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Stuck in bootloader, please help!

Hello all,
Yesterday I tried to update my MDA Compact to qtek 1.06 and I saw to executables in the package:
getdevice.exe and enterbl.exe
I runned getdevice.exe for getting the device data for in the change.bat. That went oke, but out of curiosity I had to run the enterbl.exe, which made me go to the boot loader immediately. And now I'm stuck at the boot loader!
Whatever I do it won't boot to WME anymore! Soft reset, pressing the camera+power+reset, everytime it goes to the "Serial V1.00"screen.
When I remove and put back the backcover of the device (where the battery and sim are) it will go off and after a press on the power button it will boot to WME. But when I manually reset the device or when it automaticaaly reset itself after installing the ExROM tools, it goes back to the boot loader (Serial - V1.00) screen!
I even dumped the ROM with mmty to the SD card and flashed the device with that ROM again, but after it says Checksum is OK and I press reset it just goes straight to bootloader again.
I'm really out of clues of what to do. Can someone please help?
EDIT: When removing and putting back the backcover I can reset the device and it will boot back to WME so I can use it. But still when I softreset (with button or through software) it goes to boot loader. :-(
So using the backcover as a reset button is possible and does work, but it isn't very handy/usefull off course.
TIA
Regards,
Aurora13

Check the forum, the answer is there
Yes, you are still in bootloader mode and it's actually getting ready for you to flash.
Donno which part of it goes wrong, mine also have the same issue. What you need to do now is to restart your desktop pc / laptop (from the info I gathered from the forum). Then run that update thing again. This time, the same screen will appear saying it's trying to get the device data. Difference is, this time you no longer see the current version of ROM (as the Magician is in bootloader mode now). And you will see it show you the ROM that you going to upgrade to. Just follow the instruction, everything is straight forward. Hope this help.
cheers..

Thanks man!
You're the man cyberjaya!
It is working now, here is what I did (as told by cyberjaya):
- Rebooted my laptop
- Connected the MDA to the laptop
- Started the upgrade program of the qtek 1.06 ROM
- It didn't found my version, but it would let me update it to 1.06
- Flashing....(15 minutes is a LOOOONG time if you have to wait )
I did reset it a few times and it just boots normally!
Thank you ver much cyberjaya!
Regards,
Aurora13

No problemo
Am using laptop to flash also. Likely it's the USB hub thing (which listed in the "hardware devices" list). Read it somewhere, it's not recommended to flash using USB hub. Enjoy your new ROM!! .
cheers

I had a thought:
Isn't this the way to do a ROM upgrade without editing the ROM files?
Because it can't detect a different ROM and it will do the upgrade...
Or am I missing something?

Need some urgent help here guys!

I have sold my uni and the guy that bought it from me is not happy with the cotulla rom that I have installed becouse he can not connect to wifi!
So I followed the instructions on how to uninstall, but something somehow went wrong!
Here is the instructions I followed:
Uninstallation
1. You should able to use MTTY program for uninstallation.
2. Go to bootloader (Power + Lamp + Reset)
3. Run commands:
Code:
task 32
task 28 55aa4. Wait
5. Now you should reflash original WM50 rom.
6. Now you can install something else if you want.
Everything seemed to be fine, but the problem is that I can not flash the original (or any other!) uni rom for that matter!
In fact, I can not even boot into the uni anymore!
I can enter the bootloader, but as soon as I try to reset the device it just blacks out!
When trying to flash another rom I get the error: 112 problem!
I am running windows 7, but that should not be a problem becouse I used it to flash the cotulla rom before!
Is it possible to somehow flash from sd card, or can I do anything else to get the original rom in there?
I have no trouble searching the forum and have done that many times before. However this time, I can not do that becouse the person is here with me, and I need it fixed ASAP!
So please, anyone that can help me with either a link to the solution or a step by step?
I would appreciate it very much!
Thanks in advance guys!

branko.savic said:
Code:
task 32
task 28 55aa4. Wait
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The second command should be task 28 55aa.
Sometimes i had trouble doing doc format after cotulla rom,i had some error,and what i did is that i typed task 28, and it helped.
basically what i did is:
task 32
task 28
task 28 55aa
after that all worked perfect,no error.
I hope that helps

PalDragan said:
The second command should be task 28 55aa.
Sometimes i had trouble doing doc format after cotulla rom,i had some error,and what i did is that i typed task 28, and it helped.
basically what i did is:
task 32
task 28
task 28 55aa
after that all worked perfect,no error.
I hope that helps
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I tried it, no luck!
Everything seems to be fine, but when I reset the device I still get a black screen, just like if the device was turned off!

branko.savic said:
I tried it, no luck!
Everything seems to be fine, but when I reset the device I still get a black screen, just like if the device was turned off!
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Is there a way toflash the device without having to use the usb connection?
Can I flash using the sd card?
Or can I flash somehow trough the mtty?
Appreciate all help, the guy went home and left me with the device so I still have to figure this out till tomorrow!
Thanks!

I suppose it is in bootloader mode now. If not, go there...
Disconnect the USB cable and connect the device once again. Run the MTTY.
Type the following commands line by line (do not use copy paste):
set 14 0
task 8
regards

tomal said:
I suppose it is in bootloader mode now. If not, go there...
Disconnect the USB cable and connect the device once again. Run the MTTY.
Type the following commands line by line (do not use copy paste):
set 14 0
task 8
regards
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Ok so I did like this:
USB>task 14 0
task 14 0
USB>task 8
task 8
At task 8 I got a USB connection error, and the task never finished!
Oh, and the device went blank again!
Pressing the two action keys and reset, presents me with the restore screen, but pressing either 0 or X and device is black again!
This is getting really frustrating now!
The ROM I am trying to install is the original shipped rom with the device! (Swedish I-mate JasJar) and is an installation file, not a custom rom! Maybe this is where I am going wrong?

branko.savic said:
Ok so I did like this:
USB>task 14 0
task 14 0
USB>task 8
task 8
At task 8 I got a USB connection error, and the task never finished!
Oh, and the device went blank again!
Pressing the two action keys and reset, presents me with the restore screen, but pressing either 0 or X and device is black again!
This is getting really frustrating now!
The ROM I am trying to install is the original shipped rom with the device! (Swedish I-mate JasJar) and is an installation file, not a custom rom! Maybe this is where I am going wrong?
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No, it is not frustrating. You just finished the 1st step.
Now set your device in bootloader mode again and flash any rom you want. It will be then back to business.

branko.savic said:
Ok so I did like this:
USB>task 14 0
task 14 0
USB>task 8
task 8
At task 8 I got a USB connection error, and the task never finished!
Oh, and the device went blank again!
Pressing the two action keys and reset, presents me with the restore screen, but pressing either 0 or X and device is black again!
This is getting really frustrating now!
The ROM I am trying to install is the original shipped rom with the device! (Swedish I-mate JasJar) and is an installation file, not a custom rom! Maybe this is where I am going wrong?
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One update, I am getting the connection error: 101 from the original uptade utility now after doing the last two commands!
Hope this helps!

tomal said:
No, it is not frustrating. You just finished the 1st step.
Now set your device in bootloader mode again and flash any rom you want. It will be then back to business.
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Thanks for all your advice, but I still cant get it to work!
I always get the connection error, the strange thing is that mtty is working just fine!
I even found the file "UNI_ExitBootloader.exe" but it cant connect to the device either!
I read somewhere that there is a upgrade utility that will try to upgrade without first checking device ID, or something like that! But I cant find it anywhere!
So anymore help on this, would be greatly appreciated! If not, I am affraid I have to give the money back, sense I can not figure this out!
Thanks in advance!

branko.savic said:
Thanks for all your advice, but I still cant get it to work!
I always get the connection error, the strange thing is that mtty is working just fine!
I even found the file "UNI_ExitBootloader.exe" but it cant connect to the device either!
I read somewhere that there is a upgrade utility that will try to upgrade without first checking device ID, or something like that! But I cant find it anywhere!
So anymore help on this, would be greatly appreciated! If not, I am affraid I have to give the money back, sense I can not figure this out!
Thanks in advance!
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I suppose device behavior is normal.
You're getting blank screen because you already formated the DOC (using task 28 55aa). You need to flash a rom now.
1. Close all running application in your XP PC (better do a restart of your PC)
2. Set the device in BL mode and connect the USB cable (do not use USB hub)
3. Open the Device Manager at your PC. Check if you have something called Microsoft or HTC USB Sync under Portable/Mobile devices.
4. Flash any of my ROM (my RUU shouldn't check your CID)
5. Do a hard reset after flashing

Win7 and flash or other tools
This Week End I managed to try to flash using my brand new win7 machine.
It failed and I got my Uni stuck in bootloader mode
even mtty or uni_exitbootlaoder did not work.
Then I realized there was a trick with Vista, and I use the same.
Plug your Uni,
go to system management -> device manager
go to change driver for "mobile device" -> usb sync
and force manual install of the XP driver (somewhere in that forum there is a small zip file that contains the driver and the exit_bootloader tool)
you can find procedure and files here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313001
And it works like a charms, I could exit booloader mode, flash the tomal v10...
Everything is fine

tomal said:
I suppose device behavior is normal.
You're getting blank screen because you already formated the DOC (using task 28 55aa). You need to flash a rom now.
1. Close all running application in your XP PC (better do a restart of your PC)
2. Set the device in BL mode and connect the USB cable (do not use USB hub)
3. Open the Device Manager at your PC. Check if you have something called Microsoft or HTC USB Sync under Portable/Mobile devices.
4. Flash any of my ROM (my RUU shouldn't check your CID)
5. Do a hard reset after flashing
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I cant thank you enough!
Using XP did the trick, and I used one of your roms in the device!
Now everything is working as should!
Thanks again for all of your help!

Blank White Screen After Hard Reset
Here is my story:
My SPV M5000 was left turned off for a looong time with battery attached. As I remember there was an original Orange ROM. Recently I decided to reincarnate my Uni, but without success - old battery wont charge... When inserted new one, the result was the same - no charging light, not booting. Then tried hard reset and for a few times I saw text on the screen but pressing '0' turned off screen immediately each time. And suddenly i received nice white blank screen. In bootloader mode it was black nice as well - no Ver., no USB. After a sailing all over the Unis WIKI, i made mtty tricks with task 32/ task 28 /task 28 55aa and flashed an original ROM again. Now It charges, I can HardReset and put in Bootloader mode, I hear a sound , Keyboard is Active, but the screen remains BLANK WHITE after H.R. Hope, there is a trick that i didn't know how to .... Thanks for your help.

vitoox said:
Here is my story:
My SPV M5000 was left turned off for a looong time with battery attached. As I remember there was an original Orange ROM. Recently I decided to reincarnate my Uni, but without success - old battery wont charge... When inserted new one, the result was the same - no charging light, not booting. Then tried hard reset and for a few times I saw text on the screen but pressing '0' turned off screen immediately each time. And suddenly i received nice white blank screen. In bootloader mode it was black nice as well - no Ver., no USB. After a sailing all over the Unis WIKI, i made mtty tricks with task 32/ task 28 /task 28 55aa and flashed an original ROM again. Now It charges, I can HardReset and put in Bootloader mode, I hear a sound , Keyboard is Active, but the screen remains BLANK WHITE after H.R. Hope, there is a trick that i didn't know how to .... Thanks for your help.
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Hi!
Just try a cooked version (by Tomal or any other chef). This will turn your device alive. As far as the original version .... the problem of white screen do happens ... why? I don't know but the cooked versions can be installed and work fine.
May be a CHEF throw some light on it, the same happened to my Orange SPV 5000 and so far I am not able to install the original Orange WM5 on my device.
Regards,
Haque

Help! My Uni is dead!!!

Hi guys!
I flashed back Tomal's 8.5 and I was installing my applications. Everything was working good.
But, after a soft-reset required by an application, the screen remained black. No turn on, nothing at all.
If I plug in usb the charging led won't turn on.
If I remove the battery and put the usb cable in, the led turns red.
I can't enter in bootloader mode.
The only thing that seems to go is the hard reset: I can get the white screen with the question "x to exit..." but nothing more!
What can I do?
Thanks...

Hey.
You have to do DOC FORMAT.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1097645&postcount=4

I tried it, but I cannot enter in bootloader mode, I can only enter in hardreset dialog and my Uni isn't recognized by XP...

Hi!
My Xda Exec is dead I flash Tomal ROM and the next moment my phone is black srceen. I tried it to hard reset but nothing resoult. The PDA enter the boot loader mode but my PC is not connected the PDA. The pda screen "USB V1.01".
Help me
(Sorry I can from hungary...)

If you can enter in bootloader mode there's a chance to format it. Read the wiki.
My problem is that I can't even enter in bootloader!

Auzman said:
If you can enter in bootloader mode there's a chance to format it. Read the wiki.
My problem is that I can't even enter in bootloader!
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Yes i think. But "USB port can not open.".

I suppose you tried also this method...
If so, and nothing happened, I'm sorry, but I have no other ideas for you...

Problem solved!
I left my Uni without battery for few hours (don't know how it helped), I tried again with a fully charged battery and I've been able to get into bootloader.
I made a DOC format and reinstalled Master Tomal's rom.
Everything working well now...
Thanks!

vox stacked at bootloader

Folks, really need help.
allready googled.. but i really behind from WinPhone update/recover process.
My vox suddenly stacked at bootloader (see attach)
How to exit from them?
Does my info still in phone, can i recover it?
If not how i can recover ROM ?
Can i just put some WM6.5 to SD card and recover it to phone?
(which wm6.5 rom is better? allso interest in Russian input support)

You still have access to the boot loader - as you see the confirmation of the initial SW stack components on the screen. Your device is not "bricked" yet
First step is to get back the OS which you need to get the USPL loaded temporarily. So get the stock ROM: just call the normal installation process while the device is connected to the PC.
Now follow the instructions of the cooked ROMs - I will not repeat them here.

So, i can`t get my data back, anyway ?

Well, if the device does not boot the OS, then also the FAT file system is not available where the files reside that hold the data. I have never seen that a new flashing of the OS would leave the other data intact or even accessible (if you knew methods to get them back from there). The initial boot of the OS after flashing will newly create all databases from scratch and thus kill all old items anyway - no hope here.
So quite frankly - yes all your data (on the device) are gone and the only hope is that you will at least get back the OS flashed and the device usable again.

thnx for the answers.
one question only - can i update ROM my vox from SD card only ?
(i have a problem with mtty connection (windows7) )

Not easily - look up the forum and wiki for the "goldcard method". It is much easier to connect to another PC and flash from there.

Once you did USPL you can flash easily from SD-Card (check the Wiki)!

He would need to permanently replace the stock-bootloader with the USPL first and for this he needs again a PC connection, or? I would leave the bootloaders onboard intact - as if anything goes wrong in replacing the bootloader your device is bricked for sure!

holly sh*** !
Today my phone start work normally without any reason !
And i undestood that the problem with some connections inside the phone.
I backedup all data that i need, then dismount everything and then mounted it back. During i played with that it backs again to bootloader on start few times.. now it works, but i still not found what the problem is... seems like something broken in motherboard or somethin like that

Hi,
i have the same problem.
the device doesnt start.
I have access to mtty in bootloader mode.
I can update the device, but after update iam again in bootloader mode.
No chance to leave.
Anybody an idea?

If your device does not boot at all (Green LED - then nothing):
- check your SIM Door, open and close completely to reset the switch inside the device.
Fixes if you are stuck in the bootloader (3 color screen):
1.) try to get the OS re-initialized (Cold Boot with keyboard):
- press both softkeys and keep them pressed until the last step - never release them
- press the power key to switch on the device
- wait for a prompt on the screen
- release the softkeys
- push the "Send Button" (green key)
- device should reboot and OS is initialized
If this does not work, next step:
2.) load a complete ROM of the operator - they usually contain all parts of the ROM (splashscreen, IPL, SPL, Radio and OS) and they match the security settings of the built-in SPL. This should bring back your device to operation state.
If this does not work you have a broken device or defective USB connection (PC port, cable or USB on the device).
If that worked, then you can start flashing custom ROMs using the USPL as the cooks describe their procedure.

ok,
i have two problems..
first the format command is not known in Bootloader mode
and the second.. i cant flash an other image than theImages from the provider.

Instructions below are not valid for VOX (they are for Tornado), please ignore
You have to enter when MTTY is connected:
1.) press enter -> you see the prompt
2.) enter "info 2" with out the "" and press enter
You get a list of information
3.) "format BINFS XY00000" where XY00000 is the calculated size of your ROM
3.) will not work if you miss 2.)
About loading cooked ROMs, please look up the relevant threads, they describe what to do in detail.

thanks
I came home and was reading your thread.
As i connected the phone and startet it... everything works fine without any impact

zerocool80 said:
thanks
I came home and was reading your thread.
As i connected the phone and startet it... everything works fine without any impact
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In some cases - just remove battery, after plugging it on - windows should boot.
ruustart - should end any ruu comands and boot system - just connect device and inside mtty and after issuing password BsaD5SeoA type ruustart - will reset device.
m32

tobbie hav U seen "Key 1 is pressed ==> Clear HIVE !!!" in mtty ?
or "Soft1 and Soft2 are not pressed long enough" ?
m32

m32 said:
tobbie hav U seen "Key 1 is pressed ==> Clear HIVE !!!" in mtty ?
or "Soft1 and Soft2 are not pressed long enough" ?
m32
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Don't remember, but I play more with Tornado currently. Vox is still on Stock ROM and bootloader is secured there (unless you flashed USPL). Google for the strings above in the XDA scope. HTC devices often share similar bootloaders.

tobbbie said:
You have to enter when MTTY is connected:
1.) press enter -> you see the prompt
2.) enter "info 2" with out the "" and press enter
You get a list of information
3.) "format BINFS XY00000" where XY00000 is the calculated size of your ROM
3.) will not work if you miss 2.)
About loading cooked ROMs, please look up the relevant threads, they describe what to do in detail.
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hi ,
i also have same problem
but my mtty says invalid command

The SPL of the VOX is not allowing you to do this, possibly as there is no method to apply a Super-CID to this device afaik. Another method to bypass this however exists using the USPL, but I am not sure if this "format BINFS <size>" works on the USPL as well. It works ok on the stock SPL for the Tornado.

but i cannot use uspl
it says invalid vendor in while using RUU
so i must flash uspl

stuck during boot, do not know what to do

hi all...
...I hope that you can help. Some years ago, I have flashed my polaris from o2. i then got myself an iphone and some new computers (using vista now instead of xp), so that I do not have any of the old files that I used back then to flash the phone. my father was using the xda for quite a while now. however, suddenly the device is not working any more: if you turn it on, the boot screen will appear, but then it is stuck and nothing is happening (even no rom info in the lower right corner). also a hard reset doesn't help to overcome this problem.
what I am trying now is to flash it, because I guess (and hope) that this might help. But, to be honest, I completely forgot how this works. I downloaded an original rom from this website today, but I cannot flash it to the device (stuck at 0%, getting an communication problem error). If I turn on the phone with camera button pressed down, the tricolor-screen appears reading POLA200, SPL-3.13.0000, CPLD-2. what am I doing wrong? your help is greatly appreciated.

Try flashing the rom from the tricolour-screen just make sure at the bottom of the tricolour-screen it say's usb not serial.
You will only be able to flash official roms as you don't have a stock spl not hard-spl.

thanks. I tried this one from this forum: RUU_Polaris_o2_GER_1.24.207.2_withSplash_noRadio_schaggo_[fixed]
but it did not work.
however, I now downloaded the rom from the original o2-site and it is at the moment in the process of flashing it - let's cross fingers.
damn, it did not work. I mean, the flashing succeeded, but the problem still persists: if I start the device, the start-screen appears, but that's it - nothing happens afterwards, and after some seconds, the device turns itself off again.
what could that be?

Could be the battery if the device turns itself off,try booting with the charger or usb still in.Or flash hard spl and try a different rom.

hi all friends if you are stuck on 0% and u cant install spl then do this ,,,
You can try this:
1. Stop ActiveSync
2. Open Task Manager (press Ctrl + Alt + Delete) on your PC and
stop these two processes rapimgr.exe and wcescomm.exe
3. Plug in your device via USB. Your computer should be asking install a driver. Install and continue.
4. Now Run mtty and choose USB in 'PORT'
4. type "set 16 0" without the quotes to tell bootloader to boot the OS after reset.
5. type "task 8" to get your device formatted.
6. Now unplug your device and manually reset it.
i hope you will be happy after .. thanks