Hello,
I have problem with my email. I have set up my gmail account on the phone and it works ok. I connect through wifi and for the moment i don't have a data plan.
The problem is with my old emails that disappear when i connect and receive new messages. After that i can only see the new emails.
Is any setting that I've done it wrong or what ? Maybe the emails are moved somewhere else ?
Thank you,
Use IMAP4, it's way better... (and is free to use with google) if you want to know why: [link]
Also you can set how recent can the messages be that will be downloaded...
eg.: download messages from the past 7 days... can be set up to all your messages....
It can be configured in the email setup wizard the first time you setup the email account, or you can re-run the wizard from the Menu -> Tools -> Option -> [gmail account name] menu...
Page 122 of the printed manual...
After i have opened this thread i have done that, but now there is another problem. The emails that i open on the phone aren't downloaded into my outlook on the desktop pc. And if i use pop3 on the phone it doesn't matter if i read them or not, i still can download them on the desktop.
You can use both protocols simultaneusly...
Also you can force the gmail account to download mails... [link]
But, here is how I use my gmail, outlook, PDA...
My outlook is only for storing contacs, and calendar events (as a backup, and for easier editing)
Gmail syncs my mail via IMAP on my PDA (no need for storing mails on PC as Gmail has almost 7GB space for storing mail and attachments, and with IMAP the status of the email is snyced as well...)
This way I can read my mail, and reply on the spot, but if something more complex is needed (like formatting or several attachements then the web based gmail is just as good as the outlook...)
Of course I have a Data Plan...
ok, i think i got it thank you.
As for a data plan i have a good offer from orange. 5 mb/month for 5.95 euro and 1.19 euro for each additional 10 mb. So it's quite cheap, but i have wifi at home, at my office and in many other places that i go.
When i don't have wifi acces it means that i'm on my free time or holyday so i don't need the email.
my polaris generates a 200-250 MB/month traffic... I have a 5GB data plan for 22 EUR
btw, i have the RSS HUB and some other programs running constantly, so it's no wonder...
that's nice, i mean the price for the data plan, but i don't need that much traffic. In fact i don't need even 200 mb.
If i calculate correctly my traffic on the phone is roughly 40 mb/month just for emails, and no more than 10 mb for weather and some internet.
LE: In the other post i said 5 mb/month for 5.95, but it's wrong, 30 mb/month for 5.95 and 1.19 euro for each additional 10 mb is correct. but even like this your data plan is much cheaper.
Sound better that way (30MB for 6 EUR)... but why calculate?
If you got an original Polaris (not O2), then the SPB GPRS Monitor is bundled on one of the CDs...
Sadly I need that much traffic... Using WMWifiRouter between 4-5 PCs can cause some nasty thing if you're not prepaired...
I understand, you use your data plan from vodafone to give internet to other computers. I have diffrent internet providers at home and at the office which both have unlimited traffic at very hi speed with about 10 euro/month.
I calculated because that is a gprs monitor and i don't have gprs...i calculated just as an estimation of what i would use if i would have gprs.
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I haven't seen anyone come up with a good description of what emoze does yet, so I thought I'd contribute my own, and compare it to web2mail. emoze is in fact much more than just a pushmail service, it constantly is updating all aspects of Outlook (email, calender, tasks, ect). Changes occur almost instantaneously (<5 seconds via EDGE, i've timed it). Delete an email of your PPC, it deletes off of your computer. Change a meeting time on your computer, it changes instantly on your PPC. Everything remains in perfect sync at all times, as long as you have an internet connection on both ends. To reduce battery drain, you can switch to a periodic sync (every so many minutes), but obviously changes and email won't show up as fast then. Regular pop email pisses me off because there's no good way to reply to email you recieved through activesync. Emoze solves this. The only other way I know of to get this sort of service is to be a large business with a big, expensive MS Exchange server. If you manage your life with Outlook like I do, I highly reccomend this software. It works right out of the box (even though there's no box nowdays), just install the desktop PC software, install the PPC software, and it goes.
mail2web has most of the same features, with a few significant difference. It has better attatchment size (100mb) versus emoze's 1mb limit. However, the kicker for me is that you must use a mail2web email address ([email protected]), along with mail2web's desktop email client, to utilize mail2web. Emoze lets you keep your current email address, and your current desktop email client, giving you nothing to relearn, and better protection if emoze/web2mail were to go bankrupt and disappear overnight. Unfortunately, Emoze doesn't support all email clients, although they're working on it, so mail2web might be the way to go if you're running, say, lotus domino. I haven't actually used mail2web, so if I missed any advantages they might have, feel free to post.
Both services are free, so go ahead and try 'em. I have yet to recieve any spam from emoze. Don't know about mail2web though.
Emoze: http://www.emoze.com/en/HomePage.html
mail2web: http://services.mail2web.com/FreeServices/m2wLive/
odd first post wonder who he works for :lol:
the main reason I am using Mail2web and not emoze is because mail2web does not require me to have my own PC on 24/7 nor installing any client on my PC. Peace out
Trucido said:
the main reason I am using Mail2web and not emoze is because mail2web does not require me to have my own PC on 24/7 nor installing any client on my PC. Peace out
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Good point. That's a big plus for mail2web. Do you know some way to reply to your mail that makes it seem like you're using your normal email instead of a mail2web email address? I'd definitely switch if I could figure out a good way to do that.
You can do that, but you have to pay for it. That's how they get you to pay them.
does emoze support html mail? free mail2web accounts don't, because they have only exchange server 2003 running.
emoze has a pc client (outlook plugin?) which syncs over internet with the mobile version of emoze on my ppc? this is an advantage and a disadvantage:
the disadvantage has been mentioned - the pc has to run all the time.
but on the other side you are able to sync your mobile and your pc over air.
with free mail2web accounts you can only sync your ppc with the exchange server.
the mail2web email address is not really bad: within the settings of my usual mail account (arcor) i added a filter, which redirects a copy of every incoming mail to my mail2web account. that is not the finest solution, but better than nothing.
emoze battery issues vs mail2web activesync
i had emoze on my hp 6965 and on my htc x7500 and it works very nicely
the only few problems ive had is battery dies within 4-5 hours if the sync is allways on
also if you have pictures associated with your contacts it dosent transfer them back and forth i found, mail2web has no problem doing this
it really was nice to be able to push gmail over the air and have my desktop and ppc synced at the same time but if your pc looses connection ur off the air until you get to it and fix it.
mail2web is great since it keeps your battery life very long (i can have it on all day with about 2 hrs of talktime and about 20-30 emails a day) and still have about 30% left by the time i get home or to my car to charge it again,
but when you reply to messeges it dosent use the gmail address, which sux badly since i want it to use gmail,
the advanteges are you can hard reset your device and not worry about your info being lost or having to get home and save it its just allways on the server, which i like knowing all my data is safe,
ive looked into several other programs like pusheffect and i just couldent get it going so i uninstalled it,
the only other programs i found recently is the seven beta program, i downloaded it to my device and installed it even tho it says wm5 only supported, i had no problems running it on my wm6 unit, it works like a charm
and i get both my gmails, and my work email on it
my current setup is mail2web synced with activesync on my x7500 and seven for my gmails and work email,
also, the seven beta program does not notify you once an email comes in with any audio or the messege icon, it just shows
" [email protected] 1 unread"
so you have to keep looking at your unit from time to time to see if you have email,
push works great, alltho it seems like from time it takes it about 5 min's to get a messege,
I have frequent problems with mail2web
I have all mail forwarded to my gmail, then I have gmail forward everything to mail2web. Gmail frequently reports bounced messages sent to m2w. I'm going to try emoze. I suspect it will be a lot better. Since I have two machines (media server and tor box) on all the time anyway, that's no big deal for me, but there are other advantages to doing so.
purrfect said:
the only other programs i found recently is the seven beta program, i downloaded it to my device and installed it even tho it says wm5 only supported, i had no problems running it on my wm6 unit, it works like a charm
and i get both my gmails, and my work email on it
my current setup is mail2web synced with activesync on my x7500 and seven for my gmails and work email,
also, the seven beta program does not notify you once an email comes in with any audio or the messege icon, it just shows
" [email protected] 1 unread"
so you have to keep looking at your unit from time to time to see if you have email,
push works great, alltho it seems like from time it takes it about 5 min's to get a messege,
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Thanks for the heads up for the Seven Beta, just signed up and have now stopped forwarding my gmail to my mail2web account, they can now function as two separate items with push on both. As for seven not notifying me when new mail arrives, i can live with that.
Edit
Just sent a test email to both accounts, mail2web won by 1 minute and the PPC went beep for each message
aak4 said:
You can do that, but you have to pay for it. That's how they get you to pay them.
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Could you elaborate on this? I don't mind paying, but how would I set it up?
What are you guys all paying for your Exchange Account w/ Direct Push? And what are the attachment and storage limits? Also, do you have OWA (Outlook Web Access)?
I remember seeing a few posts about people looking for public Exchange 2003 hosts with MSFP for Direct Push, but I cant find them now.
All I know of is mail2web. Are there others?
TIA
i use live.mail2web.com and its free.. also has OWA
and i must be blind cause i didnt read the last line of your post
shogunmark said:
i use live.mail2web.com and its free.. also has OWA
and i must be blind cause i didnt read the last line of your post
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I just looked again, and it doesnt look like that service includes Direct Push, you have to use Active Sync to your local computer in order to Sync. I was asking about complete wireless/mobile syncing through Edge/3G directly with an Exchange Server (no middleman PC).
nope, it uses direct push, i have been using it for several months now with no problems
this is another reason why i love mail2web.. i hard reset my phone at any time, at any place, then i just install their settings cab on my phone (have it stored on my storage card) and it will sync my contacts, calender, and mail
shogunmark said:
this is another reason why i love mail2web.. i hard reset my phone at any time, at any place, then i just install their settings cab on my phone (have it stored on my storage card) and it will sync my contacts, calender, and mail
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Ok, I just looked yet again, and it really looks like in order to get the Push option you need to pay $1.99 a month. It's under their "Personal Tab" rather than the "Free" tab...
Do you pay? If not, are you sure you're not actually using periodic pull or over the air sync?
They offer the same product on the free tab and then charge $1.99 per month for it on the personal tab. Weird. Am I missing something?
The free tab makes no mention of "Direct Push", while the personal tab makes sure to mention it many times...
I can confirm that the free Exchange option (called "Mail2web LIVE") includes Direct Push.
See:
http://services.mail2web.com/FreeServices/m2wLive/SP2features.asp
and http://services.mail2web.com/FreeServices/m2wLive/ActiveSync.asp
Again, make sure you are signing up for mail2web Live. The settings for the device can be retrieved from your account control panel.
Yup, it's free, and it's push. The only cost is the data with your service provider.
I think the confusion is because it talks about ActiveSync, but don't forget this also runs on your device, and by entering the settings in there you get your push mail, and sync for contacts, calendar etc.
http://live.mail2web.com/ This is the main page where you can log onto your account over the web.
Bottom of the page is the link to sign up.
hi there!
just thought i'd share my 2 pence worth:
i use pocket outlook to access my gmail account, however the emails have a funny habit of "dissapearing" after being downloaded. this is probably due to gmail's automatic removal of downloaded emails.
as work around is stated here:
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=47948
this will allow you to retain emails (both read and unread) from the last 30 days in your pop inbox. which should b ample time for you to decide what to and not to copy
in short:
instead of logging on using:
Code:
user
use instead:
Code:
recent:user
hope this helps someone.
tian
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It helps
Thank you !
you could also just switch from "get full copy of message" to "get message header only". enable the message body box and set to 999kb. that will keep messages on your mobile device indefinately.
i dont remember if that works or not for me - i usually download full messages as i hate having to connect twice (especially being on the w'n'w data plan )
now if only i spent the past week revising for tomorrow's exam rather then researching how to set up my pda...
doesn't seem to work for me. the downloaded email is still deleted after a send/receive
using pocket outlook on treo 750v
what settings do you have for: "Only display messages from the last XX days"?
(i'm now having the opposite problem... it seems that even after i've deleted a email, it comes back after a while )
tian
here are my settings
username recent:[email protected]
password: xxxxxxxx
only display messages from the: unchecked
require ssl connection: checked
outgoing mail req. authentication: checked
get full copy of messages
incoming: pop.gmail.com
outgoing: smtp.gmail.com
what settings do you have?
i've got the same except:
only display the messages from the last 3 days
btw. in my outlook options under storage i also have:
manually remove email
I also have delete items manually. I will try out 3 days and see what happens.
My account configuration is the same for both outlook and pocket outlook, except the username : it is my full gmail address for outlook contrary to pocket outlook which does have my full address with the "recent:" prefix...
Everything is working fine, I have all my mails retrieved in outlook and all my mail from the last 30 days in pocket outlook...
To prevent it from being deleted, make a sub Folder within Inbox, move all your wanted mails into the new folder, well, it will never be deleted. Hope this simple solution is helpful to all.
I'm looking for a free pushmail service for my HD2. Somebody can help me? I have tried some but they can not work correctly with WM 6.5.
Gmail works fine for me. Besides the actual GM account, I also duplicate some other GM accounts to it & it checks / collects mail from still further other non GM accounts.
ive also been looking for one for ages. My symbian friends are quite quick to put down my htc hd 2 because it doesnt have free pushmail service. XDA-developers have solved 99.9% of my probs. I hope it goes up by 0.1%
Thanks in advance. I love this website!
RalphS said:
Gmail works fine for me. Besides the actual GM account, I also duplicate some other GM accounts to it & it checks / collects mail from still further other non GM accounts.
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I see that you are on Tmobile UK. Do you use the standard web'n'walk for this push service?
I've never got proper push from Google to work with Gmail.
I use Gmail to forward to my Hotmail account, which is then picked up on Windows Live.
Works great!
just use google sync to push gmail
Gmail works great on my HD2, you just have to correctly set the account in Active Sync :
Server : m.google.fr
Mail : [email protected]
Pass: Your password (And check the box to store it)
Domain : Left blank
Then you can choose to synchronize Contacts, Calendar and mail but be sure not to check task (Otherwise you will get an error while syncing).
Then in Active Sync you have to set when the phone will check for new items, you have to say "when new items arrive" and check the box to allow while on Edge and 3G.
Normally every thing should work great.
I get mail quite quickly and my calendar and contacts are always up to date on the phone, the computer and the web!
the prob is i dont use gmail. i use hotmail and my work email is being hosted by mail2world.net so i need those to work. Im sure there is a free pushmail server for winmo i just havent found it yet.
Try www.momail.com . It works great for me
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I see that you are on Tmobile UK. Do you use the standard web'n'walk for this push service?
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I am on T-mobile UK, I do have standard WnW.
Push Gmail works fine on my HD2 both T-mobile 1.43 & HTC 1.66 (as it did on my old TytnII).
I simply followed these instructions to access my email
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
Actually my ISP is Sky who email service uses re branded Google mail. I have my own domains for email. Because they insist on tagging my outgoing mail address/domain with their moniker, hardly professional, I use a 3rd party SMTP server (from the Skyusermail forum) for outgoing mail. All set up from within the HD2 messaging utility & transparent in use with no additional input.
I only sync my mail to Google. For privacy, Contacts, Calendar, Favourites & OneNote I sync to my Vista32 computer via USB (upgrading to Bluetooth in a couple of days). I found, when INITIALLY setting up the PHONE syncs, I have to add them ONE TYPE AT A TIME in sequential syncs, or it fails After the initial set up, it behaves correctly syncing all automatically together.
As far as what that Pushed Gmail account reports, I went into its web control panel and got it to collect incoming mail from MANY other accounts. I now have a PUSH one stop shop, when mobile, for about a dozen entirely separate email accounts!
I no longer need an office to run my business affairs. I can run everything from my mobile. Huge overhead saving and much more leisure time. My business now interrupts my leisure pursuits instead of vice versa.... Worthwhile trade off for me.
I also have a few other email accounts being checked every few hours. Also my HD2 is hooked up to Windows live / Hotmail. (Need to reinstall Skype.)
MadBastard said:
Try www.momail.com . It works great for me
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momail doesn't work in my country
Have you ever tried mail2web.com? It works fine and it's quite fast.
try SEVEN it is great....though i notic it has some bug with the cooked ROM but not with the orginal ones
Hi,
Coming from a Windows Mobile device, I'm used to any email headers / part email that has been downloaded on my phone dissappearing (deleting) once it is no longer on my POP3 server.
Ie - It collects only the first 1kb header fine. If I wish to view the whole mail, i can choose to download the rest (which works). However, when my PC collects and removes the mail from the POP3 account, my windows mobile device when refreshed used to delete any part emails downloaded that were no longer on the POP3 server.
This way, my phone always showed (and only showed) non-collected mail. (Non collected meaning not yet collected on my PC).
Is there setting or method that I can use to have the same thing on my Android. I don't like the idea of having to delete (literally) hundreds of emails a week from my 'droid. I only want to view those not yet on my PC.
Thanks
Adza
From what I can tell it's not possible to do with the standard software.
I've tried K-9 and while it does what I want in that area, there's no option to download only xxx Kb.
I've installed a program from SEVEN (in BETA) which appears to have all the features, except that it's still in BETA, and it wants to send an SMS message to them everytime I add an account.
Sure is a nice app though.