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I’m so stuck…..!
I’ve been reading raving reviews on both the HTC TyTN II & Touch Cruise and now confused as to which would be the better of the two for me!
I currently use an o2 Atom Exec and don’t mind it but the fact that I have to pull out the stylus every time I need to SMS or email someone, ****s me to tears.
Will I be doing the same on Touch Cruise? using my stylus rather than the touch capabilities? My biggest concern is the Touch keyboard, I haven’t been able to find a video preview of someone demonstraighting the way you would email or SMS using the Touch keyboard.
I’d really like to hear from anyone that has either the TyTN II or Touch Cruise and why they decided to go with the phone they did.
EDIT: NEVERMIND... I was looking at the Touch DUAL in my comments. Sorry about that!!
EDIT: NEVERMIND... I was looking at the Touch DUAL in my comments. Sorry about that!!
Well, I've played with the Touch, and the TyTN II, and I just bought a Touch Cruise. I was coming from a smartphone (w/keypad), so initially I wanted a Touch Dual. The lack of wifi killed it for me though.
Having a Touch Cruise, I can honestly say you get over not having physical keys/keyboard readily. The form factor on the Touch devices is also very impressive and well sized. Lastly, the flat screen makes a huge difference in usability of the Touch Flow software (so although you can add Touch Flow to the TyTN II, you really don't get the same feel).
Conclusion: If you can get over the lack of wifi and your aren't the type to compose books on your device go for the Dual. If you need wifi, consider upgrading to the Cruise. If you need a dedicated keyboard and don't mind the form factor and largeish size, go for the TyTN II.
Touch Dual
I went after much research for the Kaiser, by far the best.
Then I got a Touch Dual and now I'm turn
You should go around a few shops and play around with the handsets.
My Kaiser is like a brick, the Touch Dual is so smooth and slim.
Excellent advice Sonus.
How true, I also installed the TouchFlo software on my Atom Exec and yes it does the software no justice.
My problem at the moment is that the HTC Touch Cruise doesn’t get released in Australia for another 7 days and then our Telco’s probably want offer any deals for another month or so.
What I’d like is to physically play with a working Touch phone. Would it be fair to say that the HTC Touch has a similar OS to the HTC Touch Cruise? If so, then I can go to a PDA store & have a play with this phone instead to get an idea of the TouchFlo OS and what it would be like to type an email with the “Touch” Keyboard.
Obsydian,
That’s what worries me the most, I’ll buy the TyTN II and then a few weeks later I’ll get to have a play with the Cruise and I’ll kick myself for not waiting.
Tell me, is there any lag when you use the Touch keyboard. If I go and play with a HTC Touch will it give me a perfect example of what the Crusie will fell and work like?
I’m so itching for a new phone, I was very close to just ordering the TyTN II late night…..
Man I’m starting to lose sleep over this LOL……
blimpmedia said:
I’m so stuck…..!
I’d really like to hear from anyone that has either the TyTN II or Touch Cruise and why they decided to go with the phone they did.
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I have both devices currently. I own one of the pre-release Touch Cruises and I love it. At the same time, I am evaluating a development ROM on a Kaiser for an un-named source. In essence, with a modified ROM, the Touch interface functionality can be nearly the same on both devices with a slight edge going to the Cruise since it has the flush-faced screen made for the GUI.
I have been using the Kaiser (TYTN II) for the past week and I must say, I open the keyboard more times by accident than intentionally. I agree with the earlier comments that you get used to having no keyboard very fast. Cruise has FM Radio, while Kaiser does not. I played FM a little on day 1 of owning the Cruise and not again since. I stopped listening to FM years ago when I went to XM.
The BIG thing to notice is the BULK of the Kaiser, even though it is slimmed down a little from the earlier TYTN and the Wizard which preceeded it, it is a brick compared to the Cruise. In my area the Kaiser is $40-$50 more expensive than the Cruise. My vote for the Cruise is not for the cost, it's for the ability to turn heads and garner interest from others. The QWERTY-PDA's have been around for years now. The Touch GUI is new on the block and many folks like it because it is new and it's not from *pple.
I've written reviews for both devices now and the scale for me tips towards Cruise. By the way, I love the Teksoft keyboard on the Cruise. (search the Athena Forum for more info or google Teksoft)
Raskell, If I go to a local mobile store that stocks a Touch Dual will that give me an idea of what I’m up for with the cruise?
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Raskell, If I go to a local mobile store that stocks a Touch Dual will that give me an idea of what I’m up for with the cruise?
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Yes, I think it is a good idea to feel the Touch Dual or the original Touch for that matter, just to get a handle on the Touch GUI and to feel the sleekness of the device. Depending on where you live and which shop you visit, they may also have a TYTN ot a TYTN II. (If you've seen a Wizard, the TYTN's are upgraded hardware in the same size case, just a bit more style)
In the end, the sleek and solid lines and the less bulky feel of the Touch line should steer you towards the Cruise. It has all of the connectivity and options you should need in this price range. Apart from not having a VGA screen and a microdrive, it is feature for feature on par with the Athena, but that device is in a class of it's own (+size, +weight, +bulk, but storage and features galore)
Happy hunting and let us know how you do with the decision.
I just when to the local Phone store which had a HTC Touch & the TyTN II on display and asked if I could demo the Touch. I don’t understand these companies! They want us to spend over $1000 AU but don’t have a working demo to play with, boy that annoys me.
Now the sales person wouldn’t let me physically handle the Touch but he did installed the battery and turned the phone on for me to see it working. He showed me the onscreen keyboard in a qwerty 1x key per button and it seemed too small to try typing a short email/sms using your thumb. He mentioned that his girlfriend had the Touch and she still used her stylus a lot to type her sms messages.
I’m so confused and my wife is about to divorce me LOL…… unless someone can seriously convince me, I think I might head for the TyTN II. I really like the Touch Cruise but my biggest concern it the typing method.
So any HTC Touch Cruise owners I understand the Touch Cruise onscreen keyboard can be changed to x1 letter per key, what is your honest experience with this?
I’m not sure if this is possible, but am I able to install the onscreen keyboard used on the Touch Cruise on my Atom Exec to get a rough feel for it?
If so, where can I download it from?
I'm not sure why in the world his g/f would use the stylus keyboard as the main input, its much slower than using the included stock thumb keyboards.
The stock keyboard options on the cruise are a t9 keyboard(3keys per button), and a 20 key qwerty keyboard (2keys per button). If you want a full qwerty keyboard for thumb typing, you'll need to download something like pocketcm or zoomboard, or the big keyboard by spb.
Honestly, I can only imagine using a full qwerty keyboard in landscape mode. I ended up using the 12key T9 keyboard and I'm pretty fast on it, it has a really good T9 predictive engine, so I'm faster than some of my friends with full qwerty devices. But if you feel you *need* a qwerty keyboard, then the TytnII would be the way to go (I say need, b/c you may just find you can live w/o it). Good luck on your decision.
Please i need you advice
I'm standard Pocket PC user... I need to decide whether to buy Dimond or Cruise
I've read a lot of review and comparisons but i need user opinion
Thank you for your time
Hello Fadi,
I have a TC and my cousin just bought the Diamond. I was unlocking his Diamond, and had used his phone for 2 days.
Good :
- Lovely look and feel
- Lighter than TC
- Smaller than TC in size (screen is same 2.8")
- VGA Screen!
BAD:
- Usability is bad for the navigation pad! while pressing left or right, many times end up pressing the call buttons! they are too near, and u have to press exactly near the ring.
- The HTC Home interface is quiet slow! the phone i felt seemed slower than the TC
- VGA Screen didnt make much difference to me compared to my TC.
- the 4gb internal storage looks as if htc just put in a 4gb MicroSD card inside! If u install apps on it, they are treated as if installed on a storage card! not the main memory!
- Main memory is less - only 80mb for programs!
- this attracts too much of Thumbprints, so looks horrible after handling it for some time, have to keep cleaning it time to time, so that it stays totally clean and without any thumbprints!
- Biggest disadvantage i see is - The Scroll wheel is not there! The touch sensitive scrolling in the diamond is ONLY for album and Opera! not for browsing contacts or any other navigation work, other than those 2. I use the scroll wheel a lot in my TC
I was about to go in for this trading in my TC, but then didnt, coz i was not happy with it, i didnt like it much, and i think the Touch Cruise is more handy and better.
I think, the diamond is more for girl !
Touch Cruise vs Diamond battle wins iPhone 3G
Just returned my TC to RMA (broken camera, broken wlan, blue tooth is not stable), and ordered iPhone 3G... What will I miss for awhile is Jabra blue tooth earphones support... Everything else is already there and UI designed for fingers...
Microsoft should redesign the whole Windows Mobile shell and applications to be so user-friendly as 3G... To use even Thouch Cruise with one hand is almost impossible... Try it driving your bike, you'll see what I mean.
I just bought an iphone 3g also and I'm selling my cruise.
The iphone OS response time versus the Windows Mobile is a tremendous difference. iphone is so much faster
Thanks
Insane Devil said:
Hello Fadi,
I have a TC and my cousin just bought the Diamond. I was unlocking his Diamond, and had used his phone for 2 days.
Good :
- Lovely look and feel
- Lighter than TC
- Smaller than TC in size (screen is same 2.8")
- VGA Screen!
BAD:
- Usability is bad for the navigation pad! while pressing left or right, many times end up pressing the call buttons! they are too near, and u have to press exactly near the ring.
- The HTC Home interface is quiet slow! the phone i felt seemed slower than the TC
- VGA Screen didnt make much difference to me compared to my TC.
- the 4gb internal storage looks as if htc just put in a 4gb MicroSD card inside! If u install apps on it, they are treated as if installed on a storage card! not the main memory!
- Main memory is less - only 80mb for programs!
- this attracts too much of Thumbprints, so looks horrible after handling it for some time, have to keep cleaning it time to time, so that it stays totally clean and without any thumbprints!
- Biggest disadvantage i see is - The Scroll wheel is not there! The touch sensitive scrolling in the diamond is ONLY for album and Opera! not for browsing contacts or any other navigation work, other than those 2. I use the scroll wheel a lot in my TC
I was about to go in for this trading in my TC, but then didnt, coz i was not happy with it, i didnt like it much, and i think the Touch Cruise is more handy and better.
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Really Thank you for the great comparison
For me i like very much the idea of the SMSD chatting and call log enhancement
What do you think?
Thanks Insane Devil for the comparison, because i my self are thinking of sell my Cruise and buy a Diamond, but i wonder... I think i wait for the official Wm 6.1 for Cruise and look after that.
Isnt it so that if you made a hard reset you lost all settings like Cruise? Because when you have a backup of the setting in your Sd-card its very easy to restore the backup. With Diamond you must have the backup files in your Pc? and load it from there. isnt it so? Now with Cruise you have backups allways with you in the card and all the cab-files you need
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Thanks Insane Devil for the comparison, because i my self are thinking of sell my Cruise and buy a Diamond, but i wonder... I think i wait for the official Wm 6.1 for Cruise and look after that.
Isnt it so that if you made a hard reset you lost all settings like Cruise? Because when you have a backup of the setting in your Sd-card its very easy to restore the backup. With Diamond you must have the backup files in your Pc? and load it from there. isnt it so? Now with Cruise you have backups allways with you in the card and all the cab-files you need
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I don't think so my friend as the 4G is seen as memory card in the Dimond
so you'll not lose any saved data on it
I see, now I understand so there is no problem with storing stuff in the memory..Thanks for your answer fadimck!! Im much more wiser now Thanks!
dyter said:
I think, the diamond is more for girl !
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I don't agree with you
I have TC and I wonder to buy Diamond too
Importent thing for me is that big different among VGA on QVGA screen.
On 2,8 seem to me that not big.
Cruise or Diamond?
So I bought a Diamond an recieved a Cruise as gift.
I sold the Diamond, The reaction time of the diamond is not so good, an Im very satisfied with the cruise!
The ones who want a nice, small and stylish device --->Diamond
The others, gamers and those who are always reflashing device for a faster and nicer ROM i think theyre better with the cruise.
(my opinion)
I like Cruise more,
1.The battery of Diamond is too weak.
2.Cruise is faster than Diamond.
Demigor said:
Touch Cruise vs Diamond battle wins iPhone 3G
Just returned my TC to RMA (broken camera, broken wlan, blue tooth is not stable), and ordered iPhone 3G... What will I miss for awhile is Jabra blue tooth earphones support... Everything else is already there and UI designed for fingers...
Microsoft should redesign the whole Windows Mobile shell and applications to be so user-friendly as 3G... To use even Thouch Cruise with one hand is almost impossible... Try it driving your bike, you'll see what I mean.
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There comes the Iphone brigade!
I too had the same dilemma but eventually opted for the TC since the Diamond model in India comes without 3G. And the Iphone was tempting but with no front camera I thought it was a waste since India is going to have 3g very soon and no video call option of Apple. And with Apple its better to wait till they are in the 4thG or 5th, even better! Anyway they have no resale value. (in India that's imp. factor, resale value, since we don't get phones on contract or anything)
Personally... I'd wait. If the Touch Pro were an option, and I had to buy now, I'd go with that. I have the Touch Cruise, it's fine -- would probably like it much better if it had T-Mobile USA 3G bands. If the Diamond had 3D video drivers, that might be a factor -- but as it doesn't, and you can't expand the memory, seems like throwing money down the drain...
the cruise faster than the diamond? how's that posible?
im buying one of these 2 pda's next week, but i cant decide wich one, i would go for the cruise bcuz of his robust material and seemingly more durable, and the diamond for its size, and its VGA screen, there is of course the battery difference, am i missing something? are these valid arguments for choosing one or other?
thanks for your advice
Cruise has expandable memory while Diamond is fixed to 4GB internal if that's important to you. Also the Cruise is more of a true world phone since it supports additional frequencies, while the Diamond is regionalized.
Hey all,
In a couple weeks I'll be getting my upgrade, and I'm debating which device to go for, the Fuze/Touch Pro or the Tilt. One thing I'll be using it for is school related stuff...I'm getting a second Bachelor's in an engineering field, and there are plenty of good calc and engineering apps out there that would work equally well on either device. Another thing I'll be using it for is writing, I may have a job lined up writing an opinion column for the student publication, and I want something that I can write on anywhere I'm at, I may not always have a notebook pc with me. I know the keys will be smaller on the fuze, but besides that, how helpful is the tilting function on the Tilt for extended writing/typing sessions? As far as performance is concerned, the Tilt will be more than sufficient for what I'm looking for, so the ease of use in typing will be the deal breaker for me.
Thanks!
Colin
Well, despite the keys being smaller the keyboard on TP is much better. It has an extra row of keys which will help when typing numbers and the feel of the keys is great!
Few days of use and you will be typing blindfolded!
Personally I found the tilt useful. I do not like the back on the Touch Pro as the diamond profile makes typing on a flat surface unpleasant. The keys on the Touch are easy to press and I think a little more responsive than the Tytn II.
I have ordered a Touch HD which I note does not have this diamond gimic.
Try Calc98 for a good scientific calc.
Regards, D
I've got the two cels and even the Tilt-Kaiser has a nice kb the Touch Pro is way better in every sense....you need to feel it in action, is simply amazing.
I've been researching about this for a while now and the longer I think about which to get, the more confusing it is. I would like to solicit inputs from this forum regarding the pros and cons of each.
The differences between each is relatively minor, which makes it even harder to make a choice.
So far these are the significant features of each handset for me:
HTC Touch Pro
- 2.8-inch screen with VGA resolution
- Five-row QWERTY keyboard
- Has directional-pad
SE XPERIA X1
- 3.0-inch screen with WVGA resolution
- 3.5mm audio jack
- Four-row QWERTY keyboard
- Optical trackpad
HTC Touch Pro2
- 3.6-inch screen with WVGA resolution
- Five-row QWERTY keyboard
- No directional-pad
- Tilting screen (but doesn't the hinge get loose after a while?)
I was also looking at the Touch HD but it did not have a physical tactile QWERTY. I know it does have a big onscreen keyboard but I feel like I will still be longing for something with tactile response after a while.
Another question with regards to these slide-out QWERTY phones is that, does the slide mechanism stay tight for a long time? I've seen videos and these phones use spring-loaded slide-out mechanisms. Anybody ever have them go loose after some time?
Is the directional-pad really that big of a deal with Windows Mobile phones? Is it used in order to avoid taking out the stylus? I've searched around the web and see that many people are complaining about the removal of the d-pad with some models.
As for WVGA and VGA, is there a big enough difference to really go for WVGA?
I may have missed some key differences between these models. If yes, do kindly point them out. As far as I can tell, the hardware specifications of the ones I am looking for are pretty much the same (i.e. processor, RAM/ROM, 3G, GPS, WiFi, etc.)
I would buy the TouchPro2!
I have got the Kaiser (also with the tilt screen) and the tilting/sliding mechanism is out of metal and its working perfect till today after nearly 1 and a half year
On the Kaiser (320x240) I nearly never use the stylus, If I press on the screen with my finger I hit the point I wont
The D-Pad I never user more or less I like to use the wheel at the side which is much more comfortable and when I need some more buttons everything is on the full qwertz keyboard.
But I recognized I type faster with TouchPal on screenkeyboard (with suggestions) than with the hardware keyboard. The hardwarekeyboard never the less is nice for games and emulator
And of cause WVGA / VGA is a big difference 800x480/640x480
no brainer...wait for HTC Touch Pro2!
I would certainly wait for the Touch Pro2. First, it will be the newest HTC device, so it will have official support for a long time to come. Secondly, the tilting screen is very nice to have, especially if you use the device for media. As you can see from my signature, I have a Kaiser, and I love its tilting screen. And the hinge on my Kaiser has barely weakened, if at all. In addition, watch this and this, and you'll see why this phone looks so nice.
Dave
Get a x1 or wait for the pro 2. i got a x1 and its a lot better than the pro but need to wait and see on the pro 2. they have the same specs but i dont like the hindge .on the screen, think u will have problems with that after a while
scilor said:
I would buy the TouchPro2!
I have got the Kaiser (also with the tilt screen) and the tilting/sliding mechanism is out of metal and its working perfect till today after nearly 1 and a half year
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Do you always tilt the screen up?
scilor said:
On the Kaiser (320x240) I nearly never use the stylus, If I press on the screen with my finger I hit the point I wont
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Then it would be much easier on the HTC Touch phones since they use the TouchFLO interface.
scilor said:
The D-Pad I never user more or less I like to use the wheel at the side which is much more comfortable and when I need some more buttons everything is on the full qwertz keyboard.
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Thing is, the Kaiser is the only one with the wheel on the side. Everything else either has a D-Pad or no D-Pad.
scilor said:
But I recognized I type faster with TouchPal on screenkeyboard (with suggestions) than with the hardware keyboard. The hardwarekeyboard never the less is nice for games and emulator
And of cause WVGA / VGA is a big difference 800x480/640x480
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I honestly am fine with using an on-screen keyboard, but not for a very long time. I've used PocketPC's before and I just seemingly long for a tactile QWERTY keyboard after a while.
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
Secondly, the tilting screen is very nice to have, especially if you use the device for media. As you can see from my signature, I have a Kaiser, and I love its tilting screen. And the hinge on my Kaiser has barely weakened, if at all. In addition, watch this and this, and you'll see why this phone looks so nice.
Dave
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How long have you been using your Kaiser? Do you always tilt the screen up?
Ganondolf said:
Get a x1 or wait for the pro 2. i got a x1 and its a lot better than the pro but need to wait and see on the pro 2.
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A lot better than the HTC Touch Pro in what aspects? The QWERTY on the Touch Pro wins since it has the additional numeric row.
Can you please explain?
Ganondolf said:
they have the same specs but i dont like the hindge .on the screen, think u will have problems with that after a while
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As far as the hinge on the Touch Pro2 is concerned, I honestly won't be tilting it that much (I think).
X1 is the better one now and will be loads cheaper than the TP2. However, if price isn't an issue go with the TP2.
Wait for TP2!!!
I´ll go for it also!
for me, the x1 is the perfect size--I dont like my phones with big faces like the iphone
the x1 has a better screen, looks better.
the keyboard does only have 4 rows on the x1 but the keyboard itself is a lot better in looks and feel.
there is a thread somewhere in the forum (search for it). it has a poll of all the htc devices which one people prefer and the x1 is well in front so its not just me.
as far as pro 2 goes, i would have to play with a live model to give u a honest answer. cant see how people can recommend a hanset that not even out yet. although unlikely it might run like **** and be rubbish, so wait till they have live sets in a shop near u and have a play with one when its out before buying.
Another note on the HTC Touch Pro.
It's the only one with a scroll wheel. Are all the buttons on the Touch Pro non-tactile?
It depends on where you are located. If you are in the USA and not on T-Mobile, get the X1A. If you are on Tmo, wait for the TP2. I had a Touch Pro(Fuze) and while it was a nice unit, I am much happier with the Xperia here in the US on AT&T. If you are not in the USA, get the Xperia or the TP2.
Later..........
blued888 said:
I've been researching about this for a while now and the longer I think about which to get, the more confusing it is. I would like to solicit inputs from this forum regarding the pros and cons of each.
The differences between each is relatively minor, which makes it even harder to make a choice.
So far these are the significant features of each handset for me:
HTC Touch Pro
- 2.8-inch screen with VGA resolution
- Five-row QWERTY keyboard
- Has directional-pad
SE XPERIA X1
- 3.0-inch screen with WVGA resolution
- 3.5mm audio jack
- Four-row QWERTY keyboard
- Optical trackpad
HTC Touch Pro2
- 3.6-inch screen with WVGA resolution
- Five-row QWERTY keyboard
- No directional-pad
- Tilting screen (but doesn't the hinge get loose after a while?)
I was also looking at the Touch HD but it did not have a physical tactile QWERTY. I know it does have a big onscreen keyboard but I feel like I will still be longing for something with tactile response after a while.
Another question with regards to these slide-out QWERTY phones is that, does the slide mechanism stay tight for a long time? I've seen videos and these phones use spring-loaded slide-out mechanisms. Anybody ever have them go loose after some time?
Is the directional-pad really that big of a deal with Windows Mobile phones? Is it used in order to avoid taking out the stylus? I've searched around the web and see that many people are complaining about the removal of the d-pad with some models.
As for WVGA and VGA, is there a big enough difference to really go for WVGA?
I may have missed some key differences between these models. If yes, do kindly point them out. As far as I can tell, the hardware specifications of the ones I am looking for are pretty much the same (i.e. processor, RAM/ROM, 3G, GPS, WiFi, etc.)
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I think I'm gonna wait for the Touch Pro2 and see how it is when I get to demo a unit. Rumored release date here in the Philippines is sometime June 2009.
Btw, is it just me or does the XPERIA screen thinner (less width) and longer (more height) than other HTC's?
A follow-up questoin regarding WVGA screens, are most WM applications compatible with the 800x480 resolution of the newer HTC's? Or does VGA/QVGA still reign?
Thanks!
I love my Fuze (Touch Pro) but I'm versy disappointed with the tiny screen. The TP2 has a huge screen, and more importantly: Incredible features. The only thing that's really got me worried is the lack of a dpad on the portrait face.
That said, I still plan on getting one.
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I love my Fuze (Touch Pro) but I'm versy disappointed with the tiny screen. The TP2 has a huge screen, and more importantly: Incredible features. The only thing that's really got me worried is the lack of a dpad on the portrait face.
That said, I still plan on getting one.
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That's what worries me also, the lack of the d-pad on the TP2.
I had the xperia and i am getting the touch pro. to me the video out is what i need and what the xperia doesn't have. Also the touch pro and the xperia will be a lot less than the touch pro 2 so that was another factor for me.
I have had an X1 for 5 months........in fact I have had five X1s.
All have had cracked cases and I have had enough.
I am changing for a HD Pro (XDA Serra on O2 UK)
I will miss the screen but the basic spec is very similar.
Very poor show Sony and many thanks to O2 for allowing an exchange.
Don't go for the Touch Pro, WVGA is the screen of the future, and all newer interfaces will likely be optimized for it. It'll become harder and harder to get non buggy ROMS for VGA screes as time goes on.
The X1 is awesome, and looks the best of the bunch, not to mention it is not bulky like the others. It still has SE support as they still get ROM updates with new features (unlike HTC which may just fix a bug or 2, but never updates the actual features).
X1 Cons: The screen is only 3.0 inches which is bigger than 2.8, but still not big. SE didn't build all of the niceties of Touch Flo devices into it such as nicer contacts screen, new volume app, etc.
The TP2 is a powerhouse, and has everything you could ever want except for the cheesy looking plastic build, and the gargantuan size.
If aesthetics are important to you go X1, if having the latest, greatest, is important go TP2.
Hey guys, don't forget if the rumors are true, we'll be getting the "omnia pro" AND the x2 sometime soon, and I think a couple more, though I can't remember what atm. There are alot of new choices with sliding KBs out there. Personally, after the fuze and now the omnia, my preference would have the following: tv-out (must), WVGA (must)(the new future), hard KB (must, preferably w/ tilt), flash for camera (want, not need), FM radio (want, not need). I miss not having a Dpad, but cope w/o it, same with the scroll wheel (ala kaiser), and stylus. Headphone jack, there are always adapters.
hey guys, i've been using my Touch Pro for 1 year lately and i'm quite happy about it , and now after only 12 months that so many things happen (new phones come out, new OS, new Software that only fits newer phones,...) just make me wondering that, should i replace my Touch Pro and upgrade to a newer phone (such as Touch Pro 2, because you know i love qwerty keyboard phone ) or should i just keep my old lovely also my best buddy and wait for a couple few year to see how things work out , please guys, if you have any idea, comment or useful advise, just help me out so i could make the right decision
personally, I think i would say no....
the touch pro 2 is barely different from the tp1... If I want to upgrade, I want to have (at the minimum) a processor upgrade not the same freaking processor..-_-
I'd have to agree, plus the touch pro 2 does not even have a LED light on the back. No one likes to be left in the dark
i have to recomend hd2? touch2, its not touch pro 2. its newer version of touch. i think thats it
I heard that AT&T insurance is offering a Touch Pro 2 as a replacement to my phone. Called them and did an insurance claim on my Fuze (fault touch screen - had a minor dead zone that bothered me only a little bit over the past year).
They initially tried to give me a Pure but i wanted a keyboard, they are sending me a replacement refurb touch pro 2 instead.
I will miss the fuze's led light (used it often when installing sound systems). But want the larger screen.
There is really no change between the touch pro and the touch pro 2 aside from screen size. You get no better camera, no faster processor, and no additional buttons (from what i understand).
Id say if you must have a larger screen - and you can get a touch pro 2 for $50, it might be worth it. (key word is might)
Having just moved on from the Fuze (Raphael/Touch Pro) to the Tilt 2 (Rhodium/Touch Pro 2), I would say that it's not worth upgrading unless your TP isn't working right and you can get a replacement for $50. I also got mine device as an insurance replacement, and I must say, the screen is beautiful. Very large, and clear. And from a chef's perspective, it's really nice not to have to wait for packages to be ported - to have a device that's still (relatively) supported, and for which new ROMs are still coming out (infrequently, but still).
But I do miss the flashlight on my old device. I also miss the ability to get TMC updates for OnCourse Navigator using the HyperGPS driver. And I dislike that AVRCP doesn't work right, because the Bluetooth stack is completely different (I can't use it with anything other than WMP/Sense, like the old days on the Raph). I also miss the D-Pad (I know, it was a poorly designed D-pad, but it was SOMETHING). I also prefer the Raph Smart Touch wheel over the Zoom bar that the Rhodium has (whose idea was that?).
Overall, I feel that the Raphael actually has more/better features than the Rhodium - the only thing the Rhodium has over the Raphael, IMO, is the screen (resolution, tilt - if you think that's a feature). But that is just one man's opinion . . .
yes right, tp2 is just a screen upgrade...
i want a desire with qwertz keyboard!
who else? ^^
please htc make a desire pro or something like that would be great.
I'd suggest trying out the new Resco 6.00 beta keyboard and see if you like it. If you do, then go for the HD2 (keeping in mind that the keyboard will be bigger and better on the larger screen). The rhodium never seemed all that great to me, but I guess since all the new devices are wvga, like Cptn said, there are more packages available for it nowadays.
I'm using my fuze til it dies.
Captain_Throwback said:
Having just moved on from the Fuze (Raphael/Touch Pro) to the Tilt 2 (Rhodium/Touch Pro 2), I would say that it's not worth upgrading unless your TP isn't working right and you can get a replacement for $50. I also got mine device as an insurance replacement, and I must say, the screen is beautiful. Very large, and clear. And from a chef's perspective, it's really nice not to have to wait for packages to be ported - to have a device that's still (relatively) supported, and for which new ROMs are still coming out (infrequently, but still).
But I do miss the flashlight on my old device. I also miss the ability to get TMC updates for OnCourse Navigator using the HyperGPS driver. And I dislike that AVRCP doesn't work right, because the Bluetooth stack is completely different (I can't use it with anything other than WMP/Sense, like the old days on the Raph). I also miss the D-Pad (I know, it was a poorly designed D-pad, but it was SOMETHING). I also prefer the Raph Smart Touch wheel over the Zoom bar that the Rhodium has (whose idea was that?).
Overall, I feel that the Raphael actually has more/better features than the Rhodium - the only thing the Rhodium has over the Raphael, IMO, is the screen (resolution, tilt - if you think that's a feature). But that is just one man's opinion . . .
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on point... got a free tp2 from my dad but gave it back cuz the size of the screen is not worth the features you lose.