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Samsung Mirage (Omnia) or HTC Fuze (Touch Pro)

According to the rumors the Samsung Mirage (Omnia) or HTC Fuze (Touch Pro) will be coming to at&t within two days of each other. I fell into the iPhone 3G hype and ditched my Tilt for the iPhone. I have seen the error of my ways and want to come back to Winmo.
While the iPhone has its drawbacks, I have fallen in love with the large screen of the iPhone (and have missed the large screen from leaving the Blue Angel for the Apache and then the Tilt) Additionally I really like most of the specs of the Mirage (Omnia) over the Fuze (Touch Pro). However I love the support and tweaking available from the awesome chefs here at xda developers, and would miss it tremendously.
So if you currently had an iPhone, and were going to buy a new Winmo device from at&t at the end of October, which would it be? Mirage or Fuze

I'm not so sure I could go back to a device without a keyboard... If I did, it'd be the Touch HD, not the Omnia.

Thundarr The Barbarian said:
I'm not so sure I could go back to a device without a keyboard... If I did, it'd be the Touch HD, not the Omnia.
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I am somewhat of a phone freak so I will get the Fuze or Mirage at the end of October and then switch to the HD when it has at&t 3g capability (if ever)

Eh, I love phones too but I don't think I could buy a phone just to have it for a few months and sell it... I'd lose my upgrade, extend my contract for 2 years... For me that's a big issue, I'm on a family plan with my mom right now and she wants me off!
I've already played with the Fuze for close to a month and made money off of it, so I'll have no problem waiting for the Touch HD... Hopefully.

Hi,
I had the same isue as you but then with the original products.
It actualy is very easy to decide. Both products are very different. So just make a list of your Need to have, nice to haves.
I have bought the touch pro because the Omnia doesn't have a standerd usb and the camera isn't that important for me. btw, I really like the optical mouse on the Omnia.
I also used http://www.infinitube.net/ to watch reviews (and bashings) of the Omnia, Xperia and the Touch Pro.
Regards,
AJ

widescreen touchpro, is it possible to have something like this???

Started with SE X1, widescreen WM device with slide out qwerty keyboard (800x480 in 3" screen). Then followed by toshiba G900 with the same form factor. The last news is the release of N97 from nokia (not a WM device), wide touchscreen device + slide out qwerty keyboard + huge screen size at 3.5".
Just curious if HTC will release widescreen device with slide out qwerty keyboard. Something like touchpro but with longer screen size (3.2" just like omnia). Is it possible and what do you think?

like after diamond came touch pro
i find it likely that there would be a touch hd keyboard device

you know the toshiba G900 was the first one a long time ago. It was superceded by the G910. The X1 came much much later.

I hope so... That is exactly the device I'd be looking for.. Throw in a tilting screen and 32GB of storage and it should be the perfect winmo device.

Rudegar said:
like after diamond came touch pro
i find it likely that there would be a touch hd keyboard device
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I second that mate!
waiting for the HD touch Pro!

03cobratech said:
I hope so... That is exactly the device I'd be looking for.. Throw in a tilting screen and 32GB of storage and it should be the perfect winmo device.
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don't forget about the xenon flash.
Waiting for surprise from htc on this year end.

Nah, I doubt it will happen that fast. With 4G MAX project rolling in Russia, I doubt we'll see HD Pro that soon. Maybe later next year on WM6.5.

Do you mean beginning next year right???
HTC should release this thing quickly, Nokia is on the move with their N97 (although it's not a wm device). All in one dream device.
It should be easy for HTC to create something like this.

Diamond or Jade, Which phone should i buy if want to install WM7 when it comes out?

Hi... noob here
I want to buy a new phone but i want to be able to upgrade to WM7 when it comes out [i know i can depend on xda for that ].
I like the Diamond but i am a little scare of the low battery life and the not so fast UI [TouchFLO3D], that is why i thought about buying Jade, better battery life and faster UI.
Which one do you think i should buy?

when windows mobile seven come out it will have different hardware specs and it will run off of a different windows ce seed.....
Its a long way off (windows mobile 6.5 will be out first) and as i previously hinted everything will be changing when it comes out.... there is a chance that none of the phone out will fully support windows mobile seven when it comes out.
If i were to guess the one that would be supported though, i would go with the touch pro or touch hd

joel2009 said:
when windows mobile seven come out it will have different hardware specs and it will run off of a different windows ce seed.....
Its a long way off (windows mobile 6.5 will be out first) and as i previously hinted everything will be changing when it comes out.... there is a chance that none of the phone out will fully support windows mobile seven when it comes out.
If i were to guess the one that would be supported though, i would go with the touch pro or touch hd
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why touch pro but not diamond?
theyre the same thing.
just touch pro has hardware keyboard...

thats true i wouldn't say one over the other except my personal prefence to the hardware keyboard.
Most just looking at the windows mobile seven "specs" that have been leaked or put out i can see these phones as far as hardware wise being most prepared (g sensors, light sensors, they have capacitive sreens (capabale of multi-touch) along with there classic pressure screens.... ect)
of course i have no way of proving any of this, its all just my own opinion on the matter of which phones i think are most prepared.

actually they claimed that new hardware will be needed.. so.. well... new hardware will be needed, most probably

From what I glean from reading blog posts about WM7 it seems as though touch and g-sensor are going to be major parts of the OS. Based on the assumption of using an OS that is built around touch, I would go for the biggest screen you can get...the Touch HD.
I would also agree with above that WM7 is a long way off and will prolly require new hardware, so you should get the phone that does that you need it to do now, and worry about the upgrade later. I just don't feel that WM7 is close enough to be a deciding factor in what device to get. In that vein, I again highly recommend the HD. After a week of heavy use I have reached for the stylus about 5 times, and I type faster on the screen with two thumbs using touchpal faster than I can on the tiny, tiny little keys on the Touch Pro keyboard. One thing not to be overlooked with virtual keyboards is the error correction and prediction software that catches mistypes really well. THe Diamond screen is just to small, and in my opinion it runs slow and laggy compared to the HD. I am also really pleased with the HD battery life and the near perfection of TF3D out of the box.

What to get next?

I currently have a TyTN (Hermes 200) and am thinking about upgrading.
Maybe something used.
My biggest indecision is that I don't know if the next phone should have a slide out keyboard, or not. (Slide-out keyboard is nice, but makes for a thicker device)
I don't do heavy emailing or heavy texting... just the occasional ones.
Any thoughts/advice on which way to go? Maybe recommend a device?
P.S. I don't want an iPhone... I think i'd prefer to tick with an HTC device (WM or even Android)

here's a Touch HD & QWERTY thread discussion...maybe some info there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437646&highlight=qwerty

Try and check out the ASUS P565. It is not an HTC phone, but something to consider since a brand new unit is about 500 something dollars. Here is a thread discussion with links: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446317

The upcoming Touch Pro2 and Touch Diamond2 look really nice. The former is more like the TyTN, and the latter is more like the TyTN without a keyboard. They're both pretty much the same, except the Diamond2 has a better camera and no keyboard. They will both ship with 6.1, but will be upgradable to WM6.5.
Dave

I will definitely replace my Hermes with the touch pro 2, at least if my battery survives that long.

One more for touch pro 2!!

Neither the Pro 2 or Diamond 2 can replace the Hermes adequately, since they don't have a scroll wheel and D-pad.

So other then the Touch Pro2, there are no other suggestions?
What are the thoughts on the Touch Pro? how is it compared to the tytn? Much faster?

yes, the touch pro (and se xperia X1, almost the same hardware, different looks) are a *LOT* faster then the TyTN, their 2 years newer, so that's expected offc
The major diff is the amount of memory, the tytn always rns of of memory at about any task. Other then that, the cpu on the tp is a lot fatser, it has a bigger VGA screen, ans a lot of nice stuff that you could or couldn't care about (tv-out, g-sensor etc.).
If you want a replacement for the tytn *now* get a touch pro or an X1 (personal choice), but if you can wait another 3-4 months (in europe at least) then the touch pro 2 would seem to be the best choice.

HTC Touch Pro vs. Touch Pro 2

hey guys, i've been using my Touch Pro for 1 year lately and i'm quite happy about it , and now after only 12 months that so many things happen (new phones come out, new OS, new Software that only fits newer phones,...) just make me wondering that, should i replace my Touch Pro and upgrade to a newer phone (such as Touch Pro 2, because you know i love qwerty keyboard phone ) or should i just keep my old lovely also my best buddy and wait for a couple few year to see how things work out , please guys, if you have any idea, comment or useful advise, just help me out so i could make the right decision

personally, I think i would say no....
the touch pro 2 is barely different from the tp1... If I want to upgrade, I want to have (at the minimum) a processor upgrade not the same freaking processor..-_-

I'd have to agree, plus the touch pro 2 does not even have a LED light on the back. No one likes to be left in the dark

i have to recomend hd2? touch2, its not touch pro 2. its newer version of touch. i think thats it

I heard that AT&T insurance is offering a Touch Pro 2 as a replacement to my phone. Called them and did an insurance claim on my Fuze (fault touch screen - had a minor dead zone that bothered me only a little bit over the past year).
They initially tried to give me a Pure but i wanted a keyboard, they are sending me a replacement refurb touch pro 2 instead.
I will miss the fuze's led light (used it often when installing sound systems). But want the larger screen.
There is really no change between the touch pro and the touch pro 2 aside from screen size. You get no better camera, no faster processor, and no additional buttons (from what i understand).
Id say if you must have a larger screen - and you can get a touch pro 2 for $50, it might be worth it. (key word is might)

Having just moved on from the Fuze (Raphael/Touch Pro) to the Tilt 2 (Rhodium/Touch Pro 2), I would say that it's not worth upgrading unless your TP isn't working right and you can get a replacement for $50. I also got mine device as an insurance replacement, and I must say, the screen is beautiful. Very large, and clear. And from a chef's perspective, it's really nice not to have to wait for packages to be ported - to have a device that's still (relatively) supported, and for which new ROMs are still coming out (infrequently, but still).
But I do miss the flashlight on my old device. I also miss the ability to get TMC updates for OnCourse Navigator using the HyperGPS driver. And I dislike that AVRCP doesn't work right, because the Bluetooth stack is completely different (I can't use it with anything other than WMP/Sense, like the old days on the Raph). I also miss the D-Pad (I know, it was a poorly designed D-pad, but it was SOMETHING). I also prefer the Raph Smart Touch wheel over the Zoom bar that the Rhodium has (whose idea was that?).
Overall, I feel that the Raphael actually has more/better features than the Rhodium - the only thing the Rhodium has over the Raphael, IMO, is the screen (resolution, tilt - if you think that's a feature). But that is just one man's opinion . . .

yes right, tp2 is just a screen upgrade...
i want a desire with qwertz keyboard!
who else? ^^
please htc make a desire pro or something like that would be great.

I'd suggest trying out the new Resco 6.00 beta keyboard and see if you like it. If you do, then go for the HD2 (keeping in mind that the keyboard will be bigger and better on the larger screen). The rhodium never seemed all that great to me, but I guess since all the new devices are wvga, like Cptn said, there are more packages available for it nowadays.
I'm using my fuze til it dies.

Captain_Throwback said:
Having just moved on from the Fuze (Raphael/Touch Pro) to the Tilt 2 (Rhodium/Touch Pro 2), I would say that it's not worth upgrading unless your TP isn't working right and you can get a replacement for $50. I also got mine device as an insurance replacement, and I must say, the screen is beautiful. Very large, and clear. And from a chef's perspective, it's really nice not to have to wait for packages to be ported - to have a device that's still (relatively) supported, and for which new ROMs are still coming out (infrequently, but still).
But I do miss the flashlight on my old device. I also miss the ability to get TMC updates for OnCourse Navigator using the HyperGPS driver. And I dislike that AVRCP doesn't work right, because the Bluetooth stack is completely different (I can't use it with anything other than WMP/Sense, like the old days on the Raph). I also miss the D-Pad (I know, it was a poorly designed D-pad, but it was SOMETHING). I also prefer the Raph Smart Touch wheel over the Zoom bar that the Rhodium has (whose idea was that?).
Overall, I feel that the Raphael actually has more/better features than the Rhodium - the only thing the Rhodium has over the Raphael, IMO, is the screen (resolution, tilt - if you think that's a feature). But that is just one man's opinion . . .
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on point... got a free tp2 from my dad but gave it back cuz the size of the screen is not worth the features you lose.