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The internal memory - how much is actually available?

I know that they are supposed to come with 4 gigs of memory. My phone its is telling me have have under a gig. Now, I haven't had out long and I only have a few apps. Could myes rooted rom take up all the available space? Or is there's another source? Thanks!
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rubyv said:
I know that they are supposed to come with 4 gigs of memory. My phone its is telling me have have under a gig. Now, I haven't had out long and I only have a few apps. Could myes rooted rom take up all the available space? Or is there's another source? Thanks!
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I think you're confusing internal vs SD card storage. My understanding is it's 1GB internal, and they ship with 8GB SD card (originally they were going to ship with 4GB SD so that's why there are some sites with bad specs out there).
I have a ton of apps installed and I still have half my total internal available.

I was told that the phone had four gbs internal in addition to the eight gig card.
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rubyv said:
I was told that the phone had four gbs internal in addition to the eight gig card.
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I believe you were misinformed. And I stand corrected, it's got 768mb internal, and 8GB flash storage.

Actually it does have 4gb of internal memory, but you can only use slightly over 1gb. This was the same issue with the G2.
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And 768 is the RAM
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droe411 said:
And 768 is the RAM
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I'm not sure this is accurate. What's on the 4gb ROM? Makes no sense to have 4GB of read-only memory on any device.
If the OS\support is generally under 300mb, and is housed within the 768mb, what takes up the 4GB ROM? That wouldn't make any sense. I know there was some bad info that went out when the phone first released.... I think this may have stemmed from that.

I know ot doesnt make sense bit thats what it is. Liok at all stat sheets for.the phone. There is a pile of memory that is rwad only holding a backup of some kind.
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The OS itself is stored in the 4 gig internal SD, and uses RAM out of the 768mb. Even though it has 4 gb of internal storage, the way its formatted only let's us use 2 gigs. its formatted for speed and stability rather than size, therefore we lose half of it, then the OS takes up almost a gig, so now were down to 1 gig of usable storage on the internal card, then we have the 8 gb external.

And I believe the 768 of RAM is for running processes, for multi-tasking.
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di11igaf said:
The OS itself is stored in the 4 gig internal SD, and uses RAM out of the 768mb. Even though it has 4 gb of internal storage, the way its formatted only let's us use 2 gigs. its formatted for speed and stability rather than size, therefore we lose half of it, then the OS takes up almost a gig, so now were down to 1 gig of usable storage on the internal card, then we have the 8 gb external.
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Sounds like the same engineers who designed the AT&T network had their hands involved in this phone's design process.
Let's put a 20 gallon gas tank on a car, but weld a divider down the middle so someone can only put 10 gallons of gas in it. LOL

There was the same issue withe the G2 when it came out. It confused the heck out of a lot of them.
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I'm still noy buyin it that there's a mystery 4GB in the phone.
Looking at the root system it's about 500mb, of which 300mb is free (for tasking), and then I have about 250mb of apps installed, which adds up too close to 768 for coincidence in my mind.
If there were a 4gb ROM floating around in there, it'd be absolutely useless. Obviously the OS isn't installed on it, since It's ROM (read ONLY), and apps don't use it as storage (read ONLY), and it's not used for multitasking space (read ONLY), so there's no logical explanation for it.
MY theory is originally the phone was going to ship with 4GB memory card, and they changed it to 8GB at the last minute.... and that was an artifact that got jumbled with the old specs.... because GSM Arena and AT&T both show 768RAM plus 8GB SD Card only.

bella92108 said:
I'm still noy buyin it that there's a mystery 4GB in the phone.
Looking at the root system it's about 500mb, of which 300mb is free (for tasking), and then I have about 250mb of apps installed, which adds up too close to 768 for coincidence in my mind.
If there were a 4gb ROM floating around in there, it'd be absolutely useless. Obviously the OS isn't installed on it, since It's ROM (read ONLY), and apps don't use it as storage (read ONLY), and it's not used for multitasking space (read ONLY), so there's no logical explanation for it.
MY theory is originally the phone was going to ship with 4GB memory card, and they changed it to 8GB at the last minute.... and that was an artifact that got jumbled with the old specs.... because GSM Arena and AT&T both show 768RAM plus 8GB SD Card only.
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GSMARENA Inspire 4G
gsmarena also states 4GB INTERNAL STORAGE, not ROM specifically.
From their site...
Internal 4 GB storage, 768 MB RAM
Card slot microSD, up to 32GB, 8GB included, buy memory

There is a thread in this forum with this issue questioned, and some guy emailed HTC. The answer we are telling you is the same they tell every one. This is not AT&T HTC phones do this, look at the G2 the Thunderbolt. It isn't a lie they are telling every one. That is what they use the memory for, some sort of back up(I don't know exactly what it is backing up). HTC does this with all the newer phones.....

Here is a good answer for this guys, we lose half the available space for speed and stability.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12111805&postcount=11

footbal9584 said:
Here is a good answer for this guys, we lose half the available space for speed and stability.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12111805&postcount=11
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I call shenanigans haha

Already many threads on the topic. Yes there is technically 4GB internal but only 1GB is user accessible. The other 3GB is reserved for the OS, ect...

Twenty4 said:
Already many threads on the topic. Yes there is technically 4GB internal but only 1GB is user accessible. The other 3GB is reserved for the OS, ect...
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If I can't use it or see it, it doesn't exist. ;-)

bella92108 said:
If I can't use it or see it, it doesn't exist. ;-)
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I agree, I just pretend it only came with one gig and honestly, with 93 apps (50 on Sdcard), I still have 650 mb left so it doesn't bother me too much.

[Q] Free Internal Memory on first boot?

I know it has 1GB Internal storage but how much of that is used by Android/Sense and how much is left for the user?
I have seen some reports that say that the Sensation actually has 4GB internal but only 1GB is user accessible. Does this mean that the other 3GB are used for OS/Sense and the user sees the full 1GB free on first boot?
TIA

Correct. The actual amount of available memory will be approximately 1.20 GB.

kgbkny said:
Correct. The actual amount of available memory will be approximately 1.20 GB.
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Thanks, I can live with 1GB as long as it's all for me and not also taken up by Android/Sense

What happens when the 1gb space runs out. Can I not install anymore apps? 1 gig is quite small if its only for apps.
I will be coming from an iPhone, so you can understand my memory question.
Thanks.

simacca said:
What happens when the 1gb space runs out. Can I not install anymore apps? 1 gig is quite small if its only for apps.
I will be coming from an iPhone, so you can understand my memory question.
Thanks.
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Even though the iPhone has 16/32 gigs of internal memory and all of that is technically available for apps/games, I HIGHLY doubt you are using anywhere close to a gig. Apps are VERY small, shockingly. Also most games which are the biggest apps you can get on Andriod install all the extras on your SD card and never make a footprint on the internal memory. Basically what I mean by this is, if you use 1 GIG for apps... you sir have WAY to many apps lol. I have about 70 apps (not including system apps) and I am only using 578MB of my 1.2 GB interal memory. Most of those apps I could easily uninstal as I seldom use them, but I dont feel like it lol

I have about 8 gigs worth of apps/games on my 16gb iPhone 4. Quite a few of the decent arcade games are about 400mb.
I dont think I have too many apps on my iPhone and I would of thought most iPhone users have much more than 1gb worth of apps on their phones. You can never have too many apps
Can you install more than 1gb of apps on the Samsung Galaxy S2's internal memory?
If so, then why cant we install to the memory card when we run out of internal memory?
Would make things so much easier. I'm hoping that this will not put me of the Sensation when I finally get my hands one one

All I can say to that is damn... that is a lot of freaking apps. I have what I feel is well more then enough games and apps on my phone and haven't hit a gig. I should ask my cousin how much he has on his iPhone. I could never have that much stuff on my phone. And yes you can install 90% of apps on your SD card as well so you should be fine if you do hit your 1 GIG. Mostly widgets are the only thing that can not be installed on the SD card

Well thats good to know. At least I wont be worrying so much about running out of memory.
I don't play with half of my apps regularly, but it's good to know that they are there if I get bored

simacca said:
I have about 8 gigs worth of apps/games on my 16gb iPhone 4. Quite a few of the decent arcade games are about 400mb.
I dont think I have too many apps on my iPhone and I would of thought most iPhone users have much more than 1gb worth of apps on their phones. You can never have too many apps
Can you install more than 1gb of apps on the Samsung Galaxy S2's internal memory?
If so, then why cant we install to the memory card when we run out of internal memory?
Would make things so much easier. I'm hoping that this will not put me of the Sensation when I finally get my hands one one
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Having an iPad and an iPod I can understand your thinking. But with android even the big apps store their data ie game sounds etc on the sd card and the initial app is really small. There is a thing called apps to sd where you can choose to have the apps on the sd. Also as long as the sensation gets rooted at some point correct me if I'm wrong but you should have no problem filling your sd card with whatever apps you want as google have opened the file size restrictions for apps for developers.

Internal memory 9gb

Hey guys, my brand new out of the box htc one x shows 9gb free storage.., do you guys have the same?
i understand with the software comes out to be about 13gb but 9gb? is there something wrong with mine?

dorksturhh said:
Hey guys, my brand new out of the box htc one x shows 9gb free storage.., do you guys have the same?
i understand with the software comes out to be about 13gb but 9gb? is there something wrong with mine?
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Normal.

stnguyen09 said:
Normal.
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thanks, but now i feel ripped off!
first i saw 32gb ads, then expects atleast 16gb, found out to be 9gb..

dorksturhh said:
thanks, but now i feel ripped off!
first i saw 32gb ads, then expects atleast 16gb, found out to be 9gb..
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It's 16gb total on the att version, international is 32. I believe it's about 2gb for apps and 5 for os and system junk that is allocated.

dorksturhh said:
thanks, but now i feel ripped off!
first i saw 32gb ads, then expects atleast 16gb, found out to be 9gb..
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32 is for the international HOX. You still have 16gb of internal memory, but obviously that's not all accessible, which should've been obvious from the get-go. The system takes up space and I believe 2gb is reserved for apps and there are other partitions too that take up space.

The One X does seem to allocate a lot more storage to the OS, Apps, and System than previous HTC Android phones.
My HOX shows 2.21 GB total internal storage and 9.93 GB phone storage. That adds up to 12.14 GB. That means the OS, Apps, and System take up almost 4 GB. My older HTC Inspire 4G used about half of that.
A 16 GB iPhone or iPad has about 14 GB useable. It really sounds like they have allocated some extra storage for future expansion on some of the partitions.

Titanium Backup shows:
System ROM: 1.05
Internal: 2.37
SD Card: 10.6
I'm not sure where the remaining 2GB are. Does Android have a swap partition?

The system ROM is in EEPROM storage and doesn't use the flash memory.

Why does my One S have much less space than advertised

I recently bought a One S and one thing that has really been bugging me is the fact that I have much les storage than advertised. It says that you get 16 GB, but the actual amount is 12.14, and
2.21 of that is internal memory so I only actually have 9.93 to store my media. Why is this? Also it says it should have 1 GB of RAM but task manager says I only have 650 MB.
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tjamzt said:
I recently bought a One S and one thing that has really been bugging me is the fact that I have much les storage than advertised. It says that you get 16 GB, but the actual amount is 12.14, and
2.21 of that is internal memory so I only actually have 9.93 to store my media. Why is this? Also it says it should have 1 GB of RAM but task manager says I only have 650 MB.
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16 GB storage is partitioned and some RAM is reserved for the system and the GPU.

tjamzt said:
I recently bought a One S and one thing that has really been bugging me is the fact that I have much les storage than advertised. It says that you get 16 GB, but the actual amount is 12.14, and
2.21 of that is internal memory so I only actually have 9.93 to store my media. Why is this? Also it says it should have 1 GB of RAM but task manager says I only have 650 MB.
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First off no hdd or flash memory is ever 100% as advertise because its been formatted to run. That's why there is only 12gb instead of 16gb. And that 2gb is the space dedicated to app installs. And the remainder is for you to do with however you please. Music, videos, extra game data (like many of gameloft games where you need to dl an extra 500 MB or so) or whatever you else you want to throw on other then an app install.
When you see an app in market and you download it and install it, it goes directly to that 2gb partition. If you download an app from a third party website it first goes to the 9gb space and once it installs it, it installs on the 2gb and all you need to do is delete the original dl .apk or keep it as a back up.
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The above answers covered the answer so no need to reiterate but I just want to opine that you should consider yourself lucky, HTC doesn't rape you like Motorola does. On the Razr and Bionic, they are advertised as 16gb internal but only 8 is accessible to the user. They allot 4gb for apps and 4 for the OS. Bonus for them is obviously expandable memory.
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System takes the resources
On many phones the preinstalled software takes a lot of space. I would recommend to install another ROM. I always do that to get rid of the software I don't need.

Ok. Thanks for the help. But what about the RAM? Shouldnt all of it be available?

tjamzt said:
Ok. Thanks for the help. But what about the RAM? Shouldnt all of it be available?
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As already said, some of the RAM is reserved for the system and GPU. For example my HD2 should have 576MB RAM but it only has 411/403 (depends on the ROM/Kernel I guess) because 128MB is for the GPU and the rest is used by the system. I never actually get that much free RAM (I never get more than 200MB free, and that's only on startup; normally I have around 130MB free) but at the same time it's never really been an issue.

Ok. I just though that everything was shown together because I always have 500 MB of RAM used even with all applications closed.

The phone will still reserve some RAM for itself, and that is not the best indicator of RAM that's actually in use.

HTC One S is a gorgeous piece of hardware. To bad they didn't add sd card support...
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My iPad is advertised 16 gb but its 13. Is the answers here applicable to that?

larsibsen said:
On many phones the preinstalled software takes a lot of space. I would recommend to install another ROM. I always do that to get rid of the software I don't need.
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System software installed on separate partition usually. So removing them will not add more space to the user data.
OptimusLove said:
My iPad is advertised 16 gb but its 13. Is the answers here applicable to that?
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Yes

Any drawbacks with the 16GB model?

Guys,
I'm looking to get a 10.1 Note to replace my TF201 32GB model.
Trouble is here in the UK the only configuration is the 16GB model.
As such I am concerned what with software ever growing at an alarming rate it won't take long before that internal memory is full.
Therefore, I'm coming to those who already have the 16GB model to ask "have any of you found any drawbacks with the 16GB Note 10.1"?

16GB = 11+GB in user available storage
Beards said:
Guys,
I'm looking to get a 10.1 Note to replace my TF201 32GB model.
Trouble is here in the UK the only configuration is the 16GB model.
As such I am concerned what with software ever growing at an alarming rate it won't take long before that internal memory is full.
Therefore, I'm coming to those who already have the 16GB model to ask "have any of you found any drawbacks with the 16GB Note 10.1"?
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I had a 16GB, and switched it out for 32GB within 30 days. I had no problems with it per se-- it worked great.
But I was alarmed that Android OS and Samsung features/bloatware took up more than 25% of that 16GB! The available storage at first boot was 11+GB.
If you are comfortable with using a micro-SD card to hold your data and apps, then the 16GB is probably fine. I prefer to keep my apps installed on the device itself when possible for those occasions when I swap the SD card out for one reason or another. So for me, 32 GB (OK, 28+ available GB) was better than 11+GB.
JC

Nope, no problem whatsoever with the 16GB version. It'll be quite hard to fill up the space with apps, movies and music are more likely. But yes, you can just get microsd card if you need more than 16gb. I'm using one, SanDisk 32gb microsd that I got from amazon when they had a huge offer on it and it works great.
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Some Apps have an additional data storage of over a GB each.
Surely this data gets stored in the internal 16GB and not the external MicroSD card.
That being the case for storage of your Apps additional data files, the MicroSD doesn't come into play.
I use my MicroSD card purely for non data files, as in music, movies and work related files.
Therefore with only a portion available from the initial 16GB and with one App's data files of whom may require many hundreds of MB'S for storage it's not going to be long before the internal space is full.

Beards said:
Guys,
I'm looking to get a 10.1 Note to replace my TF201 32GB model.
Trouble is here in the UK the only configuration is the 16GB model.
As such I am concerned what with software ever growing at an alarming rate it won't take long before that internal memory is full.
Therefore, I'm coming to those who already have the 16GB model to ask "have any of you found any drawbacks with the 16GB Note 10.1"?
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None at all
And if you are worried about space see this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31774375&postcount=6
You can actually store anything on the microsd card, including ALL and any app data

hairdewx said:
None at all
And if you are worried about space see this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31774375&postcount=6
You can actually store anything on the microsd card, including ALL and any app data
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Thanks... but that does require root and it will be something I will not be able to carry out given my IT department will effectively be looking after my Tablet.

No drawbacks really other than the lower storage space. I had a white 16gb at first. After installing my apps and alot of games, I saw my storage space dwindling. So I returned it and got a 32gb. Now if you not a heavy gamer, you should be fine with 16gb. There are few apps that I know of that uses tons of storage space. Only one that comes to mind is. Google Earth. With microsd card, you could store all of your movies, pictures, music, etc... on it.
I wonder why they limiting the UK to only 16gb. Is there no other place that'll deliver a 32gb there?
If I remwber right, out of 16gb, only like 11-12 or so gb is available to use. The OS uses up remaining space. Games are the only ones that can easily be 1-2gb total. Good luck deciding. This Note 10.1 is an excellent device. My first Samsung tablet. More than exceeded my expectations. It works great out the box. Plus its specs is telly good also. Samsung quadcore Exynos4 and 2gb of ram & S-pen.

All good here! I'm not rooted, and with plenty of apps installed, 10.9 free space. I route all apps output, pic, vids etc to my extSdCard that I can.
That will save a tremendous amount of space.
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demandarin said:
No drawbacks really other than the lower storage space. I had a white 16gb at first. After installing my apps and alot of games, I saw my storage space dwindling. So I returned it and got a 32gb. Now if you not a heavy gamer, you should be fine with 16gb. There are few apps that I know of that uses tons of storage space. Only one that comes to mind is. Google Earth. With microsd card, you could store all of your movies, pictures, music, etc... on it.
I wonder why they limiting the UK to only 16gb. Is there no other place that'll deliver a 32gb there?
If I remwber right, out of 16gb, only like 11-12 or so gb is available to use. The OS uses up remaining space. Games are the only ones that can easily be 1-2gb total. Good luck deciding. This Note 10.1 is an excellent device. My first Samsung tablet. More than exceeded my expectations. It works great out the box. Plus its specs is telly good also. Samsung quadcore Exynos4 and 2gb of ram & S-pen.
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Hi demandarin, nice to catch you over here.
Even though I am not a heavy gamer I do have a number of business Apps that consume huge amounts of additional data which none can be moved to the external sd card unfortunately (and no I can not root ~ without having an argument with my IT team). So yes that 11GB remaining does concern me.
Samsung do this to us each time be it a phone or tablet.... They tend to put the 16GB models to SIM free, 32GB models to carriers and the 64GB just don't make it over here.
GalaxyBill said:
All good here! I'm not rooted, and with plenty of apps installed, 10.9 free space. I route all apps output, pic, vids etc to my extSdCard that I can.
That will save a tremendous amount of space.
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You are fortunate in being able to root.... I would jump to it were it not for my IT team.
That's the problem, I save my hospital some money by placing it under their control and this is one of the hurdles you come under.
As to caching, yes totally agree...... I do it all the time on my 16GB Nexus 7 which is always a pain in keeping those MB's free.

Beards said:
Trouble is here in the UK the only configuration is the 16GB model.
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32GB grey is coming... i have to wait another month for mine from very. though nearly 2 months after launch is a f*ck*ng joke
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I can not root ~ without having an argument with my IT team
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i take it you haven't actually asked them? just avoid asking the "we are the supreme race" thinking IT guy and you might be pleasantly surprised!!

dhd1802 said:
32GB grey is coming... i have to wait another month for mine from very. though nearly 2 months after launch is a f*ck*ng joke
i take it you haven't actually asked them? just avoid asking the "we are the supreme race" thinking IT guy and you might be pleasantly surprised!!
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I emailed Very just out of curiosity and they said October but to be frank I do not trust them.
Re my IT team, I don't need to speak with my hospital IT team. I know precisely what the situation is.

No issues here. Even with NOVA 3 and MC3 and a few smaller games I have roughly 4 GBs left.
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