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TyTN II + Touch Cruise I'm Stuck...!!!!

I’m so stuck…..!
I’ve been reading raving reviews on both the HTC TyTN II & Touch Cruise and now confused as to which would be the better of the two for me!
I currently use an o2 Atom Exec and don’t mind it but the fact that I have to pull out the stylus every time I need to SMS or email someone, ****s me to tears.
Will I be doing the same on Touch Cruise? using my stylus rather than the touch capabilities? My biggest concern is the Touch keyboard, I haven’t been able to find a video preview of someone demonstraighting the way you would email or SMS using the Touch keyboard.
I’d really like to hear from anyone that has either the TyTN II or Touch Cruise and why they decided to go with the phone they did.

EDIT: NEVERMIND... I was looking at the Touch DUAL in my comments. Sorry about that!!

EDIT: NEVERMIND... I was looking at the Touch DUAL in my comments. Sorry about that!!

Well, I've played with the Touch, and the TyTN II, and I just bought a Touch Cruise. I was coming from a smartphone (w/keypad), so initially I wanted a Touch Dual. The lack of wifi killed it for me though.
Having a Touch Cruise, I can honestly say you get over not having physical keys/keyboard readily. The form factor on the Touch devices is also very impressive and well sized. Lastly, the flat screen makes a huge difference in usability of the Touch Flow software (so although you can add Touch Flow to the TyTN II, you really don't get the same feel).
Conclusion: If you can get over the lack of wifi and your aren't the type to compose books on your device go for the Dual. If you need wifi, consider upgrading to the Cruise. If you need a dedicated keyboard and don't mind the form factor and largeish size, go for the TyTN II.

Touch Dual
I went after much research for the Kaiser, by far the best.
Then I got a Touch Dual and now I'm turn
You should go around a few shops and play around with the handsets.
My Kaiser is like a brick, the Touch Dual is so smooth and slim.

Excellent advice Sonus.
How true, I also installed the TouchFlo software on my Atom Exec and yes it does the software no justice.
My problem at the moment is that the HTC Touch Cruise doesn’t get released in Australia for another 7 days and then our Telco’s probably want offer any deals for another month or so.
What I’d like is to physically play with a working Touch phone. Would it be fair to say that the HTC Touch has a similar OS to the HTC Touch Cruise? If so, then I can go to a PDA store & have a play with this phone instead to get an idea of the TouchFlo OS and what it would be like to type an email with the “Touch” Keyboard.

Obsydian,
That’s what worries me the most, I’ll buy the TyTN II and then a few weeks later I’ll get to have a play with the Cruise and I’ll kick myself for not waiting.
Tell me, is there any lag when you use the Touch keyboard. If I go and play with a HTC Touch will it give me a perfect example of what the Crusie will fell and work like?
I’m so itching for a new phone, I was very close to just ordering the TyTN II late night…..
Man I’m starting to lose sleep over this LOL……

blimpmedia said:
I’m so stuck…..!
I’d really like to hear from anyone that has either the TyTN II or Touch Cruise and why they decided to go with the phone they did.
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I have both devices currently. I own one of the pre-release Touch Cruises and I love it. At the same time, I am evaluating a development ROM on a Kaiser for an un-named source. In essence, with a modified ROM, the Touch interface functionality can be nearly the same on both devices with a slight edge going to the Cruise since it has the flush-faced screen made for the GUI.
I have been using the Kaiser (TYTN II) for the past week and I must say, I open the keyboard more times by accident than intentionally. I agree with the earlier comments that you get used to having no keyboard very fast. Cruise has FM Radio, while Kaiser does not. I played FM a little on day 1 of owning the Cruise and not again since. I stopped listening to FM years ago when I went to XM.
The BIG thing to notice is the BULK of the Kaiser, even though it is slimmed down a little from the earlier TYTN and the Wizard which preceeded it, it is a brick compared to the Cruise. In my area the Kaiser is $40-$50 more expensive than the Cruise. My vote for the Cruise is not for the cost, it's for the ability to turn heads and garner interest from others. The QWERTY-PDA's have been around for years now. The Touch GUI is new on the block and many folks like it because it is new and it's not from *pple.
I've written reviews for both devices now and the scale for me tips towards Cruise. By the way, I love the Teksoft keyboard on the Cruise. (search the Athena Forum for more info or google Teksoft)

Raskell, If I go to a local mobile store that stocks a Touch Dual will that give me an idea of what I’m up for with the cruise?

blimpmedia said:
Raskell, If I go to a local mobile store that stocks a Touch Dual will that give me an idea of what I’m up for with the cruise?
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Yes, I think it is a good idea to feel the Touch Dual or the original Touch for that matter, just to get a handle on the Touch GUI and to feel the sleekness of the device. Depending on where you live and which shop you visit, they may also have a TYTN ot a TYTN II. (If you've seen a Wizard, the TYTN's are upgraded hardware in the same size case, just a bit more style)
In the end, the sleek and solid lines and the less bulky feel of the Touch line should steer you towards the Cruise. It has all of the connectivity and options you should need in this price range. Apart from not having a VGA screen and a microdrive, it is feature for feature on par with the Athena, but that device is in a class of it's own (+size, +weight, +bulk, but storage and features galore)
Happy hunting and let us know how you do with the decision.

I just when to the local Phone store which had a HTC Touch & the TyTN II on display and asked if I could demo the Touch. I don’t understand these companies! They want us to spend over $1000 AU but don’t have a working demo to play with, boy that annoys me.
Now the sales person wouldn’t let me physically handle the Touch but he did installed the battery and turned the phone on for me to see it working. He showed me the onscreen keyboard in a qwerty 1x key per button and it seemed too small to try typing a short email/sms using your thumb. He mentioned that his girlfriend had the Touch and she still used her stylus a lot to type her sms messages.
I’m so confused and my wife is about to divorce me LOL…… unless someone can seriously convince me, I think I might head for the TyTN II. I really like the Touch Cruise but my biggest concern it the typing method.
So any HTC Touch Cruise owners I understand the Touch Cruise onscreen keyboard can be changed to x1 letter per key, what is your honest experience with this?

I’m not sure if this is possible, but am I able to install the onscreen keyboard used on the Touch Cruise on my Atom Exec to get a rough feel for it?
If so, where can I download it from?

I'm not sure why in the world his g/f would use the stylus keyboard as the main input, its much slower than using the included stock thumb keyboards.
The stock keyboard options on the cruise are a t9 keyboard(3keys per button), and a 20 key qwerty keyboard (2keys per button). If you want a full qwerty keyboard for thumb typing, you'll need to download something like pocketcm or zoomboard, or the big keyboard by spb.
Honestly, I can only imagine using a full qwerty keyboard in landscape mode. I ended up using the 12key T9 keyboard and I'm pretty fast on it, it has a really good T9 predictive engine, so I'm faster than some of my friends with full qwerty devices. But if you feel you *need* a qwerty keyboard, then the TytnII would be the way to go (I say need, b/c you may just find you can live w/o it). Good luck on your decision.

Touch Pro or Touch HD?

I was after some advice. I'm trying to decide between a Touch Pro at around £300 or a Touch HD at around £450.
I have a TyTn II at present and have really liked it, but I'm hoping one of the new HTC's a bit smoother. I do use the keyboard quite a bit, what's the HD's on screen keyboard like? Can you use it to type notes in a meeting?
The Samsung Omnia has been mentioned, but I see the screen is only 240x400? That's half the size of the HD!
I'm looking at a review of the Sony X1 which compares it to the Touch Pro, declaring the TP the superior device.
So, I'm still trying to decide between the TP or HD.... any suggestions?

Well I can heartily recomend the HD. I've had mine for a week now and I absolutely love it. Its surprisingly easy to type on the touchscreen, especially if you use touchpal(never had a touchscreen ophone before, I too upgraded from tytn II).

I must honestly admit that I upgraded my TYTn2 to Touch pro and I love it all the way, had an iphone in between, but just can't miss the physical keyboard, and this one is waaaay nicer than the TYTN2-keyboard, more firm...

[Q] HTC Touch pro or HTC Diamond2?

Hi guys
I am currently staying in Taiwan and I am considering to buy my very first windows mobile phone.
Right now in Taiwan, a HTC Touch costs around $444USD and a HTC Diamond2 around $648USD (Similar cost to a HTC Touch HD).
Because I am a student, I have very limited budget. Both TP and D2 have very similar hardware spec (in terms of processor, memory and ram). And looking at the xds-forum, the TP can easily match D2's software features through a cooked rom.
So here is my question. Is it worth to spend an extra $200USD to buy a D2, instead of a TP?
Thank you~~

NoobStick said:
Hi guys
I am currently staying in Taiwan and I am considering to buy my very first windows mobile phone.
Right now in Taiwan, a HTC Touch costs around $444USD and a HTC Diamond2 around $648USD (Similar cost to a HTC Touch HD).
Because I am a student, I have very limited budget. Both TP and D2 have very similar hardware spec (in terms of processor, memory and ram). And looking at the xds-forum, the TP can easily match D2's software features through a cooked rom.
So here is my question. Is it worth to spend an extra $200USD to buy a D2, instead of a TP?
Thank you~~
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Hi, that depends a lot on how you will use the device. The Diamond 2 sure is a lot better for pictures (5mp) and has a better looking and bigger screen to watch videos and use the web for example. And that's all, i don't think there's any real improvements.
The TP has good camera too, (3,2) and the hardware keyboard. I had a Kaiser, and now a diamond 1, and one thing i really miss is playing games with a real keyboard, not only touchscreen and D-pad.
As for the software, i wouldn't mind very much as almost everything in this forum is ported between TP, Diamond 2 and Diamond.
So i would go with the Touch Pro. But that's only my opnion, from someone who never actually had a diamond 2, just reads a lot of posts here.
If i were you i would go to the store, would "play" with both for about 2 hours, than i'd choose.
Good luck with your choice!

best htc on the market help!!

hi guys
My question is simple, probably the awnser
er won't be, i just want to know what's the best htc out there to buy, or other PDA/Phone to buy. It's supposed to be windows mobile based so i can use some apps (It will be a phone for work, soi need to use some health department based apps, usually for WM). Keeping in mind that i would rather have an htc but other opinions are welcome, money is no issue (company pays ).
thanks in advance

Touch Pro 2
keyboard makes it a bit heavier but it speeds things up quite a bit. IMHO

+1 fot TP2!!
Also you can consider Tosh TG0
Here a little bit of history:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362
Merge threads: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4181268#post4181268

Depends on what you want really.
I would go for Touch Pro 2 if you want QWERTY keyboard.
Diamond if you want compact.
Touch HD if you want large screen no QWERTY.

Other significant options (non-htc) are:
Samsung Omnia II's - due out any day now, come in "iphone" style, slider keyboard and blackberry shapes. These all come with supposedly very funky, very battery saving AMOLED screens. If they follow the same standards as the Omnia 1, they are a VERY worthy competitor.
Acer M900 (which I use) - Slide out keyboard
Acer F900 - iphone style
I personaly won't touch another HTC device due to my experiences with the past four i've owned - they all hardware failed one way or another. My Omnia was about as near to perfect as I ever got. Before I heard about the Samsung Omnia II's I'd already bought the Acer M900 (the M900 is a great phone though and I wont be replacing it for a while, even though I can afford to).

thanks for the quick replys guys.
the pro II seems a very good choice, but i really want to make this right, so i've decided to do some more checking b4 i buy.
Monty raised up a good question that i should add to my scale, the omnia II, but what's the difference between that one and the omnia pro?
http://bizanywhere.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/samsung-omnia-pro-qwerty.jpg?w=560&h=464
the url above (if it isn't blocked) is the pro i think, seems a very sharp phone, and it looks good 2.
HTC is still my preference but i want to be sure.
PS: i have a htc p3470 pharos , and i love it, 2 bad it doesn't have wi-fi and a faster cpu. i had an iphone for about a month (laughs) it's a very good phone, for a leisure phone, for a second phone maybe, but not a working man's phone, at least in my situation (if you're puff daddy propably is).

The OmniaPro (slide out keyboard) trounces the TouchPro 2 in a lot of things:
PDADB Compare
I've also listed the old Omnia for comparison sake as well as the Omnia II and my current phone of choice, the Acer M900
edit: to be fair though, i dont think you would be upset with a TP2 either, its still a well spec'ed phone.... just hope it holds together more than 6 months!

HTC Touch Pro vs. Touch Pro 2

hey guys, i've been using my Touch Pro for 1 year lately and i'm quite happy about it , and now after only 12 months that so many things happen (new phones come out, new OS, new Software that only fits newer phones,...) just make me wondering that, should i replace my Touch Pro and upgrade to a newer phone (such as Touch Pro 2, because you know i love qwerty keyboard phone ) or should i just keep my old lovely also my best buddy and wait for a couple few year to see how things work out , please guys, if you have any idea, comment or useful advise, just help me out so i could make the right decision

personally, I think i would say no....
the touch pro 2 is barely different from the tp1... If I want to upgrade, I want to have (at the minimum) a processor upgrade not the same freaking processor..-_-

I'd have to agree, plus the touch pro 2 does not even have a LED light on the back. No one likes to be left in the dark

i have to recomend hd2? touch2, its not touch pro 2. its newer version of touch. i think thats it

I heard that AT&T insurance is offering a Touch Pro 2 as a replacement to my phone. Called them and did an insurance claim on my Fuze (fault touch screen - had a minor dead zone that bothered me only a little bit over the past year).
They initially tried to give me a Pure but i wanted a keyboard, they are sending me a replacement refurb touch pro 2 instead.
I will miss the fuze's led light (used it often when installing sound systems). But want the larger screen.
There is really no change between the touch pro and the touch pro 2 aside from screen size. You get no better camera, no faster processor, and no additional buttons (from what i understand).
Id say if you must have a larger screen - and you can get a touch pro 2 for $50, it might be worth it. (key word is might)

Having just moved on from the Fuze (Raphael/Touch Pro) to the Tilt 2 (Rhodium/Touch Pro 2), I would say that it's not worth upgrading unless your TP isn't working right and you can get a replacement for $50. I also got mine device as an insurance replacement, and I must say, the screen is beautiful. Very large, and clear. And from a chef's perspective, it's really nice not to have to wait for packages to be ported - to have a device that's still (relatively) supported, and for which new ROMs are still coming out (infrequently, but still).
But I do miss the flashlight on my old device. I also miss the ability to get TMC updates for OnCourse Navigator using the HyperGPS driver. And I dislike that AVRCP doesn't work right, because the Bluetooth stack is completely different (I can't use it with anything other than WMP/Sense, like the old days on the Raph). I also miss the D-Pad (I know, it was a poorly designed D-pad, but it was SOMETHING). I also prefer the Raph Smart Touch wheel over the Zoom bar that the Rhodium has (whose idea was that?).
Overall, I feel that the Raphael actually has more/better features than the Rhodium - the only thing the Rhodium has over the Raphael, IMO, is the screen (resolution, tilt - if you think that's a feature). But that is just one man's opinion . . .

yes right, tp2 is just a screen upgrade...
i want a desire with qwertz keyboard!
who else? ^^
please htc make a desire pro or something like that would be great.

I'd suggest trying out the new Resco 6.00 beta keyboard and see if you like it. If you do, then go for the HD2 (keeping in mind that the keyboard will be bigger and better on the larger screen). The rhodium never seemed all that great to me, but I guess since all the new devices are wvga, like Cptn said, there are more packages available for it nowadays.
I'm using my fuze til it dies.

Captain_Throwback said:
Having just moved on from the Fuze (Raphael/Touch Pro) to the Tilt 2 (Rhodium/Touch Pro 2), I would say that it's not worth upgrading unless your TP isn't working right and you can get a replacement for $50. I also got mine device as an insurance replacement, and I must say, the screen is beautiful. Very large, and clear. And from a chef's perspective, it's really nice not to have to wait for packages to be ported - to have a device that's still (relatively) supported, and for which new ROMs are still coming out (infrequently, but still).
But I do miss the flashlight on my old device. I also miss the ability to get TMC updates for OnCourse Navigator using the HyperGPS driver. And I dislike that AVRCP doesn't work right, because the Bluetooth stack is completely different (I can't use it with anything other than WMP/Sense, like the old days on the Raph). I also miss the D-Pad (I know, it was a poorly designed D-pad, but it was SOMETHING). I also prefer the Raph Smart Touch wheel over the Zoom bar that the Rhodium has (whose idea was that?).
Overall, I feel that the Raphael actually has more/better features than the Rhodium - the only thing the Rhodium has over the Raphael, IMO, is the screen (resolution, tilt - if you think that's a feature). But that is just one man's opinion . . .
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on point... got a free tp2 from my dad but gave it back cuz the size of the screen is not worth the features you lose.