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How do you PUSH (email, that is)?

I'm looking to partake of some vendor's service for the purpose of PUSH functionality. What does everyone here use? Their own MSE box, hosted Exchange, 4smartphone.net, web2mail.com, or some other service?
Personal Notes
- 4smartphone.net looks like the best, but you have to pay a year in advance (no monthly payments). Forget that.
- web2mail.com doesn't look like it supports SP2 which enables Push.
- I don't have a license to run my own Exchange box
- Other hosting services chanrge $15+/month and mostly without SP2.
What else are the choices out there? Now that we have ROM's that support it, I would assume MANY people will be looking for a solution on the server side.

Use vgsmail and keep your current mail server.
http://www.vgsmail.com/ppc/

Anyone else? This should be a pretty active thread... but only one response.
BTW, I saw someone mentioned www.utica.nl

jeremyjoslin said:
Anyone else? This should be a pretty active thread... but only one response.
BTW, I saw someone mentioned www.utica.nl
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I use 4smartphone.net as of yesterday -
I've set up mail forwarding from my belfast-biker.com domain to the 4smartphone one, it sync beautifully, BUT...!
It syncs lovely between OWA (I think that's it, the web-based Outlook thing) and the Exec, but there seems no link with my normal Outlook, and I'm sure there should be.
Also, when I receive emails, they go to my device, and my OWN, but not to my normal Outlook anymore, I'm sure it's coz I've failed to establish a link I should have done.... any help?

Push Mail for FREE!!

Sign up live.mail2web.com and use push mail on your WM5 devices for FREE!! (Your WM5 must have push mail enabled - aka AKU2)
Setting on your WM5 Device ActiveSync
- add server source..
Server name: mobile.exchange.mail2web.com
User name: [yourusername]@mail2web.com
Domain: ad2
Just forward mail from your current email account to this new one or use mail2web for your main mail account.
and let me know if your battery draining at double rate or not when using push mail..
Hope this helps anyone who wants to try push mail technology.

Nutdhanai: this is useful info, but FYI, it's fairly well known info.
But it's useful to have it again, I suppose!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sea...dir=DESC&show_results=topics&return_chars=200
V

vijay555 said:
Nutdhanai: this is useful info, but FYI, it's fairly well known info.
But it's useful to have it again, I suppose!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sea...dir=DESC&show_results=topics&return_chars=200
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Yea i thought i ve seen this here before, I saw someone asking about push mail service in other forums so I thought someone may need the info here too..

great I was gonna ask about this as I've tried emoze with no result
how do I set up the AKU2 for an exec on tmobile uk,will it run ok?

i am aware of this, but wanted to know if anyone had an idea as to how to change the reply-to address???
I have emails forwarded to the mail2web account so i can get the exchange sync on my Wizard but do not reply to them from it as i do not want that email address to be avaliable

mail2web
Ive been using the paid service of mail2web (i liked the free service enough that i wanted a full service) for the last 3 months now, in europe, in china the push email has worked great (no i dont work for them, but geeze when something just works its nice).
1) get the free account at www.mail2web.com
2) choose your [email protected]
3) redirect all your email to your mail2web.com address
4) when u want to reply to something simply setup an imap, or pop3
account that you never poll, so when u want to reply to an email,
switch account, new, send email. its a bit cludgy, we need a better
email client that allows us to adjust the from address.
a.

As far as I am aware, it is something they have to do at the server end. I spoke to them about it and changing the domain of the reply address is one of the features of their buisness packages.
However, they did say that they are thinking of adding this to the personal package soon (don't know if that includes the free one or not!)
Hope this helps!
Si

Mudstuffin said:
As far as I am aware, it is something they have to do at the server end. I spoke to them about it and changing the domain of the reply address is one of the features of their buisness packages.
However, they did say that they are thinking of adding this to the personal package soon (don't know if that includes the free one or not!)
Hope this helps!
Si
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That would be awesome. I currently use a forwarding-account from http://www.pobox.com and would like to be able to use my Pobox-address as the default address from Mail2Web-live.
--Marc

Re: mail2web
ftg888 said:
when u want to reply to something simply setup an imap, or pop3
account that you never poll, so when u want to reply to an email,
switch account, new, send email. its a bit cludgy, we need a better
email client that allows us to adjust the from address.
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You can simply reply to emails through the mail client, it will send them from your mail2web account.

Just followed the instruction and got the push mail work perfectly, but some question to ask here, can i know what's the different between this setup and if I setup a pop mail with auto connect option enabled?

Pop mail will check mail at the intervals you specify.
Push mail keeps a data link open to the server and gets the mail as soon as it arives.

AlanJC said:
Pop mail will check mail at the intervals you specify.
Push mail keeps a data link open to the server and gets the mail as soon as it arives.
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For the pushmail to work, does our phone require to be connnected to the internet either throught wifi or GPRS or other services offered by the mobile service provider?

Yes, it needs internet access.
GPRS is what it's designed to work with as this stays active while he phone is in standby. It will work with WiFi, but while the phone is in standby it will try to connect by GPRS if you have a connection available.
It could in theory work on a Bluetooth PAN with internet access, but I haven't tried this.

ok i have mail2web set up but push email is not working. I have a t-mobile MDA with the new T-Mobile US ROM (the t-mobile provided rom) and if i send recieve i get my email but so far i have not received a push email..... any thoughts..... directpush is green in the connection manager.....

i have the mda for t-mobile usa too
go to active sync on the mda and then
Menu
Schedule
and change to "As Items Arrive"
when you do that it will say you can get items imediatelly or something like that and it asks for your device address [email protected]
and there you go

Thanks buddy works perfect!

very very useful, very pleased with it now on my vario ii.
It Sync's contacts and calender too, so for backup purposes its fantastic

Is it possible to push from two different servers?
I have been using gmail for a long time. My biggest complaint is that everytime I sync it deletes all of the information that was downloaded the last time I synced. Someone recomended mail2web.com to use as an exchange server which works great. I didn't know my wizard could do push mail. Now that it does I would like to download my work email and my gmail, but keep them seperate. Is that possible? If it isn't does anyone know of a pop or imap service that works better then gmail? Thanks a bunch.
-Ross

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gunsandrosses said:
I have been using gmail for a long time. My biggest complaint is that everytime I sync it deletes all of the information that was downloaded the last time I synced. Someone recomended mail2web.com to use as an exchange server which works great. I didn't know my wizard could do push mail. Now that it does I would like to download my work email and my gmail, but keep them seperate. Is that possible? If it isn't does anyone know of a pop or imap service that works better then gmail? Thanks a bunch.
-Ross
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In Gmail you can select the option of leaving a copy of your mail in Gmail account in Options.

I use mail2web.com with free live services and it work's well.
But i don't understand why deleted items folders and drafts folders are not sync. I've look at the activ sync stteings but i didn't found how to make those folfers sync. with my Tytn.
Is there some people that have those folders Sync. ?
Is it a limitation for free services at Mail2web ?
thanks for answer

Exchange Server email program

I've searched for this particular issue and basically haven't found a solution for the Pocket PC but I know one must be out there. Here's my problem:
I've got two Exchange Server accounts I need to sync on the same device (HTC Fuze, a.k.a. HTC-4600) as well as some POP3 email accounts. However, I specifically do not want to sync the calendar information from either Exchange account. I need a third party program, I'd imagine, to accomplish this.
I've seen where people have said it can't be done but I've been doing this for years on a Treo 650 and Treo 680 using ChatterMail+ application, which does just this. However, that's a Palm OS application and I've moved on to Windows Mobile 6.1. I figure there's got to be something out there similar to ChatterMail (which is only for the Palm OS). With one Exchange Account I've actually got access to the full Outlook integration on the desktop (although I don't want it) and with the other I'm limited to Outlook Web Access anyway.
Does anyone know of any software that can accomplish this on the WM6.1 platform? Any help is appreciated.
By the way, that's two exchange server email accounts (but just the "Inbox" from each - not the calendar, contacts, notes, etc.) on one AT&T Fuze (a.k.a. HTC Raphael 101) while still syncing the calendar, contacts, notes, (Everything but email) with my PC. Anyone got any ideas or am I ignoring some feature of the Fuze?

i believe all you need to do is go into server settings and deselect the calendar sync. also i think from WinMo 5 on we can sync to 2 and up to (i maybe wrong) 4 exchange servers.

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flipfone said:
i believe all you need to do is go into server settings and deselect the calendar sync. also i think from WinMo 5 on we can sync to 2 and up to (i maybe wrong) 4 exchange servers.
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Thanks for the reply, but that's not quite what I'm looking for. I didn't explain it very well in the original post but the two exchange servers only allow the OWA interface; they do not have IMAP4 or anything enabled. That program on the PalmOS, Chattermail++ with the Exchange plug-in, allowed those two accounts to sync the email somehow despite the limitations imposed by those exchange servers.
Also, I have to keep calendar checked because I want it to sync with my desktop Outlook calendar (I run my work OS in a virtual machine, so one of my Exchange Server accounts is in Outlook on a VM, that way I keep my personal and work appointments separate). That Chattermail++ did all this, so I'm really looking for a replacement for that program. I've settled on Flexmail4, and the only drawback to that is there's no exchange plug-in to get me into the OWA like on the PalmOS. But, that may have been a one-of-a-kind thing.

ok you can disable calendar in one server and not the other the settings are separate or all servers. but i know nothing about owa settings and syncro. Sorry i cant help ya except maybe you may wish to run a palm emulator so that you can run chattermail? Just a thought, i personally wouldnt want to run that way.Either way please post your findings im interested.

I've been playing around with the two browsers (Opera and IE) included to access OWA. The Opera browser will remember my login credentials for me, which is very handy, but it has a very strange glitch when loading the OWA pages; most of the time it will chop off the top part of the page if you are at all zoomed in (zooming in is mandatory if you want to actually read your email using Opera). The top of the OWA pages, unfortunately, is where "Reply, Reply All, Forward, Delete, etc." commands are located. You're unable to scroll up to them or zoom out to see them, which pretty much makes OWA unusable in Opera. Using IE to access OWA is better since the entire page is accessible. However, the left-hand frame with the "Inbox, Folders, Options, Logoff, etc." menu takes up over half of the screen even on landscape mode. So you've got to click and drag to expand the actual message area. Also, IE does not remember my login settings for OWA which is a pain.
So that's the state of my findings at present. The PPC program "Chronobis" (http://www.chronobis.com/) has got the right idea on the functionality I'm looking for, except it can sync everything but email! That's the kind of functionality (interaction with OWA) that I need for the exchange server email accounts.

Push mail with two servers

I was searching the forum, and elsewhere, and could not get a way of solving the issues..
Problem:
1. Exchange server (office related) is occupying 'push mail' using ActiveSync definitions. Works just fine.
2. Google APPS - although it can push mail, I have to connect as IMAP or POP account , losing push mail. Works fine as well..
However- recently I have a need to get notified right away when I get an email on my google account. I can use activeSync to push google, but my current exchange server does not have POP or IMAP. I tried changing the intervals of checking my google account (using IMAP) to every 5 minutes. That works kind of OK, but my battery drainage increased to a point I have to charge before i get back home.
I looked into solutions like Chronobilis, but it did not work. I need mainly emails, not calendar and contacts to be pushed (obviously). Even a paid service is nice, but I can not use a 3rd party service if my emails are sent to an un-authorized 3rd party server, especially if servers may reside outside the US.
Any ideas?

Possible solution...
Have you tried the SEVEN Beta Program? It does provide push email capabilities for free. I used it awhile back to have multiple email accounts from Exchange and Gmail pushed to my phone.
URL: http://community.seven.com/main.php

BigE said:
However- recently I have a need to get notified right away when I get an email on my google account. I can use activeSync to push google, but my current exchange server does not have POP or IMAP. I tried changing the intervals of checking my google account (using IMAP) to every 5 minutes. That works kind of OK, but my battery drainage increased to a point I have to charge before i get back home.
Any ideas?
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I would try a demo of touchdown from the market it can activesync i dont recall if it can do multiple accounts or not but I thinks not but YMMV.

Seven ! that's it !!!
WOW...
Tried the solution offered , using SEVEN, and it is great. Was not only able to pusg Gmail and Exchange at the same time, but I am getting rid of ActiveSync I never liked...
Thanks guys. Prompt answer, and a damn good one too..
bigE

[Q] mail app not syncing

I just can't get the mail app to sync. So the live tile has never shown anything, and it is on. It just never syncs! I have to check mail from my phone or open the gmail in the desktop browser. This is bad as this is my only computer.

Have you turned off notifications for mail somehow? Charms-Settings-Change PC settings-Notifications?

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Have you turned off notifications for mail somehow? Charms-Settings-Change PC settings-Notifications?
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no, I just checked again. They are on.

Do you use any mail accounts other than Gmail? If so, and those aren't working either, then there's some other problem.
However, if it's just Gmail, you can think Google for that. They disabled adding new devices using Exchange ActiveSync connections to Gmail a few weeks ago. Feel free to write them a nasty-gram about it; it seems a pretty dickish move on their part IMO (note that existing connections still work, they just don't allow new ones). Not that they're obligated to provide any such service, but bull**** like this is why I don't rely on "cloud" services to any extent that I can help it; when you don't control the service, you are at the mercy of service provider's whims.
As a work-around, enable IMAP access in Gmail settings, and then manually add the IMAP/SMTP account to your Mail app on the tablet. That should work fine, but you'll lose a lot of the integration benefits; things like contacts and calendars and such will need to use different services instead of all going through EAS.

GoodDayToDie said:
Do you use any mail accounts other than Gmail? If so, and those aren't working either, then there's some other problem.
However, if it's just Gmail, you can think Google for that. They disabled adding new devices using Exchange ActiveSync connections to Gmail a few weeks ago. Feel free to write them a nasty-gram about it; it seems a pretty dickish move on their part IMO (note that existing connections still work, they just don't allow new ones). Not that they're obligated to provide any such service, but bull**** like this is why I don't rely on "cloud" services to any extent that I can help it; when you don't control the service, you are at the mercy of service provider's whims.
As a work-around, enable IMAP access in Gmail settings, and then manually add the IMAP/SMTP account to your Mail app on the tablet. That should work fine, but you'll lose a lot of the integration benefits; things like contacts and calendars and such will need to use different services instead of all going through EAS.
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I have a yahoo account on it too. But that also doesn't work.

Have you tried syncing manually using the Mail app? Open the app, right-click or swipe from top or bottom, and select Sync. If it doesn't work, you should get an error message.
For what it's worth, my Surface RT happily syncs both my Gmail and Yahoo accounts, in addition to several others (my work account which is also over EAS but to an actual Exchange server, my old university account which is the same, and a personal IMAP account).

GoodDayToDie said:
Have you tried syncing manually using the Mail app? Open the app, right-click or swipe from top or bottom, and select Sync. If it doesn't work, you should get an error message.
For what it's worth, my Surface RT happily syncs both my Gmail and Yahoo accounts, in addition to several others (my work account which is also over EAS but to an actual Exchange server, my old university account which is the same, and a personal IMAP account).
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Yes, most of the time that works. I don't get an error message. But sometimes I know I have an email, because my phone will tell me. But I will hit sync like five times and I can't see any new emails.

started having the same problem
my mail app has also started having syncing issues... this is with both outlook and gmail!! it was working very well 3 days ago... does anyone have the same issues?!

I have the same problem. Mail stops auto syncing and live tile no longer works. Only way to fix it is to uninstall the app, reboot, reinstall and then it works again... for a while then stops syncing again =(

tboy2000 said:
I have the same problem. Mail stops auto syncing and live tile no longer works. Only way to fix it is to uninstall the app, reboot, reinstall and then it works again... for a while then stops syncing again =(
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Read the end of this article - particularly if you are syncing gmail from other devices in addition to the Surface - as you will be hitting the gmail single POP access problem: http://woodygems.wordpress.com/2007/01/24/hello-world/