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found app that keeps location private from google

found an app called Location Cache Map in market and it seems from what it says that it prevents maps and other apps from setting location data on phone and clears map cache while still allowing full use of GPS functions. i tried it and it worked, though it takes an extra couple seconds to lock on.
seems to work. you can see your stored location data with it even if you dont want to block location cache. interested in hearing from others on if this seems to really be working.

Any aftermarket Rom do this.
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sure if ya delete maps or something. mine always still saved location data on my phone. this lets you use the functions without phone saving cache data. ive never seen this function on any rom ive used. but if so id like to know how and save some time.

Has anyone else tried this?

Google has always kept this type of information---even before android. It's in their terms and conditions. Honestly, anyone who doesn't want to give Google access to this information, shouldn't use their phone.

aczarney said:
Google has always kept this type of information---even before android. It's in their terms and conditions. Honestly, anyone who doesn't want to give Google access to this information, shouldn't use their phone.
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You should, at minimum, have the choice to turn it off and delete the data that is stored on your phone readily.

Let's get real, corporations have too much freedom when it comes to using us as pawns. It should be an option to opt out period. I use google stuff cause I like the way it works, they don't need my location for that.
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Google's been collecting information rather openly for years. I just don't get why people are surprised they are collecting it with their phones too. It was never really a secret. There's no option to turn it off simply because that's the terms and conditions for use of the phone--that Google is entitled to access to your location as well as other information regarding how you use your phone. It honestly is like they're watching your every move. If you don't want access given to Google for this information, don't use the phone. That's literally your only option, and legally, Google is completely backed up on that. Now apple, that's a different story. But Google has been doing these things ever since Google as a company was created, its actually part of what has allowed them to grow. To know how their services are used and how their users function more or less.

I could really care less. Ask yourself. What is Google going to do with your information besides direct ads based on you interest. As long as Google execs aren't going to come track me down, I could really care less what data they collect. If your worried about people collecting your data then don't ever buy anything off the internet or for that matter, don't ever use a credit card to make purchases.

read this. its a rant but its how it REALLY is.
Grammer and spelling errors warning!!!
its doesnt matter what they are going to do with it. i have a right to privacy. the more you look into your specfic settings for your google and gmail account, the more you'll see that a lot of what they ask for they don't tell you. they allow you to turn it off.... if you even know how to where to find it, or if you even know they are collecting it.
they keep much more than just location and basic data for ads. im not going to get into all of it because theres too much. go look for yourself.
basically these days to have a phone thats fun (smartphone) you are forced to choose iOS or Android. Both are bull**** when it comes to privacy. THATS WHY THEY ARE DEFENDING THERE ASSES IN COURT!!! Just the fact that it has gotten to the point of major national news shows that it isn't just nothing. $500 million lawsuits aren't to be taken lightly.
And it's not just my privacy. Many MANY apps and services including googles require access to many things that the app has absolutely no reason to have. theres a dev in the market called FREE WING go download his persmissions apps named after specific permissions example: READ_PHONE_STATE, it shows you some of what that permission pulls from your phone such as your name, device ID, phone number, contacts, and more. SMS permission had not just the ability to "tell if i get a text" but has, and records, everything that was said, who sent it, and their numbers. or go get an app called "Denied permissions" it will show you how many each app has and break them down and explain a little of how they work. then use it to look at Google Docs app permissions. it shouldn't have the ability to change,delete, modify my account passwords, and that's just one of its BS permissions.
any facebook app that uses facebook to as an alternative log in gives that app by DEFAULT the ability to read my contacts, status, my FRIENDS status and apps they are using, where they also go, their photos, mine, and more (go to the apps privacy settings on facebook to find this stuff). my friends apps one THEIR phone have access to MY personal information, just because we are associated in facebook. NOT COOL! Facebook just told its game devs a couple days ago that they had like a week or something to change their games to prevent 3rd party apps that are associated with their games from accessing or keeping their patrons information while they play their games.
basically it comes down to my information can be accessed by places i didn't give the OK to or even have heard of. google shares information with apps. try reading the privacy polices for apps sometime (go read AppPack's - Highlight app and T-mobile Mall's app privacy policies). its like the fine print that no one ever reads in contracts or car advertisements. its there but no one takes the time.
google used to be a damn search engine. now they own android, google, Google Chrome OS (just came out), admob, and more. im ok with ads. and them having info i know i asked them to hold on to. I can't imagine what dirt someone could find on someone running for president in 10 years. dirty pics from when someone texted them when they were 25, 18, 16. or their online diary they kept for some reason. things they said on a forum, damn i couldn't imagine my old myspace stuff. some of that could get me in to trouble. i was a party animal at the time. ya see where i'm going? wouldn't have posted that stuff 10 years ago if i had known what i know now.
theres enough info of ours unintentionally online and accessible. go google yourself. they don't need my location to boot
don't believe any of this then take some time to read what you are saying ok to. some privacy policies are like when in those cartoons (devil and daniel mouse) the devil asks you to sign a contract in your own blood, but you forgot their was stuff written on the back page.

But you don't have a right to privacy.....you agreed to the terms and conditions of Google's use when you began using your phone. You signed those rights to privacy away when you signed that Google account into your phone (which, in fact is where the agreement to the terms and conditions lie). You installed Google docs and said "yeah, its okay if this app has access to these things." You update your Google apps every release of a new version. Apple is having issues with this yes, but that's because it was never previously a part of their terms, and they were doing it without customers knowledge. Google is not having issues, will not have issues, and presented all that information to you upfront when you signed up for your Google account, well within your buyer's remorse. Likewise, they do have an option to opt out of "Location services" during most device's initial setup procedures. I bet if anyone sued Google, they wouldn't even prepare a case. They'd refer the judge to the terms of your Google account or those permissions you were okay with.
Bottom line, Yes you have your right to privacy. But you can't give away those rights away to Google or Facebook or whoever then complain about it. Those terms and conditions aren't just there for show, they create them for these specific reasons. It'd be like If I gave you my social security number, checking account number, and address and then was shocked when my identity was stolen and went to file a police report. Working for T-Mobile, I hear these types of arguments on a daily basis, but let me just say it hasn't once changed a thing. Once you agree to them, you can't change your mind until the terms are changed and presented to you again.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. If you like privacy, DO NOT USE A SMARTPHONE. You see, I use a smartphone because I could give two ****s less what Google has access to in my phone. There are only 9 numbers I don't want anyone having access to and lets be honest. I highly doubt Google is stealing our SS #'s.

A link to google and it's work it does for the NSA and CIA. They are more than a company pushing Internet mobile ads. Do not do anything with your phone that you do not want recorded and handed over to the government.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/188581/the_googlensa_alliance_questions_and_answers.html
Remember what google and others did to to people yearning for freedom in China.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/15/technology/15cnd-internet.html

If you want Google to let you to remove apps from your market account tell them

I have seen a lot of people with the same issue I have. I download an app from the market, and it sucks so I uninstall... but now It's tied to my account forever.
When I flash, or get a new device, I like to use the web based market to re-install my apps. But I have pages and pages of apps I will never use again.
I proposed the following to Google to fix this.
If you agree that this is a good idea and would like to see this feature.. or if you have a better idea, please let Google know. They will only change this stuff if enough people request it to be changed.
I submitted a request here:
https://support.google.com/androidm...tact_type=market_phone_tablet_web&paginated=1
This was my request:
There needs to be a way to remove unused applications from our market accounts. I have many applications that I tried, dont like, and will never install again. Every time I get a new device or do a factory reset, I have to search through tons of unwanted applications just to find the apps I'd actually like to install. I understand giving the user the ability to delete apps that were paid for and the possibility of accidental deletions can become a support nightmare. To solve this I’d like to propose an “Archived Apps” section. Users can Archive applications they do not use. The application is then moved into a special Archive section where it can remain tied to the users account without being “In the Way”. Applications in the Archive section should have a “Restore” (button rather than install) that when pressed, would move it back to the users regular account and become active and installable again. When searching in the market mobile app, these apps will also show with the status Archived rather than purchased or installed. Selecting the app will give the option to “Restore” it to your active applications at which point it can be installed.

i actually have an open ticket with them regarding this problem
google tech support says it's a known issue, and they have no way to fix it yet.

AllGamer said:
i actually have an open ticket with them regarding this problem
google tech support says it's a known issue, and they have no way to fix it yet.
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Awesome!
It's a lot of work for them to fix, and my concern is that it wont be on the radar unless it's highly requested.

Same thing with Amazon's store. I chatted with a rep, and they said there was no way to remove them, but they are aware people are interested in doing this.

[Q] Using Google Maps without Google Account. (Android) Possible?

Hello,
I really like this forum, i read it a lot. I wanted to register a long time ago, but now i "have" to, because i have a question.
For several reasons i do not want a Google Account on my (Future) Samsung Galaxy Note 2. (Like the big screen)
1. I don't really use apps and the apps i use can be downloaded from their websites.
2. Privacy, Google has the worst privacy (policy) i've ever encountered. (-A company who illegally collect user data from Wi-Fi networks using Google streetview cars can't be trusted ihmo. They also collect anonymous user data, but it still has a unique indentifier... etc etc.)
The question:
I read that some people couln't use Google Maps (With gps) when having no Google Account on their phone. (Jelly Bean and up. 4.1+)
So the question is, is this true? And if it is true, Could i use the mobile website version of Google Maps to navigate? (With GPS?)
I couldn't really find a clear answer, and i searched quite a lot.
Thanks,
Best regards,
John

If you're going to get the phone no matter what, might as well just try it and see.
Personally, I see Google as a business, not a charity - so I don't mind letting them collect data when I use their services - it's basically how I am paying them and lowing them to generate revenue to continue to operate and provide the services they do.
If you wish to avoid their services, why not look for a map/navigation app/service/device that has nothing to do with Google?
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Pennycake said:
If you're going to get the phone no matter what, might as well just try it and see.
Personally, I see Google as a business, not a charity - so I don't mind letting them collect data when I use their services - it's basically how I am paying them and lowing them to generate revenue to continue to operate and provide the services they do.
If you wish to avoid their services, why not look for a map/navigation app/service/device that has nothing to do with Google?
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Yes i thought about that, but i read from a individual that he couln't use gps on Google-Maps and a 3rd-party-map-app while having an Android without a google account. This was on Android 4.1.2. He was using CM. I heard others with succes, but these were older versions of Android.
But maybe it works in the Android browser> Google Maps Mobile. Thats also my question.

[Q] Google Now / Google Search alternative?

I'm using Cyanogenmod and trying to use as little Google services as possible for privacy reasons. Is there any good app / widget that's comparable to Google Now?
Also, i'm trying to find an app that can replace the phone search (the little Google search bar on top of each homescreen in Stock Android). Any good Apps for this?
Thanks a lot

You can try Hound though its in beta and currently only available in the US:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hound.android.app

Thanks! Looks interesting, but unfortunately they also sell every bit of information they collect (and with an app like this, it's everything you do on your phone) to anyone that pays for it, according to their privacy statement. They're exactly the same as Google Now in that respect. If someone knows a comparable app that respects privacy, please feel free to tell me about it!

Not sure if you can have a similar app without them selling something because Google search and Now use so much information that in order for a competitor to be as good it'll need as much, if not more, access to your info. Just my thoughts.
Sherpa might be an app to look at. Also Microsoft are working on one called "Torque" it seems.

Obviously, an app like Google Now needs all that information and access to work. What it doesn't need to do, is sell it all to anyone that pays for it, which is how Google makes their billions (and also how this Hound app works). I would gladly pay for an app that doesn't do that.
Will look into the two apps you've mentioned, thanks!

Any reports of Google services spying on non-Google apps?

Today I was on my Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact, reading Facebook (using the Android Facebook app).
I was reading a bicycle forum, and replied to a thread regarding a local landmark.
I decided to double-check I was getting the name right, so I went to the Google search widget, and started typing the name of the landmark. The landmark is called "Hawk Hill" - I typed "ha" and "Hawk Hill" popped up as the first suggestion.
Now, that seems way too damned coincidental for it not to have been Google services scanning what I type in other apps.
I've searched here for discussions on what kinds of spying Google does; I mean, I know they scan data in their own apps, examine my search history, look at what web sites I've visited, etc. I don't love that, but I can live with it.
However, Google spying on my Facebook app? Really? I thought that the terms of service don't allow Google services to spy on non-Google apps. I could believe that they might see what websites I visit, but on an SSL-encrypted connection, how could they be reading the data exchanged?
Has anyone been following what the current state of Google spying on user activity is, especially vis a vis "always on listening" on the mic, or spying on other apps data?
- Tim

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tbessie said:
Today I was on my Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact, reading Facebook (using the Android Facebook app).
I was reading a bicycle forum, and replied to a thread regarding a local landmark.
I decided to double-check I was getting the name right, so I went to the Google search widget, and started typing the name of the landmark. The landmark is called "Hawk Hill" - I typed "ha" and "Hawk Hill" popped up as the first suggestion.
Now, that seems way too damned coincidental for it not to have been Google services scanning what I type in other apps.
I've searched here for discussions on what kinds of spying Google does; I mean, I know they scan data in their own apps, examine my search history, look at what web sites I've visited, etc. I don't love that, but I can live with it.
However, Google spying on my Facebook app? Really? I thought that the terms of service don't allow Google services to spy on non-Google apps. I could believe that they might see what websites I visit, but on an SSL-encrypted connection, how could they be reading the data exchanged?
Has anyone been following what the current state of Google spying on user activity is, especially vis a vis "always on listening" on the mic, or spying on other apps data?
- Tim
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Lool that's the point of google company lol... get custom ROM and don't install gapps, lol even facebook is spying on your activities, even your personal data aka phonebooks, messagess, etc... where did you live all these years lool...
Don't get me wrong but all that gapps and others social apps were make that way. that's the price of your digital life.. you become a product.
I'll never gonna use that [email protected], spyware, datamining, etc in my life.. get custom ROM and don't install [email protected] and you'll be safe.
Respect your privacy and your device.
Good luck and stay safe.

tbessie said:
Today I was on my Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact, reading Facebook (using the Android Facebook app).
I was reading a bicycle forum, and replied to a thread regarding a local landmark.
I decided to double-check I was getting the name right, so I went to the Google search widget, and started typing the name of the landmark. The landmark is called "Hawk Hill" - I typed "ha" and "Hawk Hill" popped up as the first suggestion.
Now, that seems way too damned coincidental for it not to have been Google services scanning what I type in other apps.
I've searched here for discussions on what kinds of spying Google does; I mean, I know they scan data in their own apps, examine my search history, look at what web sites I've visited, etc. I don't love that, but I can live with it.
However, Google spying on my Facebook app? Really? I thought that the terms of service don't allow Google services to spy on non-Google apps. I could believe that they might see what websites I visit, but on an SSL-encrypted connection, how could they be reading the data exchanged?
Has anyone been following what the current state of Google spying on user activity is, especially vis a vis "always on listening" on the mic, or spying on other apps data?
- Tim
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Hi Tim,
Let me start by saying that I am not in favor of all these practices and I do not like that these companies use our information however they please.
That said I will try to be as impartial as possible
"I've searched here for discussions on what kinds of spying Google does; I mean, I know they scan data in their own apps, examine my search history, look at what web sites I've visited, etc. I don't love that, but I can live with it."
You can look at myActivity (google it) and see all the data they have collected from you, you can delete it, pause the data collection (partially) or even have it deleted only after a few months.
They do everything you just said, and much more.
"However, Google spying on my Facebook app? Really? I thought that the terms of service don't allow Google services to spy on non-Google apps. I could believe that they might see what websites I visit, but on an SSL-encrypted connection, how could they be reading the data exchanged? "
Well technically all they did was read your clipboard, which if you're using gboard , they can.
Also note that Facebook will not work without Google's cloud services installed on the phone, so there is already a comunication overlay between the two services .
You can try to take some control back by using a different keyboard , using the web browser version of facebook and/or installing blokada wich will block not only ands but some of the more intrusive trackers they use .
if you have any questions or observations , please tell me!

FB is spyware... and malware.
I ditch it after a month over 12 years ago.

Wouldn't call any of this spying, just an auto/smart suggestion based on your browsing/typing history. Also doubt Google is reading everytging from your Facebook app to make these suggestions.
If you are using gboard, that most likely is how this suggestion was made. If you aren't using gboard then it would be a bigger mystery. Either change keyboard or look into keyboard settings and turn off suggestion/autocomplete/learning and similar "smart" settings.

Also, got rid of intrusive Facebook years ago...

drnightshadow said:
Lool that's the point of google company lol... get custom ROM and don't install gapps, lol even facebook is spying on your activities, even your personal data aka phonebooks, messagess, etc... where did you live all these years lool...
Don't get me wrong but all that gapps and others social apps were make that way. that's the price of your digital life.. you become a product.
I'll never gonna use that [email protected], spyware, datamining, etc in my life.. get custom ROM and don't install [email protected] and you'll be safe.
Respect your privacy and your device.
Good luck and stay safe.
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That's a lot of lols and lools.
You're not telling me anything I don't already know. If you'll reread my post, I was asking for info on the specifics of what types of spying are KNOWN and verified to be occurring - what is google spying on? What is the mechanism of action? Are they recording every keystroke, reading every encrypted stream, reading all app data, etc? What info is exchanged between Android/google and other apps? Etc.
I'm a software guy, and I was asking for TECHNICALLY SPECIFIC answers, as this is a technical forum. General warnings and hyperbole aren't helping. :-/

Disable Google Firebase... it inventories all kinds of personal files.

With regards to the question asked with this thread's title:
Google Play Services is a library ( read a collection of software routines accessed by Android programs - mainly GMS apps ) not an Android program , hence you must not fear you - or any app - will be spied on by Google Play Services.
FYI:
Google Play Services basically acts as a shim between the normal Android apps and the installed Android OS. Right now Google Play Services handles the Google Maps API, Google Account syncing, remote wipe, push messages, the Google Play Games back end, and many other duties.
If you ever question the power of Google Play Services, try disabling it. Nearly every Google App ( keyword: GMS ) on your device will break.
Don't confuse things!

jwoegerbauer said:
With regards to the question asked with this thread's title:
Google Play Services is a library ( read a collection of software routines accessed by Android programs - mainly GMS apps ) not an Android program , hence you must not fear you - or any app - will be spied on by Google Play Services.
FYI:
Google Play Services basically acts as a shim between the normal Android apps and the installed Android OS. Right now Google Play Services handles the Google Maps API, Google Account syncing, remote wipe, push messages, the Google Play Games back end, and many other duties.
If you ever question the power of Google Play Services, try disabling it. Nearly every Google App ( keyword: GMS ) on your device will break.
Don't confuse things!
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I normally run with it disabled; it saves time, trouble and battery (a fair amount too). Disabling it saves me from firewall blocking a bunch of apps; it's easier to toggle gps on/off when needed.
Keeps Find my Device from setting it's self as a System Administrator, which I really don't want running, ever. Kills gmaps too, yah.
Maps, location don't need to constantly be running in the background unless you need them to be running.
The only time disabling it is a pain is to access Playstore which requires a reboot with it enabled. I have only one app that requires constant Playstore connection to work, SD Maid Pro; it gets disabled anyway as I get tired of it constantly running in the background.
I flat out don't trust any Google product... as a result of Google's actions and history.