Samsung Saga RAM question - General Questions and Answers

I have posted this on 3 other forums and haven't gotten any responses so I'm hoping someone can help me.
On Verizon's website, the Samsung Saga is listed as having 256mb RAM and 128mb ROM. When I go into the memory setting on my phone, it says the storage is 112.05 which is fine since it's never supposed to be exact, but the program says the total is 83.53, in use is 37.02, and free is 46.51. 83mb of RAM is waaaaay off from the supposed 256. Am I missing something?

its a typo on the VZW site. its RAM is 128

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Total RAM not 768mb

So I went into "Running Services" under Settings --> Applications, and I found numbers that didn't quite add up.
Other: 124MB in 4
Avail: 220MB+170 in 44
What does this mean? I understand not having the FULL 768 available, just like storage cards don't really access all 32gb, but this number seems far more off than expected. Is this normal?
My gut says that it is reporting the RAM availible after the CORE system usage. So 768 less what the system uses gives you the total you are seeing.
I could be wrong, but that's my 2 cents.
Haven't seen any Android devices report proper memory.. its gotta be after core services.. I can get my available memory up to 430 meg or so.. so it's definately much higher than 512mb found in most phones.
Only see about 330meg free on my Galaxy Tab which has 512mb.
SuperFly03 said:
My gut says that it is reporting the RAM availible after the CORE system usage. So 768 less what the system uses gives you the total you are seeing.
I could be wrong, but that's my 2 cents.
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Well that could very well be true... that just means SENSE and Bloat are really chewing up RAM... oh well. Root will be here before we even know it..

Amount of RAM

Everything I have seen on the internet (including HTC's own specs page) shows the EVO SHift having 512 MB of RAM. However, it seems as if my system only has 368 MB (as detected by V6 Supercharger and a couple hardware info apps I downloaded from the market). Does anybody know why this would be the case? My phone is newer (just got it a little over a month ago). Could HTC have lessened the amount of RAM in the new Shifts?
Also, I am running MikShifted-G v1.6 if that makes any difference.
Mine says I have 367,haha, i believe it might only show total available after all the system android stuff... I am probally wrong because I have AOSP which is so much smaller and less bloated that your sense and i have less.. Haha.. But idk... Just speculation
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mine shows,
internal 452/321 free
rom 410/91.9 free
This might help explain things better
]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904023[/URL]
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Thanks for the link, but I'm just talking about total RAM, not amount free. Everything indicates I have 368 MB of RAM (not internal storage or ROM or anything, but actual RAM). The Evo Shift supposedly has 512 MB, but I know the HTC Merge has 368 MB, so I was wondering if they lowered the RAM on the newer Shifts.
To check the RAM, download the app Android System Info. It is not Internal Memory, but RAM. Mine says Max 368 MB.
My mistake
trsix said:
Has anyone added more ram? Ive seen 1 gig sticks for$38. I might have to try if noone else has. Curious if it might speed the shift up.?
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They're talking about internal memory on the phone. Are you talking about an sdcard?
Its possible the gpu has an amount dedicated to it that will not be shown. Sort of like checking the ram on a laptop will show less than the stated specs

[Q] Phone specs??

Ok so i was just curious to see what the hardware specs on my phone were so i went to google and searched. Found a bunch of sites saying that the phones specs are 3 gigs memory internal and 768 of ram.
Now when i look at my phone in the settings it say that i only got 1.13 gigs or internal memory and 614 of ram???? Im just confused as to why it would say that and not what every one else listed online.??
Thanks in advance for any help.
See:
http://tjworld.net/wiki/Android/HTC/EMMC/UnderstandingUserCapacity
The phone has to take up something, doesn't that make sense?
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Interesting bug....involving the RAM

I didn't notice this in my first 16GB Tab, but on the 32GB tab, if I open the Task Manager through the minibar, it shows 775 MB total ram I know we are supposed to have 1GB ram, so I figure the 225MB missing is due to god knows what, that's not an issue.
If you go to Settings, Applications, Running Applications, it shows you have only 512 MB ram......the real question is, which one is it?
I also noticed that in the 16gb, but ignored it since the usage of ram in the ram manager exceeds 512mb. What's bothering me is why do the usage of ram differ between the ram manager and the one in running applications.
This was the first thing I noticed when I turned on my 7.0 plus for the first time when I got it on Christmas day. I just disregarded it but I am happy I am not the only one who is curious as to why it is saying 775 MB of ram.
If you take a look at /proc/meminfo you can see the kernel only recognizes 775 MB of memory. Guess that explains why it felt like apps were closing more frequently than on my 1 GB phone.
Question is, why are we getting less than memory than was advertised?
On mine:
Code:
# cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal: 794900 kB
We are getting all the memory "adverstised", but you have to remember that things like the kernel itself and certain other things take memory before hand. The same thing happens on android phones.
Well wouldn't that still show it as being "used" so to speak out of the total 1GB or 1024 MB? Or does the kernal just allocate itself and then let everything else take over from there?
Zadeis said:
Well wouldn't that still show it as being "used" so to speak out of the total 1GB or 1024 MB? Or does the kernal just allocate itself and then let everything else take over from there?
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I honestly don't remember. I wouldn't be concerned, however, about the lower number. It's perfectly normal on the few android devices I have.
garyd9 said:
I honestly don't remember. I wouldn't be concerned, however, about the lower number. It's perfectly normal on the few android devices I have.
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could it be that some of the ram preserved for the GPU?
dewadewi said:
could it be that some of the ram preserved for the GPU?
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Ah... Never thought of that, but at the same time (IMHO) I think it's unlikely it would use THAT much.
Though I guess if other android devices do it according to garyd it's nothing we should worry about.
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could it be that some of the ram preserved for the GPU?
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I believe it's RAM reserved for GPU and a few other things, like the Samsung MFC and camera interface.
On Captivate, some of the "speedmod" kernels changed the reserved memory sizes to free up user RAM - but often reducing the reserved memory can break stuff. (For example, trying to port those changes to Infuse caused the camera to stop working, along with video decoding acceleration.)
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Well wouldn't that still show it as being "used" so to speak out of the total 1GB or 1024 MB? Or does the kernal just allocate itself and then let everything else take over from there?
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Keep in mind this is the Linux kernel plus android.
In this case the system shows how much memory is available after the Linux kernel and android overlay are loaded. the galaxy 7 plus has 1GB of ram.
Now if this was straight Linux without android you would see the full amount of ram listed.

[Q] Inbuild Memory

Hi,
I recently purchased Samsung Galaxy SII Plus. As per the site, it comes with 8GB inbuilt memory. When I received the phone, it shows only 3.9 GB total space and 3.56 GB space available. When I contacted the seller, they told me that its Android system which is occupying the remaining space. I am not aware if this is the right reason. Does anyone know about it?
It's normal... All Android OEMs lie about the storage space.
For example the HTC One S 16GB comes with 9.3GB which seems a lot more like 8GB to me.
cjhaveri79 said:
Hi,
I recently purchased Samsung Galaxy SII Plus. As per the site, it comes with 8GB inbuilt memory. When I received the phone, it shows only 3.9 GB total space and 3.56 GB space available. When I contacted the seller, they told me that its Android system which is occupying the remaining space. I am not aware if this is the right reason. Does anyone know about it?
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It's a pisstake but it's true. I really hope advertising odes change to prevent this.
Surface pro has a similar problem
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Yeah, I thought it meant 8 GB available to user too, not 8 GB in total including system files. Thanks to my SD card though, I still have 2.7 GB of internal memory free.
Why is the /cache partition 1 GB though, seems a little overkill?
its almost the same for all device(my old ace says it have 512mb,when only bout 180 is available to me). There are no other internal memory stuff inside your phone,so whatever system will definitely eat some of your internal memory.Even laptop manufacturer are the same(320gb only 280 available),what u expect them to say? Sigh,i dont understand why people only make a fuss bout it now,does everyone start using smartphone only after 2013?
Well people need more and more space andOS need more and more space and phone memory isn't increasing dramatically.
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