Before I ask this question, please understand that I am still a noob. Is the reason to have cooked roms with appz built in better because it is better for storage space and RAM than having a minimal ROM and adding the appz thru CABs? .....Please don't judge me
Cooked ROM anytime.
It's a good question...
The answer will always be cooked ROM though, because you can fit more programs into the actual ROM itself.... otherwise the space is just wasted.
When packages are cooked into ROM, they are compressed and hence take up less space. But when the same packages are installed on phone memory they are not. Also the ROM area is faster to read then the phone memory so, Yes, packages cooked inside rom will perform faster and will take up less space. But RAM usage will remain same.
but the problem with cooking in the cabs is it's more work to upgrade to later versions
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I am looking for a new XDA phone and I noticed that most have 64 Ram, but 128 Rom. On my xda I the rom had to be flashed and the ram was used for storage and running programs. Is this not the case anymore? Thanks.
-Ross
ROM in WM2005 is used for programs and storage, while the RAM is plainly program memory for the programs to run into.
Well then in that case, do you not lose your data when your battery dies. Or is there a seperate rom for OS?
That's right...no more data loss.. ...this is called persistent memory in wm2005...(a hard reset or even a normal flash won't delete ur data,u will have to choose an additional option in bootscreen to delete them..)
RAGO :lol:
Please I need some help
I want to know how to edit the EXROM and modify it and maybe remove it
Please in details and if I remove it am I going to gain more space in RAM
Another question why RAM in jam is 57 instead of 64 as they said in the commercial and in the web site
Bad English right
Hi.
First of all:
You won't get any more RAM by removing ExtROM.
It is possible to gain more "Storage" by changing amount of ExtROM. (Your device's persistent memory [ROM] is divided into "Storage" and ExtROM).
I'd recommend you, not to tamper with ExtROM too much.
The reason you see less than 64MB of RAM is simple. System uses small amount all the time. But that's not that much.
If you want your problems with memory to go away forever, just but a nice SD memory card.
Then, you should install all programs in "Storage Card", and you always have planty of RAM and ROM free.
As for 64MB of RAM... don't cry about that. If you'd have 128MB, your device would have nearly 2 times shorter battery standby time.
Notice that newer devices (especially WM2005 ones) come with 64MB RAM not 128. That's because they come with much more ROM, and try using ROM to store all data. That makes them save energy, which is neded to keep RAM alive.
Have fun.
Short Story:
Is there a way to change what my HTC device thinks is program only RAM vs Storage only?
Long Story:
I have an HTC Titan, but thats not important as this is a standard question. I couldn't find a similar question or answer by searching the forums, but if someone has a better search keyword for me to use, post it here too.
Is there a way to expand what the device thinks is Program memory? I'm trying to install CoD to test the Mogul (even if you post that it doesnt work I still like to know my original question). I have about 20mb left of "program" memory, 130mb left of "storage", and a 512micro sd empty (minor IE cache and attachments on it). I'm of course assuming that the ROM just makes those setting in the RAM and its not two seperate chips.
from wm5 ms changed the way memory is handled / works
pda's used to use flash for the rom
and ram devived between application and storage
but as batt death would delete peoples storage
and flash becomming dirt cheap
they changed it so ram was only! used
for application memory
and flash was used for storage
so the slider to devive oneself is no longer present
there are tools at least for some devices which make a ramdisk for
the pda which take some of the application memory and let one
install stuff on it you
can check buzzdev.net to see if that tool DiscOnChip is out for your devices
So they are fundamentally different memory types and chips?
yes
you can compare it with pc memory vs. pc harddisk
hhmm is that a new spam tactics ?
to post spam inside threads to make deleting harder?
Fair enough...thanks...shame it turned out harder then I though
.....that is a very interesting spam tatic...never seen that...*wonders off to find an mod*
yes it's harder after wm5 but with buzzdev.net's chipondisk program it handle it
not sure how many devices it support as it was mainly made for old devices
where they only have very limited storage space
and "alot" of memory because they were made for the old wm2003 and prev
memory deviding system
It just seems to me that, while yes I like storage but you give us a SD slot so why make only 47mb Program and 162mb Storage....
I've searched in the forum but i cannot find anything about that.
Which are the main differences in having a program integrated in a ROM or to install it in the main memory after the ROM has been flashed in the device??
I mean, are there any benefits in integrating a software in ROM in terms of speed, memory footprint...or any others?
Thanks
integrated don't take up storage space
integrated can't be upgraded to a newer version without getting a new rom
application memory foodprint is the same
So with latest device that have a good amount of internal storage the integration doesn't have real benefits...
The possibility to upgrade a program to a newer version for me is more important than some more MB of free space in the internal storage...
Thanks for the explanation
it saves time installing random apps after flashing if they are already there for you.. certain usefull ones like total commander and such.. Ditto on the not being able to upgrade, some program are able to, but most arent, you just get errors. Someone here on XDA made an app that allows you to store cabs in a specific folder on a storage card and on first boot those cabs will be installed, thus making the issue of having your favorite preinstalled apps less of a hassle after a reflashing, or moving to a new device.
hey, i'm running wm6 on my uni and get around 22mb on boot. I'm sure others would be getting as much or even less if they're running 6.1 or 6.5
i mostly use Palringo and ANB viewer together (as opera mobile won't work and i need tabbed browser) and the ram level drops to as low as 2mb if i even open total commander or picture viewer.
this is painful as i would love to use my uni for videos / audio but that is virtually impossible with all the above apps.
Now, since the total memory shows 48.90 mb, i was thinking is there a way to 'reduce' the mem used by the baseband? if we can somehow increase the available ram to 30+, it would be very helpful.
today's softwares demand more ram and with devices now coming with 256mb or even 500+ram, this classic is quickly going under the sand...
I use my uni only for data so I for one won't mind it if the phone features are compromised for memory.
hoping for some good comments and ideas...
There are ROMs that will offer 30Mb or so on boot, just look around and find one. I think that having your RAM so drastically reduced by running next to nothing is caused by leak in the ROM you are using or programs running on the background that you are unaware of. I have a 64Mb Uni and could use Opera with pretty much any ROM and can't say I ever had the problem of running out of memory to the point of being unable to run programs or videos or music, basically what you describe is rendering your device practically useless. WM6.5 is resources hungry and I would not recommend it for a 64Mb device, but with 6.1 things should be running fine. So get a proper WM6.1, drop Palringo and ANB viewer and get Opera for tabbed browsing.
Another suggestion would be to upgrade your RAM to 128Mb.
Flash with another rom I can suggest you VnInt WM6.1 rom, after - install SKTools and optimize for more memory, look at the startup folder and delete all unwanted programs, remove most items of the today screen. I have 29 mb after restart and after 2-3-4 days of using the ram drops only to 22-24 mb
junooni said:
today's softwares demand more ram and with devices now coming with 256mb or even 500+ram, this classic is quickly going under the sand...
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Yes true most of the software today needs lots of ram and with devices with 256mb ram it's usual... and the highest ram i guess is in HTC LEO with 448mb...
Well if you use your phone only for data then you can try some vanilla roms... namely thingsonaspring's v1.1 ( around 30mb in boot wm 6.1) or even tomals vanilla roms (around 27~28mb on boot wm 6.1)... mine works fine with opera and total commander... so try to flash another rom...
i'm using wm65 without chome and titanium (HTC_UNIVERSAL-luca16thebig__WM6.5_v2.0.5_64mb_version_light___5.2.23016___build_23016)
still has around 27mb free ram and more then enough to runing palringo, mini opera, and others program at the same time.