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I already have the HTC TP since almost 2 weeks and I'm quite happy with the HTC Touch pro so far .
However I have been a SONY Ericsson P Series user since SE ever came up with the P800 many years ago. After the P990i I thought I'd migrate to WM and I bought myself a Fujitsu Siemens T830 , I used it for a month and I realised that it's too difficult to use with one hand so I bought myself the new SE P1i by then.
After using the HTC Touch Pro for about 10 days, I still think my current Sony Eriscsson P1 is still much better when it comes to one hand operation and ease of executing things quicker than a WM based device.
Today I received a message from Clove.co.uk that they will be starting to ship the new awaited SE X1 on October 6th and asking me if I want one too..
So I was wondering if I should buy also the new SE X1 since it's a Sony Ericsson phone and this phone will supersede the SE P1i and I was hoping that they will somehow implemet the succesful points on the P1 into the X1.
Do you guys thing that X1 is a better phıne than the HTC Touch Pro and if yes why ? I compared the specs basically two phones have identical specs.
Which one would you buy ? Do you think that I should hang on to HTC TP until WM 7 is out ?
I'm open to suggestions
thanks
P.S. If I buy the SE X1 , I will give my TP to my wife . If I don't like the X1 she gets to keep the X1
Well, the Sony has most of what the HTC TP has (not sure about GSensor) but also has 800 X 480 pixels and a larger screen.
If I didn't already buy the HTC TP I would go for the Sony.
yeah if i end up not getting 3g on my TP then i will look to sell and get the X1 if it can.
topspeclt said:
Well, the Sony has most of what the HTC TP has (not sure about GSensor) but also has 800 X 480 pixels and a larger screen.
If I didn't already buy the HTC TP I would go for the Sony.
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Doesn't have a G-sensor, but it does have a 3.5mm headphone jack and a bigger screen... The specs look better (384MB RAM!), but the interface is a memory whore so the performance may not be so much better than the Touch Pro. Keyboard on the Touch Pro is better as well.
The sony is out next week! I just received an email from clove.com. I thought it was not due out this fast?!
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Doesn't have a G-sensor, but it does have a 3.5mm headphone jack and a bigger screen... The specs look better (384MB RAM!), but the interface is a memory whore so the performance may not be so much better than the Touch Pro. Keyboard on the Touch Pro is better as well.
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The X1 has a ATI Graphics Accelerator so everything sould be smooth - and it is if you check the youtube videos.
Damn. I only had my HTC Touch Pro for a week and now I need to sell!
The X1 is also much larger than the TP - this might be a major for some people.
Yea, been watching the videos. Its also a brick. Many metal parts although I hear its built real nice thou. Very sturdy... hmmmm
topspeclt said:
The X1 has a ATI Graphics Accelerator so everything sould be smooth - and it is if you check the youtube videos.
Damn. I only had my HTC Touch Pro for a week and now I need to sell!
The X1 is also much larger than the TP - this might be a major for some people.
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If you were correct I'd agree, but I just saw a video of a very recent version where they rotated on the panel interface, and the panels skipped and lagged quite a bit going from portrait to landscape... So no, it's not smooth. It's in retail packaging, which I thought was odd.
Edit: Here ya go, this was just posted 4 days ago.
http://miniurl.org/2qL
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Yea, been watching the videos. Its also a brick. Many metal parts although I hear its built real nice thou. Very sturdy... hmmmm
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That's one thing I love about it, I like heavy phones and I like metal. It just makes it feel more well-built, even if you know in your heart HTC had their hands on it.
Both Phones have Pro's compared to each other.
Rather than just ordering one, maybe I should test one X1 to decide.
But I heard WM 7.0 is on the way at 2009 , TP and X1 probably cam be rom updated ?
Don't forget: SE announced that this will be their last (WM?) phone. So I doubt that they will give much support in the future.
doublecheese said:
Both Phones have Pro's compared to each other.
Rather than just ordering one, maybe I should test one X1 to decide.
But I heard WM 7.0 is on the way at 2009 , TP and X1 probably cam be rom updated ?
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Nobody knows at this point, I'm assuming so based on the track record of Windows Mobile. It's expected to be late 2009 before the release, so I wouldn't worry about that just yet.
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Don't forget: SE announced that this will be their last (WM?) phone. So I doubt that they will give much support in the future.
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That's the great part, they won't give support to windows-mobile specific features, but the panel interface SDK could be universal. Could be... We'll see if they carry that on over to other devices.
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Don't forget: SE announced that this will be their last (WM?) phone. So I doubt that they will give much support in the future.
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I thought I heard it the other way around as UIQ is having hard time and SE will not continue on P series because of that.....
@Black93300ZX
So let's put WM 7.0 aside for the time being, thanks
I was in doubt too, but eventually went for the TP because even tough a bigger screen is nice, it will probably be incompatible with some apps, i also thought it would be more expensive (it is) and i don't like the panel interface that much.
Another big thing is the community: i guess there is a lot more support for for the Diamond/TP on this forum then for the X1.
Was also doubting between there two. Went for the pro since it was out earlier, I thought the X1 would be more expensive, I liked the looks of the pro more, odd screensize (incompatibilities?), and some more...
But now I'm doubting again to maybe go for the X1 afterall (and sell the pro). Main reasons being the average camera, perhaps SE can make something more out of it, the gps problems and the fact the keyboard reacts sluggish or not at all sometimes (mainly with wifi on).
But as long as no reviews are out, or the phone itself it's too early to make decisions...
Hi,
I might change to the X1, if it had GPS, but it is no option for me without internal GPS. Or am I wrong, does it have GPS?
S.
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Hi,
I probably would change to X1, if it had internal GPS. Or am I wrong does it have GPS?
S.
Yes it has a A-GPS , same as the Touch Pro.
I still can't decide if I should also buy the X1 ......or not ???
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P.S. If I buy the SE X1 , I will give my TP to my wife . If I don't like the X1 she gets to keep the X1
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Been using TP for 3-4 weeks now. Will look out for user experience for X1 (hopefully in Xda-developers too) instead of just reviews. If have good experience from users, will get one and give TP to me wife
Hi guys,
I have been offer to get one of the next PDAs as a present:
HTC Touch Pro
HTC Touch HD
HTC Touch Diamond
Sony Ericsson X1
Samsung i900 Omnia 8Gb.
I am a happy owner of a HTC Hermes (SPV M3100) and I love the keyboard, I can not live without one of them anymore. I do also have a personal BT GPS which I link to the PDA and I can use programs like TT7, etc.
I do not know which one of the above to get. Because my used-to-be-a-first-choice, the HTC Touch Pro, is not what I want. I have tried it for a time, and it has great stuff such as the 640x480 resolution screen, the camera, the aesthetic, etc. But the keyboard is soooo small my fingers haven't get used to it.
The Touch HD has great screen, but not keyboard
The Diamond is like the Touch PRO but without keyboard.
The Omnia specifications looks great.... 8Gbs, 5MP camera, long battery last (something the HTC TOUCH PRO does not have...)
and the X1 which has the keyboard, 400Mb of internal memory, huge long live battery, built in GPS, Nice Screen ( 800x480) and a 3.15 MP camera.
Which one would you get?
Does anybody knows if you can flash the ROM of the non HTC ones?
Thank you very much.
Guillermo
i went from himalya and just gotten a x1
played with the diamond but felt the screen were kinda small
and saw x1 panels and pref'd it to flow
happy enough with it but
the non std screen mean that
many games act up there is a tool
which make the screen act as vga
which helps but just dont use the rest
x1 is build by htc so it's prob closer then samsung but
no device can use roms from other devices not
even 2 htc devices
so as i see it this forum will help more for htc devices then x1
and even less for samsung apart from the general forum
havent played with touch pro so cant comment on if it's keyboard is worse
then x1 but reviews and people here say worse
i suspect that there will come a touch hd pro with a keyboard next year
like the touch pro came a bit later then diamond
I´m totally agree with Rudegar:
"i suspect that there will come a touch hd pro with a keyboard next year
like the touch pro came a bit later then diamond"
I was just about to buy the HD, but as a happy Universal user keyboard is a must for me, so I decided to wait for the possible HD touch Pro that I´m also sure it will come sooner or later.
Also have in mind that if you buy a non HTC device you will not have the fantastic support of this site!
Good luck on your desicion!
Hi,
my problem is that I have to choose it right now, and I can not wait for the HTC HD PRO, if anyone where coming. So What I have seen is you give votes for the X1.
I would love someone else give me more advice,
so please, feel free to give me your opinion.
Cheers,
Guillermo
Getting me the OMNIA - it just has everything - well, except for the hardware keyboard! It is a power device with excellent specification. The fear about the non-standard screen resolution, well, is not a big deal since the OMNIA is a WM phone as all the others, so, tweaking it is not harder than tweaking others.
I sure would have loved that the OMNIA would have had a hw keyboard, but heh, I learnt that the on screen keyboard of the device works as good as a real keyboard. And in case I really would appreciate a hw keyboard one day, there are bluetooth keyboards available.
Review: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i900_omnia-review-267.php
I would say,
Touch HD it's screen is amazing
hittori said:
Hi,
my problem is that I have to choose it right now, and I can not wait for the HTC HD PRO, if anyone where coming. So What I have seen is you give votes for the X1.
I would love someone else give me more advice,
so please, feel free to give me your opinion.
Cheers,
Guillermo
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In that case, I would recommend HD if you don´t mind not having keyboard and X1 in case you need kb
Good luck,
Hi everyone,
I'm in a bit of a dilemna here - my Prophet just died due to massive ice tea overdose, so I'm in the market for a new phone. And as luck would have it, my O2 contract is coming up for renewal next month.
I can get an Xperia X1 for 220 Euros and a Touch HD for 250. What should I go for?
I like the idea of a hardware QWERTY keyboard and the D-Pad, but the HD's screen is just so sexy. Are there any other reasons to go for the HD? How does the battery life compare between the two? Sound quality?
bemymonkey said:
Hi everyone,
I'm in a bit of a dilemna here - my Prophet just died due to massive ice tea overdose, so I'm in the market for a new phone. And as luck would have it, my O2 contract is coming up for renewal next month.
I can get an Xperia X1 for 220 Euros and a Touch HD for 250. What should I go for?
I like the idea of a hardware QWERTY keyboard and the D-Pad, but the HD's screen is just so sexy. Are there any other reasons to go for the HD? How does the battery life compare between the two? Sound quality?
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Here you can see what people want most:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362
They are so different, keyboard, screen, etc
Really will depend on what you need from a device
If they were the only 2 devices in the world I would choose the Xperia just because the KB...
Might be picking up an Xperia myself tomorrow but am worried about the build quality with the massive problem of the casing cracking and coming apart.
Hopefully it won't affect the latest ones.
Thanks for the insight orb3000.
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Might be picking up an Xperia myself tomorrow but am worried about the build quality with the massive problem of the casing cracking and coming apart.
Hopefully it won't affect the latest ones.
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:O:O:O
Linky?
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:O:O:O
Linky?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447211
I don't see any 2009 phones coming up on that at the moment so fingers crossed they have sorted it out.
Damn, that sucks. Sort of tilting me back toward the touch HD - how're the SIP options on there? Two-thumb-typing possible?
I use both thumbs to type on my Touch HD all the time, and it's pretty good. It takes a bit of getting used to - it is much easier to type the wrong letter.
Some apps have been developed to arrange an alternative keyboard (see "FingerKeyboard" in Blackstone -> Themes, Apps, Software forum), but they do end up taking about half the screen. So you Xperia gets the bigger screen when you type.
BUT! The Touch HD's video playback (once you get it working...with the help of SDTuneUp, CorePlayer) is amazing. 3.8" of screen awesomeness.
Battery-life wise...I don't use wifi that often, and I'm holiday-ing in Hong Kong at the moment, so no 3G roaming. After about a day I'm down to around 70% if I don't use it much. Use it a lot (wifi/3G on most of the time) and you'll drain it in a day, easy. But that's the story for most devices. The easiest way around that is to find some replacement batteries no eBay and the like...they are pretty cheap.
In my opinion, if you are going to do a lot of typing, the Xperia appears the way to go (you can even get TF3D for it). But if you're looking for that multimedia-kick, then the Blackstone is the only drug for you =]
Hope that helps a little.
Hmmm, that's the thing - all I really need is a PDA phone that doubles as an MP3 player and ebook reader. I would've gone with a Touch Diamond, but there's a huge thread about it having problems with audio lag - that would pretty much screw it in terms of using it as an MP3 player...
Do the HD and X1 have any problems like that? Skipping/lag/pausing during audio or video playback?
How about build quality on the HD? No problems with cracking, creaking or anything like that?
Thanks a lot for your help so far, everyone
hmm...
....if you're not going to do much typing or watching of videos..
if you don't mind waiting for a bit, then maybe the Touch Diamond 2 is the phone for you.
It's basically a 3.2" version of the Blackstone, complete with WVGA res. The processor, ram are all the same and has an improved TF3D.
As far as I can tell, Blackstone doesn't have many issues with audio playback. The music app is pretty good, and you even have an "Audio Booster" app from HTC that will give you Equaliser control plus some preset Equalisers.
Touch Diamond 2 (and Touch Pro 2) are going to come out some time in Q2 (probably late Q2)...so that's a 3 month window where these phones could come out. They might be good for you. Also cheaper....probably.
I've been doing some reading in the Diamond/Touch Pro/Xperia and HD forums, and it seems that they all have the problem with skipping.
Is there an older HTC device that's usable as an MP3 player (i.e. no skipping, good quality, low noise floor) and has HSDPA? Preferably with a 3.5mm jack, but ExtUSB is OK too...
i got an x1 and love it. had the choice of htc hd and bb storm when i bought it in november and still very happy with my choice
No cracking casing or skipping MP3s?
the silver x1's seem to crack, my black one is knocked about everyday at work and theres no cracks only a bit of paint coming off the metal battery cover edge,
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No cracking casing or skipping MP3s?
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yes had to send it back as it did get cracks, but sony replaced it and had no probs with this handset, which is silver.
never had and skipping in mp3's
i was hesitant on getting the touch HD because of lack of a hardware input method, since i was so used to my touch dual, orange dint carry the xperia so i dint really have much of a choice. im extremely happy with it though, because the screen is so large, the on screen inputs are actually quite comfortable to use, while i cant type as fast as my touch dual, i can type almost as fast.
my friend is having lots of issues with his xperia, cracking case, sluggish performance, poor battery life.
the HD actually has very very surpisingly good battery life. thers a good review at this site if u wanna check it out:
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-touch-hd-en.shtml
Hello, guys ...I was looking for a site with dedicated members well grounded in technology, and pda areas and finally found it.
Just registered here and have my first question. Im getting a smartphone. Suppose I prefer WM based pda-s, no matter the fact I have never had one before. So now I'm wondering which one to buy. The choice is between these two : HTC Touch Diamond 2 and SE Xperia X1. I don't know any of what their hardware parameters mean (processor, memory and etc.) or which one is better. That is the reason why I'm posting this now. To myself I suppose it would be better to have a hardware buttons, D-pad and qwerty keyboard like X1's but really like the more fingertip oriented TouchFlo on HTC. Well, I know from the forum that I can have it eventually on SE X1, so the SE Panels are already taking advantage over HTC. However, X1`s camera performance is way too low and it doesn't have an accelerometer which I think would be rather useful despite the fact the screen rotates when the slider is opened. Have read many reviews and watched many videos with both devices but still can`t decide which one to take. I need my future phone for surfing the internet, skype (mostly using wifi), music, videos and also entertainment like gaming cause everybody get bored sometimes and it's good to have some cool and glossy games... Well. that's from me so I'll be really thankful if you share your opinion and give me a piece of advise.
P.M. - My apologies if I've made some mistakes in the text but English is not my native language...
Welcome to the forum
I really don´t like the design of Xperia at all. I would choose it just because the keyboard
Hi, check out the Diamond 2 section of this forum for more info...
Check out Diamond 2 Spec, you should be impressed
You should ask yourself if you need/want a keyboard on your phone or not...
I would say buy the Xperia and flash a ROM with Manila on it, this is the fingerfriendly software of the diamond 2.
How about Touch Pro 2?
Well, the more I read, the less I know which to take. The question really is do I need a hardware keyboard and its answer maybe is "yes".
About the touch pro 2...I have taken it into consideration but Im sure it going to be pretty expensive when it pops up. In addition it's kinda of bulky and bigger than the X1 and even heavier according to the official info on it. I'll still continue to look around and keep an eye on this forum and the sections about D2 and X1 and have my decision in the very last moment - I'm getting one of them at the end of the next month so I still have some time to think about that. Yet, I suppose X1 would be my new future buddy Thanks to all of you
dont buy X1, coz its kinda poor built and laggy, i have a good experience in wm, and thus far after using X1, diamond, wizard, touch, omnia. I find Omnia to be the best, fastest, and fully working it has all the decent features and its 5 megapixel camera with flash actually works, but it doesnt have support on this site. I will recommend you to see several other brands other than HTC before zeroing on any device.
Hi all,
I now own a LG Viewty but it's getting on my nerves (slow, not completely customisable, not a lot of full screen games, apps)
So I decided to buy a new phone, now I have to choose between the Diamond or the Xperia.
Which one do you recommed? Pros and cons?
Best regards,
Martijn
i own both and i'll gladly do a two for one deal for you... both are 850Mhz 3G compatible!
So which one do you prefer?
Or do you wanna sale them both?
But I already have an offer from 125 euros for the HTC and the Sony Ericsson would cost me about 150/200 so which one should I choose?
Thanks!
both are just as crap as each other...well thats in my opinion...
Oke, well that helps..
But could you tell me why they are so crap, and maybe recom me another phone instead? Would be really helpfull!
Thanks!
wait for a new phone! thats what i say, im not even looking at the TP2 and diaond 2. they dont provide much of a transition for me.
Well oké, thanks!
But if you had to decide between the HTC Touch Diamond and the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1, which one would be your choise and why.
My budget is limited and I have never had a WM phone before so I'm sure it will take a long time before I am even able to use all the functions!
If you text/type at all get the Xperia. The Diamond's on screen keyboard is lacking. I found it too difficult to even enter basic text with it compared to my Fuze (touch pro) or my iphone. I never tried an Xperia but all WM HTC phones are pretty much the same.
If you have never used a WM phone before, I suggest you try one out for as long as you can before buying one. There are many things I like about WM and just as many things that annoy me. My biggest complaint is that no matter what rom I flashed, it was always sluggish.
Is a Touch Pro an option? It should be cheaper to buy used and I felt my Fuze was the best WM phone I had ever used. But unfortunately not good enough to entice me to keep it and renew a 2 year contract with AT&T.
i spent quite some time on both the iphone and touch diamond before i bought myself a phone, my current phone is the xperia and i love it...trust me, the photos online u see about the xperia is nothing close to the actual thing, since i upgraded to the latest rom few days ago, i never experienced any crashes, if you are going to buy, buy a new one and make sure u care it, the black battery cover can be easily scratched (i just purchased one online)
right now im selling my black xperia, had enough of it, i want the silver one now
Thanks all!
Still don't know which one it's gonna be, the HTC is thinner and cheaper...
But the Xperia has a querty keyboard, but is more expensive and doesn't have the TouchFlo interface (even though I know there is a hack for it..)
My choise is going to the HTC, it has more mods and stuff, and a G-sensor and they still taking care of the mobile (new ROM's and stuff)
HTC +
- Cheaper.
- More mods, games, apps.
- good support.
- TouchFlo interface (love it!)
HTC -
- Lagging keyboard (jeffla).
- Smaller screen.
SE Xperia +
- Querty keyboard
- Easy to use Panels
- Good camera
- Bigger screen
SE Xperia -
- Thicker, heavier
- Less mods, games, apps
- No G-sensor
So I think I'm going for the HTC, because it's cheaper and some of the +/- you can see above!
All thanks for the replies!
i guess you like to scroll right, left, up, and down alot!
sony x1 got WVGA, 800x480!
"see more, scroll less is always better!" -netboy (aks netnerd). haha
netnerd said:
i guess you like to scroll right, left, up, and down alot!
sony x1 got WVGA, 800x480!
"see more, scroll less is always better!" -netboy (aks netnerd). haha
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well, that's true for sure, but I'm not gonna use it for internet a lot, don't have unlimited use of internet, only at home but then I have a computer too..
I'm mostly gonna use the phone, to text, phone, play some fun games, and mod it a bit, and listen to some music... (speaker)
So basisically what I want is a phone that:
Has quite a good speaker.
Is fast.
Is moddable.
Has touchscreen.
Has a lot of apps, mods, games
And to my opinion the HTC has most of it! (or everything for me)
FWIW the Xperia is an HTC phone as well. But if you really like the Touch Diamond but want a keyboard get the Touch Pro. It is simply a Diamond with a Keyboard.
How about an Omnia?
If you have the budget, do go for the TD2 - much more usable with the bigger screen.
yes out of the two you picked the better device...