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I use advanced task killer and minutes later I see MP3 Store, and Messages running. Before I saw a few others. Are they set to start running in memory for some reason? Not sure if they eat up much juice, but I wonder if I can make a list of certain ones and disable their start up somehow. Is there a task killter that blocks startups?
same here we need something to block these apps
Messages is required to recieve MMS (Even if you use handcent or chomp or something else as your main client). We tried removing that once in the hero forums and it caused ALL sorts of problems and force closes)
The mp3 store is usually ok to remove though.
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Messages is required to recieve MMS (Even if you use handcent or chomp or something else as your main client). We tried removing that once in the hero forums and it caused ALL sorts of problems and force closes)
The mp3 store is usually ok to remove though.
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Thanks codemonk,
Do you know that setting in advance task killer is that says "auto kill level"? It is set to disable now, but what does it do? Thanks.
jeffrimerman said:
Thanks codemonk,
Do you know that setting in advance task killer is that says "auto kill level"? It is set to disable now, but what does it do? Thanks.
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I'm not sure...I avoid task killers as a rule (I installed one earlier to test something for an earlier thread and uninstalled afterwards once I got my info).
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/ - This should provide some good info on it.
The better solution, especially for apps that you don't intend on using, is uninstalling the app (there's a whole thread talking about which ones are safe to remove).
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I'm not sure...I avoid task killers as a rule (I installed one earlier to test something for an earlier thread and uninstalled afterwards once I got my info).
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/ - This should provide some good info on it.
The better solution, especially for apps that you don't intend on using, is uninstalling the app (there's a whole thread talking about which ones are safe to remove).
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yeah, that is a great idea. I imagine if I wanted it back I could just install it again. Thanks Codemonk.
Why do you need those apps not running? Android will kill them if it needs more memory.
Why are people obsessed with killing stuff? It's not like your phone runs better with 192mb of free memory vs 163mb...
it actually does, as well as lets the battery last longer since it isnt using as much processing power
Nagrom Nniuq said:
Why do you need those apps not running? Android will kill them if it needs more memory.
Why are people obsessed with killing stuff? It's not like your phone runs better with 192mb of free memory vs 163mb...
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Let the phone run for a good 12 hours. I was down to 42MB free basically idling and only using Handcent. Killed a few tasks and back up to 175 and everything is snappy again.
I don't like having to use a task killer, I didn't have to with my N1.
maybe there will be an app like Scotty for windows 7. I check and a bunch of bloatware starts on it's own. It's all marketing bs. When there is a nice root stripped down, with all the nice stuff enabled I'll do that.
download startup auditor from the market. great little app to select and unselect which apps you want to load when the phone powers up. only costs $0.99 usd
pyr0path said:
download startup auditor from the market. great little app to select and unselect which apps you want to load when the phone powers up. only costs $0.99 usd
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So if I leave it to no apps, will it load up with 0 apps running? Will it also prevent apps from randomly starting after phone is already on? Sounds like a nice app.
Unless startup auditor disables the service there is a list of apps that will randomly start up at times. I went into the application settings and apps like MP3 store don't have an option to uninstall.
I have used task killer to kill all apps and within minutes some start again.
"thecodemonk" why do you not use a task killer. I have only had an Android phone about 24 hours now and got a lot to learn.
First thing being how to enable tethering.
I have mine set to "safe" and it auto closes things when screen goes black.
Make sure you "IGNORE" certain apps... like the clock or else your alarm wont work... I almost over slept
I have the following set to ignore:
Messages
Handcent
clock
gmail
Mort Music player
Fastbright
Check out the application "Autokiller." This comes with preset values (optimum, moderate, aggressive, etc.) so that apps will be killed off once your free memory drops below a certain point. This app works great, but it does REQUIRE root to function and must be rebooted to finish applying the settings. Also lists all apps, processes, and services which can be killed off manually as well.
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Check out the application "Autokiller." This comes with preset values (optimum, moderate, aggressive, etc.) so that apps will be killed off once your free memory drops below a certain point. This app works great, but it does REQUIRE root to function and must be rebooted to finish applying the settings. Also lists all apps, processes, and services which can be killed off manually as well.
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I've been trying to find AutoKiller, yet I can't find it in the market. Is it here on the forums?
Fixter said:
I've been trying to find AutoKiller, yet I can't find it in the market. Is it here on the forums?
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It is in market, search "autokiller". Requires root access, but I can confirm it is working fine.
Wanted to add that I am annoyed by programs that I never intend to use running in the background. From recovery I used Android Commander to quickly select and delete every .apk in /system/app that I never wanted to see again.
Helo guys saw this topic and was over at androidcentral and saw this article which talks about an app that would kill any app that autostarts.
won't let me post links as i'm a new user, but go to androidcentral and look for the article about the app autostarts or just google "autostarts"
using task panel to kill the "junk" like amazon and mp3 store- also any program that doesnt attach itself to things like facebook or messages - i use skyfire so i have set that to autokill but leave the "internet" running..
i also use this to switch between apps running.. having to hit back back back or even going to home then program list then finding it is a long process.. for example ...
i get a handcent message - go into the threaded sms- type and im done - holding down the home screen doesnt pop all the programs up - therfor i set task panel up to stay on my status bar and hit it then go to the program i want.
so i just reflashed my phone yet again trying out a new rom.
so i got it all setup, and first ting i did was goto the market to redownload all my apps. when i first opened the market, up top there were the three usual choices. apps, games, and downloads.
downlaods had listed all my apps that were previously installed, so i was like cool, no need for a nandroid backup. the only nandroid backup i have is for a 2.2 install, i didnt want to install that over a 2.1 update1 rom.
anyways, i started downloading all my apps that were listed then all the sudden the app store closed. now all i get at the top choices are apps games and sprint. theres a listing of BS apps in there, and when i push the menu key and click downloads, all thats there is what i had downloaded so far with seemingly no way to redownload the rest of the stuff that was listed.
where did my top bar downloads button go? i didnt accept an update to market or anything like that so how could it just change like that? how do i get the normal market back on my phone without the sprint crap??? sprint pisses me off some times.
sorry if this is some amatuer question, but a search of the forums didnt reveal too much to me, i dont know if this is a common "problem" (well, its a problem to me because i didnt authorize the changes to my system), or if this is just one of the quirks of android phones i am going to have to put up with.
Wrong section for this question. There is a thread in apps and theme section about this. Its an update from Sprint/Google just hit menu and choose Downloads from there.
right. but what your not getting is the list of all apps downloaded on my account dont show up once the sprint update installs. how do i prevent the update, or revert back? this is why i posted this, i need to know how to undo an update of an application, which as far as i see, this section is about apps and themes. just because i have 7 posts under my belt doesnt call for thread nazi behavior.
Is there a way to prevent specific apps from running at all, ever? I have a Samsung Captivate and I have several apps that are open in the background upon boot-up and at other random times. Now I know that this is fine normally on the Android OS, but I do not use these apps EVER as I have better alternatives from the Market.
They are the built in TouchWiz versions of
E-Mail (I use the GMail app instead)
Music Player (I use DoubleTwist instead)
Video Player (I use RockPlayer instead)
Messaging (I use Google Voice instead).
Since I absolutely never use these apps, and even have them hidden from my application list in LauncherPro, I would love to disable them from ever running again. Unfortunately I cannot uninstall them as doing so apparently causes instability with the built in Samsung TouchWiz UI.
As a side note, I know this is concerning a specific phone to a degree, but I think it's more fitting as a general Android OS question. If not, mods please move it to the Captivate Q&A section.
Uninstall them. That is, if you're phone is rooted. If it isn't, probably not a whole lot of easy fixes.
Just search XDA for uninstalling apps on/from system. There are several threads floating around on the subject.
GinoAMelone said:
Uninstall them. That is, if you're phone is rooted. If it isn't, probably not a whole lot of easy fixes.
Just search XDA for uninstalling apps on/from system. There are several threads floating around on the subject.
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Unfortunately I cannot uninstall them as doing so apparently causes instability with the built in Samsung TouchWiz UI.
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Some of the stock Samsung apps can be safely uninstalled. The ones I listed cannot be. That's why I'm trying to find a solution to prevent them from running.
glio1337 said:
Some of the stock Samsung apps can be safely uninstalled. The ones I listed cannot be. That's why I'm trying to find a solution to prevent them from running.
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have you tried looking for SGS tools on the market. I have used it to get rid of a bunch of apps that were stock. I dont think these will brick your phone if you get rid of the apps you discussed but you might want to do a back up just in case. The phone defenitely has to be rroted for this though
Try autostarts. Cheap paid app for what you are looking for.
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i don't know anything about your platform, but I can tell you there is little difference between uninstalling, and preventing an app from being triggered by an event. Auto starts will do just that stop event / semaphore queues from accessing the resources it needs. Your requesting app will spin ( wait in queue ). You can how ever judiciously use autostarts to prevent activation by specific events ( of those apps which you don't like) which may be acceptable to the operation of those requesting apps ( the ones which cause the instability you mentioned). Trial and error. But autostarts is kind, it keeps the name of the semaphore which you blocked with a line through it ( so you can undo ). Just saying..
Just want to say that I have been reading this forum for a while now and now that the ICS OTA update for the sensation came out I mustered up the balls to root it.
SO... I really hope this hasn't been asked already because I swear I searched and googled.
I followed the guide which outlined how to root using HTCDev and the AIO Toolkit. Everything went smoothly and I sat down to begin reinstalling my apps.
I opened up GPlay Store and the installed list was empty. However, if I search for an app that like Google Maps it lists it as already installed.
In the past when I have reset the phone and opened GPlay store it would tell me I need to update every piece of software. This time it didn't. Its not a huge deal because I know what apps I need to upload and which apps I will remove but I thought it was a little strange and have concerns about how it may affect the phone.
Aside from that, it works like it did before except I notice memory usage is much lower which I assume is tied to this "issue".
Is this something I should be concerned with or is this an intended result of the rooting process?
Thank You
Saml01 said:
Just want to say that I have been reading this forum for a while now and now that the ICS OTA update for the sensation came out I mustered up the balls to root it.
SO... I really hope this hasn't been asked already because I swear I searched and googled.
I followed the guide which outlined how to root using HTCDev and the AIO Toolkit. Everything went smoothly and I sat down to begin reinstalling my apps.
I opened up GPlay Store and the installed list was empty. However, if I search for an app that like Google Maps it lists it as already installed.
In the past when I have reset the phone and opened GPlay store it would tell me I need to update every piece of software. This time it didn't. Its not a huge deal because I know what apps I need to upload and which apps I will remove but I thought it was a little strange and have concerns about how it may affect the phone.
Aside from that, it works like it did before except I notice memory usage is much lower which I assume is tied to this "issue".
Is this something I should be concerned with or is this an intended result of the rooting process?
Thank You
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you can try to fix the market issue by
1. delete your google account
2. clear data of playstore ---(settings->apps->all apps->play store)
3. re create your account and now check the installed apps
I accidentally found the problem.
I remembered I activated 2 step verification for my google account 2 nights ago. When I got ready do the updates I did not perform 2 step verification process because I figured I would setup my email last. Well I did all the updates I needed manually and setup my email. Soon as I did it, all the apps were instantly detected and updated.
Thank you for the quick reply in any case though.
If you dont mind I have an off-topic question.
What is the best way to remove pre-installed apps?
A. Find an app that can remove in the Play Store.
B. Remove them through Terminal.
Seems with the terminal is basically RM two files and fuggedaboutit. Is the underlying process any different or cleaner with an app?
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If you dont mind I have an off-topic question.
What is the best way to remove pre-installed apps?
A. Find an app that can remove in the Play Store.
B. Remove them through Terminal.
Seems with the terminal is basically RM two files and fuggedaboutit. Is the underlying process any different or cleaner with an app?
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"A" is best option as it removes the corresponding libraries of the app too if it has ( i use titanium backup for this )
Also you can just use file explorer too to remove an app (root explorer or es file explorer)
I really appreciate your assistance. You helped me find the last piece of the puzzle. I have finally been able to get rid of half the non sense t-mobile installs on this phone. Also, this place is second to none when it comes to the quality of the guides and dearth of information available.
I browsed for the thread regarding what is safe to remove but it seems to be old.
In case anyone finds this thread I was able to safely remove:
Peep
Tmobile Mall
Tmobile TV
Slacker
Tmobile Face Chat
Flickr
NOVA
TeleNav GPS
Going to do another rom backup and kill off Google+, Google+ messenger, Play Movies, and Play Music.
Let me ask you another off-topic question.
Does it give me any benefit to S-Off my phone at this point in time?
Please confirm my thoughts:
1. In the future, if I keep this phone long enough, and I want to receive an OTA update from Tmo. I need to flash back to the stock recovery? This is assuming the phone is still S-On.
OR
2. I S-Off the phone and then flash a custom rom in the future.
OR
3. If I plan to receive an OTA update and the phone is S-OFF. Then I need to return it to S-ON as well as the previous steps.
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I did a couple of different searches on this board, looking for an alternative to gapps aka google apps. What viable alternatives to the google play store are there? google hangouts and google mail? I came across a thread discussion nogapps and the blank store that comes with it, but i'm not overly convinced that it lacks google's data mining processes.
I am not asking for sites that provide "pirated software" as I already know where to get that. I am asking for a "store" where I can search various phrases, and get a good return without those apps being relinked to google play store.
Have you tried the Amazon App Store? (Yes, they have Android apps)
Am I correct in assuming you are looking for a market that is completely separate from Google's servers? If privacy is your concern, you should know that all services that are provided for "free" employ some sort of data mining, because that is how they can afford to keep those services running. Since Google Play is the largest repository for Android apps, you would be hard pressed to find another service that hosts all of the same .apks, as that would seem redundant.
There simply is no viable alternative to the Play Store.
You can get alternatives, but they won't be nearly as good.
As for the rest of the gapps there are plenty of alternatives that are just fine or better.
Why are you so against gapps though? Washington doesn't care what apps you use.
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Even if the app doesn't mine your data, your ISP still does ...
plenty
well there are plenty stores available on internet. if you are on android 4.1 and rooted then you can install NOKIA app store. well its tricky to use, you can find a apk on xda. when you install it just install aptitode market from there, though aptitode can be installed alone too. you can find almost all apps. but still google holds android that will mean they will have the maximum apps and secure and most updated apps. even developers always put latest updated apps on play store first. well i used wildfire which has no gpu so cpu has to do work for most of operations which makes slow and to overcome the low space on that phone i sometime skip the gapps. it depends if you want surveillance free android then go for other market apps.:silly:..google even know when you are walking. i read this on xda somewhere.:laugh:
choice is yours.
100s of stores are available nowadays...
Gmail alternate is aosp email
Maps run without email account...
What else u need?
doctor_droid said:
What else u need?
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A way to synchronize (not backup/restore) my contacts and calendars on the Internet (Mega, Dropbox, whatever...) to be shared among other devices. This is bare minimum.
Then, if I could also synchronize (again, not backup/restore)some system stuff like WiFi passwords, call logs, SMS/MMS, instant messaging stuff and some application settings, this would be an extra great feature.
Can you do it without GApps? If you know how to, please share!
I don't know if this idea will benefit the app devs. Getting rid of the play store is like taking away one of their BIGGEST market place. What do you think?
People wouldnt feel the need to seek alternatives if Google wasnt so hardcore with it
Like dam, is it really even reasonable to keep location tracking in the background 24/7 and 15 different types of loggers at once? You'd think those morons would understand how large of a percentage of their would-be-users would actually use more of their services if they didnt chose to make it an all or nothing affair. I literally use only the playstore, and because of whats needed for that I go ahead and utilize the sync. I would definitely be open to gmail, g+, etc. if they werent so retarted with it. Rant over.
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don't know if this idea will benefit the app devs. Getting rid of the play store is like taking away one of their BIGGEST market place. What do you think?
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I think more about my privacy than the app business.
I wish in could use something like CM with some synchronizing mechanism.
Unluckily for me I have a non-dumb-phone, a netbook and a desktop PC.
I use all three for work and would need some synchonization mechanism for calls, SMS and other stuff.
Do you have a suggestion in this direction?
I have read the opening post. So please remember that.
However, this kind of question will always lead to warez sites.... As it already has. And will continue to. And another thread asking same thing will lead to warez app responses yet again.
Google play store and Amazon are really the only ones that are legit and most other sites offer cracked versions of paid apps.
Obviously a website dedicated to Development and developers will not approve of most of the recommendations here, which I have deleted.
Please don't open another one of these threads. There's been enough answers provided already. So this thread is closed.
Thanks for understanding,
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