HTC Cruise or HTC Dimond? - Touch Cruise General

Please i need you advice
I'm standard Pocket PC user... I need to decide whether to buy Dimond or Cruise
I've read a lot of review and comparisons but i need user opinion
Thank you for your time

Hello Fadi,
I have a TC and my cousin just bought the Diamond. I was unlocking his Diamond, and had used his phone for 2 days.
Good :
- Lovely look and feel
- Lighter than TC
- Smaller than TC in size (screen is same 2.8")
- VGA Screen!
BAD:
- Usability is bad for the navigation pad! while pressing left or right, many times end up pressing the call buttons! they are too near, and u have to press exactly near the ring.
- The HTC Home interface is quiet slow! the phone i felt seemed slower than the TC
- VGA Screen didnt make much difference to me compared to my TC.
- the 4gb internal storage looks as if htc just put in a 4gb MicroSD card inside! If u install apps on it, they are treated as if installed on a storage card! not the main memory!
- Main memory is less - only 80mb for programs!
- this attracts too much of Thumbprints, so looks horrible after handling it for some time, have to keep cleaning it time to time, so that it stays totally clean and without any thumbprints!
- Biggest disadvantage i see is - The Scroll wheel is not there! The touch sensitive scrolling in the diamond is ONLY for album and Opera! not for browsing contacts or any other navigation work, other than those 2. I use the scroll wheel a lot in my TC
I was about to go in for this trading in my TC, but then didnt, coz i was not happy with it, i didnt like it much, and i think the Touch Cruise is more handy and better.

I think, the diamond is more for girl !

Touch Cruise vs Diamond battle wins iPhone 3G
Just returned my TC to RMA (broken camera, broken wlan, blue tooth is not stable), and ordered iPhone 3G... What will I miss for awhile is Jabra blue tooth earphones support... Everything else is already there and UI designed for fingers...
Microsoft should redesign the whole Windows Mobile shell and applications to be so user-friendly as 3G... To use even Thouch Cruise with one hand is almost impossible... Try it driving your bike, you'll see what I mean.

I just bought an iphone 3g also and I'm selling my cruise.
The iphone OS response time versus the Windows Mobile is a tremendous difference. iphone is so much faster

Thanks
Insane Devil said:
Hello Fadi,
I have a TC and my cousin just bought the Diamond. I was unlocking his Diamond, and had used his phone for 2 days.
Good :
- Lovely look and feel
- Lighter than TC
- Smaller than TC in size (screen is same 2.8")
- VGA Screen!
BAD:
- Usability is bad for the navigation pad! while pressing left or right, many times end up pressing the call buttons! they are too near, and u have to press exactly near the ring.
- The HTC Home interface is quiet slow! the phone i felt seemed slower than the TC
- VGA Screen didnt make much difference to me compared to my TC.
- the 4gb internal storage looks as if htc just put in a 4gb MicroSD card inside! If u install apps on it, they are treated as if installed on a storage card! not the main memory!
- Main memory is less - only 80mb for programs!
- this attracts too much of Thumbprints, so looks horrible after handling it for some time, have to keep cleaning it time to time, so that it stays totally clean and without any thumbprints!
- Biggest disadvantage i see is - The Scroll wheel is not there! The touch sensitive scrolling in the diamond is ONLY for album and Opera! not for browsing contacts or any other navigation work, other than those 2. I use the scroll wheel a lot in my TC
I was about to go in for this trading in my TC, but then didnt, coz i was not happy with it, i didnt like it much, and i think the Touch Cruise is more handy and better.
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Really Thank you for the great comparison
For me i like very much the idea of the SMSD chatting and call log enhancement
What do you think?

Thanks Insane Devil for the comparison, because i my self are thinking of sell my Cruise and buy a Diamond, but i wonder... I think i wait for the official Wm 6.1 for Cruise and look after that.
Isnt it so that if you made a hard reset you lost all settings like Cruise? Because when you have a backup of the setting in your Sd-card its very easy to restore the backup. With Diamond you must have the backup files in your Pc? and load it from there. isnt it so? Now with Cruise you have backups allways with you in the card and all the cab-files you need

omaga said:
Thanks Insane Devil for the comparison, because i my self are thinking of sell my Cruise and buy a Diamond, but i wonder... I think i wait for the official Wm 6.1 for Cruise and look after that.
Isnt it so that if you made a hard reset you lost all settings like Cruise? Because when you have a backup of the setting in your Sd-card its very easy to restore the backup. With Diamond you must have the backup files in your Pc? and load it from there. isnt it so? Now with Cruise you have backups allways with you in the card and all the cab-files you need
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I don't think so my friend as the 4G is seen as memory card in the Dimond
so you'll not lose any saved data on it

I see, now I understand so there is no problem with storing stuff in the memory..Thanks for your answer fadimck!! Im much more wiser now Thanks!

dyter said:
I think, the diamond is more for girl !
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I don't agree with you

I have TC and I wonder to buy Diamond too
Importent thing for me is that big different among VGA on QVGA screen.
On 2,8 seem to me that not big.

Cruise or Diamond?
So I bought a Diamond an recieved a Cruise as gift.
I sold the Diamond, The reaction time of the diamond is not so good, an Im very satisfied with the cruise!
The ones who want a nice, small and stylish device --->Diamond
The others, gamers and those who are always reflashing device for a faster and nicer ROM i think theyre better with the cruise.
(my opinion)

I like Cruise more,
1.The battery of Diamond is too weak.
2.Cruise is faster than Diamond.

Demigor said:
Touch Cruise vs Diamond battle wins iPhone 3G
Just returned my TC to RMA (broken camera, broken wlan, blue tooth is not stable), and ordered iPhone 3G... What will I miss for awhile is Jabra blue tooth earphones support... Everything else is already there and UI designed for fingers...
Microsoft should redesign the whole Windows Mobile shell and applications to be so user-friendly as 3G... To use even Thouch Cruise with one hand is almost impossible... Try it driving your bike, you'll see what I mean.
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There comes the Iphone brigade!
I too had the same dilemma but eventually opted for the TC since the Diamond model in India comes without 3G. And the Iphone was tempting but with no front camera I thought it was a waste since India is going to have 3g very soon and no video call option of Apple. And with Apple its better to wait till they are in the 4thG or 5th, even better! Anyway they have no resale value. (in India that's imp. factor, resale value, since we don't get phones on contract or anything)

Personally... I'd wait. If the Touch Pro were an option, and I had to buy now, I'd go with that. I have the Touch Cruise, it's fine -- would probably like it much better if it had T-Mobile USA 3G bands. If the Diamond had 3D video drivers, that might be a factor -- but as it doesn't, and you can't expand the memory, seems like throwing money down the drain...

the cruise faster than the diamond? how's that posible?
im buying one of these 2 pda's next week, but i cant decide wich one, i would go for the cruise bcuz of his robust material and seemingly more durable, and the diamond for its size, and its VGA screen, there is of course the battery difference, am i missing something? are these valid arguments for choosing one or other?
thanks for your advice

Cruise has expandable memory while Diamond is fixed to 4GB internal if that's important to you. Also the Cruise is more of a true world phone since it supports additional frequencies, while the Diamond is regionalized.

Related

Considering Orbit 2...a few questions

I currently have a Blue Angel and I'm considering upgrading to an Orbit 2.
How would the performance compare between the 2? They're both 400MHz, but I just wondered how the Qualcomm is compared to the XScale?
Apart from the video driver issue, are there any other problems with it? I'd mainly be usig it for a phone, and running Tomtom.
Thanks!
Seriously... Don't bother!
LOL...it's that bad?
Can you explain why?
You will miss your qwerty. I don't know your Blue Angel, But my TC (i think all PocketPCs) has a delay when somebody calls you. Your phone will ring/vibrate after the one who calls you hears the first ring. So if somebody just gives you a call with one ring (bip) you won't hear it! Is it the same in your case, or mine is special? Maybe somebody else with TC can confirm/infirm this...
Yea, mine sort of have that sort of dealy.
I don't use my QWERTY keyboard anyway so that's not a problem.
the_scotsman said:
LOL...it's that bad?
Can you explain why?
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Just everything about it...
The build quality is terrible. Feels like a new hobbyist threw it together in 5 mins.
It seriously underperforms compared to my Old SE P990i and older XDA's
The modifications o2 have made to the software are rubbish.
I'm miffed I didn't hold out for the SE X1i
^ In your opinion, yes its not perfect, the screen is less than ideal but the build quality is great I think. Much better than my old SE P series phone which used to creak whenever squeezed etc and the flush screen is better than orbit 1
But I would hold out for the Diamond
I want the built in GPS, and the Diamond prices ae too much for what it is...
Any other decent HTCs with built in GPS?
the_scotsman said:
I currently have a Blue Angel and I'm considering upgrading to an Orbit 2.
How would the performance compare between the 2? They're both 400MHz, but I just wondered how the Qualcomm is compared to the XScale?
Apart from the video driver issue, are there any other problems with it? I'd mainly be usig it for a phone, and running Tomtom.
Thanks!
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I've just switched from a Hermes/Tytn to the Orbit2. HardSPL'd it and installed the WM6.1 that's been floating about here and installed TomTom.
Losing the keyboard is a bit annoying (on screen is usable, but nowhere near as good) - but I realized I very rarely typed anything and smaller sized massively outweighs it.
GPS works very well - especially as Quick GPS which really does work.
Downsides:
Lost keyboard.
Upsides:
GPS - now just not having to lug around and charge my BT GPS module, but now much faster and lets me do all manner of stuff (geo-tag photos with a reg tweak), GPS trackers allowing me to see where I've been in google maps blah blah.
Much better camera - not so much the 2M -> 3M change - but AUTOFOCUS.
SMALLER - now it's not a small phone, but it's not an f'in brick like the last one.
No real difference noticed between the processors. Latest 6.1 I put on my Hermes made it lovely and snappy - and performs exactly the same on the Polaris. Only reservation I've got with the polaris is the screen res (i.e. same old rubbish). Not entirely convinced Hi-res WM is much better though after playign with colleagues PDAs - I've got an ipod touch and THAT is what i'd want somehow wedged into my phone..
In summary, if you want a phone now, I'd definitely get the XDA. If you can wait maybe see how Diamond and 3G iPhone stack up.
#edit - and build quality on my XDA (at least) is perfect. Nice solid feeling thing, love the slightly rubberized case.
Thanks very much for your opinion...I think I might just go with the Orbit 2 after all...a VGA screen would be nice, but I'm happy enough to have the standard one...and it's a little smaller than my BLue Angel so that's always a benefit.
Seriously this is an outstanding device. Software is software and any issues can 99% of the time be sorted with it and normally are, especially when you browse around these forums. Also bare in mind that all these devices now use windows mobile so I don't understand why someone would fault the Orbit 2 over another windows mobile device because of the software it comes with.....anyway the hardware itself is exceptional, I've posted a mini review if you look through my post history and there's plenty of in-depth reviews out there.
Losing the keyboard is a good thing in my opinion. A keyboard isn't necessary, its just as easy (if not easier) to use the software input (my personal preference is a T9 style pad that learns words and is very quick to use with just one hand like a normal phone) and obviously you save on weight and bulk.
The Orbit 2 looks great, is extremely responsive and comfortable to use and in my opinion is the best windows mobile device availible at this time.
Quick edit! - regarding the SW, the rom that the O2 Orbit 2 comes with is actually fine anyway, i've never encountered any issues with it - it would be nice to have the threaded SMS that 6.1 has but aside from that its fine and works great. Cheers!
SOunds like you're pretty damn happy with it then
So the 200MHz processor isn't an issue? Still responds well? Thing like TOmtom run well?
The Orbit 2 has a 400MHz CPU, it was the original Orbit that had 200 -it also has twice the amount of memory. TomTom was perfectly useable on the original Orbit but it noticeably runs smoother on the Orbit 2 - The Orbit 2 is a lot better at managing multiple tasks at the same time.
I was in two minds before upgrading becasue I had the original Orbit and wasn't sure if I'd get my money's worth. I was going to send it back if I wasn't happy with it. I'm more than happy with it though as you can tell! its a great device. You've always got that 14 day cooling period with O2 anyway so you may as well give it a go for yourself.
doh...you're right...I was thinking of the original Orbit.
No 14 day cooling off for me..I'm in Australia so the only way to get at a decent price is eBay.
I think I've been convinced to get the Orbit 2...just a pity it doesn't have VGA...and the diamond will probably be a fair amount more than the Orbit 2
Actually a the Diamond will be cheaper then the Polaris/Orbit2... But my oppinion is that the VGA is too much on a 2.8" screen...
The Orbit 2 is a damn good toy... after tuning the cache and graphic settings..speed was even better than before..
also gps works great...a lot of stuff in a small little case...
I am also happy with my orbit 2, copilot in mo is better then tomtom i have both installed.
I like golive's interface and extra settings plus the website for tracking is a good feature.
The Software available is none stop from here and other sources, unlike the iphone i had that you could only load decentish software if you hacked it..
a couple of minor gripes, the screen is a little shiny for sunny day use and the camera could be alot better.
apart from that i am very happy with it, let hops the diamond touch flo 3d becomes available then that will make this device look great.
the hsdpa speed is great when in the right areas, 50k download speed from my laptop...
the gps seems acurate enough, fast on a warm start as well.
its performance could be a little better but overall its very good.
I would install opera mini as i have found this much better then ie and opera mobile for day to day use.
as for the missing keyboard, try touchpal or the diamond keyboards, also make sure you adjust the sensivity of the screen do a search on here, i think the keyboard is great been software as you can load loads of different types and type quicker with the stylus on some over a flip out keyboard.
the flip out keyboard types can be a little thicker as well you cannot replace or remap keys like a software keyboard so there are plus's and minus's to both concepts...
if you type alot then get a bluetooth keyboard, or a laptop.....
i don't think you will b unhappy with your purchase...
Actually imho any HTC device when just introduced will very rarely be upto my expectation and initially i am always dissapointed,for the first few days,its just a matter of customizing(a heart felt thanks to this forum for teaching us how too) to our personal choice and then i just can't seem to live without them.When i took the Cruise i returned it the next day,very dissapointed with the handset,nothing it could do(and in the factory state it could'nt domuch)was enough,I thought that my Kaiser was far better,then after going through the Cruise forum went and picked it up again,customized it and now wonder how did I ever think negatively abbout this handset,I just love it the feel of it in my hand and also the perfomance,ended up keeping both the Kaiser and Cruise without regrets.

ETEN Glofiish X800 vs TyTNII?

Hello guys...
After some technical problems with my Kaiser (now in service), and after realizing that I don't really use the hardware keyboard all that much (a major criterion when I chose Kaiser), I was thinking of trading it for the ETEN Glofiish X800. I'm tempted by the 500MHz processor and the brilliant VGA screen, however are there any opinions on how well it fares in other issues? GPS, overall speed etc?
Thanks in advance,
t
if you don't want a keyboard anymore, you should maybe also consider the HTC Touch Diamond...very small and light, nice vga screen, gps, 4GB internal memory, etc.
Hmmm you could be right, I didn't think of that. Its processor is running @ 400MHz instead of 500, though, and a full €100/$160 more than the X800, so I'm not sure how it compares. One big plus is the wealth of custom ROMs lying around - haven't seen anything for the ETEN device...
Thanks for the advice
btw, don't forget to consider the iPhone 3G too...maybe not so interessting if you have a lot of windows mobile specific applications...but for normal use like mail, phone, calendar, etc it can be interessting.
anyway, before buying any new device, I can advice everyone to wait like a month or two, untill the iPhone 3G gets available everywhere. I hope the prices of many other windows mobile devices will drop after the 3G introduction.
the diamond and 3g are very comparable device, still the diamond costs 500euro and the 3g will be something like 300euro (without contract) in Belgium. so i expect htc will have to drop theire prices to concurrent with apple.
Ah no, not interested in iPhones! Not only do I need the Windows functionality indeed, but I have developed a certain anti-anti-establishment feeling against it, I just hate how 'hip' it has become
Still competition is good nonetheless. Now, I wonder, why on earth hasn't the TyTNII come down since its launch, at least in Greece? Still going for €800!
i too still prefer windows mobile because of some applications I couldn't live without...but after playing for a while with an iPhone I was really impressed with its responsiveness and stability. It couldn't nearly do as much as what I can do with my windows mobile device, but the things that the iPhone could do were working very well, very smooth. And that's something I can't say from my pocket pc. But anyway, I already got used to the many crashes and softreset that it now doesn't really bother me anymore
So have I, have used Windows for so long I'm all too used to it The firts major disadvantage of the iPhone would be the GPS functionality - what would I do without my iGo?
So, anyone with an idea about the ETEN vs HTC?
eten FTW! i just wished it had a BIGGER vga screen like the iphone! but the gps sirf III kills that iphone AGPS for sure! plus i hate mac stuff!
just wished our x800 had more internal RAM! 64 is not enuff!
I had an X800 before I got my Touch Cruise and I have to say, the only thing better than the TC is the VGA screen, other than that, it kept developing a Micro SD problem where the locking mechanism would break and the SD card wouldn't lock in place (I had one replacement unit, and an attempted repair, and it seems other people have had the same problem) It is also significantly slower than my TC (when you press a menu option in TomTom, you can see the menu layers change it is that slow!). Couple that with the recessed screen so it's almost impossible to press the x button without using the stylus, and I'm much happier with the touch cruise than the X800. I won't buy another E-Ten device as they seem to have very poor after sales service, and almost non-existent support for European users!

Pros and Cons HTC Touch Pro aka HTC Raphael

Pros and Cons HTC Touch Pro aka HTC Raphael
I have Touch Pro with original ROM: 1.90.404.1 NLD
Done some registry hacks found in many threads.
Here is a PDF which has some of my noticed Pros and Cons of this phone compared to my old one: HTC p3300 and compared with the Touch Diamond and possible also the iPhone.
What do you think?
Add Pros and Cons on this thread to make the list longer, or if you have solutions for some problems place them here as well.
Greetz
Does the camera light stay on when the camera is in video mode?
I had the Eten X500+ and when I switched it to camera mode (not recording video but switched from photo mode to video camera mode) the led light on the back would stay on and made a great flashlight!
Can someone let me know if the Touch Pro does the same thing?
That would be a definite pro!
thing is, if they ever made the perfect PDA they would never be able to shift other devices unless it had major leeps in technology software and hardware wise.
That is exactly why i think they cut out the SD slot on the diamond and gave it less RAM. it makes a market for 2 devices, in this case the Diamond and the Pro, i am pretty sure that had the diamond had those two extra features sales of the pro would have been poor, only folk needing a keyboard would have bothered getting it.
Which is exactly why i cant decide which to go for yet.
paultje_007 said:
Pros and Cons HTC Touch Pro aka HTC Raphael
I have Touch Pro with original ROM: 1.90.404.1 NLD
Done some registry hacks found in many threads.
Here is a PDF which has some of my noticed Pros and Cons of this phone compared to my old one: HTC p3300 and compared with the Touch Diamond and possible also the iPhone.
What do you think?
Add Pros and Cons on this thread to make the list longer, or if you have solutions for some problems place them here as well.
Greetz
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nice info, thanks mate.
dazza9075 said:
thing is, if they ever made the perfect PDA they would never be able to shift other devices unless it had major leeps in technology software and hardware wise.
That is exactly why i think they cut out the SD slot on the diamond and gave it less RAM. it makes a market for 2 devices, in this case the Diamond and the Pro, i am pretty sure that had the diamond had those two extra features sales of the pro would have been poor, only folk needing a keyboard would have bothered getting it.
Which is exactly why i cant decide which to go for yet.
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I think it was mentioned that HTC had to leave out sd slot to keep it the size it is. I cant believe they would do that just to help with Pro sales. The keyboard is enough of a difference to get people to buy it. Just my opinion.
pjmiebach said:
Does the camera light stay on when the camera is in video mode?
I had the Eten X500+ and when I switched it to camera mode (not recording video but switched from photo mode to video camera mode) the led light on the back would stay on and made a great flashlight!
Can someone let me know if the Touch Pro does the same thing?
That would be a definite pro!
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On Pro if you open camera and click on options and then click on Flash On it turns on what I would call a "Modeling Light" that stays on then flashes when you take the shot - kind of like a strobe. So yes this modeling light is a great flashlight in a pinch. Thanks for pointing that out - I had not thought of that.
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I think it was mentioned that HTC had to leave out sd slot to keep it the size it is. I cant believe they would do that just to help with Pro sales. The keyboard is enough of a difference to get people to buy it. Just my opinion.
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thats possible, but if you look at the size of them, there is very little difference in it, and the actual size of a microSD is only a couple of mm including the connections, their not daft, i wonder how many folk go for the pro over the diamond only because it has SD, and that will be the number of forced upgrades HTC has made by not including the SD.
I just had the diamond in my hands and its tiny compared to my Orbit, i dont need the keyboard but the SD is a big boon on the pro so thats the way im leaning. otherwise id have the diamond in a flash. instantly more money for HTC
instantly more money for HTC
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Only of you buy it
You're right in that they obviously need to distinguish the models sufficiently so they appeal to different market segments. A microSD was probably a feature that was decided to be in the more business-like Pro, and it's their prerogative to design their phones however they like. They're in it to make money, and they are going to try to squeeze as much money out of us as they can.
Anyway, there's always the Samsung i900 Omnia. It looks like an excellent phone, thinner, 8 or 16GB of internal storage as well as a microSD slot (although it does have a lower WQVGA resolution). Personally I went with the Pro because of the microSD (over the Diamond), keyboard (over the Diamond and Omnia) and the screen (over the Omnia).
Have fun making a decision, it's half the fun of getting a phone/gadget
pjmiebach said:
Does the camera light stay on when the camera is in video mode?
I had the Eten X500+ and when I switched it to camera mode (not recording video but switched from photo mode to video camera mode) the led light on the back would stay on and made a great flashlight!
Can someone let me know if the Touch Pro does the same thing?
That would be a definite pro!
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Indeed, in camcorder mode the light on the back stays on constantly.
Incarniac said:
Only of you buy it
You're right in that they obviously need to distinguish the models sufficiently so they appeal to different market segments. A microSD was probably a feature that was decided to be in the more business-like Pro, and it's their prerogative to design their phones however they like. They're in it to make money, and they are going to try to squeeze as much money out of us as they can.
Anyway, there's always the Samsung i900 Omnia. It looks like an excellent phone, thinner, 8 or 16GB of internal storage as well as a microSD slot (although it does have a lower WQVGA resolution). Personally I went with the Pro because of the microSD (over the Diamond), keyboard (over the Diamond and Omnia) and the screen (over the Omnia).
Have fun making a decision, it's half the fun of getting a phone/gadget
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Ugh, the Omnia? I seem to be the only one who feels this way, but I think the Omnia is a piece of garbage compared to the Xperia/Touch Pro. I don't understand why it's included in all of the talks, every review I've seen makes it out to be comparable to an LG Dare... Which, although a nice phone, isn't going to really impress anybody.
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but I think the Omnia is a piece of garbage compared to the Xperia/Touch Pro. I don't understand why it's included in all of the talks
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I wouldn't call it a piece of garbage, but you're probably right in terms of comparing it to the Xperia and Touch Pro. If the Touch Diamond is an option (as it appeared to be), however, then I would think the Omnia is as well (unless the difference in screen resolution is a deciding factor).
2 new cons
Here are 2 new cons:
I would like to see more favorites in the Contacts Tab of Tflo3d.
It would actually than be unlimited 'Contacts Tab' and no longer '15 Favorites Contacts Tab'.
PLus I would like to see a bluetooth icon on the 'Start'-bar or Menu-bar when bluetooth is on. Now when bluetooth is on and you browse through your phone there's no way to tell if bluetooth is still on, no icons or flashing lights tell you so.
If you forgot it is still on your battery will eat more power than when it's off.
Good place would be just left next to the 3G (or H [HSDPA]) icon.
Greetz
pallemans
Isnt't there a Bluetooth icon already on the start bar "just left next to the 3G (or H [HSDPA]) icon."...? Is on mine...
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Isnt't there a Bluetooth icon already on the start bar "just left next to the 3G (or H [HSDPA]) icon."...? Is on mine...
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Just tried it on mine and I get one too, right where he suggested would be a good place
Yeap... there it is...
But the issue with the maximum of 15 contacts is bothering me too...
Did anyone find a tweak to increase that?
paulyluca said:
Yeap... there it is...
But the issue with the maximum of 15 contacts is bothering me too...
Did anyone find a tweak to increase that?
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I'm guessing there is a reg tweak. Some one on here managed to get some extra tiles and stuff on the programs tab (didnt get it 100% working but I think they're still trying). I bet there is a similar tweak for the contacts page.
Bluetooth Icon and more favorites contacts
Yep, I got the bluetooth icon back, but had to perform a hard reset to get it.
So if someone knows the reg edit to get the bluetooth icon back ones you've lost it that would be great. I probably lost it using Advanced Config Tools 3.1 or when entering some reg tweaks from several threads here on XDA.
This is for when I lose it again.
Second: The adding more persons to the contacts tab than just those 15 'favorites', so far nobody knows how. The only solution is the upcoming touchXperience by schap's, but this is a completely refurbished touchflo3d version.
I hope this touchXperience is all I need, to make TouchFlo3D better than it is now.
Greets Pallemans
Still undecided
Great feedback. However, I still cant decide. If only the Omnia had a better screen resolution. Or if only the TouchPro had generous storage as the Omnia....
illi said:
Great feedback. However, I still cant decide. If only the Omnia had a better screen resolution. Or if only the TouchPro had generous storage as the Omnia....
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I am not sure what is making it so hard, you can always get a 8gb microsd class IV on ebay for around 40, and the internal storage of 500mb is obvious sufficient for any program you'll need if you are worrying about the loading time...
that Pro has "small" (?) internal storage is a non-issue
before x-mas we'll have 16GB microSD and probably even 32GB

Upgrading my HTC to a better model?

Hi guys,
I have a HTC 3600 (Trinity) in white and have a had a great time "playing" with it, upgrading the ROMS occasionally and adding plenty of addons and software etc. I love(ed) it. But I think now is the time to upgrade, but the question is... To What?
I''ve scanned through the forum for advice and personal opinians etc and all I can find is recommendations and references to:
- HTC Touch Cruise
- HTC TyTN II
- Hermes 8125
- HTC Tilt
I dont like the HTC Tilt because it looks too big/bulky - very much reminds me of the first Nokia COmmunicator (lol)
But What about the HTC Touch Diamond is that a better version of the HTC Touch Cruise?
My present phone was just the right size (medium, but not too bulky).
The main features I liked about my trinity:
+ Windows Mobile software
+ Touchscreen (no keyboard)
+ 2-sided Camera (although it was a poor MP)
+ Internal GPS / TomTom
+ GPRS
+ WiFi
+ External memory card (Mini SD - I have a 4Gb card, it would be nice to reuse it)
+ Nice colour (white instead of the common black/grey)
+ Support for custom ROM's etc
Is it me or do the 'new' phones lack in available colours? they just appear to be the dark grey/black shiny... are the no better colours for these phones? I loved my HTC 3600 in white!
Does anyone care to offer me any reccomendations? I tend to go with something that several people have recommended (my theory is if 5 people say a particular phone is good and only 3 people say another is good, I tend to follow the majority).
Thanks for your help.
Is anyone willing to help me out a bit here? Just a few one-liner reply's would go a long way.
Thanks.
I have a Touch Cruise and I'm really happy with it. It might be a bit to big, but I just have to face the fact that it's more then just a cellphone Still fits in my pocket with no problems at all.
It has lots of feature and feels really fast and powerful. I can recommend it to you without regrets!
But this is my first HTC and my first advanced device, so I don't have any reference points. I have it and I'm happy
if you like expansion slot, touch cruise is the way to go, but you might face the microSD slot does not close properly or does not read the card. my first one the slot does not close, keep on popping the card out, second one does not read and recognize any card, the third one finally work properly, but the wheel is broken so i got a tytn ii instead
I went from a Trinity to a Touch Diamond, and can really recommend it. What you lose it in the transition: expandable memory (no SDHC cards, my memory halved form 8GB to 4GB), scroll wheel, huge battery. What you gain: a much smaller form factor, a VGA screen (has to be seen to be believed), TouchFlo3D, the flush touchscreen, and a (subjectively) faster fix with GPS.
If you want something with a larger screen go for the recently-leaked Touch HD.
I would recommend Universal for all over any other phone/PDA
I know is a little bulky, but the lovely VGA 3.5" screen, 524mhz processor and it´s beautyfull keyboard makes me forget about the size easily. works perfect for buisness and pleassure
Oh wowwww, the Touch HD looks so beautiful! I dont know if I can wait 3 months... or at least 4 months before it surfaces in the UK.
Should I wait?
I was ready to get the Touch Pro. But since seeing the Touch HD, I'm now waiting for this amazing spec's device!!

Which phone to get HTC HD2 or Toshiba TG01

Hi,
I am looking to replace my MDA Compact IV with either the HTC HD2 or the Toshiba TG01 or iPhone 3GS.
I have not really seen either of these phones properly, but have read reviews online.
Does anyone have any views on which is the better phone??
I have thown the iPhone in as a comparison, but would rather stick with a WM based phone.
right off the back i say the hd2 its packing a 1gz snapdragon processor. switching from the iphone and going to the hd2 u well be please. It basically the touch pro 2 with out a keyboard but the tp2 is packing a 512mb processor.
But i say get the HD2 ur getting a fast phone, better cam, look better and you can tweak your phone etc. idk it the shi lol
DONT GET THE TOSHIBA TG01!!!
I sold mine after only a few weeks, here are the problems i found after upgrading to windows mobile 6.5
1) the funky home screen stopped moving in 3D and only kinds slid across the screen
2) the g-sensor is crap somtimes u turn the phone and nothing happens, then you turn it back and it will quickly flick from landsacape to portrait
3) programs stored on the SD card, the icons would disapear after a soft reset, only leaving the generic blue and white .exe icon in there place
4)the phone is 2 thin and thus the sylus cannot be house in the housing like a htc device making it awfull to use, always saying to ur mates "DID U SEE WHERE I PUT MY STYLUS" lol
5) in landscape mode the wm start menu looks awfull and only takes up the middle section of the screen
6)there are black bars at the top and bottom of the screen, you dont notice when using a pitch black theme like "htc black//0 but use a colourful one and it looks like the top bar has dropped down a bit and it very annoying lol
i could prob remember more if you gave me a minute lol GET THE HTC HD 2
BeEazy10 said:
right off the back i say the hd2 its packing a 1gz snapdragon processor. switching from the iphone and going to the hd2 u well be please. It basically the touch pro 2 with out a keyboard but the tp2 is packing a 512mb processor.
But i say get the HD2 ur getting a fast phone, better cam, look better and you can tweak your phone etc. idk it the shi lol
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the tgo1 has the 1gig snapdragon processor too, it only has 288mb of ram compaired to the hd 2's 512mb
Thanks for the replies, looks like it will be the HD2 then given the responses.
Does anyone know what the battery life is like on the HD2 as I can only get approx 2 days from my current MDA compact IV (Diamond Touch) which is really annoying.
Also, now my mda is out of contract, may have a go at changing the rom. Which are the best roms for it??
Don't know if it is of any importance for you but TG01 has USB host and it was confirmed that mouse, keyboards and gamepads work very well with it. Don't know about flash drives though.
BEERMONSTER! said:
Thanks for the replies, looks like it will be the HD2 then given the responses. Does anyone know what the battery life is like on the HD2 as I can only get approx 2 days from my current MDA compact IV (Diamond Touch) which is really annoying.
Also, now my mda is out of contract, may have a go at changing the rom. Which are the best roms for it??
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Check out XDA's Leo HD2 section of the forum. It has all the answers, info, & detailed threads for you...
BTW, I highly recommend the Leo!
HD2. no doubt
I can't have an opinion on the TG01, as I have not tried it. I own an iphone 3GS and recently replaced a touch HD with touch HD2.
The HD2 is, by far, superior to any phone I ever used. I have been with ETEN, and HTC for over 4 years, and iphone since the first generation. The [email protected] is the one. On any given category- it's a winner.
Screen is amazing. Capacitive (multi finger) like the iphone, but resolution is much better and 4.3" is a killer screen. GPS apps are killing the iphone in any comparison. Don't get fooled by 85,000 apps on the apple store. 84,850 of them will have no use for you, and the ones that are- you will find WM app that does the same.
Compatibility with Exchange server and outlook (actually all office apps) - HD2 wins big time again.
Keyboard- HD2 again. though the iphone is about the same, the HD2 has a wide screen. It helps a lot.
Reception - it's a phone after all - HD2 wins again (on AT&T network in the US). sound is crystal clear.
CPU speed- HD2 wins again. The snapdragon is a monster.
Battery life - OK, you can't win them all. The iphone has a better battery life, BUT I have two batteries and the HD2 wins again (with a cheat). Can't have the iphone battery out that easy.
BT - the HD2 wins again with great stereo that the 3GS can dream of having.
Music - no need for the stupid itune app. For me, it was annoying. I have 2 laptops and could never have itunes work right for me because you need to work around syncing your device. Not to mention I had hard time moving purchased songs from the ipod to the phone. You need to beg apple folks to support you after you have already paid. with the HD2 you simply put the MP3 on the SD card and you are done.
SD card- HD2 wins big time with 32G support, and replaceable cards. iphone is 16G at best and that's about it.
Camera- Until the HD2 I was thinking iphone has a great camera. Boy how wrong i could be. The HD2 with a dual LED flash wins again. Just make sure to have the camera bug fixed with a cab install and it is winning again.
Lastly- HTC is the Mercedes-Benz of phones. Apple came up with a great device but HTC eventually came out with a better one. Toshiba? Great TV sets, no doubts, but phones? They are far behind, IMO...
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but phones? They are far behind, IMO...
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Keep in mind the HD2 came out a fair while after the TG01... I don't know if it's really fair to say Toshiba is behind, if anything HTC was behind for a little while in terms of hardware...
But of course right now I would say HD2 is the way to go...
Toshiba is old. I'd get an HD2!

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