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Atom Exec Vs. HTC Touch

Hi Guys, need some feedback regarding these two phones. I'm planning to buy one but can't decide which. Do you have any pros and cons regarding these phones? What are the common problems you encounter? Your feedback is greatly appreciated

I currently use an Atom Exec and am trying to decide between a Touch Cruise and TyTN II myself.
The Exec is a Windows Mobile 5 phone as where the newer HTC phones like the Touch, TyTN II, and Touch Cruise have Windows Mobile 6 Pro.
My Atom Exec has served me well but not without problems. The minor issues I currently experience are:
1: If I try to run the phone with the built in hands free, it crackles on the receivers end. So I don’t use this…!
2: The screen ghosts every now and then, mostly I’ve noticed when its connecting to GPRS to download my emails.
3: Writing emails or SMS messages is a pain because you have to use the miniature keyboard. You can download a FREE copy of TouchPal but found it’s just easier typing with a qwerty keyboard rather a 2x letter per key option even if it is smaller.
I’m also trying to decide if I will enjoy having a Touch phone so at the moment I’m leaning to a TyTN II only because of the qwerty keyboard. I’ve been told to go to a store that has both phones and play with them there. A few people have said to me that I will love the Touch over the TyTN and shouldn’t have any problems getting use to the Touch On-Screen keyboard.
Anyway my 2 cents worth LOL….

Definiately get the Touch, I have a Touch Cruise and its very one handed use friendly. The included onscreen keyboards (I use the Touch Keypad) are great and you can get away with never using the mini stylus keyboard, which is great b/c thumb texting is much much faster than stulus texting. The Touch Flow software and HTC cube can be ported over to the Exec, but they really work sooooo much better on a flush screen. Out of those two devices, definitely get the Touch.

the touch (and especially the touch dual) are superior to the atom exec in just about every way, especially with a custom rom.

Former diamond users

I'm trying to decide if i should get the TP or the diamond. I'm currently using a treo 750.
My main dilemma is i don't need a hardware keyboard, but i'm still considering the TP because of the performance improvements with the extra ram and stuff.
Are there any former diamond users that care to comment? is the performance improvement over the Diamond worth having the extra bulk , or is the main benefit with the TP primarily the keyboard. on the TP do you still find yourself hitting the software keyboard often making the hardware keyboard sort of not worth it?
The battery TV out, and removable flash don't matter to me.

If you don't need to upgrade right away, you could wait for the Touch HD. Should be same specs as the Raphael (RAM/ROM size), and the 800x480 3.8" screen should make for a nice on-screen keyboard, say with the upcoming Swype SIP.
For me, I do use the software keyboard quite often, but mainly because I use Japanese input (namely, Japanese handwriting recognition). The Diamond does that too, but the hardware keyboard ended up being a big selling point, since I can type very accurately and quite quickly without having to pull out the stylus -- imo, two thumbs are faster than one stylus.
But judging from the Swype demo vids, I think it will close the gap between the SIP and hardware keyboard, so if you don't need special input like me with Japanese, you can probably still get a good keyboarding experience on the Diamond.

I had the very same dilemma when the Diamond came out. Should I wait for TP or go with the Diamond...?
The main thing that convinced me to wait for TP was the microSD slot - 4GB in Diamond can be enough for most of the people but I knew it wouldn't be enough for me. And of course the memory card can be taken out (for whatever reason). If the Diamond would drop dead all my data would be lost... whereas with the memory card I would be able to save most of them.
The HW keyboard was just an extra feature which I didn't really need. Although I got used to it and I find myself using it more often than I would imagine...
If you are not short on money and you don't mind the size I would say go for the TP.

Went from TyTN II -> Diamond - and now Touch Pro; I have always loved the keyboard on the TyTN II and used it extensively ... Then I got the Diamond - although I liked it a lot - I missed the keyboard; I hate using the screen for typing/writing.
Got the Touch Pro 3 days ago - and it has all the nice features of the Diamond - AND a keyboard - love it. Only problem - it is still very thick; I don't understand why they cannot make them thinner ...
Oh - and keyboard is not as good on TyTN II sad to say; harder to hit the correct buttons.
As for the speed - I cannot tell the difference between Diamond <-> Touch Pro. Diamond speed is not a problem.
/Inc

you've got more things than just a keyboard

I picked the Pro over the diamond because of the keyboard. Yes a little thicker than the diamond but the keyboard was a big selling point for me being an ex blackberry user. Full qwerty is the way to go.
I was going to get the Touch dual with ½ qwerty but it would not be released in AUS for all Networks.
I am more than happy with my choice.
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TyTN II -> Touch Pro... Is it worth it?

Hey Raphael / Touch Pro users...
The Touch Pro was recently released in South Africa and im considering the move from my TyTN II to the Touch Pro!
There is alot of nice looking technology in the Touch Pro and its a beautiful looking device... Im just wondering if people are as unhappy after moving to the Touch Pro as they were after moving to the TyTN II / Kaiser???
Im enjoying the TyTN II, after alot of tweaking i managed to get it feeling good and with the addition of CorePlayer 1.2.5 we can now get around the disgusting video playback issue!
So my question is...
Is the Touch Pro worth it??
What do you guys think??
Thank you!!!!!!

I think it's pretty much on what you need? TP is my first WM device and I'm had up and downs experience. I know it's a new product but just the simple phone function is having issue (not for everyone, I have the mute problem).
I like the screen resolution, the speed is acceptable. The design is great. Anyway it's a cool phone. If you love tech and have the budget, TP sure a nice toy to play around with.

I'm still using my Kaiser as well, but yes I was very happy with the upgrade.
Next is replacing the Diamond with the Touch HD

It's a good question. I heavily used a TYTN II in place of a Blackberry and when I changed jobs in September I bought a Touch Pro and don't use it as much for email anymore, but still use this functionality.
The only thing I miss is the jog wheel, that was very handy although "flicking" the screen to scroll through the mail is just as easy - just different. It's what you get used to.
I have found a number of bugs with the Touch Pro that have been widely discussed on this forum such as GPS lag, answering calls whilst in your pocket etc etc but have cured almost all of them again thanks to responses on this forum.
The Touch Pro is asthetically pleasing where as the TYTN II was purely function over form, and it has really nice touches - such as FM Radio, Opera, YouTube player all built in.
However, am I completely satisfied with the Touch Pro ? No, not completely. The GPS issue is a particular problem as I use it fairly frequently, and I'm noticing that there is an occasional breakup of or jump of sounds - voice calls, MP3's, SMS message tones - like an old record jumping - which to me take the "polish" of an otherwise accomplished device.
If I had to spend my money again at this point in time, I would be hanging on to see what the Xperia was like and then choosing - I will be watching that one with interest myself !

Hey guys!
Thanks very much for the replies, especially Half Penny, that was a very comprehensive reply
Ive only been using HTC devices for 2 months, but ive moved fairly quickly through devices, P4350 -> TyTN I -> TyTN II and i must say that ive come to love the HTC quality, the feel and just the way everything works, which makes me immediately hesitant to move to the X1!
The other issue i have with the X1 (and the Touch HD) Is the WVGA resolution, im worried about compatibility with existing apps, games etc! The X1 is also (in my opinion) an ugly looking device... But (considering i was a TyTN I owner hehe) this doesnt bother me that much!
I want the hardware keyboard, its the reason i moved from "regular" cellphones to these devices, so all the other HTCs and various other devices are ruled out because of lack of the hardware keyboard!
I was hoping that the Touch Pro would iron out a few issues HTC were facing, the poor video playback, the poor 3D performance etc etc... To be honest, if this isnt the case and im not missing that much, i might stick with the TyTN II for a year or so and see what happens (unless i pick up a Touch Pro for a bargain hehe), i love the tilting screen, its something ive come to use alot and im unsure as to why they decided to not include it in their new devices!
Anyway guys, i just thought id open this 1 up for discussion, thanks alot for the great input so far

Pro's and Con's
Whilst the TyTn II is not the most exciting looking device HTC came out with, it was one of the most stable PDA's I have owned. If it had a VGA screen I would have not traded it for the Touch Pro.
OK, the TP is very sexy, has a great screen and keyboard and oodles of RAM. But it has to be the most unstable PDA I have used, with constant glitches and weird errors that cause me to soft reset a couple of times a day. I think there is a real need for HTC to bring out a new ROM build that irons out all the well publicised faults.
Having said that, I love the sheer coolness of this device and the WOW's I get from mates when they see it. So I am pleased I bought it and I wouldn't get rid of it any day soon. I will continue to put up with the glitches and keep checking these forums for solutions.
Would I recommend it? For those who want a functional office device that they toss into a briefcase without a care.... NO!
For those gadget junkies amongst us.... YES!

as for me the TyTn II will be my first and last HTC device
am gonna switch over to Xperia or G1 or even a smart touch phone(samsung-nokia)
cuz HTC dont have good updates and all there roms are useless and LATE

xfox said:
as for me the TyTn II will be my first and last HTC device
am gonna switch over to Xperia or G1 or even a smart touch phone(samsung-nokia)
cuz HTC dont have good updates and all there roms are useless and LATE
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Good thing you're well informed and you know what you're talking about. "will be my first and last HTC device...", "am gonna switch over to Xperia (HTC) or G1 (HTC) or even a smart touch phone"... The only 2 phone models you named are made by HTC.

HTC Diamond or At&t tilt?

I've had my Tilt for about 6 months now and I've finally got it the way I like it with all the software and stuff (thanks xda!), but now I have the opportunity to swap it for an HTC diamond. Should I do it? I don't know much about the Diamond and really dont have the time right now to look it up so I'm leaving it up to you guys. Btw incase it might help I use my phone for mostly 1) phone calls, 2) Wifi on my University campus , 3) Texting. Thanks for your help.

Unless it was an HTC Touch Diamond Pro then I wouldn't recommend it. Sure the Diamond has slightly better specs, but it lacks the nice tilting keyboard, but then again you can always do with the on-screen keyboard instead. Hers my take on it; I wouldn't buy a new HTC Touch Diamond to replace my HTC Tilt, but if I had the opportunity to swap it for free then I would go for it. Anyways hers a specification comparison between the two:
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/compare_results.php?phones[]=2876&phones[]=2268

Dimond touch
speaking of it, does any one of you know if theresa plugin of some sort to make the Dxian X999+'s accelerometer work as the g sensor????
PS. this probably isn't the best place to post this but i need help
Thanks

for hat you your phone for they both work. only thing is your going to miss your keyboard. if you want both devices put in one try the htc raphael. has vga display and a keyboard. you loose features but gain some newer technology 3d drivers (but as you know kaiser is close to realeasing m3d ) I beleive the raphael has g sensors and it is has a vga display.

the whole point is he can SWAP for a diamond, he doesn't want to be told to spend $800 on a Touch Pro, as I'm sure he knows that it's essentially a combintion of them.
I would say keep the Tilt, youve got it perfect, I'm sure it runs fast enough for you, and the Diamond doesn't really have better specs at all (fake amount fo RAM)
Rory

Go For HTC Touch Diamond..!
Hi Mighty,
Hey buddy.Don't hesitate.Go for the HTC. I also bought my HTC Touch Diamond from Press Digital in the last week.So far i'm very impress with it.I'm sure you also can feel the fun.Go for it..!
Brad..!

All i gota say is, Dont do it lol

HTC Touch Pro vs. Touch Pro 2

hey guys, i've been using my Touch Pro for 1 year lately and i'm quite happy about it , and now after only 12 months that so many things happen (new phones come out, new OS, new Software that only fits newer phones,...) just make me wondering that, should i replace my Touch Pro and upgrade to a newer phone (such as Touch Pro 2, because you know i love qwerty keyboard phone ) or should i just keep my old lovely also my best buddy and wait for a couple few year to see how things work out , please guys, if you have any idea, comment or useful advise, just help me out so i could make the right decision

personally, I think i would say no....
the touch pro 2 is barely different from the tp1... If I want to upgrade, I want to have (at the minimum) a processor upgrade not the same freaking processor..-_-

I'd have to agree, plus the touch pro 2 does not even have a LED light on the back. No one likes to be left in the dark

i have to recomend hd2? touch2, its not touch pro 2. its newer version of touch. i think thats it

I heard that AT&T insurance is offering a Touch Pro 2 as a replacement to my phone. Called them and did an insurance claim on my Fuze (fault touch screen - had a minor dead zone that bothered me only a little bit over the past year).
They initially tried to give me a Pure but i wanted a keyboard, they are sending me a replacement refurb touch pro 2 instead.
I will miss the fuze's led light (used it often when installing sound systems). But want the larger screen.
There is really no change between the touch pro and the touch pro 2 aside from screen size. You get no better camera, no faster processor, and no additional buttons (from what i understand).
Id say if you must have a larger screen - and you can get a touch pro 2 for $50, it might be worth it. (key word is might)

Having just moved on from the Fuze (Raphael/Touch Pro) to the Tilt 2 (Rhodium/Touch Pro 2), I would say that it's not worth upgrading unless your TP isn't working right and you can get a replacement for $50. I also got mine device as an insurance replacement, and I must say, the screen is beautiful. Very large, and clear. And from a chef's perspective, it's really nice not to have to wait for packages to be ported - to have a device that's still (relatively) supported, and for which new ROMs are still coming out (infrequently, but still).
But I do miss the flashlight on my old device. I also miss the ability to get TMC updates for OnCourse Navigator using the HyperGPS driver. And I dislike that AVRCP doesn't work right, because the Bluetooth stack is completely different (I can't use it with anything other than WMP/Sense, like the old days on the Raph). I also miss the D-Pad (I know, it was a poorly designed D-pad, but it was SOMETHING). I also prefer the Raph Smart Touch wheel over the Zoom bar that the Rhodium has (whose idea was that?).
Overall, I feel that the Raphael actually has more/better features than the Rhodium - the only thing the Rhodium has over the Raphael, IMO, is the screen (resolution, tilt - if you think that's a feature). But that is just one man's opinion . . .

yes right, tp2 is just a screen upgrade...
i want a desire with qwertz keyboard!
who else? ^^
please htc make a desire pro or something like that would be great.

I'd suggest trying out the new Resco 6.00 beta keyboard and see if you like it. If you do, then go for the HD2 (keeping in mind that the keyboard will be bigger and better on the larger screen). The rhodium never seemed all that great to me, but I guess since all the new devices are wvga, like Cptn said, there are more packages available for it nowadays.
I'm using my fuze til it dies.

Captain_Throwback said:
Having just moved on from the Fuze (Raphael/Touch Pro) to the Tilt 2 (Rhodium/Touch Pro 2), I would say that it's not worth upgrading unless your TP isn't working right and you can get a replacement for $50. I also got mine device as an insurance replacement, and I must say, the screen is beautiful. Very large, and clear. And from a chef's perspective, it's really nice not to have to wait for packages to be ported - to have a device that's still (relatively) supported, and for which new ROMs are still coming out (infrequently, but still).
But I do miss the flashlight on my old device. I also miss the ability to get TMC updates for OnCourse Navigator using the HyperGPS driver. And I dislike that AVRCP doesn't work right, because the Bluetooth stack is completely different (I can't use it with anything other than WMP/Sense, like the old days on the Raph). I also miss the D-Pad (I know, it was a poorly designed D-pad, but it was SOMETHING). I also prefer the Raph Smart Touch wheel over the Zoom bar that the Rhodium has (whose idea was that?).
Overall, I feel that the Raphael actually has more/better features than the Rhodium - the only thing the Rhodium has over the Raphael, IMO, is the screen (resolution, tilt - if you think that's a feature). But that is just one man's opinion . . .
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on point... got a free tp2 from my dad but gave it back cuz the size of the screen is not worth the features you lose.