I know that they are supposed to come with 4 gigs of memory. My phone its is telling me have have under a gig. Now, I haven't had out long and I only have a few apps. Could myes rooted rom take up all the available space? Or is there's another source? Thanks!
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I know that they are supposed to come with 4 gigs of memory. My phone its is telling me have have under a gig. Now, I haven't had out long and I only have a few apps. Could myes rooted rom take up all the available space? Or is there's another source? Thanks!
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I think you're confusing internal vs SD card storage. My understanding is it's 1GB internal, and they ship with 8GB SD card (originally they were going to ship with 4GB SD so that's why there are some sites with bad specs out there).
I have a ton of apps installed and I still have half my total internal available.
I was told that the phone had four gbs internal in addition to the eight gig card.
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I was told that the phone had four gbs internal in addition to the eight gig card.
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I believe you were misinformed. And I stand corrected, it's got 768mb internal, and 8GB flash storage.
Actually it does have 4gb of internal memory, but you can only use slightly over 1gb. This was the same issue with the G2.
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And 768 is the RAM
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And 768 is the RAM
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I'm not sure this is accurate. What's on the 4gb ROM? Makes no sense to have 4GB of read-only memory on any device.
If the OS\support is generally under 300mb, and is housed within the 768mb, what takes up the 4GB ROM? That wouldn't make any sense. I know there was some bad info that went out when the phone first released.... I think this may have stemmed from that.
I know ot doesnt make sense bit thats what it is. Liok at all stat sheets for.the phone. There is a pile of memory that is rwad only holding a backup of some kind.
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The OS itself is stored in the 4 gig internal SD, and uses RAM out of the 768mb. Even though it has 4 gb of internal storage, the way its formatted only let's us use 2 gigs. its formatted for speed and stability rather than size, therefore we lose half of it, then the OS takes up almost a gig, so now were down to 1 gig of usable storage on the internal card, then we have the 8 gb external.
And I believe the 768 of RAM is for running processes, for multi-tasking.
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The OS itself is stored in the 4 gig internal SD, and uses RAM out of the 768mb. Even though it has 4 gb of internal storage, the way its formatted only let's us use 2 gigs. its formatted for speed and stability rather than size, therefore we lose half of it, then the OS takes up almost a gig, so now were down to 1 gig of usable storage on the internal card, then we have the 8 gb external.
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Sounds like the same engineers who designed the AT&T network had their hands involved in this phone's design process.
Let's put a 20 gallon gas tank on a car, but weld a divider down the middle so someone can only put 10 gallons of gas in it. LOL
There was the same issue withe the G2 when it came out. It confused the heck out of a lot of them.
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I'm still noy buyin it that there's a mystery 4GB in the phone.
Looking at the root system it's about 500mb, of which 300mb is free (for tasking), and then I have about 250mb of apps installed, which adds up too close to 768 for coincidence in my mind.
If there were a 4gb ROM floating around in there, it'd be absolutely useless. Obviously the OS isn't installed on it, since It's ROM (read ONLY), and apps don't use it as storage (read ONLY), and it's not used for multitasking space (read ONLY), so there's no logical explanation for it.
MY theory is originally the phone was going to ship with 4GB memory card, and they changed it to 8GB at the last minute.... and that was an artifact that got jumbled with the old specs.... because GSM Arena and AT&T both show 768RAM plus 8GB SD Card only.
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I'm still noy buyin it that there's a mystery 4GB in the phone.
Looking at the root system it's about 500mb, of which 300mb is free (for tasking), and then I have about 250mb of apps installed, which adds up too close to 768 for coincidence in my mind.
If there were a 4gb ROM floating around in there, it'd be absolutely useless. Obviously the OS isn't installed on it, since It's ROM (read ONLY), and apps don't use it as storage (read ONLY), and it's not used for multitasking space (read ONLY), so there's no logical explanation for it.
MY theory is originally the phone was going to ship with 4GB memory card, and they changed it to 8GB at the last minute.... and that was an artifact that got jumbled with the old specs.... because GSM Arena and AT&T both show 768RAM plus 8GB SD Card only.
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GSMARENA Inspire 4G
gsmarena also states 4GB INTERNAL STORAGE, not ROM specifically.
From their site...
Internal 4 GB storage, 768 MB RAM
Card slot microSD, up to 32GB, 8GB included, buy memory
There is a thread in this forum with this issue questioned, and some guy emailed HTC. The answer we are telling you is the same they tell every one. This is not AT&T HTC phones do this, look at the G2 the Thunderbolt. It isn't a lie they are telling every one. That is what they use the memory for, some sort of back up(I don't know exactly what it is backing up). HTC does this with all the newer phones.....
Here is a good answer for this guys, we lose half the available space for speed and stability.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12111805&postcount=11
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Here is a good answer for this guys, we lose half the available space for speed and stability.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12111805&postcount=11
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I call shenanigans haha
Already many threads on the topic. Yes there is technically 4GB internal but only 1GB is user accessible. The other 3GB is reserved for the OS, ect...
Twenty4 said:
Already many threads on the topic. Yes there is technically 4GB internal but only 1GB is user accessible. The other 3GB is reserved for the OS, ect...
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If I can't use it or see it, it doesn't exist. ;-)
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If I can't use it or see it, it doesn't exist. ;-)
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I agree, I just pretend it only came with one gig and honestly, with 93 apps (50 on Sdcard), I still have 650 mb left so it doesn't bother me too much.
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why did htc only put 1 gb of internal storage into this phone. does anyone know what the reasoning was by doing this.first reports had it with 4 gb of internal storage now its 1gb. i know you can add memory via sd card but why not just make the internal memory 16/32 gb. not bashing the phone, i have mine on preorder and cant wait. this will be my first android phone, but just would have liked it to come with that much onboard.
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why did htc only put 1 gb of internal storage into this phone. does anyone know what the reasoning was by doing this.first reports had it with 4 gb of internal storage now its 1gb. i know you can add memory via sd card but why not just make the internal memory 16/32 gb. not bashing the phone, i have mine on preorder and cant wait. this will be my first android phone, but just would have liked it to come with that much onboard.
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dude it comes with an 8gb microsd card stop crying
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dude it comes with an 8gb microsd card stop crying
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I've been using one of these in my TMO US HD2 running Froyo NAND.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211535
Copilot, mp4 videos, lot 'o audio files.
Not a hiccup.
Haven't run any apps from the card other than map data but I might try a couple.
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I've been using one of these in my TMO US HD2 running Froyo NAND.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211535
Copilot, mp4 videos, lot 'o audio files.
Not a hiccup.
Haven't run any apps from the card other than map data but I might try a couple.
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How is ADATA as a card supplier? I've only ever used Kingston & SanDisk & never had any issues. I've been looking in to getting a class 10 16GB card for when tmous drops the Sensation on the 8th & newegg has this one (when it comes back in stock).
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why did htc only put 1 gb of internal storage into this phone. does anyone know what the reasoning was by doing this.first reports had it with 4 gb of internal storage now its 1gb. i know you can add memory via sd card but why not just make the internal memory 16/32 gb. not bashing the phone, i have mine on preorder and cant wait. this will be my first android phone, but just would have liked it to come with that much onboard.
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Supposedly it has 4GB but only 1GB is user accessible (1.1 from what others here have reported).
first android. start learn. 1gb is nand data partition. (4gb all nand, system, cashe, data) used for system data (contacts, sms, u.t.t.) and apps. cant used for downloads and media. not need more.
but it would be better to have 16gb internal storage cause flash storage is always faster than a sd card (at least in terms of access time)
Seriously guys....it's no problem.
I got my sensation 3 days ago, installed 35+ apps and it hasn't even made a dent in the internal memory.
It's not like the desire if people are thinking it'll come to that.
After 35+ apps, i still have 800mb left of memory. I've got big games installed.
Seems a lot automatically install onto SD card without even telling it.
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why did htc only put 1 gb of internal storage into this phone. does anyone know what the reasoning was by doing this.first reports had it with 4 gb of internal storage now its 1gb. i know you can add memory via sd card but why not just make the internal memory 16/32 gb. not bashing the phone, i have mine on preorder and cant wait. this will be my first android phone, but just would have liked it to come with that much onboard.
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They did it because it was cheaper to put a smaller amount of NRAM in the phone.
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How is ADATA as a card supplier? I've only ever used Kingston & SanDisk & never had any issues. I've been looking in to getting a class 10 16GB card for when tmous drops the Sensation on the 8th & newegg has this one (when it comes back in stock).
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Of the 8 or so Adata cards I have purchased over the years, (With 4 kids, a wife and my toys, MP3 players phones, cards for work) I have only had to RMA 1 card, one time and they had an amazingly great support group here in the US.
Very happy with their products!
Good to hear Barff1984. sorry but i am new to android so i though 1 gb of storage was not going to be enough for apps. this will be my first android/htc phone and just want a great first experience.
As a current Desire owner, internal memory is the real killer for me. I've not been able to install an app in months as there is no room left. I'm thinking about upgrading to a Sensation mainly because of this (and it's just SO fast!). Just wish it had an amoled screen like my Desire. It looks so washed out in comparison.
it's 100x better than the desire when it comes to apps. I'm running out of things to download now (V heavy app user) and still have 70%+ space left of internal
So yea, don't worry about the internal memory....I've yet to find an owner who said they've run out of space. Unlike the desire.
It's actually quite strange moving from a desire. I used to have to delete a lot of apps, then reinstall at a later date when i wanted them. My Appbrain account was constantly used to reinstall...with the sensation though, i just installed everything...I'm going app-happy
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Of the 8 or so Adata cards I have purchased over the years, (With 4 kids, a wife and my toys, MP3 players phones, cards for work) I have only had to RMA 1 card, one time and they had an amazingly great support group here in the US.
Very happy with their products!
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good to know, thanks. also great to see someone else from the tmonews hd2 forum over here
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good to know, thanks. also great to see someone else from the tmonews hd2 forum over here
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Yeah. Been hanging around here since '05!
The HTC One X has 16GB of storage total, but only about 2GB can be used for apps. I don't get it, its all internal memory, why separate it like that? Or is it just similar to my current Android phone where i have 2 separate storage areas, a small amount of phone memory, and SD Card. Should i think of the One X as having phone memory and a built in SD card so to speak. Because on my current phone i can move some apps from phone memory to SD card in Android Settings based off how they work, and some need to stay on the phone. Would this be a similar way that it may work on the One X?
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The HTC One X has 16GB of storage total, but only about 2GB can be used for apps. I don't get it, its all internal memory, why separate it like that? Or is it just similar to my current Android phone where i have 2 separate storage areas, a small amount of phone memory, and SD Card. Should i think of the One X as having phone memory and a built in SD card so to speak. Because on my current phone i can move some apps from phone memory to SD card in Android Settings based off how they work, and some need to stay on the phone. Would this be a similar way that it may work on the One X?
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the 10gb partition is basically an sdcard yes. 2gb of app storage is actually a lot. if an app needs extra data, it's saved to the internal memory (10gb).
That's the typical configuration for almost all Android phones. You have system partition where the kernel/OS/system resides. You have app paritition where all apps install to. Then you have the SDcard type storage area where all user/app data stores to.
2GB app partition is quite large. You can also install app to SDcard if you use up all the 2GB space.
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The HTC One X has 16GB of storage total, but only about 2GB can be used for apps. I don't get it, its all internal memory, why separate it like that? Or is it just similar to my current Android phone where i have 2 separate storage areas, a small amount of phone memory, and SD Card. Should i think of the One X as having phone memory and a built in SD card so to speak. Because on my current phone i can move some apps from phone memory to SD card in Android Settings based off how they work, and some need to stay on the phone. Would this be a similar way that it may work on the One X?
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This has been covered before, but the reason HTC went this route is to have usb mass storage mode. With one big partion, such as I have on my gtab 10.1 mtp is used, usb mass storage is not an option.
And yes, moving apps to sd works, even large games where most of the data is downloaded afterwords, that data goes to your "sd". In short, the 2gb app partion is plenty.
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really?
don't mean to beat a dead horse here, but really, is 2gb enough? i'm on a t-mobile mytouch 4g slide and i might be leaving t-mobile to come to at&t and get the htc one x, but one of my biggest complaints is the storage space. i'm CONSTANTLY having to delete apps to stay above 200mb free (and i have no music on my phone and all pics are on the sd card). right now i have 102 apps/games installed. i find that if i start moving apps/games to sd i start having phone issues (and i know not to move apps that have widgets, but even still, just installing games and stuff still tends to cause freezes and force closes). now the only reason i might be able to trust you guys and take the leap of faith here with the 2gb is that i'm running android 2.3 here... i know that android 4.0 is a totally different beast and things just run amazingly better to begin with (especially with the added hardware of the one x)... so maybe i really don't need to worry about moving some of my bigger games like plants vs zombies and peggle (thats like 150mb right there on the phone storage alone) to sd on this android 4.0 device...
SO... anyone wanna help me feel a little better about this and give me some more assurance that everything is just gonna be ok haha.
thanks
One major difference here is that your T-Mo MyTouch 4G Slide needs to use the slower microSD card for SD storage. Due to the speed difference and general unreliable performance of external SD storage, it could cause issues for apps stored on those external SD cards.
For HOX, there is no external SD card involved. The 10 GB or so storage you can use is from the same NAND chip that is used by the internal 2GB app storage. So, there shouldn't be any problem for moving apps to that storage.
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One major difference here is that your T-Mo MyTouch 4G Slide needs to use the slower microSD card for SD storage. Due to the speed difference and general unreliable performance of external SD storage, it could cause issues for apps stored on those external SD cards.
For HOX, there is no external SD card involved. The 10 GB or so storage you can use is from the same NAND chip that is used by the internal 2GB app storage. So, there shouldn't be any problem for moving apps to that storage.
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interesting. sounds pretty reasonable. i don't really store any music on my phone other than a few spotify offline playlists, and no movies, so the space would be totally pictures, apps and games... so if what you're saying is true, i guess i shouldn't really worry about the 2gb... gonna go play with one in a store tomorrow to make sure i'll be happy jumping from 3.7 to 4.7" but i think this might be a done deal for me ...
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That's the typical configuration for almost all Android phones. You have system partition where the kernel/OS/system resides. You have app paritition where all apps install to. Then you have the SDcard type storage area where all user/app data stores to.
2GB app partition is quite large. You can also install app to SDcard if you use up all the 2GB space.
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No it is not the typical configuration for all Android phones, not after ICS. After ICS I think HTC is the only one who insist on sticking to it. Even though MTP have its pro and cons, I think sticking to the old 2 GB partition has more Cons than Pros.
And while 2GB is enough for many users, for many others, it is NOT enough. FYI not all apps can be moved to SDcard and right now I have almost 4 GB on apps on my tablet. So for a heavy user, 2GB space is both restrictive AND unnecessary.
This is a stupid decision by HTC that has stopped me from buying their phone since HTC desire HD (which gave me such an headache due to this restriction)
Also consider the exponential growth in the file size of the apps. A few years ago, you will have hard pressed to find an apps that is more than 100 MB, now some apps even approaches 0.5 GB to 1GB size. Enough? Hardly.
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don't mean to beat a dead horse here, but really, is 2gb enough? i'm on a t-mobile mytouch 4g slide and i might be leaving t-mobile to come to at&t and get the htc one x, but one of my biggest complaints is the storage space. i'm CONSTANTLY having to delete apps to stay above 200mb free (and i have no music on my phone and all pics are on the sd card). right now i have 102 apps/games installed. i find that if i start moving apps/games to sd i start having phone issues (and i know not to move apps that have widgets, but even still, just installing games and stuff still tends to cause freezes and force closes). now the only reason i might be able to trust you guys and take the leap of faith here with the 2gb is that i'm running android 2.3 here... i know that android 4.0 is a totally different beast and things just run amazingly better to begin with (especially with the added hardware of the one x)... so maybe i really don't need to worry about moving some of my bigger games like plants vs zombies and peggle (thats like 150mb right there on the phone storage alone) to sd on this android 4.0 device...
SO... anyone wanna help me feel a little better about this and give me some more assurance that everything is just gonna be ok haha.
thanks
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Of those 102 apps/games, name 51 of them without looking lol.
Why is this here?
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i found that the internal storage for files was only about 10gb... 16gb internal storage is what all the specs say. i guess some 6gigs are allocated for apps and such? 10gigs really isn't much with the 8MP camera and ability to shoot HD vid.
am i missing something here? i'd like to have more storage capacity for music and still have room to shoot a few pics or even a video
any help would be appreciated. thx!
I have 10 GB, too. But there are 2 GB more for apps ("Internal memory") and the rest is for the OS and that stuff I think
4 GB reserved for the system??
I had the One X, which is supposed to have 32 GB, but 29,xx GB were usable. So the One X uses less system space?
I don't know, it's just what I think
10.5gb for user
2.5gb for apps
2.gb for ROM..
thats according to TB so i assume thats right
Its almost 16gb.. But hey a ford mustang 550bhp only has 543bhp
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4 GB reserved for the system??
I had the One X, which is supposed to have 32 GB, but 29,xx GB were usable. So the One X uses less system space?
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From hanging out in the HOX channel I think their partition setup is the same as the HOS. They have 32 GB and about 6 are claimed from the beginning for /app /data and other, smaller partitions. At least I recall people mentioning something about roughly 26 GB usable space.
Actually I find it ridiculous that HTC does not allow users to choose the partition size they need. And without S-OFF and full device access it is not possible to modify the partitions for devs... Aside from the fact that with ICS there is not even a NEED to define partitions as strictly as before, because of this new unified storage concept...
Hey guys, my brand new out of the box htc one x shows 9gb free storage.., do you guys have the same?
i understand with the software comes out to be about 13gb but 9gb? is there something wrong with mine?
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Hey guys, my brand new out of the box htc one x shows 9gb free storage.., do you guys have the same?
i understand with the software comes out to be about 13gb but 9gb? is there something wrong with mine?
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Normal.
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Normal.
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thanks, but now i feel ripped off!
first i saw 32gb ads, then expects atleast 16gb, found out to be 9gb..
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thanks, but now i feel ripped off!
first i saw 32gb ads, then expects atleast 16gb, found out to be 9gb..
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It's 16gb total on the att version, international is 32. I believe it's about 2gb for apps and 5 for os and system junk that is allocated.
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thanks, but now i feel ripped off!
first i saw 32gb ads, then expects atleast 16gb, found out to be 9gb..
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32 is for the international HOX. You still have 16gb of internal memory, but obviously that's not all accessible, which should've been obvious from the get-go. The system takes up space and I believe 2gb is reserved for apps and there are other partitions too that take up space.
The One X does seem to allocate a lot more storage to the OS, Apps, and System than previous HTC Android phones.
My HOX shows 2.21 GB total internal storage and 9.93 GB phone storage. That adds up to 12.14 GB. That means the OS, Apps, and System take up almost 4 GB. My older HTC Inspire 4G used about half of that.
A 16 GB iPhone or iPad has about 14 GB useable. It really sounds like they have allocated some extra storage for future expansion on some of the partitions.
Titanium Backup shows:
System ROM: 1.05
Internal: 2.37
SD Card: 10.6
I'm not sure where the remaining 2GB are. Does Android have a swap partition?
The system ROM is in EEPROM storage and doesn't use the flash memory.
I recently bought a One S and one thing that has really been bugging me is the fact that I have much les storage than advertised. It says that you get 16 GB, but the actual amount is 12.14, and
2.21 of that is internal memory so I only actually have 9.93 to store my media. Why is this? Also it says it should have 1 GB of RAM but task manager says I only have 650 MB.
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tjamzt said:
I recently bought a One S and one thing that has really been bugging me is the fact that I have much les storage than advertised. It says that you get 16 GB, but the actual amount is 12.14, and
2.21 of that is internal memory so I only actually have 9.93 to store my media. Why is this? Also it says it should have 1 GB of RAM but task manager says I only have 650 MB.
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16 GB storage is partitioned and some RAM is reserved for the system and the GPU.
tjamzt said:
I recently bought a One S and one thing that has really been bugging me is the fact that I have much les storage than advertised. It says that you get 16 GB, but the actual amount is 12.14, and
2.21 of that is internal memory so I only actually have 9.93 to store my media. Why is this? Also it says it should have 1 GB of RAM but task manager says I only have 650 MB.
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First off no hdd or flash memory is ever 100% as advertise because its been formatted to run. That's why there is only 12gb instead of 16gb. And that 2gb is the space dedicated to app installs. And the remainder is for you to do with however you please. Music, videos, extra game data (like many of gameloft games where you need to dl an extra 500 MB or so) or whatever you else you want to throw on other then an app install.
When you see an app in market and you download it and install it, it goes directly to that 2gb partition. If you download an app from a third party website it first goes to the 9gb space and once it installs it, it installs on the 2gb and all you need to do is delete the original dl .apk or keep it as a back up.
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The above answers covered the answer so no need to reiterate but I just want to opine that you should consider yourself lucky, HTC doesn't rape you like Motorola does. On the Razr and Bionic, they are advertised as 16gb internal but only 8 is accessible to the user. They allot 4gb for apps and 4 for the OS. Bonus for them is obviously expandable memory.
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System takes the resources
On many phones the preinstalled software takes a lot of space. I would recommend to install another ROM. I always do that to get rid of the software I don't need.
Ok. Thanks for the help. But what about the RAM? Shouldnt all of it be available?
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Ok. Thanks for the help. But what about the RAM? Shouldnt all of it be available?
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As already said, some of the RAM is reserved for the system and GPU. For example my HD2 should have 576MB RAM but it only has 411/403 (depends on the ROM/Kernel I guess) because 128MB is for the GPU and the rest is used by the system. I never actually get that much free RAM (I never get more than 200MB free, and that's only on startup; normally I have around 130MB free) but at the same time it's never really been an issue.
Ok. I just though that everything was shown together because I always have 500 MB of RAM used even with all applications closed.
The phone will still reserve some RAM for itself, and that is not the best indicator of RAM that's actually in use.
HTC One S is a gorgeous piece of hardware. To bad they didn't add sd card support...
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My iPad is advertised 16 gb but its 13. Is the answers here applicable to that?
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On many phones the preinstalled software takes a lot of space. I would recommend to install another ROM. I always do that to get rid of the software I don't need.
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System software installed on separate partition usually. So removing them will not add more space to the user data.
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My iPad is advertised 16 gb but its 13. Is the answers here applicable to that?
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