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Hey all, Ill only ask this once, (Since after this time, Ill know for future updates and be on the right path =) )since this G1 is so new dev wise, its getting confusing when im studying everything all at once and only updated rooted once to the custom RC30. I saw the newer update is RC33, now when I apply that, is it required EACH TIME to wipe the device? Im asking cause it would be a pain to reinstall each app I had installed there to begin with. I know I wiped the 1st time I rooted and updated. So just wanted to check.
Also whats the new additions in these updates? Any good changelogs out there? I kinda like keeping the Tmobile US stuff on mine, but root access is awesome. =)
Thanks for any update tips out there atm.
Edit, My G1 is still on Firmware 1.1 is that a seperate update or how is everyone updating that with the custom stuff? Thanks. (And do I need that FW update before going RC33?)
Nope, you won't lose anything when you upgrade the firmware normally. Going from JF RC30 to JF RC33 should be fine
Check the stickied topic on the top of the forum to find out more:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475381
The changelog is somewhere in there.
Thank you. =) I didnt read that one since it was talking about for UK users. Heh. Least it explained things a lil more. =DDD
What about the firmware? Seems Ill have to do the new radio too, but wondering.. is that radio one for US too or only uk? Since its in a UK thread. =/
Nah, it's not a UK topic. He just modifies the title when he adds something new. The radio should be for the US version. Just download the radio and JF RC33 and throw them on your microSD (one at a time obviously, named update.zip).
Firmware 1.1 is just like the base firmware number, you can ignore that. Firmware 1.5 (I think) is cupcake, so you get the idea.
Ok so the firmware is nothing major atm to update or would you still upset it? I havent looked into cupcake yet.
No, completely ignore the firmware number, the only numbers you want to look at are RC30, 33, etc...
Ok this is odd. I updated fine to RC33, however when I try to get back in recovery mode to apply the radio rom, it wont go into the recovery mode. It just keeps rebooting to the G1 screen when im holding the home button. Anyone seen that before or how to get back into the recovery mode?
Anyone have any ideas?
Hi,
I recently purchased a dev phone and it came with adp 1.0. I had a few questions I was hoping someone could clear for me.
1. There is an adp 1.1 official release that I can upgrade to, what is the equivalent version of the jf series? (1.43?)
2. If I wanted to update my phone (adp 1.0) to the latest in the jf series, would I have to update to adp 1.1 and then update to the jf series? Or is there a way I can do it directly?
3. What are the radio updates and do I have to install them to upgrade to adp 1.1/jf v1.42/v1.43?
4. Any links that could point me in the right direction to upgrading from adp 1.0?
Sorry if these questions have been repeated, am new to this and looking for a little direction.
Thanks in advance, any help will be greatly appreciated
All your questions are answered in the initial post here.
Hi uberingram,
Thanks, I did read through that, however was still not very clear on a few things. If you could just correct me in case I'm wrong. This is my understanding from that post.
My understanding
1. JFv1.43 Holiday is what I should be installing since it is based on ADP 1.1h and is the latest in the series
3. Since I am currently on ADP1.0, if I want to jump to JFV1.43 Holiday directly I will have to perform a wipe (since I am not going to install JFv1.31 and then upgrade)
4. To install it, I need to follow the general sequence of saving the zip file to sdcard named update.zip, boot into recovery mode, and press alt+s. Then I need to do a wipe (alt+w)
Please correct me if any of my above steps are wrong (just want to make sure before I go through with any of this).
My only question now is, should I apply the radio update (http://jf.odiness.com/RC33/RC33radio_update_testkeys.zip), and if so, is there a particular sequence in which to install it? As in radio first and then JFv1.43 or JFv1.43 first and then radio?
Thanks
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Please correct me if any of my above steps are wrong (just want to make sure before I go through with any of this).
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You are correct.
sirpingalot said:
My only question now is, should I apply the radio update (http://jf.odiness.com/RC33/RC33radio_update_testkeys.zip),
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I would. A lot of us that ran JF1.43ADPh used the RC33 radio.
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and if so, is there a particular sequence in which to install it? As in radio first and then JFv1.43 or JFv1.43 first and then radio?
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Technically it doesn't matter but I always did it as the last step once I knew that the new build stuck and was working properly.
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Thanks a lot uberingram. This really helped me out. Am going to try this out now.
On an unrelated note, what I've understood is that SPL's, Radio Updates and builds are all independent of each other and can be installed in any combinations?
sirpingalot said:
On an unrelated note, what I've understood is that SPL's, Radio Updates and builds are all independent of each other and can be installed in any combinations?
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Yes but there are a few exceptions to that statement.
- it's advised for non rooted phones (OEM RC builds) to downgrade to RC29, install the test keys (not necessary for you) and do the SPL first.
- Some dev's here who build ROM's package radio updates with their updates. JF was nice enough to separate the radio from his builds so if you're a big ROM switcher you're not constantly flashing the radio.
But for the most part, yes, they are independent of each other.
Thanks a lot uberingram. You've helped me clarify a lot of my doubts
Now I want to put the official cupcake update on my phone, Now I dont care about my apps and settings since I can always re do them, But how could I have cupcake on my phone.. WITH it rooted and most importantly still be able to put my apps on my sd card?
I see here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462512
So by this I can root it and add the cupcake update, now when i did the apps on sd update, I used the guide that has the update.zip, so im guessing if I do the instructions above ill be able to wipe out my phone, re root it, and update it with cupcake, then all i need is to find a way to add apps on sd card, my question to u is, is there a easier way to do it like in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480582
or do I have to follow one of those really hard guides like this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=504235
So to clarify, i want rooted phone, cupcake and apps on sd, if someone could point me in the right way/guide to do it id be really happy
ps im not a dev so I can only follow what a guide says
no, no and no. rooted phones **CANNOT** install the official OTA updates. you will get notified but it will fail. if you want official, downgrade to rc29 using the nbh (link in my wiki) and wait for OTA updates. if you want JF update, give it more time.
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no, no and no. rooted phones **CANNOT** install the official OTA updates. you will get notified but it will fail. if you want official, downgrade to rc29 using the nbh (link in my wiki) and wait for OTA updates. if you want JF update, give it more time.
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SO theres no way to have root apps on sd with cupcake until JF makes his own or someone else? or is there a way to have root and sd on apps just need to find a way to have cupcake download into it?
right now all my phone is running off JF rc33 build and JF radio update and lucus apps on sd guide
As Darkrift stated ....
If you can't wait for one of the dev's here to release their custom version of the offical firmware, downgrade to RC29 and wait for the OTA update.
Now there is no telling how long it'll be before you get this update.
If you want apps 2 sd you can wait on the custom release from one of the devs here once they release the firmware you can install it and start using your apps on your sdcard.
I'm betting the dev's here will have the modded version of the firmware out before the majority of us have the OTA update pushed to us. That is what happened last time.
I'm not the most knowledgeable person here, but you simply cannot have A2SD on an official ROM from TMo, they have never supported it, and most likely won't in the future. So the only way is to get A2SD is to get one of the modded ROMs from here... none of them are OFFICIAL, but JF's release is nearly identical (even better) and has root... I see no reason to have the official ROM
Alright thanks guys, I guess Ill wait
hi, this is my first post on xda-developer and i need some help
my g1 currently does not have a data plan (i use wifi) and running RC 33.
since rooting requires the phone to be downgraded into stock RC 29 this require activation g1 again and i cant do that since i dont have a data plan.
is there a way i can still root without reactivating my phone (i dont care about a wipe just i cant activate it again)
thanks
any of the builds based off the ADP release should let you skip registration... a feature of the ADP from the start
Also use the info here (STICKY AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE.....) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452316 for when you first flash to rc29
so what builds are based off the adp relase sorry im not very good with these kinds of things and i have a t-mobile g1 would an adp build work for mine too?
and dont i need root first to get these builds?
thanks
all of the current cupcake mods are built off ADP... it says so in their title..... try at least looking before asking.....
yes once it is rooted your phone will take ADP firmware or any version of RC firmware...
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any of the builds based off the ADP release should let you skip registration... a feature of the ADP from the start
Also use the info here (STICKY AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE.....) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452316 for when you first flash to rc29
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Doesn't skipping registration make the phone unstable?
Can we use the link you posted for ADP 1.5 registration?
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all of the current cupcake mods are built off ADP... it says so in their title..... try at least looking before asking.....
yes once it is rooted your phone will take ADP firmware or any version of RC firmware...
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so can i just download a build and put it on my phone while i have an unrooted RC 33 or do i have to obtain root first then download the build
Hi,
Rogers released new dream rom with a radio update.
We have 62.50S.20.17H_2.22.19.26I now
This new is:
62.52S.20.18U_3.22.20.17.
Anyone able to get it out so we can flash it on cyan latest mod rom?
Dont know exact radio version but go here for rom:
http://www.htc.com/ca/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=269&cat=2&dl_id=654
Thanks again.
the whole dump is an nbh file that has to be flashed from the sd. Anybody know how to crack it open?
I bet it contains other fixes as well! The message on Twitter said that they fixed some bugs!
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the whole dump is an nbh file that has to be flashed from the sd. Anybody know how to crack it open?
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I remember back when I had my Wizard, there was a tool to pick apart nbh images and reassemble them. But this was for Windows Mobile, a completely different platform. Perhaps the basic file formats are similar?
Use qmat. It can unpack nbhs.
Mmmm, new radio.......yummy.....I like new stuff.....wait if it is a new radio, will this be able to work for us, how to we know that this won't jeprodize us with the danger spl. I know I ain't gonna be the first to try this
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Mmmm, new radio.......yummy.....I like new stuff.....wait if it is a new radio, will this be able to work for us, how to we know that this won't jeprodize us with the danger spl. I know I ain't gonna be the first to try this
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my thoughts exactly...took enough balls to go for the danger SPL in the first place.
my current radio works fine, so I am not going to mess.
then again...never say never. thats what XDA is all about
Well we know the radio calls the spl and that the old radio was not able to call the hayruko spl which cause way too many paperweights so how will we know if this radio will also call it, we can assume that since it is an update would but the word assume means to make an ass out of you and me, so is there any way that this can be checked or tested numerous times before we possibly get another wave of bricks and without a cupcake over the air excuse to fall back on. Just my thoughts.
Never change a running system my father tells. Me all the time.. ;-)
Yeah but I like new stuff, I got so used to it feeling like christmas around with new stuff all the time that I got spoiled. I have had this radio and spl for 3 months now and I am bored off it. I demand something new that could cause some new widespread havoc, can't we get something that causes a self destruct if installed incorrectly, kinda jealous of those iphone 3gs users and their exploding batteries, I want something that explodes and catches fire. I demand a refund what am I paying you dev for, wait I don't pay you, nevermind forget this whole post
P.s. I am just playing
rogers is DREA210
we have mostly DREA100/110
i dont think we r able to flash it...
Hardware is identical.
So it should work OK.
Just give me radio Rom only and i will flash it asap.
drea110 here.
You can go back to default by flashing DREAIMG.nbh and then re-flash with this Rom and all will be OK.BUT YOU WILL LOOSE ROOT!
And that is why i didn't flash it yet
Am waiting for someone to give a proper radio Rom to flash.
There will always be a question about whether any new radio image (IPL) that ships will be compatible with a hacked SPL or other SPL not intended for the specific device. This new IPL could very well brick every device it is installed on when mixed with the deathSPL. I very strongly suggest that nobody tries this IPL unless they switch back to their STOCK SPL. Now that HTC has so kindly provided the kernel source needed to build custom kernels that will boot on a stock dream as provided to rogers, there is absolutely NO NEED to continue using the deathSPL phone killer.
Hey, does this nbh file carry the SPL? (it must, doesn't it?)
If it does, then you could maybe just install this and reroot.
Yes it contains spl and radio rom and os rom on it so it will put back everything on stock.
But you will loose root and as of now there is no way to root on 1.5 version.. yet.
if there is i would flash it.
Re-root leave radio and check spl version.
if newer than deathspl would leave it and flash cyanogen 4.0.4.
If not reflash haykuro new hacked spl back and then wipe and flash cyanogen 4.0.4.
And am back in bussiness with new radio and/or spl.
But rooting on 1.5 cupcake needed to do that so...
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Yes it contains spl and radio rom and os rom on it so it will put back everything on stock.
But you will loose root and as of now there is no way to root on 1.5 version.. yet.
if there is i would flash it.
Re-root leave radio and check spl version.
if newer than deathspl would leave it and flash cyanogen 4.0.4.
If not reflash haykuro new hacked spl back and then wipe and flash cyanogen 4.0.4.
And am back in bussiness with new radio and/or spl.
But rooting on 1.5 cupcake needed to do that so...
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Really REALLY WRONG!
As I rank your knowledge about SPLs,Radios and android itself with this post, you shouldn't flash this, except if you wouldn't cry and open up a thread "My G1 is dead" ;-)
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Really REALLY WRONG!
As I rank your knowledge about SPLs,Radios and android itself with this post, you shouldn't flash this, except if you wouldn't cry and open up a thread "My G1 is dead" ;-)
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And you base that on what?
1.5 is rootable - look for "goldcard"
Second: This update has a different SPL - It's not an Engineering SPL.
It replaces your recovery.
And I think these Recovery and ROM wouldn't boot on a regular T-Mobile G1, because it has a different radio chip.
It's very risky to flash this, because it's from a different phone.
It's NOT the same hardware!
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1.5 is rootable - look for "goldcard"
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I hope this is not a very stupid question, but why would you need a goldcard. Can't you just revert to RC29 and root you device the old and easy way?
maxisma said:
1.5 is rootable - look for "goldcard"
Second: This update has a different SPL - It's not an Engineering SPL.
It replaces your recovery.
And I think these Recovery and ROM wouldn't boot on a regular T-Mobile G1, because it has a different radio chip.
It's very risky to flash this, because it's from a different phone.
It's NOT the same hardware!
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Of course i didn't expect it to be engineering spl, this rom are made of normal ppl to use not experiment so normal spl would be on it but maybe the same as g1 or newer.
rogers only modification was on UMTS 850 / 1900 bands the normal g1 only supports UMTS 1700 / 2100 but rogers g1 users did flash radio rom from g1 vanilla see hardspl or even haykuro's hacked spl and they work fine so why not the contrary?
After all they keep the same base versions:
We have 62.50S.20.17H_2.22.19.26I
They have 62.52S.20.18U_3.22.20.17.
If they had: 3.0008 i wouldn't bother smells from miles is not same radio hardware
But as you can see the code is identical to each other, only newer!
The hardware IS the same my friend only they dont have dvt only pvt motherboards and they all be flashed with latest haykuro's spl and radio!
If am wrong the os will load but i wont have cell reception but that is as far as it goes for a brick.
Am 99% this rom will do just fine on any pvt g1 phone out there.
As for goldcard, didnt know there is a way to root on 1.5 please enlighten me.
Is there anything to download to make this happen? ->link
if it is am more than 101% that this rom will go on my phone sweet.
After that i dont know what happens will i be able to flash haykuro spl back or i will have a brick? will it let me flash custom rom?
Over and out.