Elf a lot was removed... But it's flying nicely.
PIN code prompt - I know it's minor, but every little bit counts; the PIN code prompt is always on top when the device starts up. With WM6.1 I had to invoke the 'phone' side sometimes just to put my PIN in.
Cons
Selecting files - Because of the tap-and-drag scrolling, you can't drag a selection box around a number of files in a window that scrolls.. If the window contents don't scroll, you can still do this though.
Compatibility - Many of the today screen plugins I used to use have had to be replaced with other apps; the WM6.5 today screen can be set to the old style (WM6.1), but it's your choice.
Other than those, I can't really think of much else that makes WM6.5 better or worse than WM6.1... The rest is really up to you to decide. For me, I'm more than happy with it and I have no intention of going back to 6.1 at all.
you got to try the cooked 6.5 roms to really know the BIG difference.
and you can still go back to 6.1 if you don't like it.
TheRem said:
you got to try the cooked 6.5 roms to really know the BIG difference.
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Too true... Try, try, and try again. Then try another one for good measure. Lol. I think I've changed between about 6 different ROMs in the last two weeks. I keep going back to Dsixda's Onyx ROMs though...
ZaLiTH said:
Too true... Try, try, and try again. Then try another one for good measure. Lol. I think I've changed between about 6 different ROMs in the last two weeks. I keep going back to Dsixda's Onyx ROMs though...
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Thanks prervious posters for sharing their views.
So the question would be, for a similar ROM tried with each of both cores, and disregarding the user interface preferences :
Is 6.5 lighter than 6.1?
Is 6.5 faster?
Is 6.5 more stable?
If there are three "yes"....i´ll move to 6.5!
If 6.5 is heavier on memory, but more stable and faster.....I´ll check if my device memory and aplication usage allows to move up.
if 6.5 is either slower or less stable....I´ll stay at 6.1 unless i fall in love with titanium UI!
sirgawain123 said:
Is 6.5 lighter than 6.1?
Is 6.5 faster?
Is 6.5 more stable?
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the answer is NO to all three... it's still in BETA so lets just wait for the real thing that will come out on October 6.
Test 6.5 and decide for yourself!
I have 6.5 on my Universal with only 64mb of RAM and I´m quite happy with it, so do not worry and go for it!
If you donñt like it you can always go back
TheRem said:
the answer is NO to all three... it's still in BETA so lets just wait for the real thing that will come out on October 6.
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I'd have to agree with the first part of TheRem's post here... (nothing personal ) But go with orb300's suggestion:
orb3000 said:
Test 6.5 and decide for yourself!
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As I said, I'm running WM6.5 on my little Elf without any trouble.. Sure it's not quite as fast as some of the WM6.1 ROMs around here, but it's definitely faster than the standard ROM that came with the phone nearly a year back! Your Diamond should handle it a lot better with the higher amount of RAM available...
Either way, before you do any of that.... Make sure you install HardSPL first!! That way you'll still be able to flash a working ROM again if you find one that doesn't want to start up.
As somebody esle said, its all matter of personal preference. I think 6.5 is a bit sluggish than 6.1, but i cannot go back to using 6.1.
ai6908 said:
As somebody esle said, its all matter of personal preference. I think 6.5 is a bit sluggish than 6.1, but i cannot go back to using 6.1.
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well, the user interface can be a matter of personal preference.
But the slughiness or not of the underlying system is what counts here.
So far I´m used to TF3D and intend to keep there. There are cookers which are tying Manila on top of 6.1, while others are moving to 6.5. Same happens with Mobile Shell.
So, if you are not going to use the new tytanium UI of 6.5, is it worth the upgrade?
B/R
PS: regarding Beta Status of 6.5......IT should be over now. Thats why i´m questioning now, not when initial betas were leaked.
I'm looking and trying things out, but not having much luck. I don't care for the fancy icons and such. Just want something that's QUICK! Anybody have and suggestions?
I found my answer
What ROM is it? I'm using Pavenmaverick ROM wich I got from forum.ppcgeeks.com for about 1 month and I like it so much, especially after using MSM72k overclock app, my TP2 is better than ever!
Running Sprint Basics 1.4 ROM. Very smooth and have about 45% ram available all the time.
they have the phone overclocked?!?!? where is this app, and what do i need to know to make it work!?
thanks!
nvm i found it here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7181187
Maverick SPB Mobile Shell ROM
bmw2320 said:
What ROM is it? I'm using Pavenmaverick ROM wich I got from forum.ppcgeeks.com for about 1 month and I like it so much, especially after using MSM72k overclock app, my TP2 is better than ever!
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I was almost forced to switch phones when I found the rom and now I am good to go for another year at least.
Also everything works even the mms which never worked from day one even on the Mighty rom this mms feature didnt work but this Maverick SPB Mobile Shell ROM works great out of the box no additional cabs needed except the provision cab.(( use this cab it works great for Verizon or Sprint dcd's carrier cab ))and no lockups.
Whom ever made this rom deserves a BIG Thank YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Check this rom out you will love it removed all the htc sense from it and uses SPB mobile shell and it brings new life to the TP2 for Sprint or Verizon CDMA phones only
You can find everything here:::::forum.ppcgeeks.com/cdma-tp2-development/133595-blazing-fast-stable-maverick-mobileshell-rom-sys-23135-updated.html[/url]
im more to eye candy..than smooth function
Hey guys I've since moved onto the HTC Evo, but if I can help let me know!
Hi, sorry for my bad english (first at all).
I'm trying to find a ROM plenty smooth, the Sprint Stock Like ROM it's very fast and stable, but i have trouble for connect my cell company (Comcel Colombia).
Now, Do i can find a rom without Sense or any eye candy?, i mean something completly STOCK LIKE. No Manilla, No Titanium, No HTC Sense, No SPB, just WinMo 6.5 with his base plain and clean Home.
Thanks and again, sorry for my english.
--By GearAngelus
gearangelus said:
Hi, sorry for my bad english (first at all).
I'm trying to find a ROM plenty smooth, the Sprint Stock Like ROM it's very fast and stable, but i have trouble for connect my cell company (Comcel Colombia).
Now, Do i can find a rom without Sense or any eye candy?, i mean something completly STOCK LIKE. No Manilla, No Titanium, No HTC Sense, No SPB, just WinMo 6.5 with his base plain and clean Home.
Thanks and again, sorry for my english.
--By GearAngelus
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I know what mean, im looking for the same thing, this damn htc messenging system messes up my cell bad, too much lag too much restarting, its embarrassing. My touch pro 1 was better than this.
gearangelus said:
Hi, sorry for my bad english (first at all).
I'm trying to find a ROM plenty smooth, the Sprint Stock Like ROM it's very fast and stable, but i have trouble for connect my cell company (Comcel Colombia).
Now, Do i can find a rom without Sense or any eye candy?, i mean something completly STOCK LIKE. No Manilla, No Titanium, No HTC Sense, No SPB, just WinMo 6.5 with his base plain and clean Home.
Thanks and again, sorry for my english.
--By GearAngelus
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HERE ONE choose the bare one i think it says V0.08
Bare ROM for HTC Touch Pro2 Sprint
liljonpsp said:
HERE ONE choose the bare one i think it says V0.08
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mmm... where