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Auto-delete emails?

Hello Everyone,
I have a T-Mobile USA SDA and had a problem with emails on the device.
Not sure if it is working as designed or if there was a blug, so I thought I would float it by you guys.
Setup:
Mail client on T-Mobile USA SDA
Configured manually to check pop and send smtp with my gmail account. It is set such that the message headers are downloaded first.
I connect WIFI and send/recieve
I receive a header I had sent myself for testing
I click on it and select to download the message body.
I go back to the inbox.
I do send and receive.
I receive the message body.
I read it.
I go back to the inbox.
I do send and recieve.
Result:
The message is removed without a trace. it is not put into deleted items folder, nor does it remain in the inbox folder.
Is this expected behavior? I am not allowed to store mail on my device? Is there a registry setting to change this behavior? There is no options within the application. Is there a registry setting to change wheremails are stored in general? thanks for seeing the barrage of questions!

Yes I got the same result with you. Mine is a Dopod 577w (Tornado in Taiwan). This behaviour also happens to other mail servers.

ni hao,
I had searched a bit about it and found some places explain it. The explanation sounds weak, but it looks like something we will have to live with until either gmail or ms changes their server or client software.
USENET:
Sat, Mar 4 2006 7:24 am
The problem is with the default behaviour of Gmail - it will "hide" all the
already-downloaded mail. Unfortunately, it seems not even now that the beta
phase is long over can you effectively override this behaviour - the POP3
radio buttons just don't stick in the Settings window.
Therefore, the best solution IMHO is switching to an alternative e-mail
client that doesn't remove the messages that are not available online any
more from the local view. The alternative mailer clients FlexMail and Qmail
are like so - see the row "Does it only display mail that is still on the
server? " in the comparison chart of my mailer client roundup at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1 . Of the two,
FlexMail offers scheduling capabilities.
PocketPC MAG:
Does it only display mail that is still on the server? : one of the most-criticized problems with Messaging is that it does not show older messages (messages that have been deleted in the meantime) in the Inbox unless you explicitly (mass-)move them to a separate folder. As can be seen, it's, in addition to Messaging, only nPOPw that deletes the messages from the local view that don't exist on the server any more. The other mailer applications don't.
I might just write a pop/smtp client software myself. Much easier to tweak it to do what I need it to do, and in my previous job I worked for an email client so I know those protocols well. I probably won't add advanced functionality or IMAP/Exchange, because I have no individual use for those.

Very Useful info.
My current solution to this issue is Outlook & ActiveSync. Just download your mail to PC and sync. Mail in mobile Outlook account will not disappear unless you delete them.
By the way, I think Gmail mobile website is also okay for mail browsing & composing.
(it is not a good experience posting reply here using Pocket IE)
I'd like to write a mail client using .NET CF just for fun if I have time. I'm not a C++ guy.

gmail pop3 email problems

Hello,
I have problem with my email. I have set up my gmail account on the phone and it works ok. I connect through wifi and for the moment i don't have a data plan.
The problem is with my old emails that disappear when i connect and receive new messages. After that i can only see the new emails.
Is any setting that I've done it wrong or what ? Maybe the emails are moved somewhere else ?
Thank you,

Use IMAP4, it's way better... (and is free to use with google) if you want to know why: [link]
Also you can set how recent can the messages be that will be downloaded...
eg.: download messages from the past 7 days... can be set up to all your messages....
It can be configured in the email setup wizard the first time you setup the email account, or you can re-run the wizard from the Menu -> Tools -> Option -> [gmail account name] menu...
Page 122 of the printed manual...

After i have opened this thread i have done that, but now there is another problem. The emails that i open on the phone aren't downloaded into my outlook on the desktop pc. And if i use pop3 on the phone it doesn't matter if i read them or not, i still can download them on the desktop.

You can use both protocols simultaneusly...
Also you can force the gmail account to download mails... [link]
But, here is how I use my gmail, outlook, PDA...
My outlook is only for storing contacs, and calendar events (as a backup, and for easier editing)
Gmail syncs my mail via IMAP on my PDA (no need for storing mails on PC as Gmail has almost 7GB space for storing mail and attachments, and with IMAP the status of the email is snyced as well...)
This way I can read my mail, and reply on the spot, but if something more complex is needed (like formatting or several attachements then the web based gmail is just as good as the outlook...)
Of course I have a Data Plan...

ok, i think i got it thank you.
As for a data plan i have a good offer from orange. 5 mb/month for 5.95 euro and 1.19 euro for each additional 10 mb. So it's quite cheap, but i have wifi at home, at my office and in many other places that i go.
When i don't have wifi acces it means that i'm on my free time or holyday so i don't need the email.

my polaris generates a 200-250 MB/month traffic... I have a 5GB data plan for 22 EUR
btw, i have the RSS HUB and some other programs running constantly, so it's no wonder...

that's nice, i mean the price for the data plan, but i don't need that much traffic. In fact i don't need even 200 mb.
If i calculate correctly my traffic on the phone is roughly 40 mb/month just for emails, and no more than 10 mb for weather and some internet.
LE: In the other post i said 5 mb/month for 5.95, but it's wrong, 30 mb/month for 5.95 and 1.19 euro for each additional 10 mb is correct. but even like this your data plan is much cheaper.

Sound better that way (30MB for 6 EUR)... but why calculate?
If you got an original Polaris (not O2), then the SPB GPRS Monitor is bundled on one of the CDs...
Sadly I need that much traffic... Using WMWifiRouter between 4-5 PCs can cause some nasty thing if you're not prepaired...

I understand, you use your data plan from vodafone to give internet to other computers. I have diffrent internet providers at home and at the office which both have unlimited traffic at very hi speed with about 10 euro/month.
I calculated because that is a gprs monitor and i don't have gprs...i calculated just as an estimation of what i would use if i would have gprs.

FlexMail 4 and TouchFlo 2d (scrolling, email tab, etc.,)

So, I have a FlexMail 4 for my HTC TyTN II (actually AT&T Tilt, if that makes a difference), and I was wondering if it could be integrated with TouchFlo, TouchFlo 2d or Manila.
My issues:
1) There's no way to do TouchFlo scrolling in FlexMail. Is there a registry tweak that can fix this?
2) Currently, TouchFlo 2d still uses Pocket Outlook. Would there be a way to change it to use FlexMail?

GMail, Hotmail, Exchange, Newsgroups, and RSS all on the same Windows Mobile (WM5 and up) reader, with HTML, links, & attachments all working.
It is not a new reader- it’s qmail (qmail3) version 3.0.7. I am not an expert, and don’t have a clue as to all of the filter settings and crap that you can do with it, but I did figure out how to get all of the above working in ONE PROGRAM! Below are the workarounds and settings that I discovered.
I previously used Qusnetsoft reader for NNTP and RSS and Flexmail 4 for email. I was unhappy with the Flexmail viewer (no touch scrolling; scroll bar with stylus only) and email navigation from open mail to folders a bit of a pain. Qusnetsoft took too long to sync (nice interface though). I had used QMail3 before and liked it, but still use Hotmail and was bummed by MSN no longer supporting POP.
First… Download QMail (http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Internet-Utilities/Email/QMAIL-8837.shtml) for WM.
Then, for each account, In QMail, <Menu<Tool<Account<Add Account
GMAIL
Name=Gmail (or whatever)
Class=mail
Incoming=POP3 (or IMAP, but I’ll cover POP3 settings)
Outgoing=SMTP Then tap “OK”
In General Tab…
Incoming=pop.gmail.com
Outgoing=smtp.gmail.com
Name=your name
Address=your email
Reply-To=your email
In User Tab…
Username=your Gmail Login Name
Password=your GMail Password
Check Authenticate
Username=your Gmail Login Name
Password=your GMail Password
In Details Tab…
Incoming mail Port=995
Secure=SSL
Outgoing mail Port=465
Secure=SSL
All other Settings are fine or adjust at your discretion.
HOTMAIL
First off, if you are not living in the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, France, Japan, Spain, Germany, Italy, or the Netherlands (Where MSN has made POP for hotmail available again) you’ll need to change your location in Windows Live or Hotmail to reflect that you now live in one of those places. The site I used for these settings is http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/...and-smtp-support-instantly-for-all-countries/ Once this is done, the Qmail settings are as follows…
Name=Hotmail (or whatever)
Class=mail
Incoming=POP3
Outgoing=SMTP Then tap “OK”
In General Tab…
Incoming=pop3.live.com
Outgoing=smtp.live.com
Name=your name
Address=your email
Reply-To=your email
In User Tab…
Username=your Hotmail Login Name
Password=your Hotmail Password
Check Authenticate
Username=your Hotmail Login Name
Password=your Hotmail Password
In Details Tab…
Incoming mail Port=995
Secure=SSL
Outgoing mail Port=25
Secure=SSL
All other Settings are fine or adjust at your discretion.
Exchange
Not all exchange servers will work this way- your admin must have access enabled. I work for a school district and they have a web interface. Here are the QMail settings that get me in.
Name=Work (or whatever)
Class=mail
Incoming=POP3
Outgoing=SMTP Then tap “OK”
In General Tab…
Incoming=www.your domain name.web access suffix eg. www.avondale.k12.az.us
Outgoing=.your domain name.web access suffix eg. www.avondale.k12.az.us
Name=your name
Address=your email
Reply-To=your email
In User Tab…
Username=your Domain/Login Name eg. Avondale/JPerkins
Password=your Exchange Password
Check Authenticate
Username=your Domain/Login Name eg. Avondale/JPerkins
Password=your Exchange Password
In Details Tab…
Incoming mail Port=143 (auto selected)
Secure=none
Outgoing mail Port=25 (auto selected)
Secure=none
All other Settings are fine or adjust at your discretion.
Newsgroups
Name=newsgroups (or whatever)
Class=news
Incoming=NNTP
Outgoing=NNTP Then tap “OK”
In General Tab… (Check with your service provider for NNTP access settings- here’s some for AT&T)
Incoming=news.sf.sbcglobal.net
Outgoing= news.sf.sbcglobal.net
Name=your name (any name)
Address=your email
Reply-To=your email
In User Tab…
Username=your service provider’s login eg. [email protected]
Password=your service provider’s Password
Check Authenticate
Username=your service provider’s login eg. [email protected]
Password=your service provider’s Password
In Details Tab…
Incoming mail Port=119 (auto selected)
Secure=none
Outgoing mail Port=119 (auto selected)
Secure=none
All other Settings are fine or adjust at your discretion.
RSS
Name=RSS (or whatever)
Class=rss
Incoming=RSS
Outgoing=Blog Then tap “OK”
Then tap “OK” and Then tap “OK” again
Select RSS from drop-down menu, tap-and-hold in the blank white space and select Subscribe to Feed…
Enter Feed Site eg. www.npr.org Tap Next
The Name should auto select (if you are connected to the internet). Tap “OK”
All other Settings are fine or adjust at your discretion.
I use an HTC Kaiser (AT&T Tilt) w/cooked diamond rom 6.1 and I don’t have a data plan- I have WIFI at home @ work, so I needed something that could load everything onto my device for offline viewing when out-n-about. If you open a message then tap ok, then <Menu<Edit<Select All then tap-and-hold any off the messages, select <Mark<Mark Download, then do a Sync or Roundup again (you can find these by tapping and holding icons on the bottom toolbar) you can download full emails/news articles/etc. Hope this helps someone
nate

APN confusion regarding GPRS services

I'm having a hard time understanding why European GPRS vendors make a distinction between email, internet, and WAP services, and consequently I don't know what service to ask for when I purchase a PAYG SIM when I travel.
My primary GPRS interest is
SMTP for the handset's email client for IMAP (both google and exchange server accounts)
ActiveSync for contacts/calendar synchronization.
RSS reading, resulting in some cases some podcast downloading
Tethering via WMWiFiRouter
as you can see, i'm not a big HTML user, if at all.
What key terms and phrases should I look out for in the service descriptions in order to get the right internet service I need?
A specific example would be the ambiguity Vodafone Romania has between the email mobile vs internet mobile descriptions and the related APN differences "live.vodafone.com" and "internet.vodafone.com".
Also, for some reason T-Mobile UK is not included in the excellent list given over in the thread GPRS/Internet Connection Settings for the whole world thread. seems like it should be on page 4 but it's not. any reason for that, and does anyone know the APN settings for TMO/UK?
Lastly, what is an example of a WAP service?
Thanks in advance.

there is no universal answer to this
they made a big mess of it indeed. want to trick customers
wap service:
in most cases it won't let you out of vendor's special web page. there you have access to services to check your credit, payments, company info, some ringtone, music shops... mostly useless stuff.
ah and with windows mobile, there is no official way of setting it up. you can use 'work' and set some rules for wap.* ....anyway, you don't want that.
email:
in most cases this service will allow you to access only email on vendor's server.
e.g. [email protected]
in another case you'll have POP, IMAP, SMTP and maybe activesync allowed and web browsing limited to vendor's address.
yet another case is your data plan is small, means you'll pay for 1MB more
for rss you would need full internet anyway.
in general, if you have "internet" service, it have everything in it.

[Q] Hotmail ActiveSync problems with HTC WinMo 6.x devices

I'm looking for anyone having error 0x8000FFFF with Hotmail ActiveSync. I've already found a number of users with the same issue and I'm trying to collect as much info as I can to give full details to Microsoft Hotmail Team.
If you're having the same issue, post here a note with the following details:
1. Windows Mobile phone brand, model, full OS version & build number and system language.
2. Which items can you synchronize (if any): Mail, Calendar, Contacts and Tasks.
3. During account setup, in "Enter Email Address" screen, do you see any pre-selected checkbox to "Attempt to detect Exchange Server Settings automatically"? (see http://bit.ly/bJ57SX - picture #3 for details).
4. Do you get any SSL certificate to accept?
5. Which is your LiveID?
Hoping that might help us with Microsft, I thank you very much.
Fabrizio