Battery or phone? - G1 Android Development

Hi i tried searching this entire forum for a thread on this but couldn't seem to find one. My problem is that my phone has been getting really hot lately towards the chin area (I know you guys are probably thinking, oh no not another hot chin area problem, but it's different, I think). The strange part is that it has been getting hot while I'm talking on the phone and the battery has been dying EXTREMELY fast, this is happening not only while charging but when on a full battery, because this morning I had a full charge and talked on the phone for about 15-20 minutes and I was already at 75%, which is really odd. So my question is if this is a battery problem or a hardware problem, which I hope is a battery problem because I'm sick and tired of getting a phone replacement, the one I have is my fourth replacement and I'm not looking forward to a fifth. Thank you
EDIT: okay for some reason I uninstalled that Lock 2.0 app, and it seems as though my battery life has gotten better, but not sure if it solved that call issue, will update again when I do.
EDIT EDIT: Alright I tested it through a phone call and it hasn't changed at all. I literally watched my battery level go from 32 to 21 in 6 minutes of a call and the battery temp went from 30 degrees Celsius to 35 degrees.

the only thing i can suggest is to get a new battery and see if that's whats causing it. if that doesn't help then, i'm afraid, it seems your phone's ****ed

ya i just called HTC and they are sending me a replacement battery as we speak, very good service. I ALSO called tmobile (surprisingly great service this time, after a billion others) and they have a g1 replacement for me as well but I will wait till i get the replacement battery first to see if its just the battery, if not then I guess I'm forced to get ANOTHER G1!

Gunnygt49 said:
Hi i tried searching this entire forum for a thread on this but couldn't seem to find one. My problem is that my phone has been getting really hot lately towards the chin area (I know you guys are probably thinking, oh no not another hot chin area problem, but it's different, I think). The strange part is that it has been getting hot while I'm talking on the phone and the battery has been dying EXTREMELY fast, this is happening not only while charging but when on a full battery, because this morning I had a full charge and talked on the phone for about 15-20 minutes and I was already at 75%, which is really odd. So my question is if this is a battery problem or a hardware problem, which I hope is a battery problem because I'm sick and tired of getting a phone replacement, the one I have is my fourth replacement and I'm not looking forward to a fifth. Thank you
EDIT: okay for some reason I uninstalled that Lock 2.0 app, and it seems as though my battery life has gotten better, but not sure if it solved that call issue, will update again when I do.
EDIT EDIT: Alright I tested it through a phone call and it hasn't changed at all. I literally watched my battery level go from 32 to 21 in 6 minutes of a call and the battery temp went from 30 degrees Celsius to 35 degrees.
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I was having very similar issues. I uninstalled Lock 2.0 and it since has stopped. Apparently that app running in the background sucks down the battery life.

Gunnygt49 said:
ya i just called HTC and they are sending me a replacement battery as we speak, very good service. I ALSO called tmobile (surprisingly great service this time, after a billion others) and they have a g1 replacement for me as well but I will wait till i get the replacement battery first to see if its just the battery, if not then I guess I'm forced to get ANOTHER G1!
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semes to be happening on g1's ... mine died, then came back then died, then came back... now it cant stay on for more than 20 min...
and it started by it getting really really hot when talking... and i thought to my self.. hmm this is "normal" since this phone is known to get slightly hot... and i never had lock 2.0 installed.
i havent called htc , and tmobile would jsut laugh at me since im not even in the usa....
we could be looking at a "hardware issue" since i did an ebay search and found about 3 g1's that are dead due to the same heat/ powering off issue

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[Q] Should i Keep it or exchange it? battery life question

i have my g2x rooted and running great the only problem is battery life i went from a full charge to 65 percent in about 2 and a half hrs! with just sending a few texts and chatting on skype for about 10 min, i called tmobile and here are my options i can wait till may 5th and they can just send me a battery or i can take it back and risk getting a defective one! I have never had any random reboots or freezing so far! except when i deleted some tmobile bloatware i got a couple fc's and had to restart then everything was fine! what should i do?
What processes are running in the background? Which task killer app are you running with what kill frequency?
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why may 5th
danz8509 said:
i have my g2x rooted and running great the only problem is battery life i went from a full charge to 65 percent in about 2 and a half hrs! with just sending a few texts and chatting on skype for about 10 min, i called tmobile and here are my options i can wait till may 5th and they can just send me a battery or i can take it back and risk getting a defective one! I have never had any random reboots or freezing so far! except when i deleted some tmobile bloatware i got a couple fc's and had to restart then everything was fine! what should i do?
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why would you have to wait until may 5th for a replacement of a defective item. and it is defective if you do the right thing with it let it drain all the way than fully charge a couple times.
I have an up time off charger for 22 hours now some texting , some messing with phone a couple calls. and still at 67% intentially testing to see how it did. in mainly standby with minimal use. when i get my hdmi cord tommorow ill start pushing it . want to make sure it doesnt over heat or burn up like some report.
But by may 5th the 2 weeks will be up and if its something other than the battery it will be more difficult to get replaced. a year warrenty at least and if you have insurance with tmobile it covers everything that is a phone defect with no deductable(i was told) so just more of a pain.
keep doing what ever your doing run that puppy until it dies and recharge leave on for 2 hours after it says its charged and see if its any better. if not id look more into why you have to wait for may 5th to get a replacement.
After clearing all the crap off the phone, I left mine on most of the day. After eight hours comprised of about and hour talking, a fair mount of browsing the web, etc, and most of it with wifi calling active, I'm at 50%.
nothing really i use auto killer memory to close what ever i open
i have tried the drain the battery all the way down and they still didnt work! i tried the reset the phone as well i guess i will take it back, one question tho do i have to unroot and return the tmobile apps for them to take it back?
eagle1967 said:
I have an up time off charger for 22 hours now some texting , some messing with phone a couple calls. and still at 67% intentially testing to see how it did. in mainly standby with minimal use. when i get my hdmi cord tommorow ill start pushing it . want to make sure it doesnt over heat or burn up like some report.
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I would love to be able to get that kind of battery life lol...are you doing anything special for that?
I think the top part goes really fast and it will take a long time to get from 50% to 0. Also, it's just in the first few days I think it will act a little differently after a few charges.
edit: why are you guys using taskkillers or autokiller?
worker1 said:
I think the top part goes really fast and it will take a long time to get from 50% to 0. Also, it's just in the first few days I think it will act a little differently after a few charges.
edit: why are you guys using taskkillers or autokiller?
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I was going to ask the same thing. Wouldn't this make the battery worse, if anything?
do i have to unroot and return the tmobile apps for them to take it back? please let me know
I'm also considering returning it but first I will wait for few days and see if it gets better. However I was wondering, what is tmobile's return policy for off contract phones? Is it true that you can return it anytime within a month?
danz8509 said:
do i have to unroot and return the tmobile apps for them to take it back? please let me know
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Yes you do. Rooting voids any warranty you have on the device.
i was told 14 days buyers remorse period is what the tmobile said when i called today
danz8509 said:
i was told 14 days buyers remorse period is what the tmobile said when i called today
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That's correct but I would still imagine that rooting your phone could void this in the same way it voids any warranty.

And I thought I was one of the lucky ones...

Had the g2x since launch day, loved the speed, size, etc. Never had a single reboot (actually did once or twice while charging in the first few days), screen bleed and had fairly good battery life to boot with fairly heavy usage. What more can you ask for, right?
So fast forward to today...i was in the middle of typing a text and battery died, I was at 1%. So I plug it in, turn it on and then it got really hot and non stop rebooting only while on the charger. Taking it off the charger would stop the reboots, plug it in again reboot cycle again within minutes (no sound to warn me its rebooting, no start up animation).
Eventually when it was on the charger the battery icon looked really weird, it was completely white with 2 circular arrows in it, never seen that before, anyone know what that means.
After a while the phone cooled down and has now been charging for he last hour with no rebooting. I did call Tmo and they are sending me a new battery and handset.
I am unsure what to do, keep mine since it appears to be fine now or keep the replacement items. I am not rooted completely stock with minimal apps installed.
I really, really dont feel like setting up all my prefs again and reinstalling apps. One thing is for sure i am seriuosly considering the HTC sensation now. Had the MT4G before and it was great, so my perception of HTC is high.
mikea3000 said:
Had the g2x since launch day, loved the speed, size, etc. Never had a single reboot (actually did once or twice while charging in the first few days), screen bleed and had fairly good battery life to boot with fairly heavy usage. What more can you ask for, right?
So fast forward to today...i was in the middle of typing a text and battery died, I was at 1%. So I plug it in, turn it on and then it got really hot and non stop rebooting only while on the charger. Taking it off the charger would stop the reboots, plug it in again reboot cycle again within minutes (no sound to warn me its rebooting, no start up animation).
Eventually when it was on the charger the battery icon looked really weird, it was completely white with 2 circular arrows in it, never seen that before, anyone know what that means.
After a while the phone cooled down and has now been charging for he last hour with no rebooting. I did call Tmo and they are sending me a new battery and handset.
I am unsure what to do, keep mine since it appears to be fine now or keep the replacement items. I am not rooted completely stock with minimal apps installed.
I really, really dont feel like setting up all my prefs again and reinstalling apps. One thing is for sure i am seriuosly considering the HTC sensation now. Had the MT4G before and it was great, so my perception of HTC is high.
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If you don't notice any problems, keep it
The same thing happened to me this morning
Battery health status OVERHEAT
took off battery cover, i powered off through menu, powered back on through button
WHITE BATTERY REFRESH LOGO followed by media scan
Working as good as ever, and actually my battery life is a little better
Get a new battery asap. Yours is bad if it's overhearing during charge.
diablos991 said:
Get a new battery asap. Yours is bad if it's overhearing during charge.
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im kind of in the same boat as the op but not as bad on the overheating. how do i get a new battery? i bought from amazon and its past the return period.
My opinion of LG is really low. First the sd card slot died on my Optimus T and then numerous problems with my returned G2x. I hate to say it, but the grass is definitely greener on the HTC side right now. I will be checking out the sensation if permaroot happens.
yup, mine did the same thing. all was good for a month or so then boom my battery just freaked out. I wrestled with it a few days then last night it went from 100% - 0% in 6hrs while powered off. It's the battery. Get a new one.
Mine doesn't reboot...it just shuts off. Won't turn back on until I yank the battery. Only issue happens like once a day. But ill point out I'm now pissed Droid x gets gb Friday and I'm still using froyo...granted.by choice because I refuse to use a leak.
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ericc191 said:
My opinion of LG is really low. First the sd card slot died on my Optimus T and then numerous problems with my returned G2x. I hate to say it, but the grass is definitely greener on the HTC side right now. I will be checking out the sensation if permaroot happens.
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Not to change subject here but permaroot doesn't do much if the bootloader is locked. Gaining root doesn't mean custom roms or mods. You'll be able to use Titanium Backup but so what.
Also, back on topic. There are lots of reports that the batteries are bad and if it is over heating I'd definatly replace it.
Tmo sent me a replacement G2x after I thought I fried mine. I fixed it eventually by flashing several CWM recoveries. The replacement had nasty screen bleed. Needless-to-say I sent the replacement packing.
I was using my phone all day yesterday like usual I let my battery die all the way before charging again and today for some reason my battery is dying quickly.
Took off the charger at 6 am and it is now 11am and I have only 50% usually I have 70% or so. I hope my battery is not crapping out on me... I guess Ill find out in the next few days maybe this is just a fluke... I hope...
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Not to change subject here but permaroot doesn't do much if the bootloader is locked. Gaining root doesn't mean custom roms or mods. You'll be able to use Titanium Backup but so what.
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Good thing it's not gonna be locked then eh?
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/htc-decides-to-unlock-bootloaders-moving-forward/
RevenG said:
Good thing it's not gonna be locked then eh?
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/htc-decides-to-unlock-bootloaders-moving-forward/
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It is locked and HTC said this policy applies only moving forward. Which means future phones. There is no word about existing phones yet.
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I am on my third G2x. From the day I received the last one(3 weeks ago) it has been rock solid(NO reboots-no screen freezes- no dropping data connections). Two days ago I bought a router and decided to use wifi in my home. Since hooking it up and running the G2X on it I find that I have reboots-screen freezes and oh yes data connection dropped (numerous times)I guess the wifi is just not meant for this phone. 3 weeks of happy usage and bam!! wifi in the house. I have also had apps changing settings without my doing so( never happened before wifi usage<) Also now the Gps is even worse than before.Been running it without the wifi and still getting the same issues now. Oh how I wish I had just stopped after the second one and asked for refund. This could (and probably will be eventually) a super super phone. I just don't know if I have the patience to wait . I just ordered an Asus Transformer which will be here on 5/31/11, maybe playing with it will soften my stance on how I view the G2x at this moment. Anyone else had the wifi situation?
I'm rooted with cwm. I have random freezes but it appears to only be random kernels. As well as only certain versions of android. Once the gb update comes out, I'm sure alot of our problems will clear up...
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[Q] Strange power problem

My HTC Sensation seems to have a very strange power problem and I am hoping someone can help. Around four months ago my phone started switching itself off when I went to do something, it could be read a text, make a call or maybe send a text. What I noticed is when I turned the phone back on the battery level would jump down, it could “lose” 20-60% of its battery life.
If I then put it on charge it would never return to 100% unless I restarted it, it was almost as if the phone didn’t recognise the % of battery it had “lost”. This could happen many times a day and once it switched itself off around 15-20 times as I tried to make a phone call when hiking in the mountains.
The only time it keeps working is if it is connected to a power source. Also when it does switch off I notice it becomes quite hot at the bottom of the screen.
I swapped batteries with my girlfriend who has the Sensation XE and with her battery my phone worked fine but with my battery her touchscreen wasn’t as responsive as normal which was very strange.
I was running the HTC stock firmware but I moved to CyanogenMod to play with it and see if it was a software issue but the problem continues with CyanogenMod.
I spoke to HTC but they said I was out with my 12 month accessory warranty so I’d have to buy a new battery. The problem kept happening and it drove me round the bend for a while until I just decided I’d buy an Anker battery. I’ve had it for almost two months and all was going well until yesterday when my phone turned itself off as I tried to send a text.
Since then it must have turned itself off around 6 times either trying to make a call, read a text or send one.
Does anyone have any ideas? I thought it was just a dud battery at first but now with the exact same thing happening to the second one I wonder if it’s something else.
Thanks
try to put a piece of paper or something to fit where the battery connects with the device
maybe loses somehow the connection
best wishes
Hi Lsmith,
This issue seems to happen on many Sensation devices... but there is hope!
Sometimes it's due to a custom Rom or due to a let's say "faulty" connection between battery and the connectors of your device.
- I would first suggest to charge your phone up to 100% (if possible). After that, perform a reset (make a backup) and look how your device behaves.
- If you still detect the same behavior follow this thread ->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531232 (check out the last picture). This is the so called paper trick...
For me it's enough placing a folded paper on the battery itself, covering part of the sim card. Just try out what suits you best.
Cheers
tneS morf ym noitasenS gnisu klatapaT
Thanks guys, I'll take a look at that thread.

[Q] Mytouch 4G Slide bricked while using

I installed a stable version of cyanogenmod 9 on my phone and the system was working perfectly, but I spent some time without using it because it didn't have any signal(I think its aerial is broken). After some time I decided to try to fix it, so I turned it on. It booted normally, but shortly it turned off by itself. Then I tried to turned it on again successfully, but again it turned off. I thought it was the battery so I plugged the phone, but it wasn't showing any sign of being charged. So I tried to charge the battery out of the phone and I checked its voltage, but when I put it back in the phone, it didn't work. The only thing I see, when I try to turn it on is a dim red light in the trackpad.
Any ideas of what happened? Is this reversible?
Thanks in advance.
I'm no expert, but it unfortunately sounds bricked to me.
Similar thing happened on my 1st MT4GS after like a week of owning it. We were on vacation and I was playing fruit ninja, slashing happily away as the phone was plugged in for bedtime. All of a sudden it turns off. I'm like WTF, it was charging! But it apparently wasn't, and similar symptoms to you. No other lights/charge/indication of anything working. Just the dim red light in the track pad I could get to go on and off. Since it was just over a month old after I got back from vacation, I wound up having to ship to HTC rather than walk out with a new one from t-mobile, but they sent me a replacement I've been using since.
So sorry I don't have better news, but it sounds like what happened to me, and it was dead and had to be replaced.
Hi,
This has happened to me two or three times but thankfully I have a few other devices so I needn't worry much.
When this happens I take out sim, SD and battery for a week or so. Upon reinserting battery all was good each time.
If you have a spare try it, I can't say for sure if we are on the same boat but its worth a shot before throwing it away.
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Here is a link that I and a few other discussed our issues, none the same but all similar.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2257451
Also there are plenty of other threads I seen on this as well, search around a bit and hopefully you'll find an answer
Best of luck!
So there's some threads I just shouldn't read ...
After coming across this today my phone has started turning off by itself (doing routine things, like pressing the "Read" button on an SMS). There's gotta be a weird coincidence there (I had an underclock issue where the screen wouldn't come on a couple months ago while earlier that day I was reading the post on how to replace a bad LCD panel - so I get to overreact like that).
I think my issue is more about battery as I have been tracking it the past several hours (three shutdowns in a row at 60% battery, and then one ten minutes ago at 20%) but it continues to work itself out (with some weird stuff like notification panel crashing on me on one of the last reboots).
I have what I presume is a cheap 1900mAh battery (EZOPower) that is starting to show it's wrinkles. I have dropped the max processor speed a notch according to a recommendation in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753720
...hopefully that was the issue. I nandroid'd my device just in case something goes wrong. If it continues, I'll swap batteries and see.
I'm hesitant to shell out for a couple Ankers because I currently have my eye on the LG Optimus F3Q (although getting one would be three months away, I gotta have priorities).

Various niggles, 2nd phone.

My first G3 which I was very happy with died suddenly on me. AT&T replaced it.
My second one has some issues that my first one did not.
Connects but times out with weak wifi signals.
Double tap often does not work to wake up phone. Needs a second double tap in those instances.
Almost every incoming call the caller can not hear me until I say hello twice.
I have had one overheat episode. No open apps, put the phone in its pouch with screen off. Later in the day reached for the phone and it was very hot with nearly depleted battery.
Seems to have some lag which my first one did not.
I have done a factory reset but these problems persist.
Anyone else experience this?
I don't like to be a nuisance customer and want to find out what others are experiencing before I call AT&T tech. support again.
samsat said:
My first G3 which I was very happy with died suddenly on me. AT&T replaced it.
My second one has some issues that my first one did not.
Connects but times out with weak wifi signals.
Double tap often does not work to wake up phone. Needs a second double tap in those instances.
Almost every incoming call the caller can not hear me until I say hello twice.
I have had one overheat episode. No open apps, put the phone in its pouch with screen off. Later in the day reached for the phone and it was very hot with nearly depleted battery.
Seems to have some lag which my first one did not.
I have done a factory reset but these problems persist.
Anyone else experience this?
I don't like to be a nuisance customer and want to find out what others are experiencing before I call AT&T tech. support again.
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Yeah id contact AT&T again, ive only have lag and data problems, hoping a custom rom fixes that!
I used AT&T's online chat. They asked me to enter the code to check the health of the battery.
Once they saw it was OK they said OK they will replace the phone. Easy as that!
Hopefully I get a good one this time.
samsat said:
I used AT&T's online chat. They asked me to enter the code to check the health of the battery.
Once they saw it was OK they said OK they will replace the phone. Easy as that!
Hopefully I get a good one this time.
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Wish they were nice like that to me! I just need better battery life, and id be perfect with this phone
The one thing I cant complain about is battery life. I only charge the phone every second day and at that time I could possibly squeeze even a third day with careful usage. When they sent me this replacement phone they also sent me another battery and I have the LG charger/battery freebie on the way so I wont be short of battery power anyway!
My phone has been on for more than 12 hours today, a bunch of calls and some browsing and it's on 91%!! That can't be right.
samsat said:
The one thing I cant complain about is battery life. I only charge the phone every second day and at that time I could possibly squeeze even a third day with careful usage. When they sent me this replacement phone they also sent me another battery and I have the LG charger/battery freebie on the way so I wont be short of battery power anyway!
My phone has been on for more than 12 hours today, a bunch of calls and some browsing and it's on 91%!! That can't be right.
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Id do anything for that! If i really try i can go all day, about 12 hours but my battery will be dead, i only get 3-4 hours screen on time, im thinking about getting a spare battery,

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