Now I want to put the official cupcake update on my phone, Now I dont care about my apps and settings since I can always re do them, But how could I have cupcake on my phone.. WITH it rooted and most importantly still be able to put my apps on my sd card?
I see here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462512
So by this I can root it and add the cupcake update, now when i did the apps on sd update, I used the guide that has the update.zip, so im guessing if I do the instructions above ill be able to wipe out my phone, re root it, and update it with cupcake, then all i need is to find a way to add apps on sd card, my question to u is, is there a easier way to do it like in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480582
or do I have to follow one of those really hard guides like this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=504235
So to clarify, i want rooted phone, cupcake and apps on sd, if someone could point me in the right way/guide to do it id be really happy
ps im not a dev so I can only follow what a guide says
no, no and no. rooted phones **CANNOT** install the official OTA updates. you will get notified but it will fail. if you want official, downgrade to rc29 using the nbh (link in my wiki) and wait for OTA updates. if you want JF update, give it more time.
Darkrift said:
no, no and no. rooted phones **CANNOT** install the official OTA updates. you will get notified but it will fail. if you want official, downgrade to rc29 using the nbh (link in my wiki) and wait for OTA updates. if you want JF update, give it more time.
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SO theres no way to have root apps on sd with cupcake until JF makes his own or someone else? or is there a way to have root and sd on apps just need to find a way to have cupcake download into it?
right now all my phone is running off JF rc33 build and JF radio update and lucus apps on sd guide
As Darkrift stated ....
If you can't wait for one of the dev's here to release their custom version of the offical firmware, downgrade to RC29 and wait for the OTA update.
Now there is no telling how long it'll be before you get this update.
If you want apps 2 sd you can wait on the custom release from one of the devs here once they release the firmware you can install it and start using your apps on your sdcard.
I'm betting the dev's here will have the modded version of the firmware out before the majority of us have the OTA update pushed to us. That is what happened last time.
I'm not the most knowledgeable person here, but you simply cannot have A2SD on an official ROM from TMo, they have never supported it, and most likely won't in the future. So the only way is to get A2SD is to get one of the modded ROMs from here... none of them are OFFICIAL, but JF's release is nearly identical (even better) and has root... I see no reason to have the official ROM
Alright thanks guys, I guess Ill wait
Related
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QPUWC9AC
ROM Re-flash (THIS FILE IS LEAK FROM HTC)
1. Format the SD card to FAT32 mode
2. Copy image file XXX.nbh to the SD card and rename to DREAIMG.NBH
3. Turn the device power off and insert Diagnostic SD card
4. Hold Camera button, and press Power button to entry Boot loader mode
5. Press Power button to start upgrade procedure
6. After finish, perform the soft reset to reboot
Please check this link Service manual for G1 (Page 63-64) for more info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=457133
Mod Edit: Link broken but get Manual Here: www.mikechannon.net
Can we have more of a discription of what exactly this is???
DreaIMG_1.26.531.2_Official_signed.nbh
find this file, still don't know what it is!
http://odiness.com/misc/android/DreaIMG_1.26.531.2_Official_signed.nbh
Mirror. Have not tested.
it is a origional RC30 and without root, right?
hskoon... can u describe what r u posting here...? we know it's RC30 image but if it's the OTA RC30 ver, then it'll just do more harm here & pointless
Can we have DREAIMG.NBM file for RC19 or RC28 or RC29
With this, at least now we can upgrade to an official version of Cupcake without worrying it patched up any (yet to discovered) security holes in RC30.
Still hoping to root my official RC30 phone...
coolbho3000 said:
With this, at least now we can upgrade to an official version of Cupcake without worrying it patched up any (yet to discovered) security holes in RC30.
Still hoping to root my official RC30 phone...
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HTC can have Google change the private keys of their bootloader with no consequences. HTC/T-Mobile is the only one that uses them, so they'd just have to check which version to use before reflashing. If it's an older phone, use the older version.
Basically, the cupcake build can include new keys which would make this .nbh useless.
Gary13579 said:
HTC can have Google change the private keys of their bootloader with no consequences. HTC/T-Mobile is the only one that uses them, so they'd just have to check which version to use before reflashing. If it's an older phone, use the older version.
Basically, the cupcake build can include new keys which would make this .nbh useless.
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Crafty, aren't they. What are we to do?
ok testing this dreaimg.nbh on my non rooted official rc30 so that if it indeed is official RC30 no loss. will post results shortly.
Update Terminate UPDATE FAIL
no soup... tried this on my locked RC30 G1 and the update failed.
WARNING!!
From what I can disect from the file it includes t-mobiles shipped SPL, so if flashed and you have a eng bootloader or a dev phone it might overwrite your fallback bootloader!!!!
To the Poster, if you had access to this version can you see if you can get for us any earlier version before rc30, and or rc8 for uk phones. This would be most excellent and allow us to revert all rc30 rc8 phones.
Thank you for your time and effort!!!
Its just the RC30 nothing special about it.
so, i would highly advise that nobody use this. I had a perfectly usable g1 official rc30 and after trying this NBH and it failing, the phone is now unusable. REPEAT DO NOT USE THIS IMAGE!!!
The image update did not fail on my g1.
But ended up with the the same non rooted rc30 as i had on that phone.
indeed stupid... and double post.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3014684
bunny0007 said:
The image update did not fail on my g1.
But ended up with the the same non rooted rc30 as i had on that phone.
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bunny0007 what steps did you take? did you have to rename the file to dreaimg.nbh and remove all the other stuff? i would like to try to reflash this one to at least get it back to stock rc30
Yep renamed it with capital letters to DREAIMG.NBH on a blank sd, and flash it thrug the bootloader.
But the system and user date took a while.
odd, thats what i did to two of these testers that i had and both got corrupted... oh wait, it wasnt capital letters, not sure if that would make a difference or not, but it seemed to have found it and started working... let me try with caps....
With all of the (most likely false) articles coming out saying cupcake will be released this week (from what ive heard, good luck getting it by march) everyone is asking "Will rooted G1s get OTA updates?
No, you will not (if you have rooted your phone properly (this means you have JF's latest rom)) receive the OTA update. Technically you might receive it, but it will fail to install if you do. This was done on purpose because if it succeeded you would lose root. Shortly after the OTA updates are released, various members of the G1 "hacking" (yeah, term doesnt quite fit, but it will work for now) community will intercept it, tear it apart, remove all the mean mean code that steals our precious root, maybe add some fun new stuff and then release another modified rom in its place.
If you suddenly decide you do not want root anymore (I am guessing you are too lazy to download the update manually) you can use the RC29 downgrade nbh file found on various threads here, or in my wiki (see my signature) to go back to an official RC29 which would then let you receive OTA updates normally.
duhh lol this should be a board annocuments
I've heard some people saying they got the update but I dont see how that is possible. Wasnt google says like a 2 weeks ago that cupcake isnt close to being ready for the public? The only thing I can think of would be and update to support paid apps. I figured if cupcake was launching someone on here would have announced it.
Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't downgrading to RC29 while still rooted just give you RC29 with test keys still enabled? Wouldn't you also need to reflash your recovery partition as well to the stock one?
the rc29 will flash the recovery also the only thing you would be left with is the boot loader
Frankly, we'll all probably have a modified Cupcake before most G1 consumers actually have Cupcake. Google rolls out the updates really slowly. There's no reason to downgrade.
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the rc29 will flash the recovery also the only thing you would be left with is the boot loader
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Good to know, my g1 has a bad wifi module and I need to restore it and send it back. I figured I would experiment with rooting the defective one first in case it went wrong.
Come to think of it, my wifi reception problem could be an antenna problem which could explain my weak 3g reception, or it might just be the 3g network...
speoples20 said:
I've heard some people saying they got the update but I dont see how that is possible. Wasnt google says like a 2 weeks ago that cupcake isnt close to being ready for the public? The only thing I can think of would be and update to support paid apps. I figured if cupcake was launching someone on here would have announced it.
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there is going to be a video recorder FINALLY... rumors rumors lol
xile6 said:
the rc29 will flash the recovery also the only thing you would be left with is the boot loader
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bzzzzzt. wrong answer . the RC29 nbh also flashes the bootloader.
MY bad i meant the Engineering SPL wouldnt that still be left?
hmm....so the new cupcake update coming out will close root again? that is so stupid, why wont they just let it be.
granted, like mentioned above, some of our famed and hard working G1 modders will probably have a modded rom with the whole cupcake update on it before everyone would have recieved the OTA anyway.
we'll see what happens i guess, but not for nothing, im really looking forward to the Cupcake updated features and abilities
im almost tempted to just revert back to RC29 just to get the official OTA and see how it is, but then again, whos to say it wont take months for me to get it.
As a note for all those who read my post and thought "yeah, I am lazy, I might as well downgrade and let the OTA's come." you might want to rethink it. If you downgrade, and the new OTA reflashes your system to not accept the RC29 downgrade, you might never get root again. And yes, this is entirely possible.
If you have root, I would not risk it for laziness or eagerness to have the latest OTA because history shows JF has had modified updates in less than 24 hours (I think they were all about 3-5 hours later) after the OTA's were first found.
i wholey agree with that. i definatly dont want to be locked out of root again. although i dont use it as much as others, root is good to have if needed to use it for something.
It would be stupid to downgrade to receive the ota. It took 1 month after the release just to get rc29. Waiting for someone to rip apart and modify the cupcake ota will be much quicker than to wait for the ota update yourself plus root access probably will be lost. Just say no to ota!
Anyways if people are so eager to see cupcake in action visit their local tmobile retailer I bet they will have it as soon as it gets out
Downgrade? Revert? Not an option now that I have root, no way I would chance losing it. Good heads up, I was pretty sure (actually was one of the ? i had) before rooting that this would occur. I spent some time here on XDA and realized that I could trust this forum and the devs to support the rooted community.
Thanks to all who make root possible and what it is on the G1!
All~G1 said:
Downgrade? Revert? Not an option now that I have root, no way I would chance losing it. Good heads up, I was pretty sure (actually was one of the ? i had) before rooting that this would occur. I spent some time here on XDA and realized that I could trust this forum and the devs to support the rooted community.
Thanks to all who make root possible and what it is on the G1!
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well said ..... thanx much. XDA has helped me start learning this new language. As I stumble through, I find a surprising lack of b.s. and have learned quite a bit ... way thanx, to all ya all
my theory on when the next RC will drop.
They have been slow to get out updates, unless there is a exploit found.
When the bug was found everybody got rc 30 in a few days, I think that the new found downgrade route will speedup the next update to stop downgrading, if the tmob wants to keep the handset locked they will push for a speedy update to stop downgrades.
They also eluded that a beta was close but the holidays would alow it down but they did say it would be january, and if they are late people grumble and lose faith, for a phone that's sold on what it can become not what it is out of the box, losing faith means losing sales...
Bhang
xile6 said:
MY bad i meant the Engineering SPL wouldnt that still be left?
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I am pretty sure flashing an NBH will bring you back to the original SPL. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
They have been slow to get out updates, unless there is a exploit found.
When the bug was found everybody got rc 30 in a few days, I think that the new found downgrade route will speedup the next update to stop downgrading, if the tmob wants to keep the handset locked they will push for a speedy update to stop downgrades.
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The problem that T-Mobile has now is that in order to stop downgrading, HTC would have to make a new SPL that blacklists the signature of RC29 NBH. Google can patch whatever they want, but I'll be able to downgrade immediately just by putting the NBH file on my sdcard and flash it via SPL
I'm curious as to why everyone assumes that the next update will make moves specifically to remove/block root for those who have it?
My understanding/interpretations of the press relases surrounding RC30 was that it was intended to fix the massive security risk in RC29. Perhaps I've missed something, but I've not seen anything that Google or T-Mobile have done specifically to counteract the "hacker" community, the blocking of the rooting method being "colateral damage" from the security fix. If the superuser method can be used to safely provide root access couldn't this be rolled Android itself? It's over my head but has this question been posed to powers that be at http://source.android.com/?
How to downgrade from Rc33
Ok...I updated to RC33. Didn't know before I updated that I wouldn't be able to go from RC33 to root. So now I need to downgrade.
Can anyone help me downgrade from RC33 to RC29? Or maybe even RC33 to RC30? I searched and couldn't find anything on this but did see someone post that JF walked someone thru it recently....how ever I can not find it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
If I could get a dollar for everytime I linked to this sticky....
acousticdank said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
If I could get a dollar for everytime I linked to this sticky....
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I been in that thread....it's instructions to downgrade from RC30....not RC33.
And I have been going backwards in that thread from the latest posts for about 10 pages now and see nothing about downgrading from RC33.
Doesn't matter what rom you have installed as of now.
You need to follow the instructions and then pick which rom betters you.
Or even try going straight to 30 by renaming it, update, and install it in recovery mode.
Ok....I missed one small word....RC30 and above...
Thanks...in the process of trying to gain root now...
To make it clear for me, is the old downgrading process with a new german RC33 G1 still possible or will it fail because of an new SPL?
ThaBadBoy said:
Ok...I updated to RC33. Didn't know before I updated that I wouldn't be able to go from RC33 to root. So now I need to downgrade.
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i don't really understand your problem. you want to downgrade because you don't have root anymore?
if so, it's a bit strange because i have root access on RC33 Oo
Meltus said:
i don't really understand your problem. you want to downgrade because you don't have root anymore?
if so, it's a bit strange because i have root access on RC33 Oo
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Think he means he upgraded to OTA RC33. Anyway like the previous posters have already indicated, the NBH file downgrades OTA RC33 as well.
ah i see, my mistake.
Hey guys I have two quick questions:
1. I have an OTA rc33 (stock) update on my phone I just received today, in order to root my g1, I will need to downgrade to the stock rc29. It's imposible just to get my phone rooted straight from rc33?
2. If the first question is true. After I downgrade and rooted the rc29, can I just download the latest jfv1.41 rc33 (developer version) ? Or I would need to update the rooted rc30 first in order to get the jfv1.41 rc33.
Your kindly help and suggestion are greatly appreciated.
phuthanvinh said:
Hey guys I have two quick questions:
1. I have an OTA rc33 (stock) update on my phone I just received today, in order to root my g1, I will need to downgrade to the stock rc29. It's imposible just to get my phone rooted straight from rc33?
Correct you need to downgrade to RC29 first for root.
2. If the first question is true. After I downgrade and rooted the rc29, can I just download the latest jfv1.41 rc33 (developer version) ? Or I would need to update the rooted rc30 first in order to get the jfv1.41 rc33.
For RC29 you can install JF's Modded version of RC33
Your kindly help and suggestion are greatly appreciated.
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You're welcome
Just One Question:
Is it still possible to downgrade with an GERMAN G1 with the original Bootloader installed on it, or is the security hole fixed which allows downgrading with the nbh File. Please do someone answer me that question please
I tried root but had problems went back to RC29 stock but now I would like to go to RC33. What do I need to do to manually update?
Viper
Links to manually update are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=479571
i manually installed rc33 ota update and so i decided root my g1 then i get stuck on the colorful boot screen.
as the instructions on downgrading from rc30 i suspect it would be the same on a g1 with rc33.
im not sure if the formatting was done correct but i did the following:
on my eee linux netbook i typed
umnount /dev/sdd1
mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/sdd1
the zip file contained a file named "DREAIMG.nbh" the instructions quoted the file name as "DREAMIMG.nbh" so i tried it with both names and i get the same thing.
on another thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3271739&highlight=image+rc29+rc33#post3271739
if anybody can shed some light please. thanks =)
if i load a new spl will it help?
mark925 said:
Links to manually update are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=479571
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Thanks but that want work as I am at RC29 right now. That file says from RC30 to RC33.
Viper
Hey all, Ill only ask this once, (Since after this time, Ill know for future updates and be on the right path =) )since this G1 is so new dev wise, its getting confusing when im studying everything all at once and only updated rooted once to the custom RC30. I saw the newer update is RC33, now when I apply that, is it required EACH TIME to wipe the device? Im asking cause it would be a pain to reinstall each app I had installed there to begin with. I know I wiped the 1st time I rooted and updated. So just wanted to check.
Also whats the new additions in these updates? Any good changelogs out there? I kinda like keeping the Tmobile US stuff on mine, but root access is awesome. =)
Thanks for any update tips out there atm.
Edit, My G1 is still on Firmware 1.1 is that a seperate update or how is everyone updating that with the custom stuff? Thanks. (And do I need that FW update before going RC33?)
Nope, you won't lose anything when you upgrade the firmware normally. Going from JF RC30 to JF RC33 should be fine
Check the stickied topic on the top of the forum to find out more:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475381
The changelog is somewhere in there.
Thank you. =) I didnt read that one since it was talking about for UK users. Heh. Least it explained things a lil more. =DDD
What about the firmware? Seems Ill have to do the new radio too, but wondering.. is that radio one for US too or only uk? Since its in a UK thread. =/
Nah, it's not a UK topic. He just modifies the title when he adds something new. The radio should be for the US version. Just download the radio and JF RC33 and throw them on your microSD (one at a time obviously, named update.zip).
Firmware 1.1 is just like the base firmware number, you can ignore that. Firmware 1.5 (I think) is cupcake, so you get the idea.
Ok so the firmware is nothing major atm to update or would you still upset it? I havent looked into cupcake yet.
No, completely ignore the firmware number, the only numbers you want to look at are RC30, 33, etc...
Ok this is odd. I updated fine to RC33, however when I try to get back in recovery mode to apply the radio rom, it wont go into the recovery mode. It just keeps rebooting to the G1 screen when im holding the home button. Anyone seen that before or how to get back into the recovery mode?
Anyone have any ideas?
wassup people, i had rooted my phone a while ago and i need to know in order to update to jf 1.5, do i have to follow the same steps again or is there a different process since its already rooted i really dont know. i also nedd to know how to update the radio. im tired of my phone saying forclose
please hei need help people!!!!!!!!!
there are plenty of threads on how to install updates. as for which one to do first. It really doesnt matter. Just install one update reboot normally, copy other update to sd card, reboot into recovery again and install that update and reboot again.
so the only thing i have to do is add update to sd card and rename update zip and reboot it and thats it
mods
Same as any other build read the damn stickys at the top
Don't bother to use the search function. Don't bother to read any of the 100 threads that have been created about flashing a rom. You just post a new thread. Mods please lock this thread.
or once you are on any JF, just download his app from the market and let it do the work for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=479704