I'm having a hard time understanding why European GPRS vendors make a distinction between email, internet, and WAP services, and consequently I don't know what service to ask for when I purchase a PAYG SIM when I travel.
My primary GPRS interest is
SMTP for the handset's email client for IMAP (both google and exchange server accounts)
ActiveSync for contacts/calendar synchronization.
RSS reading, resulting in some cases some podcast downloading
Tethering via WMWiFiRouter
as you can see, i'm not a big HTML user, if at all.
What key terms and phrases should I look out for in the service descriptions in order to get the right internet service I need?
A specific example would be the ambiguity Vodafone Romania has between the email mobile vs internet mobile descriptions and the related APN differences "live.vodafone.com" and "internet.vodafone.com".
Also, for some reason T-Mobile UK is not included in the excellent list given over in the thread GPRS/Internet Connection Settings for the whole world thread. seems like it should be on page 4 but it's not. any reason for that, and does anyone know the APN settings for TMO/UK?
Lastly, what is an example of a WAP service?
Thanks in advance.
there is no universal answer to this
they made a big mess of it indeed. want to trick customers
wap service:
in most cases it won't let you out of vendor's special web page. there you have access to services to check your credit, payments, company info, some ringtone, music shops... mostly useless stuff.
ah and with windows mobile, there is no official way of setting it up. you can use 'work' and set some rules for wap.* ....anyway, you don't want that.
email:
in most cases this service will allow you to access only email on vendor's server.
e.g. [email protected]
in another case you'll have POP, IMAP, SMTP and maybe activesync allowed and web browsing limited to vendor's address.
yet another case is your data plan is small, means you'll pay for 1MB more
for rss you would need full internet anyway.
in general, if you have "internet" service, it have everything in it.
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hello guys, if first like to start off by saying that i did try searching but was unable to find a solution. I currently have my email address at msn.com. I'd like to be able to access my email and recieve notifications of new emails on my phone.i realize that windows live program does not work with the tmobile proxy, so i found a program that forwards email from msn to gmail.com so i figured id use outlook to check my forwarded email, but outlook wont connect through the proxy. what im asking now is whether theres a program out there that allows me to check my email (msn.com or gmail.com) through the tmobile proxy? thanks in advance and all answers are appreciated.
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I think you might be a little mistaken. The 5.99 T-mobile plan includes unlimitted free e-mail. As long as your outlook e-mail uses a standard port (which gmail does), then you don't need to use any sort of proxy or anything to get it to work, it just works.
If you do have the proxy set up, then you would need to make a second wap profile that circumvents the proxy.
IMO, what's really needed for these phones, and might even be on the cards with Google's licensing of the Exchange ActiveSync protocol, is a BES (Blackberry Enterprise Server)-like relay package.
A piece of software that sits on a computer or server (or the server) in the office, and stays logged into each of your user's Exchange mailboxes via MAPI, then syncs messages, calendar, contacts etc. realtime to the Google Mail / Gmail account.
Shouldn't be very hard to create, especially for those who have written apps like GsyncIT.
I believe there already is one such package, I found it a few days ago, can't remember the name - it has an M in it ( ), but it looked a bit pricey and like it was intended to do more than just Exchange -> Gmail (was a generic Cloud-sync package).
A fairly simple extension of something like GsyncIT I should think. The Exchange Information Store ACLs would be modified so that user "GoogleSyncAdmin" has Full Mailbox access to the mailboxes concerned, and the users would be mapped to GoogleMail accounts. Job done, proper push synchronisation on Android. The handsets would just be registered to a Gmail account.
The alternative, which may also be on the cards for the same reason, is that Google develop a BIS (Blackberry Internet Service)-like extension to Gmail, whereby Gmail stays logged into your Exchange Account via ExchangeActiveSync, and pulls changes down. This would require working EAS on the user's Exchange Server, and would require providing Exchange credentials to Gmail. I guess it'd be just like their current POP-downloading facility, but for Exchange, and hopefully including Calendar & Contacts sync.
I prefer the BES-like solution personally. No ports need to be opened on the user's Exchange server, you could run multiple Exchange servers behind a no-inbound firewall, and it's probably less troublesome overall. The BES-like package could also inject hidden instruction-messages that control features of the handset, IT policy, block downloads, wipe data etc.
Doing exchange->[beslike software]->gmail->phone would mean that any messages sent from the device would come from your gmail account though, not your exchange account.
Much better to have a true exchange client on the device, then it works both ways.
Deicist said:
Doing exchange->[beslike software]->gmail->phone would mean that any messages sent from the device would come from your gmail account though, not your exchange account.
Much better to have a true exchange client on the device, then it works both ways.
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No, they would just allow you to set Reply-To/From: just like they do with your other existing emails addresses at the moment.
I think this device rapidly needs Exchange/Activesync support, Office Documents and USB internet sharing for free and quick.
I am testing this device for our company and unless it can do these well and ideally free then its a non-starter for us.
This is the product I had seen: http://www.cemaphore.com/index.html
Lowest pricing is $325/yr for 5 users with the online service, which isn't so expensive, but annual pricing is a pain, and can't buy less than 5 users.
cemaphore is buggy.
Their client crashes constantly, and says mail is sent that never really was. Avoid or wait till it's more stable in later versions.
Let me first apologize if this is a question which has been discussed at length in another area.
My company currently uses blackberrys with an enterprise exchange e-mail system (i suppose that is called BES with blackberrys, no?). Anyway, on my old blackberry, all I had to do was put in my corporate e-mail and an enterprise activation password. From there the setup would do the rest. Is there any way to get my new MyTouch phone to get hooked into the system the same way my blackberry was? Cost is irrelevant, I just want to find a solution.
I have looked at software options (i.e. touchdown, and the work email program) with no luck.
Thanks for any help the community could offer!
-Ryan
Sorry I got no answer, but this is ment to be posted in the general discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=492
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BES servers users BES accounts and they link are like this:
Blackberry <-> BES <-> Exchange
In Android, iPhone or Windows Mobile, you need your NT IAccount credentials as you communicate directly throw your phone to the Exchange server, like this:
Device <-> Exchange
So, probably what you need is:
-Name of the server (sometimes is the OWA(Outlook Web Access) address)
-Credentials (Sometimes is needed to have in your NT Account credentials for that, in the company I'm, we call it Active Sync Access).
-Username, Network login (NT ID)
-Domain
-Password
And... yeahhh this is general!!!
ral34c said:
Let me first apologize if this is a question which has been discussed at length in another area.
My company currently uses blackberrys with an enterprise exchange e-mail system (i suppose that is called BES with blackberrys, no?). Anyway, on my old blackberry, all I had to do was put in my corporate e-mail and an enterprise activation password. From there the setup would do the rest. Is there any way to get my new MyTouch phone to get hooked into the system the same way my blackberry was? Cost is irrelevant, I just want to find a solution.
I have looked at software options (i.e. touchdown, and the work email program) with no luck.
Thanks for any help the community could offer!
-Ryan
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Interesting.. so I believe I have everything outside the credentials part. If I have my old blackberry and my work laptop, can I obtain all the information to set up the MyTouch? If so, do you know how?
Thanks a bunch!
-Ryan
Ryan, what I tried to explain to you is that the BES (Blackberry Enterprise Server) account, you can only use to your Blackberry. Any of the information there, except the e-mail address you'll use to configure your exchange account in an Android phone.
There's also other issue, not all exchange accounts will be working with the normal exchange e-mail feature on the Android, the to the security policies of some companies.
I can help you configure that, no prob man.. This is the list of things that you need to ask your IT department on your company:
- Username
- Password (will be the same as your e-mail)
- Domain
- Server address (in some cases are the same as the webmail address (OWA - Outlook Web Access).
P.S.: Ask them if this access force security features on your phone. If it does, Android phones haven't passwords to unlock and won't match the requirements for having this feature on your phone. You'll need to download a program for that (I don't remember what was that, but in the general section, you'll find as other person indicated me).
And you'll be set...
My best regards,
R
you need to also make sure that on your exchange account, they have Microsoft Activesync enabled on your account in order to allow mobile devices other than blackberry's can access corporate emails. you need to ask your admin on this part.
djchiena said:
you need to also make sure that on your exchange account, they have Microsoft Activesync enabled on your account in order to allow mobile devices other than blackberry's can access corporate emails. you need to ask your admin on this part.
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It was already mentioned before
G'day.
I've been running Exchange 2003 for myself and a couple of winmo using friends for around a year now, but I really want to use Exchange 2010 for its SMS features and better Outlook web access.
Unfortunately due to the hardware requirement of the latest Exchange, it is not financially tenable for me to host it for a small group. So I was wondering if you guys would like to be hosted for?
Exchange 2010 features specific to winmo (6.5+);
-SMS Sync'ing/backup
-SMS response from Outlook/OWA
-Push
Naturally there is the usual exchange features of contacts/calenders/etc. Don't think I will be able to do Voicemail without messing around with a SIP provider.
I'll also add host server using applications that people think would be nice. For me, that would be TrackMe - others may have other ideas which I will have no issue adding provided it is possible, and it can be shared for us all. Will also be able to allow users to point there own domains at the server, and send from them.
I imagine I should be able to allow mailbox sizes to go between 2-6GB, depending on how many people are interested.
So for this poll, would you be willing to pay $5 towards such a service? I'll try serve for as many people as possible, but I won't oversell the space. Could upgrade specs as and when necessary though .
Feel free to ask me any questions about my idea!
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Exchange is good stuff. I don't think that many people realize the many benefits of using it!
Intrested yes
But a few questions, what about reilibility if your server breaks? are we going to have to change our email addresses?? lastly how fast is your connection as you could get quite a few accounts ???
Thanks
dr_strangetrick said:
Intrested yes
But a few questions, what about reilibility if your server breaks? are we going to have to change our email addresses?? lastly how fast is your connection as you could get quite a few accounts ???
Thanks
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There are a number of ways you can ensure mail delivery without the intervention of the Exchange server
-1. Setup a secondary mail account, and a forwarder as your second MX entry in your DNS config (provided you have your own domain - 123reg.co.uk do this for example)
-2. Wait. The message will be delivered eventually. SMTP servers tend to retry for awhile until successful.
I doubt I will add our own backup exchange server. Although I will backup mailboxes so if the server does die for whatever reason, they can be restored when it is fixed.
Yes, you will be able to use your own domain to receive, and send mail from the server. Obviously, this won't work with domains you don't own (hotmail, gmail etc). So yes, you can use your own email address. Should that be an issue, I will provide a generic address such as [email protected]
As for connection speed - this is not something I would be hosting on my home connection, although it would handle it fine. Home connections are often blacklisted by destination SMTP servers. The server will be in a datacenter with either a 10mbit or 100mbit uplink, in the country where most our users are. However, it is unlikely I will allow more than 30 users on our server due to mailbox storage considerations. I only want enough people to make the server financially viable for myself, I am not out to profit.
Besides, judging from the poll so far, I don't think I'll have enough users to start!
I actually have a hosting setup for a few XDA users. I charge $50/year with "unlimited" storage - I haven't seen any mailboxes grow uncontrollably thus far, so we'll see how it goes. I have two mailbox servers (for those of you in the know, yes, it is a DAG) to ensure uptime. Both servers have RAID 1 hard drives. One is hosted in a datacenter in Chicago (Ubiquity) using a Dell PowerEdge 1950. The backup server is self hosted at home - so mail access may be slow if the primary goes down.
Let me know if you guys want more details.